Previously on
The real world...
Yeah, I think you're
Very bitter.
You know, I was like, "well,
I'm not bitter," but when I
Think about it now,
You know, I think I have a right
To be very angry.
First of all, I'm not going out
Of my way any more than I
Already do.
I'm saying at least try to
Understand where I'm coming
From, know what I'm saying?
How can you expect me to?
Julie, you always like to
Give the impression that we
Fight with you constantly,
And I've always thought we got
Along really well.
Poor julie was--julie's
A mess.
She was so grumpy.
I've never seen her that grumpy.
This is the true story...
True story.
Of seven strangers...
[Laughter]
Picked to live in a loft...
And have their lives taped...
To find out what happens...
What?
When people stop
Being polite...
Could you get the phone?
And start getting real.
The real world.
[Dog barks]
[Jazz music]
♪
I think it's really obvious
After living with kevin that he
Was capable of some physical
Violence, you know, and that
Women would not be a factor,
You know, that he would not take
That into consideration.
I mean I can--i do.
He was really
Throwing things?
He took one of them candlesticks
And threw it at you?
No, one of those super
Heavy ones.
One of those big ones,
Because when I came in here,
I saw it.
What?
I saw something all out
Of place.
I was like, "what is that?"
He didn't throw it at me.
He just like--
Like what?
If you would have charged him,
He would have hit you with
It or something?
Are you kidding me?
Regardless, whether or not, this
Was in his hand ready to
Hit you?
Like that he even thought
About that?
Yes! Yes.
I knew--i was, like, I can
Handle, you know, a black eye
For this, you know.
I understand that you're gonna
Hit me, but--
[Sighs]
I love this show, but I'm not
Going to a [...] Funeral.
Julie was really, really
Upset and hysterical, and for
Someone to be like that,
Something serious must
Have happened.
I just picked up the phone
And said, "who's on the phone,"
And he said, "kevin."
I said, "well, who are you
Talking to?"
He said, "none of
Your business."
I said, "well, hurry,"
And hung up.
I mean, and it just escalated
Because he was, "well, [...]
You, julie," and I was like,
"Well, no, then [...]
You, kevin."
[Mumbling]
He was like, "mind your
Manners," or something, and I
Said, "why, you don't ever mind
Your manners to anybody in
This whole place."
And it just--
And then what did he say?
It just went off from there.
You know, "you're gonna have to
Suck my [...]," And all this--
He said that to you?
And so what did you say?
You know, "[...] You, kevin.
I haven't done [...]."
You know you're the one with--
You know, who's done
Everything," and he was like, "I
Mean, if you ever do
That again"--
I was like, "what, you're gonna
Hit me?
What? Just what?"
He was like, "I'm gonna break
Every one of your [...] Fingers,
And I'm gonna do this, that, and
The other," and he starts
Slamming [...].
I was like, "just get out.
Just get out," and he was like,
"No, you better just get out."
And so, like, he left, and he
Came back and--
He left?
He went out the door?
He went out the door, and he
Like fixed the lock on the door
And just start beating the door.
[Sighs]
He's got a problem.
It ain't ours.
It's gonna be.
It was mine for a while.
It's gonna be my problem,
I'll tell you that, when I see
Him tonight.
That's [...] Up.
But then it's...
Julie and kevin were the only
Ones in the apartment.
They're the only ones that
Really know what happened, and
There's two stories.
This is very nice.
Thanks.
I like this.
I like this.
Oh, good. You're smiling.
He's smiling, kevin.
Finally, you know.
[Laughs]
Finally, finally.
You know, sam and everybody
In the read say I should teach
You humility.
Really?
Yeah.
Are you serious?
Sam said to teach
Him humility?
Yes.
That's hysterical.
Yeah, right?
That's really hysterical.
I was thinking about it when I
Was sitting in the meeting with
My editor and stuff, but it was
Like, you know--it was to me,
Was like another argument that,
You know, it just happened
That--it was just the first
Argument I had with julie.
I was working at f.p.g., And
I get this report that kevin had
Spit and threw things into
Julie's face.
And I took julie's side of the
Story, and I accused kevin
Of it.
It's no disrespect.
There might be misunderstanding,
But there is no--you've got in
Your head that everyone is
Disrespecting you.
No, I'm saying--no, I'm not.
You've been here from day one
Saying, "you've disrespected me.
You disrespected me."
No, I'm not. No, I'm not!
You pinned me down on
That argument.
Pinned you down?
Only because you pin
Yourself down.
No!
You want to yell at me the
Whole time?
Are you gonna yell at me the
Whole time?
[Indistinct arguing]
Sicilian blood in me is like
Rushing up to my head, and I can
Fell myself going to explode
Like vesuvius.
[Imitates expl*si*n]
I'm like--
"Ahh."
Don't touch me.
How would you feel if I got
On the phone when your on the
Phone with bruce--
Wait a minute. Let me finish.
Will you listen, please?
Do you know how to listen?
Well--
Do you know how to listen?
You need to calm down.
First of all, you were not
Here, norman.
You were not here.
That's the first thing.
Secondly, she picked up the
Phone with an attitude, norman.
You understand what I'm saying?
I'm on the phone with somebody
From a record company 'cause I'm
Desperate to find a job.
My teaching gig ends this month.
I have no more checks coming.
I have nothing coming.
I have to find a job for
The summer.
The guy's like, "what the [...]
Is this?
You're not serious about a job."
Click!
Do you understand what I'm
Saying, norman?
Click!
I felt like norman took her side
Immediately, you know, and,
Like, there was no question in
His mind that I was this person
Who did all these things that
Julie said I did.
You don't even know.
You weren't here.
Do you understand what
I'm saying?
One person's word against
Another, yet you side with one
Other person--someone else's
Side, the other person's side.
Why?
Because if I were to be
Brought into a court and they
Were to ask me specific
Questions like, "well, did this
Happen with kevin?
This happen with kevin?
This happen with kevin?"
That's all I know of kevin,
And I would have to say "yes."
I would have to say "yes."
But stop.
You just said, "that's all you
Know of kevin."
That's all I know of kevin.
That's all you know, a
Pattern of aggressive behavior.
That's all you know about me
Out of these / months?
I mean, I'm not gonna sit
Here and turn out just, "yeah, I
Had this conversation with
Kevin, and I figured it all
Out, julie."
I mean, i--you know--i have to
Communicate with her.
I'm as angry right now when I
Speak with her.
So where's julie?
I don't know where she is.
[Frantic piano music]
♪
Oh, oh, oh, no.
Where's julie?
Julie?
Julie.
I really need to know
What happened.
What?
I really need to know exactly
What happened.
What do you want to know?
Tell him the whole story.
I just accused him of having
You be challenged with this
Object and being spit at in the
Face, and I need to know.
He was throwing candlesticks.
I was throwing candlesticks.
You didn't throw this?
No, julie.
You're bugging.
That you threw this, and this
Went into the air.
You're bugging.
How did this get on
The ground?
I have no idea.
How did this get on the
Ground, kevin?
When I went out of the
Apartment, it may have fell
Down, julie.
Did he spit at you?
Yes.
You're lying.
How did it start, julie?
What did you do, julie?
I picked up the phone, and I
Said, "who's on the phone?"
That's not what you
Said, julie.
What did I say?
"The call ain't important."
Something like that, and
You cursed.
No, you told me she said,
"[...] You," and twice, once up
There and once here.
You didn't?
Yes, I just--[...] You, I
Didn't say, "[...] You" on the
Phone, and you didn't say, "suck
My [...]" To me?
Julie, after I tried to
Explain to you that I was on the
Phone with someone who was
Trying to get me a job for the
Summer, you said--
Kevin--
What did you say, julie?
You--you were like, "I don't--it
Doesn't make a difference."
Know what I'm saying?
And you didn't even apologize.
No, I didn't.
You didn't think anything was
Wrong with that?
Kevin--
You don't think anything was
Wrong with that?
No, I don't.
I don't care what you said
To anyone.
As much as you have done
To everybody in this place?
No, kevin, I'm not gonna say,
"I'm sorry, kevin."
Two different
Perceptions, girlfriend.
You know, we got, what, a
Week and a half more, and if
This is how you want to go out,
That's fine.
No, all I'm saying--no, no,
No, all I'm saying--
All I'm saying is don't get
The [...] Near me--
All I'm saying and don't--
The way that I got the
Picture and the way that I saw
Things happen from when you
First told me about, you know,
Like, what happened, I
Definitely believe you.
Well, I mean, I don't--
You know, I don't want to be
Like, "oh, you know, this is my
Story, and I'm telling the
Truth, you know.
Come, you know--"
Right.
You know, you can believe
Whatever you want, or you can
Just stay totally out of it.
I don't care.
All I know is, you know, I don't
Ever want to be left alone with
Him again, ever.
I understand that.
And that's, you know,
Basically I think what it comes
Down to.
Like, this isn't the first
Time that we've seen him go at
Somebody, you know?
[Dramatic music]
♪
[Phone ringing]
It's just been a crazy day.
Are you okay?
Yeah, I'm fine.
You sure?
Yeah.
I miss you every day,
Not just easter.
Oh, dad, I love you.
Okay, well, then your money
Holding out all right?
I'm fine.
What, I mean, you hold this--
It's holding out, right?
Yeah.
You get a check today?
No.
Well, you should get
It tomorrow.
Okay, thanks.
Bye.
If you don't get that camera off
Me, I'm just gonna die.
Do not think that julie
Is making this story up.
I mean, it's just so--
I mean, I just can't see
Julie--i can't see that in
Julie, you know what I mean?
I mean, "kevin--i just wanted to
Knock him out," because you
Have--well, how could you just
Go and say something like that?
Like, he got into her face like
This and is like, "it's my word
Against yours."
I mean, when somebody says that
To somebody else, that means
That--to me, or the way that
I've grown up and people have
Said that--that they're trying
To get out of something that
They did.
You don't say that unless you're
Trying to pull yourself out of a
Hole, and I've tried to pull
Myself out of a million holes.
And those are the kinds of
Things that you say, and that's
Why I'm really for julie.
And that's why I can't
Believe kevin.
He's got no problems
Standing up straight because
Kevin powell uses words for
Wheels, direct, head-on,
Eyeball-to-eyeball.
With kevin powell, here
He comes.
[Cheers and applause]
This is called "mental
Terrorism," and I think all of
Us in here are going through
That [...].
"Call me a stupefied stoic,
However the world's bloody palms
Have yet to clutch my face
In pity.
What is to be locked away
In the imagination of kidnappers
And unwanted and unappreciated
Spoil of w*r.
Underdog.
Oh where, oh where can my
Underdog be?
Bart simpson and arsenio hall,
In that order, are the only
Two friends I have left, they
Will soon become bigger than all
The gods in ancient africa,
Forget that humankind exists
Day-to-day.
Can I cry in living color?
From buckwheat to the homeboy
Shopping network, will the
n*gro ever learn the concept of
Self-respect?
Rhythmic american poetry, you
Hear it, and you think of me
Trapped in a concrete box,
Begging to be released so that I
Can told , times, 'well, you
Have a nice resume, but--'
How many 'buts' can one man
Have anyway?
And some of you have the nerve
To condemn the homeless.
All I want is the opportunity to
Have an opportunity.
Where does one run to when stuck
In the promised land?
Don't touch that flag!
It's live campaign ammunition.
N.e.a. Stands for nazism
Entering america via
Congressional doors.
Too bad and too live for the
Average citizen who hasn't read
Machiavelli or tricky dicky
Nixon's lips.
Censoring is moral mccarthyism,
The 's version of the
l*nch m*b.
Big brother's watching you
Watching me.
I can't stop writing in spite of
My fears.
Who cares?
It's getting--it's getting--it's
Getting kind of hectic, but I've
Got the power to break out of
This cage at any moment."
[Cheers and applause]
And I know how it feels, and
All you really need is for
Someone to just get your mind
Off of everything that happened
And just to laugh and giggle
And--you know, like, I felt, you
Know, that julie needed that.
You really look funny.
You're cracking me up.
New identity.
♪ I got them alabama blues
♪ For julie and her shoes
♪ Mama needs a brand-new pair
♪ Of shoes-oo-oo
[Cat calling]
New identity.
♪ I was in the shower
♪ And I couldn't wash my back ♪
Eric took care of me that
Whole day really.
You know, he wasn't gonna let me
Be sad.
He was gonna go to any extreme
To cheer me up even if it was
Playing andre's guitar with a
Hat on or acting like a chicken.
[Imitating chicken clucking]
You're the guy from the
See and say.
[Imitating chicken clucking]
That is a chicken.
You know how they kick dirt?
[Imitates chicken clucking]
[Bouncy hip-hop music]
♪
Yesterday I went to jersey
City with kaseemi.
That's pretty much where I grew
Up at, and I just wanted her to,
You know, check out where I
Came from.
I guess I kind of want to check
Out where I came from too.
Yo, old school.
Just like old times.
Oh, man, what are you doing
Next saturday?
Nothing, just hanging loose.
Let me give you this address.
I just want you to come to this
Birthday party I'm having, man.
My friend eric, we grew
Up together.
We were like best buddies.
You know, he's a survivor.
That's, like, the thing, just
Surviving, you know?
[Bouncy hip-hop music]
♪
So you know why we moved out
Of here?
'Cause, like, that's the
Building right there, where
Those people are standing at.
We had this pimp living in
Our building.
Used to be all kinds of [...]
Going on.
This was my block for a while.
Give me your hand.
What's wrong?
[Bouncy hip-hop music]
♪
It helps to stop the bus, babe.
Oh, my.
♪
Hey, how are you doing?
What's going on, kevin?
"When did we stop counting black
Folks as / of a human being?"
Seems like you're taking this
Out on us.
Us who?
The people who you live with.
No.
No?
I live, like, elsewhere
Besides here.
Oh, yeah, I know, but this
Is up here, though.
Yeah, and?
I think people either are part
Of the problem, part of
Solution, you know?
All my [...] Aside that we've
Been talking about all these
/ Months, you know, to me,
It all came out yesterday.
You know what I'm saying?
This country is r*cist as hell.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the reality, and the way
I was accused of, you know, one,
Spitting in someone's face, and
Then two, picking up something
That I don't even know what it
Is, you know, and threatening to
Hit somebody with it, you know?
I don't think that had to do
Anything with you being
Black, though.
[Laughs]
Andre--
Do you think that had to do--
Everything.
That's--that is the
Cause of--
A lot of it, yes, because,
You know--listen, andre, from my
Perspective, whenever a black
Person, including myself, has an
Opinion, is assertive about it
Or is aggressive about it, we
Become threatening to
White people.
There is racism, but you
Can't go about it by, you know,
By just--like--these signs here.
I mean, what--because it's
Just--you're telling the wrong
People, man.
Who here is r*cist?
[Laughs]
What is racism to you?
It involves control, man.
Okay, now, what--who here is
Trying to control you?
Everybody in this apartment,
You know, who is white, has the
Possibility of becoming r*cist
If they fall into the traps of
This society.
Well, are you saying white
People are the only people
That--who can be r*cist?
No, to me, racism and
Prejudice are two
Different things.
Prejudice mean to prejudge, and
A lot of black people
Are prejudiced.
I have my own prejudices.
I'm not even gonna lie; I came
Into this situation
With prejudices.
Some of them have been proven
Out, some of them haven't been.
You know, some of them have been
Discounted, you know what
I mean?
You know, like, I was like,
"Julie, she's from alabama."
You know, typical [...].
She's proven, you know, that
She's the opposite of a lot of
Things that were in my head.
I felt like I had really
Bad timing when I walked in.
You know, kevin was there, and
There was, of course,
Incredible tension.
You know, everybody's just kind
Of looking, and so I wasn't
Gonna go out of my way to be
Rude to kevin or ignore him.
So I just sat down next to him,
And he writes his little notes,
You know, on his hand, "you want
To talk?"
I was like, "well, sure, you
Know, I can talk to you until
The cows come home.
That's not a problem.
Let's talk," but of course,
Kevin can't talk in the loft.
He has to go out to the street
For some reason.
He just feels like that's a lot
Better, so okay, we'll go down
There then, where we can draw
A crowd.
That'll be great.
People, we come from
Different backgrounds.
It's like we react to things
Differently, you know?
It's like, I mean, granted you
Didn't know where the call was
Coming from.
My anger was probably
Misdirected, but it's like I
Just felt--
But kevin, you have a lot of
Misdirected anger, and I don't
Feel like--i mean, there's no
Way that I can take that
Personal, and I understand that.
But how, I mean--how am i--
I have a lot of misdirected
Anger; I also have a lot of
Anger that's, you know,
Justifiable too.
This is my point.
This is what I was saying
To andre.
You come from a particular
Background; I come from a
Particular background.
Wait a minute. Will you listen?
Why do you got to get--why do
You get so close?
Will you listen?
Black people are emotional.
That's my explanation.
White people are just--
Oh, my god.
Listen, will you--
It's not a black-white thing.
Why do you have to get so close?
Will you just listen?
Will you listen?
I'm listening, kevin.
Yesterday was a
Building point.
You happen to be--
Why do you get so--i don't
Understand that.
That's my culture.
That has nothing to do with
Your culture.
Yes, it does.
It does not!
That's part of the problem.
Get off the black-white
Thing; I'm sick of it.
Look at los angeles!
Look at los angeles, how are--
I'm sick of it!
What do all of those notes
On the bulletin board mean?
What are you gonna do
About it if you're sick of--
What are you gonna do?
Hit me?
No, and there you go.
You said that yesterday.
Why do you assume because I'm a
Black man, I'm gonna hit you?
That's what you assume?
Yes, you do.
God, no!
Why did you say it then?
Why did you say it then?
Because you said, "suck my
[...], I'm gonna break every one
Of your [...] Fingers."
Bull[...].
You didn't say that?
You hear what you want
To hear.
Kevin!
You hear what you want
To hear, and how are you gonna
Say, "get off the black-white
Thing," when that's the reality?
Racism is everywhere.
That's my point.
That's my point.
What happened in alabama?
Because of people like
You, kevin.
People like me?
Because of people like you,
Not people like me.
Black people cannot
Be r*cist.
Black people cannot be r*cist.
We don't have the power to
Control what--
Get out of my [...] Face!
I'm so sick of this.
'Cause you don't understand.
How can you say, "why am
I upset?"
Because you can spit in
My face and lie and throw [...]
And then deny it.
No one has ever approached
You like--that's the problem.
Oh, nobody's ever approached
Me like this?
Bull[...].
How do you know?
I know; I can tell the way
You reacted.
Oh, kevin, you don't know!
You're a reactionary, your
Reactions--you don't know.
You call yourself a teacher?
You're years old, white
Girl from alabama.
You call yourself a teacher?
You're a -year-old white
Girl from alabama who just
Doesn't understand.
It's not a black-white issue.
Yes, it is.
How, how is it a
Black-white issue?
Let's go inside.
Why?
I thought we were fine out here.
Well, I mean, I can't speak
For julie, but for myself, I
Mean, it got to a point inside
Where I said, "this doesn't make
Any sense to constantly be
Yelling at each other."
I mean, we've been here
/ Months, and we've been
Like the best of friends, you
Know, and we can, you know,
Agree to disagree on the nature
Of the argument, what happened
During the course of the
Argument and everything.
You know, and at least try to
Live and respect each other for
The duration of our stay in
The loft.
I'm not sorry for it.
I don't feel like I did anything
On the phone, and I don't--i
Mean, and if I did, I don't feel
Like I deserved what I got.
I don't really feel like you
Have a lot of respect for me a
Lot of times or for a lot
Of people.
You know, I'm not talking about
Anybody in particular.
I'm just talking about people.
Well, I'm sorry it had to
Happen like that.
I'm really sorry it happened
Like that too.
So you feel better?
That's all you had to do was
Kind of get in my face and
Scream a little and--
Oh, who was pushing who?
[Goofy grunting noises]
Who was close enough to
Be pushed?
Julie didn't back down
At all.
She believed in what she was
Saying strongly, and she wasn't
Going to back down for that.
And what else can I do but
Respect that, you know?
I really like kevin, and,
I mean, I couldn't--could
Never deny that.
I respect him a lot.
I think he's really intelligent
And has a lot of important
Things to say.
That doesn't mean that I ever
Want to be alone with kevin
Again in my life.
I will never be comfortable.
I mean, I don't really
Understand how I can be expected
To be.
[Peaceful flute music]
♪
Hey.
Yeah?
What's up?
Nothing.
Saturday night, dude.
Yeah.
You coming?
What's the word?
Big party.
[Electronic dance music]
♪
I asked her for a paper cup,
And she grabbed my leather coat
And says, "that's $ for the
Paper cup."
And those two women beat me up.
Do you see my mouth?
The first thing I hear is,
You know, "julie, you know, you
Need to talk to heather.
She's gonna be arrested.
She hit some girl."
She felt she was assaulted
When she tried to take a cup.
Why did you try to take a cup?
All you have to do is ask
For one, period.
I'm going to a phone booth,
And I'm calling the police.
I've been assaulted, and I'm
Filing a complaint.
[Dance music]
♪
The woman was rude to her,
And heather let her know you
Don't--you don't act rude
Towards heather "b."
I don't even have to talk
To her.
You want to speak to me?
Next on the real world...
Where are they taking--where
Are they going with her?
Where are they going?
Stop them and find out where
They're going.
[Siren bleeping]
Julie's on the toilet; eric's
In the shower in the
Same bathroom.
See, they're probably doing
Their first sex thing.
Yo, seriously, man, we're
Just trying to have a good,
Little party here.
No need to be [...] It up
For everybody.
Just chill out, and we'll have a
Good time.
You know what I'm saying?
Seriously, you know, you don't
Need to be smoking no reefer,
Because that's gonna shut the
Party down.
The cops are here.
Everybody saw them.
Just chill out. Seriously.
The music will play.
Everybody will dance and have a
Good time.
Just don't [...] Around.
You know?
[Bouncy hip-hop music]
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What up? What up?
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01x11 - Julie Thinks Kevin is Psycho!
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Seven to eight young adults are picked to temporarily live in a new city together in one residence while being filmed non-stop.
Seven to eight young adults are picked to temporarily live in a new city together in one residence while being filmed non-stop.