03x10 - Music Partnership Fiasco Part 2

[bunniefuu]

She posted nude pictures of you
on the internet.

Nude pictures to my mom.

It's been a whole year of this,
of being harassed.

-Your Honor...
-Don't speak.

A woman scorned
will do nothing short of getting even.

[announcer]
This is Judge Judy Justice.

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[announcer]
Previously on Judge Judy Justice.

According to both of you,
that you decide to do as a side hustle

is breed little Frenchie Bulldogs.

You do not take $3,500 out, if you can't
pay your own rent, to buy a dog.

He had sent me a derogatory text
saying thanks for paying the rent.

And he had had me distraught
and I got out of there.

You had a disagreement about the rent
in September of 2022.

It was more than the rent, ma'am.

Whatever you had a disagreement about,
you say he assaulted you.

I've never been charged
with as*ault on her or nothing.

[Judge Judy]
Just a second.

[announcer]
And now the conclusion.

Amina Thornton claims
her former client, Donnie Alford,

stole her property
and owes her dog registration papers.

Donnie says Amina
defamed him on social media.

Okay. You say he assaulted you.

Tell me where you were
when this took place.

The as*ault took place in the apartment.

So you were there in the apartment?

[Amina]
Yes, ma'am.

Tell me the circumstances.

The studio equipment,
everything was still there.

He was getting evicted
and I wanted the belongings back.

I wanted the things to come back to me

because they belonged to me,
and that was the agreement.

I have text messages.

"You stopped paying everything.
I have nothing.

You hold the upper hand.

When you leave,
you won't have a problem bouncing back.

You have your husband.
I have nothing."

-[Judge Judy] Can I see some...
-Some of the texts?

[Judge Judy]
Just one or two of the texts.

Yes, ma'am.

Your Honor, can I say something?

Absolutely.

[Donnie] I'm not no homeless bum.
I make money.

I'm one of the top entertainers
in Atlanta,

so therefore I do make money.

I have my own money.

When I met her,
I was passionate about music.

I took her on and...

[Judge Judy]
Took her on for what?

Because I liked it, her aggression,
when it came to getting stuff done.

So I asked her to manage me.

I had a job at the time.

I had a place to lay my head at the time.

It was her decision
for me to stop working,

and I have a text message
where she said, "The agreement was

for me to pay your rent,
take care of necessities,

and don't exceed over anything over,
I think, like $8,000 a month."

So I was working, doing shows,
doing that,

and the money that she would
put in my account and I was getting,

that was for me, like, that's actually
like me working for being an artist.

I thought you were working.

The agreement was for me to stop working
so I could focus strictly on music.

[Judge Judy] Well, that's good. You told
me you were one of the top artists.

-Yes.
-So what'd you need her money for?

Top entertainer. Entertainer.

So I stopped dancing and I focused
nothing on music recording

as an artist singing.

So therefore...

So you stopped doing what
you made money in. That's what you said.

Yes.

[Judge Judy]
You stopped to focus on just singing.

Yes, because I had
the financial backing to do it.

Mr. Alford,
why do you think she was doing that, sir?

[Donnie]
She did it because it was lucrative.

At first it was business,
like, a business.

Then I seen that she started
taking interest in me.

She never stayed at the apartment,
none of that.

So, yes, I overlooked the interest part,
but we still had a plan.

"Let's get this music done.

I'll get my money on the back end
from the music."

And that's how it was.

That's exactly how it was
for the long run.

Then she started getting emotional.

Whenever I go out,
then the personal started coming in.

I started backing up a little bit.

Where did you get all this money
to buy the dogs?

It was from money I already had
from dancing, my side money,

and then money that she was
giving me from working.

I'm an artist.

That's if I asked somebody
to do something, I'm an artist, right?

I got it. I actually have
the whole picture, Mr. Alford.

[Donnie] Okay.

I have her whole picture, which is,
you know, sad, a little bit desperate.

And I have your picture.
I have the whole picture.

She's getting the dogs back.

Can I see the email, please,
that you referenced, Ms. Thornton?

Yes.

Other than that, I'm ready
to move on to his counterclaim.

You're getting the registration papers
for your two dogs.

Do you have a police report?

Yeah. I have my restraining order.

I have an active restraining order.

[Judge Judy] Was there a hearing
on the restraining order?

Yes, it's active.

[Judge Judy]
Answer this question.

Stop looking because you can't
concentrate on my question.

With regard to the as*ault allegation
against the defendant

which took place in December of 2022...

Yes.

-[Judge Judy] ...according to you...
-Yes.

[Judge Judy] ...if there is
an active restraining order,

there had to have been either
a consent by him for the restraining order

-or a trial.
-[Amina] A trial.

[Judge Judy]
There was a trial.

Yes.

[Judge Judy]
Did you testify at the trial?

I did.

Just a sec.
You're looking at papers again.

[Amina]
Yes, ma'am.

Did he testify at the trial?

[Amina] He did.

Did the court, after the hearing,
Mr. Alford, issue a restraining order?

Yes, they granted both.
They told both of us to leave...

[Judge Judy]
No, no, no, no, no.

So what you're saying is,
you filed for a restraining order, too?

-Yes.
-No.

-You did?
-Yes.

-No.
-[Judge Judy] Okay.

-And then when she...
-[Judge Judy] Shh!

Mr. Alford, pay attention.

This was my bailiwick.
This is my home territory.

She files for a protective order.

She's going to show me her application
for a protective order.

She's also going to show me
the final order of protection.

Yes.

[Judge Judy] I want you to start looking
for your application

for your protective order
and your final order of protection.

-Can I have my phone, please?
-Here you go.

Via phone?
I don't wanna see it in a phone.

I wanna see the order.

[sighs] Oh, my God.

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You're wasting my time.

After the trial, the judge granted her
a six-month protective order.

Yes, both of us.

Well, yes, her. Yes.

-Right.
-Right.

Well, then I don't
have to get into that.

The judge already found
that you assaulted her.

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[announcer] Amina Thornton has accused
her former client, Donnie Alford,

of refusing to return registration papers
for her French Bulldogs.

Donnie is countersuing
for the value of the dogs

and online defamation.

This is six-month protective order,
is what it says.

What I don't have
is a signed order by the judge.

Okay, I'll give that to you.
Just one second, Your Honor.

[Judge Judy] May I please have,
Mr. Alford, your application

for a protective order,
for your application

where it says "Donny Alford
against Amina Thornton"

and your final protective order?

No. So I didn't get a final protect order.

-[Judge Judy] Well, she did.
-Yeah.

-[Judge Judy] Okay.
-And the judge told us both...

[Judge Judy] I don't care. Don't tell me
what the judge told you, sir.

You're wasting my time.

After the trial, the judge granted her
a six-month protective order.

Yes, both of us.

Well, yes, her. Yes.

-Right.
-[Donnie] Right.

Well, then I don't
have to get into that.

The judge already found
that you assaulted her,

found the allegations or some
of the allegations that were true.

Some.

I don't care. Some or all.
She's suing you for an as*ault.

Okay.

[Judge Judy] The court found that
there was sufficient as*ault,

menacing, threatening, or harassing

to issue her a final order
of protection for six months.

You have no police report, correct?

No, I did not file a police report.

[Judge Judy] Okay, and the medical records
on which this as*ault was based...

a visit to the doctor.
Anything else?

It's just the emergency room
and the follow-up.

[Judge Judy]
I'd like to see it.

For what date is that?

[Amina] That's just the bill, Your Honor.
I couldn't get the...

I can go into My HealtheVet
'cause I had to go to the VA.

[Judge Judy]
This is a statement date.

-This was just this month.
-Yes, I know.

Yeah, you just got this bill
for this case.

Okay, throw this away.

Okay, now we're gonna get
to his counterclaim.

Put all your papers away.

On your claim,
the court's going to issue an order,

and the order is that the two dogs...

You'll give the names of the dogs
to the clerk and all the other materials

so that the AKC
will issue the registration papers

in your name for those two dogs.

He has a counterclaim
seeking the return of the two dogs,

which he's not getting,
three puppies,

which he's not getting
'cause the dogs aren't his,

and defamation of character.

Now, Mr. Alford,
you make a claim here that,

if true,
is very problematic for her.

You say that after this whole thing
sort of broke up,

the managerial relationship

as well as the,
albeit brief, social relationship,

she defamed you
by publishing someplace

the fact that you have A*DS,

carry multiple STDs,
and hit women.

[Donnie] Mm-hmm.

So the court that heard
the protective order

may or may not have found
that one of the actions that you did

was hit women,
so I'm gonna forget about that in this.

But I want you to show me proof
that she published facts

that you either have A*DS
or carry multiple STDs.

So here's this.

Now, just look at it carefully
and make sure what you're giving me

supports your statement that she alleged
either one of those two things.

Mm-hmm.
It's this one right here. It's the...

[Judge Judy]
That's...just a second.

Is that the only one that you have?

No, I have...I have a lot,
but that's the main one where...

[Judge Judy] Not "main one."
Not "main one."

I asked you for anything that you have
where she published

that you either had A*DS
or multiple STDs.

Okay.

Your Honor...

[Judge Judy]
Don't speak.

Okay.

That's the only one for the A*DS and STDs.

[Judge Judy]
May I see them, please?

[Donnie] Yeah.

I don't understand this one, Sarah.
You can sort of explain that to me.

This is what I have.

AKA. This is author Amina Thornton.

I see something that's ascribed to her
with her name on it.

This doesn't say that you have
either A*DS or STDs, sir.

This says that you are
a domestic violent ab*ser.

She says that you forced her to have sex.

"Thief, womanizer, trash can trash.
He is a deadbeat dad."

Do you have five kids?

He has eight with seven women.

[Judge Judy] Okay. Just a second.
Do you have five?

I have five.

-Okay.
-[Amina] Eight.

"Police are going to be
at this show to pick you up.

Jarvus Alford."
Well, this isn't it.

I also have an e-blast that she...

[Judge Judy]
This doesn't say you have A*DS.

What does that say?

This is somebody, I think,
separate from the plaintiff

that's messaging the defendant,
saying that this account

that they screen-shotted,
attributed to the plaintiff,

is replying under their...
this third-party person's tweet,

saying that he has A*DS,
a r*pist...

Okay, yeah, that's useless.

Okay.

I also have it where she did an e-blast,
was saying that I was dead,

I have herpes,
and she said that...

[Judge Judy]
May I see that?

[Donnie]
Yes. That's the whole e-blast letter.

[Judge Judy]
May I see it?

So far, these don't establish
your cause of action for defamation.

Would you show this
to the plaintiff, please?

[Donnie]
And my mom got that.

-She sent...
-[Judge Judy] Shh. Just a second.

Did you write that?

No, I did not.

[Judge Judy]
Well, who does it say wrote it?

It doesn't say I wrote it.

[Judge Judy] What phone number
does it say it comes from?

[Amina] Oh, this is my husband's number,
and I have the text message right here

where my husband has said,
"This is not my wife's phone.

This is my phone."

Ma'am, if you go on the affidavit
or the protection order

that you got stated from her,

under there,
we have to list our numbers as contacts.

You could verify that she has
that number on that contact list.

And me and my husband live together.

Maybe. Okay, can I have it, please?

That's a text message
that was sent to him in February.

Where is your husband?
[scoffing]

Go find him.

[Judge Judy]
Shh. Listen to me.

Whoever wrote this,
you or your husband, it's nasty.

[Amina] Yeah.

[Judge Judy] It's nasty. Right? It doesn't
say that the defendant has A*DS.

You can't accuse somebody of that
just to be spiteful.

You don't in this,
but it's just a nasty, nasty email.

And you say it was not authored by you.

It was not.

-Could've been authored...
-[Amina] He had sent my husband...

He had sent my husband text messages
saying that he has had sex with me,

made love with me,
all kind of stuff.

[Judge Judy] Well, you know what?
Are you and your husband still together?

I am, 24 years. Yes.

[Judge Judy]
Twenty-four years. All right.

-It was a mistake.
-[Amina] It was, a very big one.

-It was a big mistake.
-[Amina] A very big one.

-It was a very big mistake, Ms. Thornton.
-Yes. The biggest mistake in my life.

[Judge Judy]
Yeah, a very big mistake.

Who are you living with now, Mr. Alford?

I stay with my girlfriend.

-[Judge Judy] Is that your girlfriend?
-Yes.

[Judge Judy]
Okay. And what are you doing?

[Donnie]
I breed dogs.

[Judge Judy]
You breed dogs?

[Donnie]
Frenchies, yes.

How many dogs do you have?

We have three,
but we currently have two French Bulldogs

and about to get another one.

I just feel sorry for all these dogs.

It doesn't appear to me
that it's really such a good hobby.

I'm not the person
she's trying to make me out to,

and I hope that you
allow me to show you that.

Listen, Mr. Alford, I want you
to clearly understand me.

I'm not getting into
extrinsic materials, sir.

She says you have eight children.
You say you have five.

If you have five children
and what you're saying is

you spent thousands of dollars on dogs

in the same time period
where someone else is paying your rent...

She was only paying my rent.

...so that you can develop
your media career,

how much money are you
paying in child support, Mr. Alford?

I pay $25 for one child and I pay...

[Judge Judy]
Twenty-five dollars a what?

Twenty-five dollars a month for one child.

[Judge Judy]
A month. Just a second.

And then I pay $145 for the other child.

-And that's only because...
-[Judge Judy] A month?

-Yes.
-[Judge Judy] A month.

Well, I have to tell you, sir,
I have a four-pound Shih Tzu

and I couldn't feed her
for $25 a week.

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She has been locked up
because she has came to my home

and assaulted me and stuff like that
and destroyed property.

[Judge Judy]
On what date was she arrested?

I don't know the exact date.

Do you know what month
and date you were arrested?

April 12th of 2022.

Oh, my God, you people.

[theme music playing]

[announcer] Amina Thornton claims
her former client, Donnie Alford,

stole her property
and owes her dog registration papers.

Donny says Amina
defamed him on social media.

-Go.
-[Donnie] I'm an excellent father.

I take care of my business.
I do that.

If I was a bum,
she wouldn't have came to me

and even gave me money
to do what I had to do.

I'm not that character.
I'm not that... I'm not that guy.

I take care of my responsibilities.

I've been taking my responsibilities
before I moved to Atlanta.

-You can't, sir.
-Yes, I can.

On $25 a month,
you're not supporting a child.

-Your Honor...
-I'm an excellent...

Don't speak.
I want you to be quiet.

-[Amina] This is his arrears...
-I don't want you to speak.

Okay. Yes, ma'am.

That's not the only thing I pay.
I take care of my kids.

[Judge Judy] Well, tell me.
Tell me what you...

-I take care of my kids.
-[Judge Judy] No, just a second.

How do you take care of your kids?

-I provide for them.
-[Judge Judy] How?

If they need...if somebody
needs something, then I do it.

You mean, like if they need
a pair of sneakers?

[Donnie]
If anything. I go get my kids.

Okay, very good.

I came to Georgia
because my kids is in Georgia.

Good. This is the ruling of the court.

The ruling of the court is that
we will notify AKC with regard to the...

Nothing about the defamation
of character or none of that?

[Judge Judy]
...to the dogs.

-Sir...
-[Donnie] My girlfriend is a teacher.

She sent a letter to the superintendent
and threatened that,

"Uh, well, you have
a r*pist in the house,"

and sent letters and pictures,

nude pictures to my mom
posted on the internet.

-Like, I'm...
-[Judge Judy] Just a second.

Did you post nude... Put it down.
Put your thing down.

This is stuff I bought for his kids.

[sighs] Oh, my God.

[Judge Judy]
Do you understand me?

Yes, ma'am.

[Judge Judy]
Now you're being annoying.

Did you post nude pictures of him
on the internet?

No. Your Honor,
he has an OnlyFans account.

[Judge Judy] I'm dismissing your case
the next time you say a word.

Do you understand?

-[Donnie] This is where...
-I'm gonna dismiss your case.

You'll be without
the registration for the puppies.

Do you understand?

This is where she sent people
the text message,

and you can see
it has a little nudity in it,

but I didn't wanna make it big,
obviously, 'cause we're in the courtroom.

But you can see where I'm naked in here.

She sent my military ID to people.

It's been like this.

And then I have text messages
where I tell her to leave me alone,

and all she does is say,
"Oh, not until I get my dog papers.

Not until this happens, not until that.
You wanted an enemy."

I have all of this.

He's never been in the military.

[Judge Judy]
Do you understand what I said?

I'm gonna dismiss your case
the next time you say a word.

-I don't understand, man. This is...
-[Judge Judy] No, just a second.

The next time you say a word,
I'm going to dismiss your case.

Do you understand?

-Yes, ma'am.
-[Judge Judy] Good.

Mr. Alford, what you're claiming, sir,
and I'm gonna do this very quickly.

What you're claiming,
and I can imagine

that this is a course
of conduct that...

What do you want?

I don't want anything.

Then take the finger down.

I understand, Mr. Alford,
that if what you're saying

is that she's embarked
upon a campaign

to harass and embarrass you...

Look at me, Mr. Alford.

What precipitated that?

What precipitated
this campaign of harassment?

Because now you know how to go to court
to get a protective order.

Did you ever bring these allegations

to the judge who heard the application
for a protective order?

That's either a yes or a no.

There is an open case
that I can't discuss,

but she has been locked up
because she has came to my home

and assaulted me and stuff like that
and destroyed property, but...

[Judge Judy]
So, just a second.

So, when you say there's an open case,
where is that open case?

Fulton County.

[Judge Judy]
Is it a criminal case?

[Donnie] Yes.

[Judge Judy]
On what date was she arrested?

[Donnie]
I don't know the exact date.

Do you know on what month
and day and date you were arrested?

April 12th of 2022.

Oh, my God, you people.

Was the issue with her
the papers for the dogs?

-No.
-[Judge Judy] What was the issue?

'Cause I think you said that before
she wanted the papers for the dogs.

The issue is that she wanted
something from me and didn't get that,

you know, 'cause if it was the situation
with just the dogs or anything,

then she would have been left me alone.

If I harassed her, if I r*ped her,
if I did all this stuff to her,

why is she still coming to me?

I'm not coming to her.

It's been a whole year of this,
of this, of being harassed.

Your kids get involved.

I didn't even know the dog had puppies.
I don't follow her.

She's sending me pictures of the...
"Oh, the dogs had puppies. Whoopty whoop."

Like, all of this, it's...

[Judge Judy] I'm gonna explain
something to you, Mr. Alford.

You know, I could be wrong.

I was last wrong about 1947.

I remember I ordered the wrong flavor
ice cream from the Good Humor man.

You each wanted something different
from this relationship.

That's crystal clear to me.

Yes.

[Judge Judy] Whatever her motivation was
clearly was not your motivation.

And eventually, the realization was...

How old are you?

I'm 35.

[Judge Judy]
How old are you?

Forty-six.

Okay, 46 doesn't go into 35.

I learned that.


Okay. So eventually,
it didn't pan out

and there's lots of bad feelings
going into a business with Frenchies.

I actually just feel sorry for the dogs.

But if there was any irritant, Mr. Alford,

any irritant whatsoever that involved
the registration papers for the dogs,

you should have let her have them
because there's...

No.

This is not a question.
This is now a ruling.

You should have let her have them
because a woman scorned

will do nothing short of getting even.

Men are just happy to walk away.

A woman scorned
is a whole different thing.

And what I'm telling you, sir,
if the one irritant

was giving her the papers for the dog,

which there is no way
you paid for these dogs.

-I did.
-[Judge Judy] A penny.

No way you paid for these dogs.
You weren't even paying your own rent.

Anyway, the ruling of the court is you get
the registration papers for the dogs.

Everything else is dismissed.
We're done.

-Oh, my God.
-[Kevin] This court is adjourned.

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At first it was just business,
and then it started getting personal.

The main thing was my dogs.
They are my family.

I had stuff tied to the dogs and business,
and she has stuff tied to the dog,

and we both didn't want to lose anything.

He chose to live on lies.

It's hard to see 'em go,
but it's even more hard

that I'm still out here
as this bad guy.

And if you're living on lies,
then truth is never gonna prevail.

You know, be careful
about who you work with.

The time he assaulted me,

that's when we fell out
and it became an issue.

I feel sorry for the dogs
'cause that's what she's gonna do.

She's gonna breed 'em
and throw 'em in the trash like she said.

I love my dogs.
My kids love my dogs.

And we take care of them.

I don't think anyone with
that type of financial picture

should be able to spend $3,500
per dog on Frenchies

to take up a new breeding hobby,

which, as we've seen, is not a hobby.

That is a business, a profession
that requires an immense amount

-of specialized knowledge...
-And care.

-And care and time.
-Especially for that breed.

Especially for that breed.

People should really not take on
as a side hustle

breeding whatever dog there is
of the month.

-It's not fair.
-It's not a fad.

-It's not a...
-It's not a fad.

You know, I can't even imagine
the living conditions of the five dogs

that the plaintiff has,
and the five puppies,

and the three that he now has
with the new girlfriend.

Find another side hustle.

-Take up crocheting.
-[chuckles]

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