The sock
Is the condom of your foot
That's what's up!
The sock
Is the condom of your foot
Okay. I'll just move over here.
There's nothing more white
than recycling.
I went to a n*gga...
I went to a n*gga middle school.
Did you ever go to a n*gga school?
No.
No.
When people
are in a position of power
that's a very hard decision to make,
to relinquish your power.
No one wants to do it,
and so it's like
we're constantly on that game,
and like
I'm from Boston, bro
I've been around
the whitest of whites.
What's the f*cking
wine expert n*gg*s called?
- Sommelier.
- Sommelier.
I'm that of crackers.
You know what I'm saying?
- The cops?
- The cops.
- It's fear.
- It's fear.
It's fear.
Fear of what you don't know.
So you saying
they don't know no n*gg*s?
- Is that what you saying?
- They don't know n*gga behavior.
But, that's why I don't think...
You're in what I think, right?
What I do think
it's an irrational fear.
And I think we don't talk to the fear
as much as we talk to the racism.
- Yeah. It's the fear.
- And they're defending each other
but these n*gg*s
are f*cking terrified, right?
Right. The black person
is in fear... fear for their life.
The cop, white, fear.
You don't know
the behavior of the other.
It's all fear. Nobody...
We just... "Oh, 'cause he black."
No, you don't know that person.
Like, you don't know
certain behaviors
certain things we do,
certain ways we respond to sh*t.
They don't know that.
I often think about that... lady cop
who k*lled the dude in Minnesota
a little while back.
And she was like,
"It was an accident."
The b*tch was immediately
was crying on the video.
Like, "Oh my God,
what the f*ck have I done?"
And I know for us, we're like
"Nah, b*tch."
- You did it.
- You did it.
And we don't give a f*ck
that you did it.
And it's like, no... yes, this b*tch
should definitely be punished.
If you sh*t at a Quiznos,
you're getting fired.
But I would be a liar if there
wasn't a part of me that's like
"I don't think that lady
meant to do that.
I just think she was
so f*cking scared
that she did, like,
a dumb f*cking thing."
But a life was taken and like
you gotta go for that,
baby girl. Like...
That is what it is, but...
I wonder if...
it's like can we ever...
It's weird. It feels like we just can
never trust these n*gg*s' intentions.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a super...
I think the reason why
there isn't a proper healing
and acknowledgment of all
the things that are going on, right?
There hasn't been a conversation.
There hasn't been a conversation.
But I think also that
the conversation doesn't happen
because we don't...
we aren't accepting the conditions.
At the end of the day, it's like
black people and white people,
it's just a relationship.
A f*cking toxic one
but it's just a relationship.
Why do you think people
stay in a*usive relationships?
Well, they get into
what's called a trauma bond.
Even in
the first episodes
of being abused
yelled at,
hit, whatever
it's like,
"I've gotta fix it."
That kind of bond
even though it's toxic
can be more imprisoning
than a regular love bond.
This need to, like,
please once you're abused?
This need to kind of be accepted
- by the ab*ser?
- Yes.
How does one break that?
If the two people come in for therapy
you basically have to ascertain
if the ab*ser is just
a horrible narcissist and
dyed in the wool, you know, like...
this is... He's not interested
in finding anything out
about himself. Right?
Underneath it, he has a heart
he has remorse, he cares, you know?
He's not a sociopath.
Then you have a chance of actually
changing the relationship.
I cheated on my girl,
and that f*cked up our trust.
And made it so she had
an inability to trust me.
So if I go somewhere and I'm like
"Yeah, babe,
I'm going out with my n*gg*s.
There's gonna be women there
but you don't have nothing
to worry about."
She can't trust that.
You know what I'm saying?
In this metaphor, I'm white people,
you know what I mean?
It's like, they can tell us
all the intentions in the world
but these n*gg*s
are beating us every day.
So we like, "I don't trust
where that energy's coming from."
And the only way to fix that
is you gotta do the work.
Like, my girl, I had to go to
a mad couples' therapy.
I had to suck hella toes.
You know what I mean?
I had to put the f*cking time in
and at the end of the day
where white people are right now
they don't want to do that work.
Like, they just want to keep f*cking
our friends and being like
"Why are you so mad?" It's like...
n*gga, because
you're bugging the f*ck out
- and you won't chill.
- That's the thing.
How would y'all acknowledge that?
Door to door.
- Pamphlets or notes?
- I want you to do all of it, too.
No, no, wait, what's your pitch?
What's your pitch?
You open the door,
and it's Gucci Mane. Go.
First of all, big fan.
I just want you to know, I'm aware of
everything that happened
in the past. And I'm, you know...
- I'm here for you, Gucci Mane.
- Right.
I'm here for you, whatever you need.
I can't offer you money. Obviously,
you have more money than me.
You're doing great.
But just know that you have
a white ally in Anthony DeVito.
That's what I say.
But I do think, what you're saying
is something about, like
the conversation and
the acknowledgment of the history.
Like, I know, when I went to school
it's like, I didn't learn about,
you know... like...
Man, this sounds... whatever.
I've had a couple of Palomas. Look.
But, man, you know, it's like,
it's crazy to me that I had to watch
a YouTube video to learn about
the Igbo Landing.
You know what I mean?
That's something that you just
should be aware of as a kid.
So as you go on, you understand
the history of the country
and the lopsided nature
of the country.
So I do think real,
real knowledge of the past
and real understanding of it
is great for informing
the nuances of the situation
going back centuries.
But there's a part of me that's like,
"Bro, I don't know..."
As black people, I think about
how do we f*cking empower ourselves?
Because they may
never take those steps.
Every n*gga that beats b*tches
doesn't say sorry, my n*gga.
What are the indicators of a person
that can't be redeemed?
A person that is a sociopath?
Well, they don't have any empathy.
And they may fake empathy
but you can tease
that out pretty quickly
because they go into rages when
they get exposed at all
for what they're doing.
Right? If they get confronted, then
they act like the victim.
And are very manipulative
around that.
So when someone has
all of these different signs
of sociopathy
then it's like, okay
the person has no interest in taking
any responsibility for themselves.
Some of them
are just bad n*gg*s, bro.
And they never come to terms
with whoever the f*ck they are
and a part of me is like,
as black people
we need to stop needing them
or waiting for them to do that
and we need to admit that
that's what we're waiting for.
Like, we're at home abused
and we want this m*therf*cker
to come home one day with flowers
and be, "Oh I'm so sorry,
I've been beating your a*s.
I'm a maniac, you're the best thing
that ever happened to me."
And then we go to church together.
You know what I'm saying?
And pray with Nana.
And this n*gga does
a testimony and sh*t.
Like, "I'm-a be
a good God-fearing white man
and I love black people now
and I'm starting
a Christian landscaping business."
And it's like,
that may never come to pass.
It's never coming to pass.
- Right!
- Can I say...
it came to pass a couple times
for me in college
I got too drunk, and I went
to my black friends like
"Hey, I'm sorry."
- And they did not like it.
- No!
Because that's not the apology
that's gonna do anything.
I know.
They're like, "Shut the f*ck up!"
And I was like, "You're right.
You're right. I'm sorry."
- They don't give a sh*t.
- "I'll head back."
Do you think, whether the person
has some empathy
and some redeemable qualities
or is a sociopath
do you believe
that some level of separation
is required between the ab*ser
and the person being abused?
Sometimes you need to get
some space. It all depends on...
I mean, if somebody is a sociopath...
the person needs to get away.
Do you think white and black people
are in an a*usive relationship
in America?
Yes.
Clearly, white people
are unhinged at this point.
- No.
- A hundred percent.
- Wild.
- They're wilding.
From the insurrection
to those milk-chugging videos
I'm like, "Bro."
What's the final result
of the milk chug, though?
We did it. n*gga, what do you mean?
- What do you mean?
- I can't even put milk down, so...
These n*gg*s are
just trying to feel, bruh.
Unhinged n*gg*s,
you know what I'm saying?
These m*therf*ckers
are off course, and it's like
at least we should be
trying to get in their heads
and figure out what the f*ck
are these n*gg*s on?
Because... we have to live with them.
We're actually not separated.
- No.
- So...
What is good with y'all?
And it's weird to me when n*gg*s go
"I don't give a f*ck
what these crackers is on."
It's like, "You better, n*gga."
'Cause these n*gg*s is in the woods
they got mad g*ns
they got half the food supply
and a lot of information
on the national grid.
As four white men
sitting here
- and this is all generalizations...
- Yeah.
...you guys love Fox News
it seems you all love
to be f*cking pissed off
and...
and it seems like
you're a bit pissed off
about everything at this point.
That's not me, man.
- I don't fit in that demographic.
- I'm not saying you do.
But I don't think you can deny that
you know these m*therf*ckers.
I definitely see 'em.
I avoid 'em. I don't like 'em.
And it's like...
I guess I'm just wondering
what do you guys
honestly, truly think the deal is?
f*ck, that's a hell of a question.
You may have picked
the wrong four guys because...
- Yeah.
- You know what I mean?
- We don't talk to those people.
- I didn't say that, but...
But you have no, like...
I don't hang out... I don't hang out
with g*ng members, bro
- in my neighborhood and sh*t.
- Sure.
I don't f*ck around
with drug dealers.
But if you ask me,
"Yo, what's going on over there?"
I can give you some insight
to probably what the f*ck
is going on over there.
So I'm not saying it is you, and
I think this is a part of the problem
if I'm being honest, right?
Is that...
it's scary for white men
to even acknowledge these white men
because there's a separation
of like, "That's not what I'm on."
- Right.
- But it's like...
"But bro, you gotta know
more than me."
'Cause I'm nowhere near
whatever those emotions are.
Yeah.
I'm f*cking seething angry.
Like, I am f*cking really pissed off.
Why wouldn't you be?
The Floyd uprising, the insurrection,
the trucker convoy.
These are just spasms
in the birth of a new world.
Like, this is gonna continue
to happen
and it gets colored by
our divided politics.
But people are f*cking pissed off.
Like, people are f*cking pissed off.
They're pissed off because they're
k*lling black kids in the street.
Like, they're pissed off
because you gotta take a vaccine.
They're pissed off because
they're tired of being f*cking k*lled
and told what to do
and f*cking manipulated by the media
and all this sh*t, man.
People are f*cking sick of it.
Well, Fox News, I think,
is a different problem.
I mean, if you only watch Fox News
you're probably gonna think
the entire world is gonna k*ll you
if you're a white guy.
- Yeah.
- Like, you're gonna be terrified
of everything that's different
and scares you.
They're just afraid of
being replaced.
- Yeah, that's fear.
- That's it.
- I think it's fear.
- They're scared of being replaced.
- They're scared that...
- They won't be on top anymore.
They won't be on top
that a black woman, in particular,
is gonna take their job and...
- It's a simple...
- Oh, they scared of me?
- Yeah.
- See, that's what I'm saying.
Hook me up. Tell me what's up.
It's simple sh*t. It's not...
- Let me know the deal, bro.
- These are not deep people.
Like, they say like
"You're gonna replace
white people at the top"
or "You're gonna replace
Western civilization."
Like, that's one of the key,
you know, code words
is Western civilization.
Like, Western civilization
is gonna be replaced.
It's not deep sh*t. It's just like
basic fear of losing
your status in society.
Do you think that
they're gonna get over it
or they're gonna bug the f*ck out?
What do you think's
gonna happen first?
- They're not gonna get over it.
- They're not gonna get over...
They're gonna
bug the f*ck out, right?
- They're gonna die off.
- They'll take it to the grave.
The next generation will hook...
We just got to
have a little faith in...
They're louder than
the number of them actually are.
Like, Charlottesville
was really f*cking loud.
But, like, you don't meet many
white men that are really like that.
Like, you really don't. And if you do
meet them, you're just like...
I always say that Neo-Confederates
are like redneck Hoteps.
Like, you know, you just like,
what the f*ck...
What, the w*r of Northern Aggression?
Like, why are you talking to me
about this sh*t? You know?
Like, I don't care. Like...
It's easy to say like,
"Oh, there's not that many."
But like, they're in
the f*cking police force.
They're in positions of power.
They're in places
where they could really hurt me
and hurt black people.
And I don't know if,
once the shift starts happening
there won't be other white people
that were kind of
on the line of this sh*t...
- Right.
- ...and just lean into that sh*t
and go like, "Yo, f*ck it."
You know what I'm saying?
And then we're in some...
- Crazy race w*r?
- ...crazy f*cking...
race w*r with all this residual anger
coming from all these places.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know,
because you would like to believe
a lot of sh*t would still happen.
You know, so how can I
not believe it's possible that...
not for nothing
the thing that has gone
crazy on me repeatedly
is gonna f*cking go crazy on me.
- Yes.
- I feel you.
History has taught you that it will.
That's fair. So just prepare.
The crackers are coming!
The crackers are coming!
Put away all racial distractions,
and prepare for the real threat.
The crackers are coming!
The crackers are coming!
The crackers are coming!
The crackers are coming!
Prepare yourselves.
The crackers are coming!
n*gga, did you know
you could live two weeks without food
but only 72 hours without water?
The crackers are coming!
The crackers are coming!
The crackers are coming!
Don't worry about Obama,
go protect your mama!
The crackers are coming!
Did you know
ChapStick could be used as a candle
and also to stop a wound
from bleeding?
The crackers are coming!
Y'all n*gg*s need to get off
the Shade Room and get a generator!
The crackers are coming!
Did you know you can
make your own menthol?
All you have to do
is melt down some candy canes
and pour gasoline on it.
The crackers are coming!
The crackers are coming!
Are y'all ready for Jumanji?
'Cause the crackers are.
They're coming!
The crackers are coming!
Stop worrying about Jada and Will,
and start worrying about jam.
We're jamless, y'all.
Preserves people. Preserves!
Insecure is over.
Learn a skill, n*gg*s.
The crackers are coming!
The crackers are coming!
You need to stop quoting
Nelson Mandela on TikTok
and start learning
how to purify your own pee.
The crackers are coming!
The crackers are coming!
The crackers are coming!
The crackers are coming!
Be prepared!
Now which one of y'all n*gg*s
could tell me
how to get
to Marcus Garvey Boulevard?
You could go to
a Black Lives Matter rally
you can go to all this sh*t,
you'll see white...
More than anything,
you'll see white women.
- Right out.
- Hearts are bleeding.
- Hearts are bleeding.
- Hearts are bleeding.
Why are they doing this?
And I'm like
"Why aren't you in these
trailer park f*cking areas
with these despondent-a*s
white boys...
- Thank you.
- ...who are lost in the sauce
who are being manipulated
into f*cking racial groups.
The same way black kids are
being turned into Bloods and Crips
they're being turned
into Nazis and sh*t
'cause they don't have answers,
they don't have outlets
they don't have money,
they don't have access.
And they're not gonna listen
to me, b*tch.
I mean, I think maybe
the big reason that, like
white women aren't doing that
it's much easier to be like,
"Oh no, I'm a victim too."
"I'm not white. I'm a woman."
And then
you don't have to admit
your proximity to it
because the second you go
and help them, you're like
"Damn, what role did I play in this?
If this is my brother,
if this is my dad
if it's my cousins,
how did I, like...
I was there. Why did they..."
You know? And so, I think
it probably is the fear of like
"I don't wanna be the bad guy.
It's much easier to be the victim.
So I'll just stay over here
and pretend I'm not
even related to them."
But I find that white women
can value everyone else's experience
except for white men.
They can value it
and they can know
it's not a hissy fit and whatever.
And it's like... and it's a weird
place. I know. As a black l*sbian
it's so weird
that I'm empathetic to white men.
But I find it's very odd
that when these n*gg*s are like
"Hey!" Everyone's just kinda like
"Shut the f*ck up."
And if that's the constant
how do we not expect you
to turn Joker?
You know? Like, how do we
not expect to create a villain?
It's like we just yelling
at these n*gg*s all day.
"Elvis isn't the king
of rock and roll!"
"You didn't invent the red light!"
"You f*cking suck!"
And it's like, "Bro!"
That's the thing. We're not holding
ourselves accountable by how much...
- Bro!
- You're pissed
and we're telling them like...
You can't do that to any person.
You can't make someone
accept all their mediocrity at once.
That's like flushing a bunch
of tennis ba*ls down the toilet.
sh*t is gonna get on your shoes,
my n*gga, like...
- I know it's very poignant.
- It's just like any relationship...
That's what I'm saying,
it's a relationship.
And you can't just be like...
Are you, like, concerned
about, like, crazy white men
just gonna help burn
this country down
- and you should prepare for it?
- f*ck yeah.
f*ck yeah. I have...
I have like... I'm very afraid
of the woods whites.
The ones that don't
come out the woods.
- Yeah.
- I'm really worried about
- what the f*ck they got going on.
- Yeah.
I do think, like, there's this
- fear of loss.
- Yeah.
And I feel like
when people are spiraling
- they become very dangerous.
- Yeah.
I know, almost like
the Liberty people, you know?
They're all like,
"Freedom for everybody."
They don't play that race sh*t.
They're like...
This is for every American.
I guess, to be honest, and to be true
I don't know that black people trust
that white men think we're Americans.
And I don't know
that black people trust
that white men think we're people.
And I don't know that
black people trust that white men
- include us in everybody.
- Really?
So when you say,
"Freedom for everybody"
or "liberty for everybody"
I still don't think
you talking about me.
- No, but that's real.
- But it's best...
if you're only listening
to the boomer Fox News...
No, I'm listening to the history
of the country.
But that's real... That's real.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm listening
to what it's meant forever.
- I'm listening to when it's said...
- But there's been a lot of progress.
- ...to me in the f*cking world...
- There's a lot of progress.
...and it hasn't included me.
This isn't things that I haven't
experienced in my lifetime.
But the thing is, like
you can say all day,
"I'm not r*cist."
But really?
Really, am I not r*cist?
You got to do some deep f*cking work
to get that sh*t out of you.
Like, if you're a white man.
You really do.
You have to do a deep
f*cking personal, like, reflection.
- And like...
- You gotta give a sh*t about being
- a decent person with character.
- You got to give a sh*t about it.
You got to give a sh*t about
when you walk into the gas station
and there's a black person
in front of you, that's like
you know,
doing something you don't like
what are you thinking?
Like, you got to be
conscious of that sh*t.
It's in that process
when you're deciding
what kind of f*cking man
you want to be.
- Yeah.
- And you know...
I agree with you.
You know, what kind of, you know...
If you got to live with yourself
you got to walk, you know...
And deeply look
into yourself
and actually value
those things
which would hopefully curb
your fears of such things
because that sh*t
shouldn't be going on.
You shouldn't have to f*cking
worry about things like that.
You shouldn't have to worry.
And especially from any certain sect
of our community
and that sucks that you do,
you know?
I often wonder...
why white women
don't refocus their energy
into the thing they created?
That's a great question.
White women, I mean,
I can't speak for all of them.
- Of course not.
- You know...
Feel a lot of...
despair
about really being able
to reach white men.
There is this
understanding within
the black community
that black men are ours.
Right? I have a very particular
affinity for black men. I know...
And you know,
it's rooted somewhat in sl*very
and the fact that
they're gonna go out in the world
- and totally get f*cked with.
- Right.
But there's this need
that I have to protect them.
I feel like black men,
when they've been at their worst.
In the '80s, when n*gg*s
was crackheads everywhere
and stealing sh*t, you would still
see a black woman on the news
next to a crackhead going
"He's our brother
and we gonna get him together."
- Right.
- And this is not a bad guy.
But when I see a young white boy
run in a building,
and sh**t up a church
which clearly indicates
so much loss, trauma
and just lack of being connected
I see white women go,
"What a piece of sh*t!"
Instead of entering themselves
in those communities
where they look like these people.
Like, at the end of the day, I can't
walk in there and save these men.
I don't know the experience.
It is not of me, but it is of them.
Right.
Where is that disconnect
amongst white people?
I think the disconnect is that
white men have had the power.
Even more than white women.
I think, from what
you're talking about
with... in terms of what you said
about your feelings
with black men, right?
It's like a way of survival.
And there isn't...
There been that need for...
- The necessity isn't there.
- Right, exactly.
- The necessity isn't there.
- Right.
But it is.
- I agree. I agree.
- You know what I mean?
But I do wonder,
because clearly that it is
there is a need for it.
- Because white men are spiraling.
- I agree.
- That's very obvious.
- Yes.
Why can't the community
see the need?
Arrogance.
I think
there's a lot of arrogance
in men,
white men, and white women.
Some part of my core is a separatist.
Some part of my core is like
"We can't work it out
with these n*gg*s."
We should have just did
what Marcus Garvey said.
We should have just got
the f*ck out of here when we could
but we didn't, we stayed here,
and named streets after a n*gga
who didn't want us to be here.
Which was very backwards and dumb
but that's what we did.
- And now that we're here, it's...
- And all them streets be violent.
And now that we're here,
there's a level of like
so we're not going anywhere,
you feel me?
We're too ingrained with each other.
And the truth is, we love each other.
We f*cking, we're family,
we're friends
we're lovers at this point.
We make Cheerios commercials
together, like...
We're doing the thing,
you know what I mean?
So we're not gonna
f*cking break up.
So...
in the current state that we're in,
right? We're experiencing
a lack of white people
taking responsibility...
- Yes.
- ...to some degree, right?
- Yes.
- A lack of empathy
and that lack
of taking responsibility
and that lack of empathy,
shows itself through
financial disparities.
It shows itself through
disparities within healthcare.
It shows itself through
actual physical violence.
So if black people
could embody a woman
sitting across from you
going through those things
what would you advise her to do?
Do you think white and black people
are in an a*usive relationship
in America?
Yes.
Well, do we need to leave?
The crackers are coming.
They're coming, y'all.
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02x02 - The Crackas Is Coming
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Each episode takes place in a house party, where comedian Sam Jay talks to guests over drinks about the episode's central topic.
Each episode takes place in a house party, where comedian Sam Jay talks to guests over drinks about the episode's central topic.