Tonight on "beyond skin walker ranch."
Back in 1965, an object
came in about 4:47 pm over
the greater Pittsburgh area.
There was guys out there in dark suits.
The official explanation was the next day,
it was a bright meteor in the sky.
They went to their death bed
stating that something did
happen here in kecksburg.
I've got dead stick,
which is really concerning
because I can't abort.
It's just freaking me out.
That's manmade earthwork.
It's impossible.
I mean, here we go again, right?
This looks like it's just coming
out of the dad gum ground.
That shouldn't be there.
Whatever that is, it shouldn't be there.
We might have actually
found the real crash site.
I want my mommy.
For years, scientists have
been working to reveal the
secrets of skin walker ranch.
But is it possible that the clues
to unlock the mystery are located
beyond the borders of this
hub of high strangeness?
Wow!
Now, an ex-CIA agent
and a veteran journalist
have been recruited
by the skin walker team
to go on a high-stakes
mission across america.
Look at all this activity that's happening.
That's unbelievable.
That is right over our heads.
That's it. That's it right there.
The goal, uncover evidence that
may finally expose the truth.
How is this happening?
Now it's going to get interesting.
- Look, it's moving!
- Look at that!
Look at that.
Whoa!
This is just the beginning.
Andy, Paul, where are
you about to take us?
So you've all heard of the roswell crash.
Sure.
Who hasn't?
But have you heard
of the kecksburg crash?
Yes, I have.
Kecksburg, Pennsylvania... yes.
Had a relatively well-known,
amongst our community, crash
in 1965, that has really kind of
become an unanswered cold case.
Well, I'll confess.
Look, I've been hoping that
we might engage this story.
You have?
I know a little bit
about it, as does Travis.
And so this is really exciting.
So the story is that
there is some kind of craft,
or space debris, or something
that came down there,
acorn-shaped.
But what it is, or what it
was, or what happened
remains really kind of
shrouded in mystery.
There were a lot of
witnesses at the time.
It got a lot of coverage,
and then just sort of faded
from view under, it
seems like, sort of a cloak
of secrecy and some cover up.
We have an opportunity
now to go in kecksburg
and see if we can't bring some
of the most modern technology
that we have available to us to try
to answer the unanswered
questions about what happened
in this location.
This sounds pretty ambitious.
We don't know what this thing
is or how it worked or whatever,
- right?
- Right.
Was it really a ufo?
Was it a downed experimental
craft that was being worked on?
Who knows what it could have been?
One asset that we feel
like we've got going in here
is a guy named Stan Gordon, a guy who
was local to the area, who
was really captivated by this
as a young man, and
ever since has really
been sort of a clearinghouse
of stories related to kecksburg
and everything else.
He sounds like a real
treasure trove of information
- on this particular...
- For sure.
Area.
And the story may be
bigger than kecksburg itself.
And here's where we think
it gets really interesting.
Kecksburg itself is located in an area
called the Chestnut Ridge.
And Chestnut Ridge is
a 100-mile long subrange
of the appalachians, where it turns
out there are reports of all
kinds of high strangeness.
We're also going to see another site
that's called liver more.
And liver more is 45-minute drive, maybe
And the backstory of liver more,
it's a historical... it's sort of
a pre-colonial settlement that
was flooded and effectively destroyed.
The story goes that there are reports
of ufos, of strange
lights, of strange noises,
of cryptids that seem to haunt the area.
The parallels between
skin walker ranch and the larger
Chestnut Ridge centered
around kecksburg
are just too many to ignore.
I think we have some
ambitious plans for this.
Yeah.
Well, I feel like this is a topic where
and an area where certainly
an ambitious effort is warranted.
Yeah. Can't wait to see what you find.
Absolutely.
Right on.
We're excited to get out there.
Good luck, guys.
To kick off their investigation
at Chestnut Ridge,
Andy and Paul meet with Stan
Gordon near the supposed crash
site in kecksburg to learn
more about the alleged ufo
incident that occurred in 1965.
Thanks for having us.
Well, here we are in the
shadow of the ufo itself.
Yeah, that's a replica
of what witnesses said they
saw that night back in 1965.
I mean, this is the origin story
of this whole region, right?
I mean, this is where it all began.
This was the case that
people remember and talk
about throughout this
area in Pennsylvania
- and even around the country.
- Right.
Can you tell me what happened?
An object came in about 4:47 pm over
the greater Pittsburgh area.
The police departments,
the radio and TV stations,
newspaper offices were
jammed with phone calls
from people seeing
this brilliant, fiery object.
The witnesses who saw
this thing that afternoon
in this general area said
it was moving very slowly,
almost like it was controlled.
And the people saw it go
down said it did not come
down at a high rate of speed.
It came down almost like it
was making a controlled landing.
And who issued this official report?
Was it local police?
Was it state police?
Who was the last word on this?
And it wasn't until
a very large public
display at the local mall,
and a man happened
to walk by with his family.
And they said, I was on the search
team that found the object.
And what they found was not an aircraft.
And he said it was a large
metallic acorn-shaped object
semi-buried in the ground.
Although Stan and others have applied
for government records
surrounding what actually landed
and was removed from
kecksburg, nothing substantial
has ever been released.
I think we just start with the impact site.
Can you take us to that location?
I can take you down to the wooded area
where the object fell.
And, there's two other fellows
that I know from the local area
who were witnesses that night
to different aspects of it.
And they can meet us
down there in the woods.
Absolutely.
That sounds fantastic.
With Stan in tow, Andy and Paul
now make the short drive
to the outskirts of town
to the area suspected to be the ufo crash
site, although the exact
location of the landing
remains a mystery.
Hey, good morning, gentlemen.
Good morning.
They're met by eyewitnesses
bill Weaver and Ron
struble to learn what the
two men saw on the evening
of December 9, 1965.
Now, if I'm understanding
correctly, then your research
and the witnesses that you've
spoken to place the objects
basically in this wash.
Is that correct?
Correct.
And then the experience
that you gentlemen had
confirms that this is
the right patch of woods,
but neither of you know
firsthand where it landed?
I was not down here, no.
I came after it landed.
It was a nice night.
I had the top down.
I was out for a ride.
I seen there were some people
standing alongside the road
there, and I stopped.
They pointed back this way.
The police and the military,
they were all over the place.
And there was guys
out there in dark suits.
They were the ones that
seemed to be in charge.
There was a large truck.
And out of that truck came a large box.
And they carried it down
in the direction of where
this thing had come down.
So you were up on the
road watching all this?
Yes.
You were not able to get down here?
I was not down here, no.
While we were standing there
watching what was going on,
the state police and the
military come up to us
and they told us, if you don't move,
we're going to confiscate your car.
And I figured I'd better move.
So I did.
Ron, what do you recall from that night?
Well, we looked out our
bedroom window in greensburg,
and we'd seen the
orange streak in the sky.
Within 20 minutes, we were out here.
And the firemen was already
up here with the, road control
to make sure that
nobody got down in here.
And I could see the
military down in this hole.
I mean, that's a very fast response.
Right?
I mean, is there a military base nearby?
I'm suspicious that this is national guard.
They'd be the first ones called in.
And then when I hear
you talk about men in suits,
the first thing that comes to my mind
is some sort of
administrative official, FBI.
That would have come
from further, though.
That would have come
from possibly Pittsburgh.
How did such a team
converge on this location
- in such a short period of time?
- Yes.
Certain elements of this
story just aren't adding up.
If it really was some sort
of catastrophic disaster
like an airplane crash or a meteor strike,
it would take a long time for those people
to get to the location.
I mean, instead, what this sounds
like is there was some
sort of early warning system.
Somebody was watching
this long before it ever
entered the atmosphere, and they were
able to project approximately
where it would land.
That would give them
enough of a head start
to get military and government in motion
to intercept the location
and keep the public out.
In the beginning, I was kind of a
I wasn't a believer.
But then later in life, I
joined the fire service.
And, during that period up until now,
I got to know the guys really well.
And, they told me that they
were here and some of them
drove the trucks, and they
were here during the incident.
They went to their death
bed stating that something
did happen here in kecksburg.
Yeah, I feel like we have an opportunity
to do a survey of the area... yeah.
With some of our equipment
and see if we can't hone
in data-wise on something that
might be anomalous in the area.
Andy and Paul are in
kecksburg, Pennsylvania,
with investigators Stan Gordon
and two surviving eyewitnesses
at the site of a possible
ufo crash in 1965,
that official reports
said was a meteor strike.
They're now going to look for any
evidence that could shed
light on this 60-year-old mystery.
We're just going to see if
there's any sort of energy
signature or anything
else we can find out
that might point more
specifically to where this thing
might have come down.
Andy and Paul will
be using their spectrum
analyzer and radiation meter to
survey the alleged landing site.
They're looking for any
abnormalities on the radio
spectrum, specifically
in the privileged 1.4 to 1.8
gigahertz frequencies,
reserved for earth-to-space and
space-to-earth transmissions.
All right, are you seeing
anything on the broad spectrum?
I'll tell you, it's very flat.
- Tiny little peaks.
- Wow.
That's a quiet spectrum for sure.
Yeah.
They're also testing for radiation levels
above 20 microgram, which is double
the average level in the us.
That could indicate some
residual effects of the crash.
So far, radiation is also showing
very normal readings here.
Yeah, you can hear,
Andy, nothing on the geiger.
It's all very consistent
down here as well, man.
Yep.
Anything above background?
No.
You know, I wonder, it
feels like we need to do
some kind of broader survey.
There might be some evidence
here that's in the landscape.
We might be able to identify
the exact location where this acorn
landed, or potentially
identify a location that
explains why it landed here.
Either it was here before
and that's why it arrived,
or something that was
left behind after the impact.
Yeah, it'd be nice for us to
know what exactly did happen.
We'll see if we can't move the dial
and get some answers
to those questions.
Pete, I'm happy to have you here, man.
We have got a mystery for you, for sure.
Andy and Paul have
called in skin walker veteran
Pete Kelsey with his
expertise and technology
to conduct a thorough
scan of the environment
surrounding the possible ufo landing
in kecksburg, Pennsylvania.
All I know is some kind
of an impact site, right?
Right.
From what we understand
through third-hand information,
the impact site might actually be in this
wash area right behind us.
It sounds like this thing
came down in this area,
right in here.
We're not exactly sure where.
That's what we're hoping
you can help us figure out.
Well, as you guys
know, typically, the tools
that I bring have to do
with physical evidence
right on the ground.
I brought all the usual suspects,
lidar and the slam scanner.
If one of you guys want to scan, I
can be watching the data
coming in on the tablet in real time.
I'm happy to stomp around, sure.
Handheld lidar, also
known as a slam scanner,
uses laser light to map out an area.
It measures the time it takes
for the laser to bounce back
after hitting an object and uses that
collected data to create a detailed
I just want to make sure we
see data and then you're off.
I'm good to go.
Here we go.
Lidar technology also has the ability
to strip away layers of vegetation
to visualize the topography of a site,
which can reveal areas not easily
detected by the naked eye.
We know we're looking for something
that happened in the past.
We have these dense woods.
And we need a piece of
tech that allows us to scrape
away the layers of the currents in order
to get backwards in time.
And the slam scanner
is exactly the kind of tool
to make that happen.
So that's top down.
We've got a storm coming in.
We do not have a lot of time.
What do you think?
Come back around?
Yeah, I would do a loop.
Right where you are, I would do a loop.
With high winds and
an approaching storm,
the team moves
quickly to finish scanning
the alleged landing site.
Guys, are we good?
Good.
Well done, sir.
Their next plan of attack
is to survey the area with drone lidar.
However, with snow
starting to fall and high winds,
Pete is unable to safely fly the drone,
so they'll regroup the next day
to continue their investigation.
The next morning, there is
snowfall and persisting winds.
But the team is determined to conduct
their drone lidar survey of
the greater landing site area.
As if this flight didn't make me
nervous enough, just
because of the weather.
Got it.
This wind, I mean, there's
a gust that's probably 25.
But we got to try.
We're here.
Maybe a little reckless, but curious.
All right.
We need the data, so if you can get it up,
Pete, that'd be greatly appreciated.
Let's go.
Pete Kelsey will use
drone lidar technology
to map the alleged ufo crash
site with thousands of lasers
to create a topographical
image of the area
and potentially uncover
hidden information about exactly
where the ufo may have landed.
Take off.
The drone's flight path is
pre-programmed in a grid
pattern to cover the surrounding
area near the purported crash.
It's really deceptive.
If it's blowing 30 down here, it's
probably blowing 45 up there.
All hot, straight and normal so far.
Clear, blue sky.
We've had three good
passes already, Paul.
Yeah, so far, so good.
Are you kidding me?
Ok.
What's going on, Pete?
Is it pausing?
Son of a.
Yeah, so I've got dead stick.
It's not responding?
Yeah, dead stick.
I've got no control of it.
But fortunately, it's hovering.
The drone has stopped right
as it was about to survey the
ravine, which is the supposed
location of the ufo landing.
I can't do anything.
Wait, so you can't even call it back?
No, I'm stuck, at the moment.
Son of a.
It's not responding?
Yeah, dead stick.
I've got no control.
Andy and Paul are with
skin walker veteran Pete Kelsey,
who's using his drone lidar to
help them potentially uncover
hidden information about
exactly where the kecksburg
ufo may have landed in 1965.
I - can't do anything.
Wait, so you can't even call it back?
No, I'm stuck.
However, Pete lost all
control of his drone right
when it flew over the
suspected crash area.
Stranger still, all the diagnostics,
avionics, batteries, everything
is ok, but it's unresponsive.
Unresponsive to you?
Yeah, which is really concerning
because I can't abort.
And it's also ignoring its
pre-programmed route.
Yeah, that's right.
It just froze.
Ok.
What's it doing?
It's responding.
Forgive me, guys.
I'm going to... I've got to abort.
Are you flying it home
manually right now?
Yeah, I've got out of the mission
because I don't trust it.
Have you seen that kind of phenomenon
- happen with your drone before?
- No.
What about on skin walker ranch?
Never.
In order to preserve whatever
data has been obtained,
as well as for the safety of
the drone and those around it,
the flight has been cut short.
Because it's been acting weird,
let's be extra diligent
on the landing here.
Ok.
Because if it goes rogue,
that's pretty dangerous.
What would explain that, Pete?
What could have happened there?
I wish I knew, man.
I mean, that... sorry,
I'm just a little bit rattled
because that's my livelihood.
Yeah.
And it just sort of did what it wanted to
rather than what I was telling it to.
The good news is it's been
scanning the whole time.
So the scanner ran even
though it was just sitting out there,
- so we should have data.
- Ok.
At least partial data.
- Yeah.
- Ok.
Data that we can
compare against this valley
and against the actual crash site.
Well, I would love to get eyes on the data
that you were able to
collect, see if that can't
point us in the next direction.
- I'm going to get busy on that.
- Ok.
Thanks, Pete.
While Pete processes the
data from both lidar surveys
of the kecksburg crash
site, Andy and Paul
will now look into another hot spot
Chestnut Ridge, the abandoned
town of liver more, to
investigate an even older
mystery, which might shed
light on whether the kecksburg
crash was caused by some
greater anomaly in the region.
They're here to meet Ron
Murphy, a historian and investigator
of the liver more phenomena.
All right, let's go check it out.
Let's check it out.
This is liver more.
It used to be a fairly
big town at one time,
if you can believe it.
This is right after the
French and Indian w*r, ok?
So this is kind of the
people that were living
out in the middle of nowhere.
It's the frontier.
This was definitely the frontier.
There's a lot of things
associated with, like, lights
and things that are related
to elemental type of beings
that are seen around here.
One of the first times I've ever
encountered one of these earth
lights was actually down here.
You have personally?
I have personally, yes.
"Earth lights" are the local term
for ground level orb sightings, frequently
encountered in the area.
It was about 10 o'clock at night.
My buddy and I, we were
coming to this very bridge.
And we went out to
the center of the bridge
until we turned from the
bridge and looked back here.
And right at the opening,
we see a light emanate.
It stayed on for maybe a second or two
and then it just faded out.
Back in the late 1700s, there was said
to be a witch that lived here, and then
things started going wrong.
Crops were failing, right, or
babies are born deceased.
So something was going on.
You have to blame the witch, right?
That's what everybody does.
They grab her, put her onto
a pole, and they burn her.
And as the flames lap up
around her, she screams out,
I'm going to set a flood 100
years from this day to quench
these flames about me.
And that was may 31, 1789.
May 31, 1889, the johns town
flood comes through here
and destroys the town.
I want to point out,
there's multiple floods that
came through to the point
that the army corps of engineers
decided, we are going to put a dam in
and these places that
lie on the outlying areas
are just going to be flooded out.
So the town of liver more
was destroyed by the flood
and then permanently submerged
- once the flood control project?
- Yes, sir.
Right here.
There's a lot below the surface.
Yeah, it's wild, man.
Now that I'm standing
here and hearing the stories,
hearing about the
curses, hearing about just
spooky and creepy history of
this place, not to mention Ron's
reaction to his own
personal experiences here,
I really can't help but wonder
if I'm standing on a skin walker
ranch that's buried underwater.
I'm curious about where
you had this encounter.
Well, right here is where it was.
- Started right here?
- Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
How do you describe the earth light?
Just emanated, right?
It just turned on.
And it just kind of expanded
and flickered off into nothing.
Often in conjunction with
these lights that we see,
preceding the lights appearing
is the sound of wind chimes.
It's tonal.
So it's usually about three tone.
I don't play music or anything like that.
One is almost like an establishing tone.
The other one is a bit higher to the ear.
And the other one is just a little bit
lower than the establishing
tone, if that makes any sense.
- So it precedes the phenomenon?
- It precedes the phenomenon.
Yes, sir.
And you've heard that?
I have. No, I've heard it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Heard it, witnessed it, and
everything like that, yes.
- On more than one occasion?
- On more than one occasion.
Yes, sir. Yeah.
And there's nothing out here.
What would make any
kind of sound out here,
especially a metallic
sound like a wind chime?
I wonder if we can try to
recreate something for him
and see if we, you know, can hit on it.
I agree.
All right, let's go.
Ron, this is our setup.
- What do you think?
- It's impressive.
I don't know what
any of this stuff means,
but it's awesome-looking. Yeah.
Andy and Paul are on a
bridge above the flooded town
of liver more with local
historian and investigator
Ron Murphy, who has
witnessed orb phenomena referred
to as earth lights, that
have been preceded
by a sequence of sounds.
So Andy and I have worked
with tones many times,
usually using them to try to trigger
something in the environment.
My question is, is this going
to have some kind of new effect
on this environment?
Was that a trigger that Ron experienced?
Was it sort of a harbinger of that event?
I mean, we just have no idea
how this is going to play out.
So our ufodap's over here, stacked
up one on top of the other.
It is actually an extra
set of eyes in the sky.
And those are the green
dots that you see out
- there flashing on the bridge.
- Nice.
We also have a directional antenna.
Any radio signals, any frequencies
that we see that may be
coming anywhere in the area,
we can actually hone in and
zoom in on it with that antenna.
Meanwhile, we have our
moonraker antenna here,
which is connected to a spectrum
analyzer, which is picking up
radio signals from all around.
This gives us the ability to
see if we're catching anything
in the big net, and then,
as Andy said, home in on it,
pinpoint maybe what
direction it's coming from
and figure out what the source is.
Very impressive.
I'm kind of excited to start seeing
if we can't poke around a bit.
Yeah, let's, play some tones, I think.
Earlier this season, the team
played back an audio
tone, replicating the sound
- of the infamous taos hum...
- Look at this. - Whoa.
And seemed to elicit a response
on their spectrum analyzer
in the privileged zone.
Look at how it's changing.
Wow.
Now, using their tone generator,
Andy and Paul will mimic the
three-tone sound Ron reported
hearing before seeing an orb to see
if they can trigger some sort of
response from the environment.
And, Ron, you mentioned
that you heard a series of tones,
right?
Yeah.
And the tones preceded
preceded the arrival of the orbs.
I'm going to manually
go through the tones.
Ok.
I want you to stop me when you feel
like we're in the right region.
All right.
And I'm calling on you
to remember a sound, which
is often times difficult, but
- ok.
- All right, here we go.
Ok.
Right about there.
Right about there.
That's very close to the
initial ding that we heard
and that what sounded
like the wind chimes.
That right there is about...
and then it went higher,
and then it went lower
than that initial 210.
Any way to play them in consecutively?
Let's give it a whirl.
Meanwhile, they will
monitor the spectrum analyzer
for any spikes in the privileged 1.4 to 1.8
gigahertz radio frequency zone reserved
for earth-to-space and
space-to-earth transmissions.
All right.
But this is our baseline right now.
Steady.
Quiet.
Pretty close to that?
Pretty close to it.
Pretty close.
Holy smokes!
- Look at that.
- Wow.
Look at how strong.
This activity that's
happening here, just under 1.6.
Andy will now listen in on
the 1.57 gigahertz signal
they've seemingly triggered to see what
communication is occurring.
These sound like wind chimes, man.
Kind of do.
It sounds very tonal.
It's just freaking me out.
The bass tone, the
higher tone, the lower tone,
that's exactly what I heard.
Exactly what I heard.
There's so many layers of strangeness.
The first we heard of these three tones
was that Ron heard them
preceding this other series
of events, these lights.
So we tried to match those
tones on the tone generator.
We think we got pretty close.
Ron said, yeah, that sounds like it.
Now we're getting some strange
signals and radio frequency
that shouldn't be there.
They sound like the tones, too.
Is one triggering the other?
Is there some kind of relationship
here that we just don't understand?
This is really getting interesting.
So you know what I'd love to do,
Paul, is I'd love to do a
sweep of 360 degrees... yup.
In our 1.6 gigahertz range.
Ok.
After finding strange radio frequencies
in the privileged zone, the
team will now use their log
periodic antenna in an attempt to zero
in on the source of the
signal they just triggered
using the tone generator.
By rotating the log periodic
antenna 360 degrees,
it can isolate and hone
in on the exact direction
a radio signal is coming from.
So you can see that
there's some activity here
at about 1.6.
If we see a spike, when
he starts to move this,
then that's interesting.
All right.
All right, here we go.
I'm going to go clockwise.
Stop, Paul. Stop, Paul.
Stop.
Go back.
And cross through that same zone again.
- There it is.
- That's it.
Wow. Yeah.
See it all come to life?
I do, I do.
You can see all this
activity come to life over here
as Paul crosses through this zone.
So two massive questions
come to mind for me right now.
What is causing radio
energy in this direction
right.
Question number one?
Question number two,
why is it transmitting
energy at 1.6 gigahertz?
Right.
This is a block of
frequency that's reserved.
It's all earth-to-space,
space-to-earth communications.
Ok.
This is most definitely
the heart of the energy.
What's in this direction, Ron?
- No way.
- Yeah.
Kecksburg is this direction.
Absolutely.
Yes, yes, yes.
That is wild, man.
This mystery signal is
coming from the direction
of the mystery event in 1965.
So we've got a signal
coming from kecksburg
that seems to literally end at this bridge.
I mean, I thought kecksburg
was interesting, right?
But now that we've
been here as well, I mean,
there is something happening
here in Chestnut Ridge.
Andy and Paul return to kecksburg
to learn Pete Kelsey's
hand held and drone
lidar results from the
possible ufo crash site.
Pete, I'm really excited
to see these results.
I mean, it's taken quite a
bit of work and adventure
to get to this point.
Yeah, I mean, we've really
been fighting the elements
every step of the way here.
They're joined by Chestnut
Ridge investigator Stan
Gordon and retired kecksburg fire chief
and ufo eyewitness Ron struble.
Well, you guys saw what
happened with the drone lidar.
Absolutely.
Yeah, so I've got dead stick.
It's not responding?
I've got no control.
I can't do anything.
Wait, so you can't even call it back?
No, I'm stuck.
This gives you a good
look at the extent of the data
that I was able to capture
from the air before it stopped.
This is where it stopped,
this farthest point away.
Which is also in the
same vicinity as where
you reported the actual
craft itself crashing
or landing in that valley.
The failure happened before it
even got over the ravine.
It's still just making its way
across that big, open field,
getting to the ravine, and then
something pulled that drone off course.
Something confused that drone before it
could even get to the target
spot where we were looking.
Maybe, yeah.
Who knows?
We also did a ground-based lidar,
so we should have more
data from the ravine itself that
we collected on the ground.
So that looks like this.
Look at this right here.
I cut my teeth in civil
engineering and land surveying.
That's manmade earthwork.
Because it's level against
this otherwise very steep slope.
Straight lines, right
angles, those kind of things
do not occur in nature, right?
And then when you rotate
the view, like I've done here,
and you see it has a level bottom?
I mean, this is right
where we were walking.
Right where you pointed us toward
is this evidence, 60
years later, of that impact.
We looked at it with our own eyes.
There's no level ground down there.
So that's a remnant of
something that's no longer visible.
It was something I was going to ask.
Was there heavy equipment in here
that would have had to been
whatever it was, was it carted out?
Yes?
There were two military
flatbed tractor trailers
on the scene that night.
What I understand is this, you could
not take that tractor trailer
right down to the impact site.
They had to winch it over.
A crane would need a level spot.
Yes.
When you compare Pete's lidar data
about what he is seeing in this ravine,
and you contrast it with
what Stan has reported,
his research has shown about
what happened here in kecksburg,
you really start to see
corroborating evidence that
speaks to the fact that there really
may have been something
that happened at a specific point
in this ravine.
This is really just a few
feet away from where
Paul and I took baselines.
This is worth going
back and researching,
whether or not there is actually
a difference between the rest
of the ravine and this specific
point that Pete has identified.
How does this make you guys feel?
It gives us a little bit of hope
that maybe someday we'll know
what happened in kecksburg.
There were so many people involved.
And so many people Ron knew,
people I talked to, many of them
went to their grave not knowing the truth.
They all stuck by their story.
Many of them took a lot of ridicule.
And, they deserved to know the truth.
Armed with new data
detailing a potential manmade
feature only 20 feet away
from where the team originally
investigated the rumored
location of the 1965 ufo
landing, Andy, Paul, and Pete decide
to go back to replicate their
experiments in the exact spot.
This is it right here.
Up there, yeah.
You see how it feels like a
pad and sort of leveled out?
And then it sort of
ends abruptly right there.
On their initial visit
to the alleged location
of the ufo crash, less than 20 feet away,
there was zero activity
on the radio spectrum.
I'll tell you, it's very flat.
Tiny little peaks.
Wow. It's a quiet spectrum for sure.
Yeah.
Now they'll check the
radio spectrum, at the newly
discovered area of interest.
I'll pop the rf scanner.
There's a peak at 1.638.
Are they significant peaks?
Yeah, look at that.
Yeah.
That's not the same
spectrum that we saw when
we were here the first time.
Right.
So, yeah, we've moved, what, 20 feet.
Totally different spectrum.
That's strange.
The one difference from here to there
is this is what it was
indicated on the lidar
as something unusual that
maybe suggests that this
is the actual impact site.
But that would not explain
how it could have such
a different radio signature
with nothing in between here and there.
Unless it's hyper-localized,
unless it exists here
and doesn't exist over there, we could
take the spectrum analyzer right over
- there and find out right now.
- Yeah, that
I mean, how could that be
how could the signal
differ across... it shouldn't.
Such a short distance?
We can test it.
We can take it right over
there and see if that same signal
is present right now.
Ok.
Let's just walk it up.
Look.
It actually did completely change.
Wow!
Pete, look at this.
It actually did completely change.
It's totally different.
It's dead.
It's a completely... completely flat.
Different signal.
Look at that.
We've gone, what, 20 feet?
That's unbelievable.
That's, like, not within
the realm of possible, right?
No, no.
That makes... i'm.
I'm stunned.
I want my mommy.
This doesn't make any sense.
How is there a radio signal in one place
that doesn't exist just a few feet away?
That's not how radio energy works.
That's not how frequencies work.
The only reason that
we were brought here
was because of Pete's lidar data.
And now that we're here, we're
getting even more evidence that
suggests that there really was something
strange that happened on this spot,
in this ravine in kecksburg.
We might have actually
found the real crash site.
That might explain why we
have so many localized anomalous
readings right here that we don't see
anywhere else in this valley.
Thanks, Pete, for
pointing that out in the lidar.
We would have never
found this otherwise.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is a great find.
Amazing.
Yeah, we've got to share
this with Travis and Erik.
Absolutely.
Well, guys, welcome back to the ranch.
I want to hear about your
findings at Chestnut Ridge.
I think it exceeded our expectations.
Mhm.
But it left so many more
questions than answers.
If you recall, we went out there first
to dig into what happened in
kecksburg in 1965, the reported
landing or crashing of some
sort of acorn-shaped object
from the sky.
So we called in Pete Kelsey.
And Pete was able to run aerial lidar
and walk a ground-based
slam scanner along with us
so that we could really
saturate the area with data.
And then when we did
get Pete's results... yeah.
They were really quite telling.
So Pete's actually waiting
online to give us a walkthrough
of what he discovered.
Pete, you got me, man?
Hey, Andy. How are you?
Hey, good to see you, sir.
Hey, Pete.
Hey, everybody's there.
Do you have the lidar results
from the slam scanner nearby?
Yeah.
So this is the slam scanner data.
If I rotate past horizontal,
this right here, I mean,
right away was like, ok, that's unusual.
I mean, literally a rectangle
of graded level ground.
Ok, yeah, I see.
Why is it level?
It just suggests made earthworks.
Yeah.
But, this looks like there's
some sort of excavation
that took place in that spot.
And for there to have been so many
witnesses that led you to that spot,
it really is very, suspect.
Yeah.
One other thing I'd like to show you.
So this has me shaking
my head, my friends, again,
because we've got data underground.
See this?
There it is.
That's clearly below ground right there.
How far underground is that?
At 100 feet.
It's impossible.
I mean, here we go again, right?
Lasers can't see through solid ground.
Now, see, that tells us
that the computer system in the lidar
believes that those particular points
took longer to get back to
the receiver than it actually did.
Yeah, that data identifies
a very unique point in space
and time during the
scan that is exceptional to,
you know, versus everything else.
You know, where have
we seen this before?
We've seen it at the highway
Triangle.
We've seen it at skin walker ranch.
Mhm.
Yeah, that's right.
Maybe we're on to
something that nobody's
ever really figured out before.
To my knowledge, this is probably
the first time anybody's ever
done a lidar measurement there.
Any place that I get
lidar returns underground,
that's interesting.
Thanks, Pete.
Thank you, guys.
It made us ask ourselves the question
in that specific depression, that site
that Pete's lidar found, what else
could we measure in that site?
So we went back down there and
we took an rf spectrum analyzer.
We are literally standing
in the indented site
that Pete identified in his data.
There was a peak at 1.638.
- Look at that.
- Yeah.
That's not the same
spectrum that we saw when
- we were here the first time.
- Right.
Totally different spectrum.
That's strange.
And this is the spectrum
analyzer, readings that we're
getting, which are completely
different than the baseline
readings we got in the ravine earlier
when we first arrived to kecksburg.
- Tiny little peaks.
- Wow.
- It's a quiet spectrum for sure.
- Yeah.
Where was the ravine
in relation to this point?
We're going to show you here.
We can test it.
We can take it right over
there and see if that same signal
is present right now.
Ok.
Let's just walk it up.
Pete's like... look at him.
Pete's expression says it all.
I can see the confusion
through his shades.
Yes.
He's like, what?
Because we're walking,
what... you can see... 20 feet?
Yeah.
Ok.
Look at that.
It actually did completely change.
Wow!
Pete, look at this.
It actually did completely change.
It's totally different.
It's dead.
See, that right there is fantastic data.
Look at that.
We've gone, what, 20 feet?
That's unbelievable.
So I'd like to stop you
here and ask a question.
What I just watched
was contiguous footage?
Mhm. Yup.
There was no cut.
There was no editorial process there.
That is correct.
Physically walked, in my hand, 20 feet.
That's it.
You dropped, 55 db in 20 feet.
I mean, you've got
the numbers right here.
Orders of magnitude.
Many orders of magnitude change.
And here's another piece that
should be the opposite of this.
You guys were down in a hole.
- Right.
- Right?
In a ravine.
And you walked uphill.
The signal should have got
stronger as you walked uphill
because there's less terrain
blocking from wherever it could
be coming from, unless
it's coming from down there
in that hole.
What is this signal doing there?
That doesn't add up.
That... that is just too much.
Here on the ranch when we get it,
we usually see some
kind of phenomena occur.
We see something we
expect, ok, somehow or other,
the source is with whatever
this is, or this is causing it.
It's a by-product or something.
This looks like it's just coming
out of the dad gum ground.
Right.
Or it's a beam coming from somewhere
else hitting the ground.
So this is... that shouldn't be there.
Anyway, whatever that
is, it shouldn't be there.
Either we've got something active,
something energizing
that space in the rf today,
and for who knows how long, or
we've got some kind of residual
from the event.
So what you have shown
is there is something very
odd about that particular point
in kecksburg.
You're talking about getting
concrete evidence of something...
what did you say, 60 years?
Did a little beacon fall off of
whatever that acorn-shaped
thing was and it's
still... a 60-year battery.
With a 60-year... yeah, right?
I'm thinking right now of
all sorts of different things
that we need to go back and do.
This place, to me, is absolutely
fascinating and bizarre.
I mean, I would love to say that we're
scratching the surface.
I feel like we're just
tapping on the surface.
Yeah, yeah.
The more and more you
guys do, the more and more
we realize we don't know.
That's exactly what I was feeling.
Good work, guys.
I didn't think you were
going to come back
with this, that's for sure.
Yeah.
Neither did we.
Yeah, can't wait to see
what you guys do next.
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