02x03 - Lisa & Tee

[bunniefuu]

♪ MTV ♪

No!

♪ Yeah, I've been hidin'
in plain sight this whole time♪

[Travis] You've met the love
of your life.

I looked in her eyes,
and I just saw my other half.

[Rahne] But they're hiding
a massive secret...

You.

Have you ever met anyone
in his family?

No.

He blocked me from
his social media.

I need to meet someone in
your life.

[Rahne] I'm Rahne Jones.

[Travis] And I'm Travis Mills.

[Rahne] We help desperate people
who are being kept secret

find out why.

Why are you hiding me?

I need answers, or this is it.

[Travis] Will relationships
survive...

How could you do this to me?

I had to call these people
to help me!

[Travis] When faced with
the truth?

[Lisa] Oh, hell no.

I can't do this.
I can't.

[Rahne] Just one second.
Hey, hey, hey...

Get the [bleep] outta my house!

[Travis] This is MTV's Help!
I'm in a Secret Relationship!

[Travis] Tonight,
we're in Detroit

with mother and son
Lisa and Tee.

They were as close as a parent
and her kid can be

up until a year ago,

when Lisa realized Tee had her
blocked from social media.

Like a full-on block?

Yeah.

[Travis] And is hiding her
from his life.

[Lisa] You don't know what's
goin' on with him?

[Travis] Tee thinks he's on
a show about

up-and-coming rappers.

But we're here to uncover
the truth.

"My baby daddy better
than yours."

My son is a box snatcher.

Yeah, I can show you what
the lady looks like.

-We met her...
-What the [bleep]?

Yesterday.

[Rahne] Baby mama drama.

How do you walk away from
your own flesh and blood?

Like, don't be shy now.
Say what you gotta say.

I didn't mean to hurt you
or anything.

Oh, hell no.
Like, why?

I'm done.

♪ Yeah, I'm spicin' it up ♪

♪ Like pepper and salt ♪

♪ Yeah, I'm hot as the sun,
I'm bringin' the heat ♪

-Yes, we're in Detroit!
-We are in Detroit.

This is my first time here,

I know that it is
a big music town.

It's historical, right?

Absolutely, you got Motown,
Hitsville U. S. A.,

the Temptations, Jackson Five,
like...

I just, you know,
love bein' here.

A hundred percent.
But what brings us to Detroit?

We're in Detroit to meet Lisa.

And, and this is a very
unique situation for us.

We've never done anything
like this before,

because we're here to help her
with Tee.

Who happens to be her son.

So, you know you're
the only one who get

this special treatment from me,

because I don't do this
for nobody but you.

I already know it.

I'm Lisa, I'm the owner of
Bathed in Glamour.

My son Tee is
my business partner

and my best friend,

because the type of bond
we have.

We've been together basically
all of my life.

I had Tee when I was 16.

I finished high school,
went to college.

He was with me every step
of the way.

We were homeless, we had to live
in the car,

we had to live in a shelter.

We had to definitely, you know,
struggle together.

And that bond between us,

I always tried to raise him
to be tough, be strong,

be motivated, be a true hustler.

Just get whatever you want
outta life

and be a good person
at the same time.

I just love everything that
you've taught me,

because it made me turn into
a man.

Yeah like, I really love you
for everything that you do.

[Lisa] I love you, too.

Give me a hug now.

You know, his father's not
in the picture.

You know, when he was younger...

I don't know the type of
relationship they have now

'cause he's grown, but...

I've always been Mom and Dad.

I always been Tee's backbone.

Don't cry, 'cause you gon' make
me cry.

-You know?
-I ain't about to cry on camera.

And you know, my son knows
how hard I work,

how dedicated I am to make
a better life for us.

And that I'm gonna do everything
I can to support you.

I'm sorry, we've been...

We've been through a lot.

And I just wanna see him
do good.

Can we cut?
I'm sorry.

Hey.
What's that?

[Tee] Some groceries.

How you feelin'?

[Lisa] Good, good.

It's nice seein' you.

I appreciate you always
takin' care of me.

Tee and I, you know,
we are really close,

but I can definitely tell
it's been a shift.

You about to help me cook?

I ain't got time for
all of that right now.

So, where are you goin'?
You about to leave?

[Tee] I just brought you
the groceries.

-[Lisa] Okay.
-[Tee] All right, see you later.

[Lisa] All right.

He definitely does not come over
like he used to.

We would cook, we would listen
to music,

we would joke,
and he doesn't do that anymore.

Even if he does come over,
he's busy on his phone.

Where you goin'?

You don't know what's goin' on
with him?

[Von] No.

[Lisa] Nobody knows
what's goin' on.

That's been goin' on for awhile.

You know what else been
goin' on for awhile?

-What?
-[Von] That dry macaroni.

My macaroni is not dry, shut up.

And I feel like he's hiding me.

And I don't know why
he's hiding me.

But I deserve to know,
as a mother,

what's goin' on with my son.

And I feel like it's somethin'
bad, because...

He doesn't wanna tell me.

I'm the cutoff queen.

He knows I'm no tolerance,

I'm not gonna play even though
he's my son.

I'll cut him out of my life.
Seriously.

I don't even know what
this looks like.

Like, how does the son hide
his mother?

So we're walkin' into
kind of a situation

we've never been in before.

We don't know what to expect.

How do you walk away from
your own flesh and blood?

I mean, I'm hoping you don't.

[Travis] Yeah.

We're gonna head to Lisa's
house.

-All right.
-Let's do it.

Warm car.

♪ Work, come on, work, yeah ♪

♪ I'm about to get it,
I'm about to get it now ♪

♪ Work, come on, work ♪

[Travis] She said she's hosting
a podcast.

Okay.

-[Lisa] Hey, how are you!
-[Rahne] How you doin', Lisa?

-Yes.
-[Rahne] Okay, okay.

-How you doin'?
-Nice to meet you.

-Nice to meet you.
-How are you?

Nice to meet you.

ReRe.
How you doin'?

We'll be right with you,
we're just wrappin' up.

-Okay, okay.
-So, tune in.

Next week's topic is
what's deep.

Do hurt people hurt people?

So stay tuned, it's gonna be
some juicy things goin' on.

Tune in, we'll see you soon.
Thank you!

-All right.
-I got a meeting to go to.

- I'll talk to you later.
-[Lisa] I'll talk to you soon.

It was nice meetin' you guys.

-You too.
-[Lisa] Okay.

I wanna grab a chair over here.

[Lisa] Okay, yep.

I mean, you got the podcast
set up.

[Rahne] Great setup, I love it.

Well, I thank you guys
for comin' out.

I really appreciate this.

We're here, we're ready to help.

So, why don't you kinda take us
through everything

that's been goin' on with Tee?

You know, I had him at
a young age.

Me bein' a single mother,
he's always like,

"Mom, you're so strong to take
care of everyone."

So, he feels like he has to be
the man of the house.

And I'm proud of him.

We are always close.

We're best friends,
we grew up together.

We do everything together.

And, you know, I'm his manager.

Now, you say you're,
you're his manager.

What exactly do, do you manage?

[Lisa] I manage his music.

-He's a rapper.
-[Travis] Awesome.

Yeah, but he's really good.
He's really talented.

♪ I ain't got no friends
so I'm talkin' to the mic ♪

♪ They say that they my friend♪

♪ Now I'm talkin',
that ain't right ♪

♪ For real, I can't be runnin'
fake [bleep] ♪

♪ I really wanna feel the love♪

So, he came to me ten years ago,
when he was 17.

So, I heard his music and
I'm like,

"You got the look,
you got the product.

I'll do it.

I'll invest the time,
I'll invest the money in it."

So, this is like
a family business.

-This is...
-[Lisa] Yeah.

I mean, Mom's managing.

We got Tee that's the artist.

This is, it's a lot.

[Lisa] It's a lot.

And then lately something's
kinda been

kinda been awkward with him.

I mean, describe that.

You know, he's...

Not the same.

Like, we're talkin' at
the table, he would, you know,

his phone would ring,
and he'll walk out the room.

He always talks on the phone
in front of me.

And when I call him,
he doesn't answer.

Or if he comes by, he'll short,
you know,

"Hey, Mom.
I gotta go."

He hasn't been showin' up to
his rehearsals.

I'm his manager.

So I have full access to
everything,

and business-wise, everything.

But he blocked me from,
you know, his social media.

So, you know...

[Rahne] It's like
a full-on block?

[Lisa] Yeah.

Like, you cannot access his
pages?

No, not anymore.

I'm not a nosy mother,

I'm not tryin' to control
his life.

But I'm bein' aware,
as a mother,

like, somethin' has shifted in
my child's behavior toward me.

And for how long has that
been going on?

Oh, for a while.
Probably...

Like almost I'll say a year.

And have you brought your
concerns to him?

Yes, so every time I try
to talk to him,

he just brushed me off.

Like, "Stop botherin' me.
Leave me alone.

I'm busy."

It's never been like that,
we can talk about anything.

Why do you think you're being
hidden by your son?

It's gotta be somethin' serious

for him to keep something
away from me.

Maybe he's...

So look, I'mma be completely
honest with you.

All right?

My son has a problem with women!

I call him a box snatcher.

He's always in somebody's box.

And he's runnin' me to really...

- A box snatcher.
- [Lisa] Put a key on it.

Okay.

So, maybe he's keepin' me
away from him

because of a female.

Maybe he got somebody pregnant.

Oh God, I don't wanna think
about that.

I just don't wanna deal with it.

I don't think he's ready,

I don't think he's a good judge
of character

when it comes to women.

Can you elaborate just
a little bit more?

All I will say is things have
occurred.

These women have
come to my house,

broke my window out of my car.

Yeah, knocked on my door,
tryin' to break things

and it's just...

I'll just say his drama
becomes my problem.

Always.

At the end of the day,
you just don't know.

-Yeah.
-Right?

So the speculation in your mind
is racing...

That's why I called you guys.

I'm confused.

And I, I don't wanna cry, so...

-[Travis] It's okay.
-[Rahne] It's all right.

This is heavy, this is...
This is...

[Lisa] I really miss the times
that we had.

I really feel hurt.
I feel disappointed.

So...

I'm sorry.

[Travis] No, you're okay.

♪ I can't help but be calm,
lyin' in the dark now ♪

♪ I can't help but be calm,
lying where you are ♪

Can you help me figure out,
you know...

What he's hiding?

[Travis] Yeah.
Well...

I need some answers.

Well, we're definitely here
to help.

And we are gonna get you
some answers.

What kinda show does he think
he's on?

He thinks he's on a show for

upcoming rappers
and artists here.

-So you know...
-So you played the manager card.

Like, "Yo, I got you on
this TV show."

-Hell yeah.
-[Travis] I'm sure he's...

-He's excited.
-[Travis] He's excited.

You know...

All right Lisa, we'll hit
the ground running

and we'll get you all
the answers you need.

[Lisa] Thank you.

♪ On the floor,
time to raise it up ♪

♪ Put your level high,
we're never givin' up ♪

[Rahne] I cannot imagine to
one day wake up

and your child just essentially

like, doesn't wanna have
anything to do with you.

Like, she birthed this person,

and he is keeping her
completely distant.

[Travis] Yeah, I mean,
the thing I will say

is that it's one thing to be
friends with your mom.

It's another thing to be
friends, business partners...

There is no boundary,
it feels like,

from the outside looking in.

I say we kinda dive into
socials.

-Yeah.
-And see what's goin' on.

Lisa sent over...
Yep.

The socials.

But Lisa isn't seeing
any of this.

[Travis] Mm-hm.

So, what do you think it is
that Tee doesn't want

his mom to see?

I mean, the first post on
his page is...

♪ I can't find love,
or it don't like me ♪

♪ I don't want love,
it don't excite me ♪

Very Detroit.

Oh, very Detroit.

Let's look at the comments here.

Lots of positivity.

"Check your DM's",
"Fire".

[Travis] "Goin' crazy."

"That beat is hard AF."

It is.

Oh, look.

"My baby daddy pressure".

Oh, there she is again.

Sapphire, "My baby."

[Travis] "I'm so proud of you,
my baby.

My baby daddy better than
yours."

All right, let's check out

-Sapphire's profile.
-[Rahne] Okay.

There she is.

[Travis] Hello there.

[Rahne] Sapphire...

Okay, it says she's having
a photoshoot tomorrow.

I mean, I'm wondering if she's
willin' to meet up with us.

It seems like they have
a connection.

-Send her a message, yeah.
-Maybe she can...

"Hi, Sapphire."

-[Travis] Boom.
-[Rahne] Boom.

I would love to know,

is Sapphire who Tee is hiding
Lisa from?

[Rahne] Yeah.

[Travis] Coming up.

We're not here to stir up
any problems.

I can show you what the lady
looks like.

-We met her...
-What the [bleep]?

-Yesterday.
-Really?

Oh, hell nah.
Like, why?

[Travis] Lisa, are you okay?

[Lisa] [bleep].

♪ Trend setter right now ♪

♪ Summon day one my cloud ♪

[Travis] We're in Detroit to
help Lisa

find out why her son Tee
has been hiding her.

Lisa asked her to contact David,

her youngest son
and Tee's brother,

and he's agreed to talk.

But first, we're headed to meet
a woman named Sapphire,

who finally got back to us.

We're meeting her at a park
where she's doing a photoshoot.

[music]

Hello.

[Travis] Are you Sapphire?

[Sapphire] Yes.

[Travis] Hey, I'm Travis.

[Rahne] I'm Rahne.

Can you give us a minute,
please?

[Travis] We're doin' a show
with MTV.

And we got contacted by a woman
named Lisa,

who feels like she is being
hidden by her son Tee.

And we know that you know Tee.

Right.

I mean, look, at the end
of the day,

we're trying to, to help Tee.

-Right?
-[Sapphire] Right.

And obviously his relationship
with his mom.

We're not here to
kinda stir up any problems

-or anything like that.
-Right.

So, we did a deep dive of,
you know, his social media.

And...

We saw your name pop up
several times,

commenting on a lot of
his posts.

And I guess I just wanna know,
how do you know Tee?

Tee, like, that's my baby.

So, you guys are together?

No, no, like...

It's platonic, just friends.

-[Rahne] Okay.
-[Travis] Okay, so...

-Not together.
- Okay.

Y'all don't have a kid together?

-No, no, no.
-Okay.

We've known each other for
three years,

like, networkin', hustlin'.

So, when you comment, like,
"That's my baby daddy"...

I'm just trolling.

I'm just saying, I talk [bleep].

I say stuff.

So many girls are always comin'
at him

and talkin' to him,
and it's just like, no.

Okay.

But you can see
from the outside...

No, we're friends.

Got it.

-[Sapphire] We're just friends.
-Okay.

[Travis] Do you know if Tee is
involved with any other women?

You'd have to ask him.

[Travis] Okay.

So you, are you, are you being,
like, coy with us?

-Like you know, but...?
-You'd have to ask him.

Okay, all right, all right,
all right.

That's a good friend.

Why do you think he's hiding
his mom?

He's a man, and he's
independent.

He needs to do his own thing.
That's what he wants.

I think that Tee is hiding
his mom

because he's tired of being
a mama's boy.

-Okay, and...
-[Sapphire] Simple.

Do you think he gets called that
by other...?

Like is that a title that
kinda got stuck to him?

Or is it like just how
he's been feeling?

Her being his manager,

how are you gonna think
that he's not

following after
what his mom says?

He needs to branch off, grow up.
He's a young man.

It's about time.

-Time to leave the nest.
-[Sapphire] Exactly.

-[Rahne] The comfort of Mom.
-Right.

[Travis] Family is difficult.

Family is challenging no matter
what family you're a part of.

It is.

So, we'll let you get back
to your photoshoot.

[Sapphire] Go back to my
photoshoot.

-Thank you so much
-[Sapphire] Great to meet you.

[Travis] Have a good one.

That's good news.

[Rahne] Yeah, no baby mama
drama with Sapphire, right?

[Travis] No baby mama drama.

♪ Hey, no slowin' down,
we're headin' for the crown ♪

♪ They can never shut us down
'cause we always makin' sounds♪

[Travis] I am excited to go
see David.

Right, this is Tee's brother,
and Lisa's other son.

And I just wanna understand
the family dynamic

of how this kinda rift is
affecting everyone.

[Travis] Sapphire herself just
said that, you know,

he wants to kinda blossom into
his own man, and I get it.

You don't want your mom involved
in every aspect of your life.

But when she's
also your manager,

that's kinda her job.

[Rahne] Yeah, when you got
business involved,

it's just kind of a mess.

[music]

♪ Hey ♪

♪ Hey ♪

Hey, how's it goin'?

[Rahne] How you doin'?

David, how you been?

-Rahne.
-Hey David, I'm Travis.

-David.
-Hey, man.

[Rahne] Can we come in?
-Yeah, come on in.

-Cool.
-[Rahne] Thank you.

Little cold out there.

[Travis] Thanks for havin' us.

No problem.

-Y'all can have a seat.
-[Rahne] Okay, thank you.

[Travis] All right, thank you.

As you know, we're in Detroit
to help Lisa, right?

[David] Right.

And she says there's a mark of
difference

in Tee and her's relationship.

Has your mom at all confided in
you about, like,

how she's feeling about
the situation?

Yeah, it's just hurtin' her
feelings, really.

That's why she I guess contacted
you guys.

She just wants to know.

[Travis] Yeah.

What's it been like for you

kinda havin' to,
to play both sides

in, in this situation?

When it comes to, like,
Tee and my mom,

I try to stay, like, out of...

Conflict with them,
if that makes sense.

[Travis] Has your brother ever
kind of talked to you

in private like, "Yo, I gotta
get somethin' off my chest."

Yeah, Tee, he turn to me a lot
to vent.

My mom's always been his
manager.

And he doesn't think that she's
pushin' him as much

as she used to,

as a manager should.

For him to, to excel
as a artist.

Do you feel like this has
created a resentment with Tee

against your mom?

Like, do you feel like he deals
a certain type of way about it?

Like, he's tired of bein'
a mama's boy.

I wouldn't necessarily say...

I mean, I guess feel
a certain type of way,

but it's because he wants
to get a new manager.

He doesn't want her to be
his manager any more.

Do you know if he's actively
looking?

I heard him on
the phone one time,

talkin' to this lady.

About...

Actually her bein'
his new manager.

Do you know who he's on
the phone with?

I can show you what
the lady looks like.

My mom said that Tee was on
the radio,

and she was the host.

[music]

ReRe...

No.

-We met her...
-What the [bleep]?

Yesterday.

She was at your mom's house...

-Doin' a podcast!
-Doin' a podcast with your mom!

ReRe, how you doin'?

And you're positive that it was
a conversation about

being a manager?

Yeah.

You're 100% certain that it was
with ReRe?

Yeah, I just know her
as the radio host.

'Cause that's how I met her,

I was there when he, when we
went to the radio station.

[Travis] So, your mom brought
Tee to the radio station.

I'm assuming he did an
interview,

they played some of his music
on the radio.

Yeah.

And now...

ReRe is talkin' to your brother
behind your mom's back,

talkin' about if she was
his manager.

Yeah, just givin' him the pro's
[unintelligible].

Oh my God.
This is like, I mean...

This is some shady-a*s [bleep],
I'm sorry.

If I'm puttin' myself in
your mom's shoes, right?

One, it's gonna break her heart

that your bother wants
a new manager.

Right.

To add insult to injury,

your friend stabs you
in the back

to go and manage your son.

I wouldn't even wanna be able to
tell her that.

That's why I'm hopin' you could
tell her.

Yeah?
Well I mean, we, we...

Definitely kinda have to.

♪ The day go flashy ♪

♪ So much money, I can't... ♪

♪ Count nothin', a mansion ♪

[Travis] We're in Detroit,

helping Lisa find out why
her son Tee

has blocked her from his life.

We just learned some informatin
from Tee's brother, David,

that could destroy this family.

David is kind of in the middle.

And I feel for all parties
involved.

[Travis] Well I mean,
David even said,

like, "Yo, I don't want anything
I say to kinda get back to Tee."

-Yeah.
-"And I don't wanna get

in the middle of my mom
and Tee."

So I feel like, you know,
this is what is gonna make

this one so tricky.

Right?
Dealing with, with family.

Is everyone feels like
they're in the middle.

I mean, I do not envy anyone
in this situation, right?

Now, ReRe.
I feel like I have whiplash.

I bet money that Lisa would be
extremely appalled

and feel betrayed that
ReRe would be talking

about management options
to Lisa's son.

Absolutely.
And you know, let me...

Okay, I'm about to look her up.

Says she's a TV/radio host,
we knew that.

Artist management.

Okay, there's a phone number.

Should we call her?

Yeah.
Let's do it.

[phone dialing]

[ReRe] Hello?

Hi, is this ReRe?

[ReRe] Yeah.
Who is this?

This is Travis and Rahne with
that MTV show.

We met you yesterday
at Lisa's house,

while you all were doin'
a podcast.

[ReRe] Oh, yeah?

Yeah, I know this is a bit,
kinda awkward,

because, you know,
we met you in passing.

I'm not sure if Lisa explained
the whole scenario with you.

-[ReRe] No...
-Okay.

So, we're here helping her
because she feels like

her son Tee, is, is kind of
hiding her.

[ReRe] Oh.

We just spoke with
Lisa's son David,

and he brought up your name.

And what David has told us that

he heard Tee on the phone
with someone,

potentially talking about
new management

and kinda strategizing about
what this new manager

would do for him and his career.

And when we asked who was on
the other end of the phone call,

he told us it was you.

[ReRe] I mean...

Uh...

Obviously we're here to get,
get to the bottom of everything,

because there is, is some
friction in the family.

So that's why we're doing
some digging.

[ReRe] Um...
So...

That's really between them,
you know?

Do you have any idea why Tee
could be hiding his mom?

[ReRe] I was just...

I don't know, like,
I don't know.

I don't know.

Thank you so much, ReRe.
Appreciate it.

[ReRe] All right, bye.

[Rahne] It sounds like ReRe
is trying to...

Gain a client
and steal her friend's son.

It's crazy to me,

and then to have this person sit
across from you,

hosting a show with you...

It's shady as hell,
is what it is.

If ReRe is the reason why
Tee is hiding his mom,

Tee needs to step up,
he needs to be a man,

and he needs to tell the truth
to his mom.

[music]

[music]

♪ Yo, yeah, I'm comin' through
like rhinos ♪

♪ Dead on my rival,
my bravado, my motto ♪

♪ I'm talkin' fast money,
bad honeys ♪

♪ Models on models ♪

♪ We got thousand dollar
bottles ♪

[Travis] It's a new day in
the Motor City

with Lisa and Tee.

Yesterday, we uncovered
some secrets

that could
break this family apart.

We gave Lisa the night,

and now we're on our way to
her salon to break the news.

[Rahne] I'm wondering how
this is gonna go,

because you know, if Tee decides
to sit down and, and have, a,

an honest conversation
with his mom,

this is a family dynamic.

The personal ramifications of
this are really intense,

and I just hope that we have a,
a positive outcome here.

I'm putting myself into this
conversation already, right?

-Yeah.
-[Travis]Like I'm thinkin' like,

you, me, Lisa, Tee.

Do you know what I feel like?

I feel like, did you ever go
over to your friend's house

when you were like, a kid,

and you're eatin' dinner with
their family,

and their family gets into
a fight?

Exactly, they're bickering.

And you're like, tryin' to chew
your food,

-and you're just like, "Uh..."
-"I'mma enjoy this chicken.

It is delicious."

Also, how are you a rapper
and scared of your mom?

[Rahne laughing]

♪ You better check the style ♪

I'mma be up next,
I'mma take the crown ♪

♪ I came to run this town ♪

[Rahne] Here we go, Travis.

Here she is.

[Rahne] Thank you.

-[Lisa] Hey, how are you?
-[Rahne] Hi, Lisa.

How are you doin'?

Thank you for havin' us,
it's good to see you.

You're welcome.
You too, you too.

All right.
It's good to see you.

-You too, welcome.
-[Travis] Thank you.

To Bathed in Glamour.

Well first and foremost,
why don't you kinda tell us

how you're feelin'?

My chest hurts right now.

-[Rahne] Sure.
-My anxiety...

Take a breath.

[Rahne] Well, as of now,
we don't have any, you know,

definitives.

We did find some good things,

and some things that are
just still up in the air.

I understand.

Now, on our initial deep dive
of social media

right after we left you,

we saw a lot of...

Comments from a, a young lady
named Sapphire.

Who is Sapphire?

[Rahne] You've never heard
of Sapphire?

And these comments were kind of
echoing, from our perspective,

what you were saying about Tee.

Like, he loves women and
the ladies love him.

[Travis] So, we actually got to
meet her.

And we flat out asked her,

"Do you have a baby with Tee?
Are you having a baby with Tee?

Are you guys together?"

And she made it very apparent...

That they're just friends.

[Lisa] Oh, okay.

There's no baby.

-Okay.
-[Travis] They're just friends.

But she seems to think that

he's done with feeling like
a "mama's boy"...

[Travis] And wants to grow up,
essentially.

Well, he's not a mama's boy.

He's my baby, he's my son,
but he's not a mama's boy.

And obviously, we've talked to
several different people,

and they've given their
perspective of things.

[Travis] And so we went and sat
down with David,

and David feels like he's caught
in the middle

and doesn't really know how
to navigate this, as well

because of the family dynamic.

And David seemed to think that
Tee could be...

Looking for another manager.

To paint a clear picture
of it here,

like, David overheard
a conversation that he had

when he was over at his house.

Tee was on the phone talking
with the woman

about management,

and this woman was talking about
what she could offer.

Like, her skillset
and everything like that.

But we didn't know who
this woman was.

And he showed us
this person's profile,

and it happened to be...

ReRe.

Y'all gotta be prankin' me,
I am, I am not...

Yeah.

What's goin' through your head
right now?

Well...

I hope that's not the case.
You know?

'Cause I'm not about to play
with that [bleep].

Sure, and that your reaction
right here is literally the,

-the reaction...
-That we had, yeah.

We were speechless,
we were like,

"This can't be...

This, ReRe was sittin' right
across from Lisa, like..."

Yeah, I don't, I don't, yeah,
I don't backstab people.

I don't do that.

So, you let us know what
you wanna do,

how you wanna handle this.

[Lisa] I think we should
call Tee.

And tell Tee to come here and
explain to me right now

what's going on,
'cause I had enough.

Obviously there's a conversation
that needs to be had,

and we are here to help
facilitate this conversation.

[phone dialing]

Hello?

[Tee] Yeah?

[Lisa] Tee, I have Rahne
and Travis here.

I'mma need you to come
to the shop and...

[Tee] I'm not about to do
none of that.

You told me this was like
straight up for my music,

but someone called me last night

talking about how some lady
was asking questions about me.

I'm like, bro, what they on?

I just want you to know the show
is not for upcoming rappers.

Okay?

I want you to come here
and tell me what's goin' on.

You need to get here,
and that's the end of it.

[music]

[Travis] After learning he's not
on a show about

up-and-coming rappers,

Tee's on his way over,

and he didn't sound too happy
on the phone with Lisa.

Hopefully he's ready to
sit down with her

and finally come clean.

[Lisa] There he is, comin' now.
He's pullin' up.

Okay, all right.
I'm gonna go get him.

-[Rahne] All right.
-And we'll be back.

[Rahne] Okay.

[music]

[Travis] Tee, what's up, man?
Travis.

-How's it goin'?
-[Travis] Nice to meet you, man.

-Nice to meet you.
-[Travis] I...

I know you were expectin' this
show to be about your music.

-[Tee] Yes, sir.
-And that is not the case.

What am I comin' up here for?

Like, what y'all searchin',
all these people callin' me?

Like, that's ain't how
I get down, bro.

Yeah.
I mean, I, I feel you.

But your mom sent a message
to Rahne and I, right,

and asked us for our help.

About what, though?
Like...

You and your mom have
a conversation

that's needed to happen for
a long time,

that just hasn't.

That's your mom right there.

She loves you, she wants
the best for you.

You know, just havin'
an open conversation,

a heart-to-heart.

All right, man,
let's do it, then.

Let's get...
Yeah, let's get to it, man.

[music]

-[Tee] What's goin' on?
-[Rahne] I'm Rahne.

Nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you, too.

Should we grab some chairs and
kinda make a...

Make a spot to sit down?

[music]

[Travis] Right.

Tee, thank you for comin' down.

I know Rahne and
I appreciate it,

and I'm sure Lisa really
appreciates it.

Lisa, I think now is your chance
to ask him.

Well, you know I love you.

And I'm just tryin' to figure
out, like,

what's goin' on with you.

[music]

He thinks everything's funny,
as you can see.

So...

Could be also like a
nervous response, like,

-there's a lot of cameras...
-We got cameras here.

[Rahne] You, you're mom...

And I thought it was for music,
it's just like,

y'all want a secret so bad.

It's like...

[Travis] Just so you know,
Tee...

All Rahne and I want is the best
for you and your family, right?

We want to get your mom
some answers,

and we would love nothing more
than to watch

you guys walk out of here
a happy family.

Okay.

We spoke with your brother,
David.

He said that you confided in
him,

saying that Mom might not be
going as hard as she could

on the managerial front.

And he overheard you speaking
with someone on the phone

about managerial stuff.

And it was someone named ReRe,
whom we've met.

What's so funny?

So you tryin' to say

you not wantin' me to manage you
any more?

[music]

It's not necessarily that.

Okay.

So, I mean, to tie all this
together.

Are you actively looking for
representation?

No, I'm not lookin' for
representation.

I'm not just gon' just go look
for a manager

that I don't know nothin' about.

My mama, she, I trust her.

So then, what are you doing?
Like, what's goin' on with you?

You're not the same,
doin' lil sneaky stuff.

You know, we always got
this bond,

now it's kinda like
you're distant.

It's not funny.

[music]

It's not what y'all really
think.

It is because...

Say what you gotta say!

I'm dating your best friend.

For real.

Say that person name.

Mom...

Who?

Like, don't be shy now.

You already said somethin'.
Like, who?

Oh, hell no.

You always in my business!

You can't keep yo thing in
yo pants!

Like, why?

Lisa, you wanna,
you wanna sit down?

Are you okay?

You need anything?

[Lisa] I'm done.

[Travis] Coming up.

It just happened.

I'm not about to be a grandma
to a grandmother.

I'm not about to do that.

[Travis] Lisa just found out
that her son has been

dating her best friend ReRe.

And she refused to
continue filming

unless she could talk to her
face to face.

So we reached out to ReRe,
who's just arrived.

[ReRe] Okay.

[Travis] Can I give you a hug?

It's okay.

I'm sorry, I'm just pissed.

You don't have to apologize.

I feel like anyone in the world
would be feelin'

what you're feelin' right now.

Yeah, people always hurt me.

And I don't mind
the older woman thing.

But it's just, they knew.
You know?

And it's affectin'
our relationship,

it's just more of the trust.

You know, the trust.

[Travis] Oh, the trust is
broken.

-That's...
-Yeah.

I mean, is there ever a world
in which

the relationship can be
repaired, and...?

I don't know.

I don't know.

You wanna go inside?

-[Lisa] Yeah.
-Okay, come on.

[music]

I just wanna say,
I do apologize for all this.

It's been botherin' me for
a long time,

and I love you.

But I love him too,
and I don't know what to do.

Well see, this is the thing.
Tee's grown.

The problem that I have is that
we do business together.

You could've found anybody's son
to do it with,

but you did it with my son.

You, you get what I'm sayin'?

And I hope you're not pregnant,

because I'm not about to be
a grandma to a grandmother.

-I'm not about to do that.
-[ReRe] Last time I checked,

though, wasn't your husband
younger than you?

It's 5 years difference,
then 20 years difference.

-It's 13, thank you.
-[Lisa] Okay, whatever.

-The point is...
-[ReRe] It's not the point.

Like, I understand where you're
comin' from,

and I understand why you're
upset.

Okay, we [bleep] up business.

But, like, it just happened.

It just happened!

Can I, can I hit timeout
really quick?

You wanna grab a chair
real quick?

[ReRe] Why not?

[Travis] Like, I know that
emotions are, are high

and it's, and it's tense.

But how did all of this go down?

I mean, we talked to you on
the phone yesterday.

Well, you guys asked me if I was
his manager

or if I was tryin' to take him.

You didn't ask me if
I was sleepin' with him.

Okay, so look.

We did a radio interview
on my radio show,

and it was just us.

And we just start textin'
each other,

and we just start kickin' it.

We just had fun together.

I don't know, it just happened.

So then, you never thought about
how it was gonna

-affect me?
-[ReRe] Yeah, of course I did.

Sometimes you can't help it.

Like, you deal with somebody,
it's forbidden, you shouldn't,

and then you get feelings
for him.

And it's like, how do you just
stop doin' it?

-You understand what I'm sayin'?
-Sure.

[Travis] What are you more mad
about?

Are you more mad that Tee is
dating someone who,

who is your friend?

Or are you mad that he's dating
someone that you work with,

and you and Tee also work
together?

Both.

Number one, they could've talked
to me.

They could've came and told me.

But now it's like, how can I

trust either one of them with
somethin'?

They hid this from me.

How long has this been goin' on?

[music]

Three years.

Damn.

[Rahne] Three years...

I'm really tired of
this [bleep].

[Travis] I mean, Tee and ReRe,

you must have had conversations
in private

about what this would do
to Lisa.

[ReRe] That's why it's been
so hard to tell her.

[Tee] Yeah.

We don't want to see her hurt.

-Yeah.
-That was the whole thing.

Nobody cryin' and stuff,
like, that's backwards.

So, how long would y'all have
let this go on for?

Until we probably got married
or somethin'.

I'm not about to do this.
I'm not about to do this.

I'm, I'm not about to do this.

♪ I was locked up in a cage ♪

♪ Couldn't move,
but I felt safe ♪

For all the people in the world,
why my son, why my friend?

You know?

That's the part that hurts.

There won't be no podcast
this Monday, ReRe.

Tee, I don't know.

Maybe you might want her
to manage you,

you know what I mean?

'Cause like, right now,
I'm takin' a break from that.

I need some time for myself.

You got anything to say?

[Tee] I apologize.

And I didn't...

I didn't mean to hurt you
with it.

[ReRe] I apologize, too.

It's just...

I'm, I'm done.

All right, well,
that is our cue.

-Nice to meet you guys.
-Nice to meet you.

[Tee] You too.

Wish it was under
better circumstances.

[Rahne] Lisa...

Thank you very much.

-You, too.
-[Rahne] Good luck.

All right, thank you guys.
Appreciate it.

♪ So you'll never see me 'gain,
I'll tell you why ♪

♪ I'm a butterfly ♪

♪ Ooh, I'm a butterfly ♪

♪ Ooh, butterfly ♪

[music]

I believe that Charles is
payin' for sex.

There's a lot of [bleep]
explaining he has to do.

I guess you don't always know
a cheater.

You are making the choice
to keep us all separate.

Yeah, whatever your
little investigation found,

you didn't look
hard enough at it.