03x02 - The Ranch Strikes Back

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Tonight, on beyond skin walker ranch.

The things that were going on there

were just so frightening
and almost unbelievable.

Who is in the house?

I want to know who is in the house.

Whoa, you see this? Yep.

Yeah, that's angry.

That does look angry.

Are you ok?

I'm in pain.

It feels like knives, 10,000 knives

in the top of my shoulders.

For years, scientists have

been working to reveal the
secrets of skin walker ranch.

But is it possible that the clues

to unlock the mystery are located

beyond the borders of this
hub of high strangeness?

Wow.

Now, an ex-CIA agent
and a veteran journalist

have been recruited
by the skin walker team

to go on a high-stakes
mission across america.

Look at all this activity that's happening.

That's unbelievable.

That is right over our heads.

That's it. That's it right there.

The goal... uncover evidence that

may finally expose the truth.

How is this happening?

Now, it's going to get interesting.

Look, it's moving!

Look at that! Look at that!

Whoa!

This is just the beginning.

Paul and Andy, rocky mountain ranch,

we're headed back again.

Tell us the plan.

Rocky mountain ranch, this location,

which looks like really
an idyllic ranch setting,

has delivered over and
over, these incredibly strange

phenomenon.

And the story begins with, you know,

a young girl who
spent a lot of time at this

place in the early 1970s.

Right, a child, Katie

Paige, who has gone on to
become a respected ufo researcher.

And what her relationship
is with this ranch

seems to be something that
we have been able to actually

literally measure in the past.

During their first investigation,

Katie shared a story of one of
her most traumatizing memories

on the ranch as a child.

All the lights in the house went out.

And at that moment, it was like
from every orifice of the house,

this electronic sounding
voice comes out of the house.

And it basically stated, you know,

we have allowed you to remain.

Your friends will be instructed
to remain silent concerning us.

That must have been terrifying.

It was terrifying.

Later, the team did an experiment

to see if Katie could
trigger the house to speak

to her again using a ham radio.

We are back and we want to talk to you.

Whoa.

Whoa.

The house is absolutely
reacting to Katie's voice.

After analyzing the
audio from the experiment,

Travis and Erik also
theorized that the house

was responding to Katie.

It's like the ranch recognizes her.

You know, we've seen things
like that here on skin walker.

There's a long history here
of reported sightings that have

to do with blacked-out
helicopters, a military

presence, possible spacecraft.

There have been orb sightings.

There have been cryptid sightings.

That's a heck of a list.

There are so many parallels
between these two locations,

between rocky mountain
ranch and skin walker ranch.

In both cases, you've
got unsuspecting families

whose lives are totally
upended by these phenomenon.

And we're always trying to think

of how do we go and
unlock the secrets that are

there at rocky mountain ranch.

And we think we might have
a strategy that's unique here.

We are now in touch
with Katie's older sister.

Her name is kris.

Much like Katie, on our first time around,

she's never been back.

She says that she and
Katie, and Katie confirms this,

do not really talk about
this part of their childhood.

So what we may have
is sort of a new data set.

A second witness that
has not been corrupted

by years of conversation
between the two of them

about their experience.

This is going to be like opening

a time capsule for these two.

We know what this ranch
does with Katie present.

But what will this ranch
do, how will this ranch react

if we bring a new experiencer?

We're going to focus on communication.

We're going to focus on radio signals.

We're going to focus on things that

may be links between the experiencers

and the ranch itself.

Yeah, we want to double down and push

the limit as much as we can and really

try to poke this hornet's nest.

We have a metaphor for what
we think could be going on,

at least here at the ranch, and it's

kind of like how your phone,
when you get into different cars

and you pair it to that
car, you can be away

from that car for a long time.

And when you come back, your phone

will remember it and
pair to it because you've

hands hook with it before.

We've had people that we brought
that hadn't been on the ranch

in 20, 15 years, and as soon
as they got back, you know,

things started happening.

It's like the ranch
remembered the person.

It is a unique observational opportunity.

It'll be really interesting.

- Can't wait to see it.
- Ok.

Appreciate it, man.

Thanks, guys. Yeah.

All right.

Due to the sensitive
nature of this investigation,

the current owners of
rocky mountain ranch

have asked for their names and
location to be kept anonymous.

I'm really excited to be
going back to this ranch.

I mean, of all the places that we've been,

every time we come back
to the rocky mountain ranch,

something new happens.

Yeah, I mean, coming
back really for the third time

now, we've got a deep data set.

Right, now, the last time we were here,

we really were able
to focus in on some sort

of overhead anomaly
happening at the landing site

in front of the ranch house.

During their last visit to the ranch,

Andy and Paul investigated an
intense hotspot on the property

known as the landing site.

This is the area that Katie described

as a strange, barren circle
where she and her sister

played on the ranch
when they were young.

There was this very large, dry-dirt,

snow less circle, as if something
was sitting here or something.

It's also the same spot where the team

had multiple rockets crash.

My goodness.

And it's theorized that there

may be a portal overhead.

Whether it's literally a portal

opening up or even if it's just some sort

of electromagnetic phenomena
that at least gives you

the impression of that, all the
recipe is there for something

like this to happen.

There's really something
interesting about that location.

I'm so curious to see what
we learn from kris, from the new

from our new experiencer and what

we can really try to understand
about these aerial phenomenon.

I mean, it's just bizarre.

Now the current ranch owners, Greg

and his daughter Nicole, have told me

that they've actually had
some new experiences since

the last time we've been here. Right.

So I'll meet with Greg and Nicole

and understand what they've
been doing at the ranch.

And in the meantime, you
can head out to meet kris.

Perfect.

Yeah, we've got a lot of ground to cover.

I think the divide-and-conquer
strategy is the way to go.

Talk to you soon.

Morning.

Nice to see you again.

We got some new faces here.

Yes. This is my sister, Julie.

- Nice to meet you.
- Julie, it's nice to meet you.

- You know Nicole.
- Hey, nice to see you.

Nicole, good to see you again.

Well, I understand there's
been some new experiences,

some new stories.

You ok, buddy?

He's trying to tell his side.

I understand. I like your side.

Well, what have you
seen? What have you heard?

It was just some strange
lights in the house.

In the house?

In the house.

It was probably 1:00
or so in the morning.

And then there's two
skylights in the back bedroom.

And if, like, somebody
is coming from the barn,

you can see the light
coming through one of them.

And if someone's
coming down the driveway,

you'd see the lights coming
through the other one.

Well, this particular light came straight

down through both of them.

Wow.

And it lasted probably 10 seconds or so.

And then about 10, 15
minutes later, it did it again.

What?

And it was basically
coming straight down.

Coming straight down, which
implies that the light source

is actually over the house.

Yes, yes.

That's the way we thought.

That is so strange.

We've collected data that speaks
to some kind of overhead anomaly

here.

What that is, we're
still trying to figure out.

But we've measured
it electromagnetically.

We've measured it with rockets.

So we know that there's something

happening above the ranch.

We just don't know when,
why, how it is happening.

While Andy continues his conversation

with the current ranch owners, Paul

sits down with Katie's sister, kris,

to discuss her own
experiences on the ranch.

So what was it like growing up out here?

Katie and I had an interesting childhood.

I was a teenager at the time.

And so I, being the older sister,

would take care of Katie a lot.

A lot of what happened
there and during that

time has kind of been really
shoved down in my psyche.

Like, there's a lot of blocking going on.

The things that were going on there

were just so frightening
and almost unbelievable.

It's things that if you went
to talk to your friends about,

you wouldn't do it.

Because you would just be
mocked and ridiculed and be

labeled a liar.

Is it something that you didn't talk about?

Absolutely not.

We were instructed not to
ever talk about it, and we didn't.

We didn't.

So here's the big question.

When you say we were instructed never

to talk about "it," what is it?

It being... ok, that's a great question.

Yeah.

"It" being the events at the ranch.

One major impactful incident
that happened within the house,

it was a night like where
everybody's in a good mood

and playing games.

And out of the blue, bam, bam, bam,

bam, bam, but on the wall outside

of the house, a forceful pound.

It wasn't, hello, anybody home?

No, it was boom, boom, boom.

Everything just
screeched to a halt, right?

That's when the voice
starts, in my recollection,

you know, a voice coming into the house.

We have allowed you to stay.

Your friends will not
say anything about us.

It felt like it was under
the threat of death.

Ok.

So everybody is, like,
frozen in their tracks

in their tracks.

Right.

Very, very, very frightening.

Yeah, like, I can see it.

Your whole demeanor,
you just went back there.

Yeah.

Another thing that was kind of
freaky, I guess you would say,

is there was a large circle in the field.

And Katie and I would

I don't know if you'd say hang
out there, but we'd, you know,

toss a frisbee or a ball or whatever.

It was just in the front.

There was snow around every
once in a while like you have here.

And there was no snow
in this perfect circle.

So it was almost like an eerie feeling.

Those kind of memories,
they're a long time ago.

Secondly, they're almost like
a dream-like state in my brain.

But how I know it wasn't a dream
is because there's documentation

that it wasn't a dream.

What was unknown to Katie and kris,

back in 1978, around the
same time they were living there,

a group known as the aerial
phenomena research organization,

or apro, also documented
the strange events at the ranch.

That apro report, when I first read it,

I was literally stunned
that things I had up in here

are on paper.

Right.

It feels like, you know, you
did your best to put it away.

Yeah.

But... I wish I could release that.

I'd like to be able to do that with this.

Well, we'll take it slow.

Thank you.

We have some experiments
that we'd like to try.

We would love to just walk
the grounds with you and Katie

and sort of, you know, see
what it brings up for you, what it

brings up for Katie, for the two of you

to be back there together.

Yeah, it will be very,
very interesting to see

the feelings that come up... yeah.

From an adult perspective, definitely.

So how do you feel,
knowing that we're just

a few minutes from childhood?

I'm a little apprehensive, to be honest.

But I'm trying not to be fearful.

I'm an adult. I'm not that kid anymore.

After almost 50 years, kris

is returning to rocky mountain ranch

for the first time since
her strange experiences

there as a teenager.

Ok, so here we are.

Ok.

Now we're getting closer.

Caught your breath a little bit.

Wow.

My gosh.

Wow.

Here we are.

- Welcome back, brother.
- Hey, man.

- Hello.
- Hello.

I'm Andy.

Hi, kris, nice to meet you.

Kris, it's so great to have you back.

Yeah.

It's... how did I get here, you know,

like, after all these years?

It's been a long journey.

Yeah. Should we... yeah, yeah.

Walk up a little bit.

Yeah.

Wow.

Ok.

Wow.

It's so weird to be back here.

You all right?

Wow.

Um.

Wow.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I do have some emotions.

I told myself I wasn't going to cry.

A lot of memories here.

Yeah.

- Ok.
- Ok.

- Let's keep going.
- Ok.

I'm sorry.

No, you're doing great.

Wow.

Well, the trees are bigger.

Now, kris, this is our first time meeting.

But let's go wherever
you feel called to go.

- Yeah.
- Ok.

And if you'll just share
what you're feeling,

if you'll share what you're thinking,

if you'll share what you remember

Paul and I will immediately
know whether or not we have any

sort of data that is
correlative to whatever it

is that you experienced here.

We've talked to Katie.

We've learned what
she experienced when

she was about 10 years old.

Now we've got her older sister, kris,

who was a teenager at the time.

She's gonna have a much different

sense, maybe better memories
of what she experienced here.

This is a great opportunity for us

to paint a Fuller picture of
the experience of this place.

I want to keep walking this way.

Sure, yeah.

Like, from the house,
I don't know, maybe

like, maybe in this

do you mind if we
walk a little bit further?

Absolutely.

More this way.

Wherever you feel drawn to.

Ok.

Just trying to get a sense of
how far we are from the house.

This looks interesting.

I feel sick to my stomach.

No.

Suddenly or... just getting
a little nauseous feeling.

Emotional or... I don't know.

It's ok.

Well, this is something
that's very interesting to us.

Yeah.

Where you have parked
us is exactly where

Katie showed me where the spot was

that you used to play frisbee.

The landing site where
kris has led them is also

where the team has
had two rockets crash

in previous investigations.

My goodness.

And when terra exploration group

ran a drone-based investigation here,

the results were
completely unexplainable.

All that black area there
is no magnetometer data.

I can't explain it.

It's never happened before.

I'm kind of speechless
right now, to be honest.

What we're seeing here
is that you and your sister

seem to be antennas that
pick up the energy this ranch.

And we're in a position to
help unlock a little bit of what

might be happening here.

Yeah.

Because we can bring the data
and the experiences together.

You can see the memories
that this place is prompting.

You can see sort of the pieces
coming back together for her.

And she's just here by herself.

I'm really curious to see what happens

when she's here with Katie,
when they're here together.

Now that kris has had a chance

to explore the ranch on
her own with Andy and Paul,

the team brings the two sisters together

later that night, before launching

into their first experiment.

Katie, it's great to have
you back on the ranch.

And it's really something
else to have the two of you

here at the same time.

Yeah, this is the first
time we've been back here

together since we were kids.

I've, you know, spent my entire life

not wanting to know anything about this,

just trying to get rid of it.

Because it was very frightening.

And, you know, you don't
want to carry that around.

I mean, this was not like
a month or two or weeks.

This was three years of
our life where this activity was

at its height, of circles on the
ground and disembodied voices

and hums and all of it.

It was a lot to process.

And for us to come together
to face that together is fantastic.

Well, we will literally
take it one step at a time.

I think, you know, for Andy and I,

the idea is we really are...
you know, we're here with you,

but we're also observing you.

We want to see how you react.

And, you know, we're
going to follow your lead.

Welcome back, jares.

Hey, glad to be back.

Jares, great to have you again.

Wonderful to be back.

Tell me a little bit about what
we're planning to do again here.

I know what kind of
equipment I have here,

but I don't know exactly
what we're trying to do.

Our goal here is to exactly replicate

the same experiment we
did with you the last time

we were on this ranch.

For their first experiment,

Andy and Paul have brought
in engineer and ham radio

specialist jares
doverspike to test the theory

that the phenomena
at rocky mountain ranch

might be able to communicate
with Katie and her sister kris.

The most sort of unsettling experiences

that both of the sisters report
having was the night when

the house was powered down,
when the entire house had lost power,

that somehow there was a voice coming

through the stereo system.

During their first investigation,

the team broadcasted Katie's
voice through a ham radio

into the house and up into space,

capturing what appeared to
be the ranch responding back.

We are back, and we want to talk to you.

Whoa.

Rocky mountain ranch

seems to have a number of things
in common with skin walker ranch.

And one of the things
they have in common

is that the ranch seems
to have its own relationship

or its own response to
different people on the ranch.

So a big part of what
we're trying to do here

is bring in kris and
see if we can't measure

a difference in the amplitude
between the two sisters

and the ranch itself.

For this experiment, they're
going to use a ham radio

to broadcast on a


which correlates with strange
phenomena and has been

used by the skin walker team to try

to communicate with the ranch.

We're gonna be broadcasting a
sweep across this 1.6 gigahertz,

part of the spectrum where we're
getting these weird signals here

on the ranch.

We're going to hopefully stimulate

the biggest response so far.

So your equipment is exactly the same

as what we had here last time.

Exactly the same equipment.

Exactly the same setup.

It's transmitting on the
exact same frequency.

Pretty much couldn't
get more similar to what

we were doing before.

Andy and Paul have
also set up multiple vintage

radios to replicate the setup
when the sisters were children

in the 1970s and heard electronic

voices coming through radio
speakers inside the house.

So this is the actual room
where Katie and her sister

experienced those disembodied voices

that were coming from speakers
that had no power source.

This is our version of a
speaker with no power source,

a crystal radio that essentially
runs off of no external energy

at all.

And it's connected to
an oscilloscope here.

So the oscilloscope will show
us visually if there's any energy

coming from the crystal radio.

That's the heart of this experiment

is to have this room filled
with highly sensitive equipment

right.

So that any change that's
perhaps even beyond human

hearing, the equipment itself will

pick it up here and then tell
us from the safety of the patio.

All right.

Let's get these guys turned on.

And then we'll be ready to start.

The plan is, after they
broadcast a voice at 1.6

gigahertz into the atmosphere, they

will use multiple radios inside the house

and monitor for any audio anomalies

coming from the speakers.

The most sensitive radio they're using

is a crystal radio, which
works without electricity.

Attached to the crystal
radio is an oscilloscope,

which will graphically
display any electrical signal

coming from the crystal radio.

And then we also have a spectrum

analyzer connected to a
highly sensitive microphone.

So anything those mics
pick up, we'll be able to see

in terms of a spectrum here.

The team is adding additional data

to the experiment by setting
up two AI-powered ufodaps that

can identify any unknown
aerial phenomena and also

a thermal camera to
capture any temperature

changes in the atmosphere.

Both instruments are focused
on the most intense hotspot

on the ranch, the landing
site, to monitor for any activity

during the experiment.

We know from our previous
experiment with Katie

that the house can react, that
something in the environment

here responds to her presence.

What's going to happen
with the two of them together?

That's what we're here to find out.

Having both of us here should
prove to be quite interesting.

Yeah.

Let's find out.

- Hello.
- Hi.

- Hey.
- Hi.

- This is my sister kris.
- Nice to meet you.

Hi, nice to meet you.

Kris, this is jares doverspike.

He's our radio experiment expert here.

We've seen an amazing
response with your sister

when she came out here
and did the same experiment.

We saw significant
variances in the static

that was actually being
produced by the am radios.

What we're curious
about is whether or not

any part of this energy transfer
changes now that the two of you

are here.

Bottom line is the only difference is you.

This is reaching way back in time.

I mean, here you are in the present,

you know, just outside the room
where one of the most salient

experiences you had here took place.

How does it feel to be back here?

Shocking.

And right now I'm a little
nervous, to be honest.

It stayed with us all these years.

We'd sleep in the
same room because she

was a protector to me.

And I really looked to her to protect me.

Well, we hope that we can
try to unpack and understand

a little better, you
know, what went on here

and what might still be going on here.

So our first step here
will be basically a control.

Right.

Jares will make an announcement.

And we'll see whether or not there's

any reaction on the radio
spectrum to jares' announcement.

- Everybody ready for this?
- All right.

- Go for it.
- All right.

Let me know if anyone
else can hear me out there.

You can see what
baseline looks like when

jares launches, right?

That's the length of his transmission.

Otherwise, it looks the
same before and after.

Ok.

Ok, you're up.

Ok.

Ready?

Speak directly to the phenomenon.

I'm going to be having
a secondary operator

off of my station.

Hi, I just want you to
know that I am here.

I was here many, many years ago.

And you significantly impacted
my life over these many years.

Here we are now trying to
figure out what's going on,

who you are, and what you're about.

I saw a notice on the oscilloscope

during that I don't think I
saw during my transmission.

When you spoke, there

was a completely different
signature on the oscilloscope

than when she spoke.

That's fascinating.

And that's not what we would expect.

They should be the same.
It's just a human voice.

It's just energy.

Yeah.

This is not something
that would be typical.

If the oscilloscope changes,
that means that the crystal

- radio is picking something up.
- Right.

That's a very different response

than what we got with Katie.

Very different.

Last time with Katie, we saw a
spike on the spectrum analyzer.

This time we're seeing
something on the oscilloscope.

It's a little more subtle.

But no question... we are seeing
a response from the environment,

from the house, from
whatever energy is here.

There's an energy shift here happening.

Right.

It is very clearly tied to
kris and her transmission.

Andy and Paul are with
Katie, kris, and engineer

jares doverspike conducting
a ham radio experiment

to see if they can communicate
directly with the phenomena

on rocky mountain ranch.

We haven't tested Katie
yet on the transmission.

Maybe that's the next step. Ok.

Ready for me to call again, just

- to do another baseline check?
- Yes, sir.

All right.

Can4 I'm gonna be
having a secondary operator

off of my station.

So that's normal.

Ok.

Ok, I'm ready.

All right, so who is in the house?

Whatever you are... I want
to know who is in the house.

Who am I talking to?

My sister and I, all these
years, we've lived with this.

And we want to know
who, what, and why

we're communicating with you.

I just saw it go nuts.

- Did you see it moving?
- For awhile, yeah, I did.

Right off the bat, there's this,

like, intense flicker of activity,

and then it stabilizes.

Right with her voice.

Yeah.

That thing changed,
that oscilloscope energy

changed significantly.

Wow.

That was... that was something.

What we were seeing before

in our first experiment here, there

was an audible change only.

There was no change
in the oscilloscope.

Same person, different response.

But again, the only
difference is the presence

of the other sister.

And I wonder if the energy between you

somehow is affecting the
energy that you're putting out,

you know, that the sum
is greater than the parts.

Well, yeah, I think you're
making a fantastic point.

We did not account for the fact
that we have actually introduced

two variables, an additional person,

but also a complete change in energy

by putting the two of them together.

Right.

Because I feel safer with big sister here.

That's interesting.

Yeah.

We should introduce a
third element to the test.

We should have a
transmission from both of them.

Ok, do it.

All right.

I'm going to be having secondary
operators off of my station.

So, so many things
happened at this ranch

with pounding on the
house, with orbs flying off,

with a circle on the ground,
the landing site, um, what

is up with the landing site?

I mean, what was there
and what is still there now?

Is there something still underground?

Is it above ground?

What is it?

This is something that you need

to know terrified many, many people here

for many, many years.

And if that's what you were
trying to do, job well done.

Wow.

I mean, that was incredible.

That was a lot... In that time.

And the correlation about
when the energy shifts

happened along with
what you were talking about

was really significant.

The landing site, it just
seemed to just go vroom.

That's mind bending.

It really is.

It's mind bending that
there's something to respond.

But it's not a response to all of us.

It's only a response to the two of you.

Our control did not get that response.

Whatever it is about the
sisters, about their presence,

about their... their
activation of this environment,

it is having a measurable,
confirm able effect.

Our goal here really was to see
how you sort of changed the mix,

and I think what we've
seen here is, significantly.

You know, I've been
thinking that all data points

to some kind of relationship
between these two sisters

and the ranch itself.

One of the things that
we haven't tried yet

is just passively observing what happens

when we let the two sisters themselves

be the target of the study.

Right.

Instead of trying to provoke a response

or trying to find the
boundaries of an anomaly

or trying to dig into the energy source,

what if we just observed?

That's interesting.

Yeah, I mean, we've
never really done that.

What we've done time after time is

try to use physical sort of
instrument-related triggers

to get some kind of
response from wherever

we are, right, whether it's
lasers or rockets or audio,

right?

This time we have the chance
to use really people as triggers.

Right.

So we use our technology
to see what's happening

in the invisible world.

But then we let these
two sisters come together

and essentially trigger
or bait the phenomenon

- into showing itself.
- Right.

We know that whatever relationship

these sisters hold with the ranch

is an intense relationship.

So I feel like we should
take them to the most

intense anomaly on the ranch.

Right to the landing site.

Yeah, I mean, really, that's the
site where seemingly everything

happens at this place.

We'll set up all of our equipment.

We'll put ourselves in
full observation mode.

We'll have the two of
them and really light the fuse

- and see what happens.
- Sounds like a plan.

This place usually delivers.

We have everything set up tonight

for I'm hoping what is
going to be one of our most

exploratory experiments here.

What we're going to try to do here

is record the influence
that you two may or may

- not have on this environment.
- Ok.

All right.

For their final test at
rocky mountain ranch,

Andy and Paul have
brought sisters kris and Katie

to the landing site to see if having them

both there together might
elicit any strange phenomena.

This is the same place where both of you

independently took me and identified

the bare spot in the ground.

It's also the spot where we've had very

sophisticated equipment fail.

We've seen rockets fall out
of the sky, just in this very spot,

not to mention the fact that
we've had other report sources,

like the apro report itself, that all

reported strange phenomenon
happening in this area.

Yeah, right in this location.

The team has set up thermal cameras

to monitor for any
changes in temperature,

AI-powered ufodaps to
capture any aerial anomalies,

and a spectrum analyzer
to see what radio energy

is present in the environment.

So what we're doing right
now is establishing baselines,

trying to get a sense of what
does normal look like right out

of the gate so we can measure anything

that changes against that.

You see that look at that.

So what we're seeing
here is a very intense signal

here at 1.6128 gigahertz.

And then this is showing you that there's

some fluctuating energy
that's related to that signal.


a restricted frequency

range reserved for earth-to-space and

space-to-earth communication.

I'm going to see

if there's anything else
happening in the spectrum, Paul.

We're seeing this 1.6 signal.

Is this being triggered by their presence?

Is it being triggered by
some of the experiments

we carried out earlier?

That's what we're trying to figure out.

Is this the location where
you felt the nausea hit you?

Yes, right away.

Nothing tonight, though?

No, nothing tonight.

Nope.

Whoa.

You see this? Yep.

Yeah.

What is that, Paul?

Let me zoom out.

Look at all that fluctuating energy.

Yeah, that's really weird.

That looks angry.

That does look angry.

What is that?

Wow, what could that be?

It has an edginess to it.

Where all that energy is coming from

is something beyond me.

Look at that, and it's intensifying.

It's interesting how it does that.

It'll just, like, get mad almost.

You're interpreting this to be anger?

Yeah, like angry at
us for trying to identify it

or to mess with it somehow.

To me, it's like, we

they know we're here and we
know they're here kind of thing.

My shoulders are on fire right now.

So I don't know what that is.

Is it tied to the message
that you're getting or is

it tied to something else?

I have no idea.

I don't know.

It's the first thing
you said is it's angry.

So if you're feeling like whatever

the phenomenon is is angry... right.

I mean, that obviously would
make you feel uncomfortable.

Yeah.

Are you ok?

Breathe.

Yeah, no, we're ok.

Ok, so just keep us...
keep us in the loop.

Look at that. Whoa.

Whoa, whoa.

This is up at 1.73
gigahertz, 1.731 gigahertz.

I mean, it just keeps going and going.

Are you all right?

I gotta be honest, you don't look ok.

Yeah, no... you look
like you're really worried.

I'm in pain. I'm in pain.

It's, like, unbearable right now.

Yeah, I'm right here.

It's burning.

It feels like 10,000 knives in
the top of both of my shoulders.

Ok.

Is it radiating downwards?

- Yeah.
- Ok.

Like, right down into here.

Ok.

I mean, she looks very pale to me

now compared to how she did before.

You all right?

A nine.

I just want to go get warm.

It's ok.

- Ok.
- Yeah, I'm concerned.

Yeah, look, we're just
going to walk you back.

All right.

I don't understand that.

Because the whole
time I was standing there,

I was, like, trying to
communicate... sit down here.

In my mind mentally.

And the more I did that, the more that

was happening in my shoulders.

Wow.

Jeez.

When I first took her blood pressure,

it was actually really high.

On the second one, it calmed down.

I am obviously concerned
with what's going on.

And I am thinking that
whatever was going

on up there is a stressful...
a stressful environment.

I'm glad that we got
her out of that situation.

I don't think we need to call 911.

But I am gonna kind of monitor her.

Absolutely.

We're not going anywhere.

Yeah.

She's shaking.

I don't know why I'm shaking.

So, guys, welcome back
to rocky mountain ranch.

Tell us what happened.

Where do we start?

Third time's a charm, guys.

Yeah, I have to say that this was

one of our most interesting experiences

at rocky mountain ranch to date.

We started by engaging kris.

And as soon as she landed,
it was astonishing to watch.

Because she took us,
of her own direction,

her own natural instinct,
back to that same bare spot,

that landing site.

And it was remarkable.

I mean, it's been 50 years.

So this is the opening of that
time capsule that I mentioned.

It was like she was returning home.

Wow.

The next thing we wanted to do was

try to get kris and Katie
together to exactly replicate

the same ham radio experiment that we

did during our very first
investigation with Katie alone.

Right.

So jares came in.

He set up the same am
radios that we had used before.

He set up the same crystal
radio that we had set up before.

We had a flir running and
we had our ufodaps running.

Ok.

So our production team actually

put together a number of highlights

for us, some very interesting things

that happened at the same
time that the sisters were

present in the ranch house.

And I want to share that with you next.

Ok, we can correlate those.

- Correct.
- Yeah, ok.

Correct.

And here we actually
have the first clip happens,

when Katie and kris enter the room,

this is what happens on the flir.

So this is what's wild, guys.

Ok, what did we just see there?

Here we see this large black mass.

That's a cold burst.

In nature, thermal events
usually play out slowly.

Yes.

Not on that timescale.

Yes.

And where are we looking?

Almost directly over the landing site.

Are you kidding me?

Nope no.

Well, that certainly
changes my interpretation

of what we're looking at.

Yes, it does.

Think about it like this.

Wouldn't you say it's
about 68 degrees in here

or 70 degrees or something?

All right, now watch this.

If I had a flir over here on this wall,

it would all be pretty much one color.

Right.

Y'all feel that cold air?

Flir would have just changed.

Right.

What is this?

Yeah, a portal. A portal.

It's a portal.

Wow.

You're frustrating me with this data.

Yes.

But not in a bad way.

Erik is always frustrated, and I like

it when you get him that way.

Now we have more hits that we wanted

to run by you, this time
corresponding to the point

in the night where kris and Katie tell

the story of the voice that they
heard as children in the house.

So who is in the house?

Whatever you are, I want
to know who is in the house?

Who am I talking to?

And again, you can see off to the right

yeah, it's an airplane.

There was a flash up there.

Right, you saw that, too, right?

Yeah, yeah.

That's what we're
trying to make sense of.

It's bright.

Now, I picked up on something
as you played it this time,

Andy.

I was watching this plane
track across from the right

to the left here in our field of view,

and it appeared that it went like this.

I'm hitting play.

Here's real time again.

And, of course, of interest
to me here, given where

we're looking, is might we have
an optical anomaly taking place?

I understand that's where
you were going with that.

Look at that.

That was significant.

Go back to that.

Right, just stop.

Now, play it forward.

Right there.

It's consistently doing this.

It does a shuffle.

Yes, it almost appears that
we're viewing this aircraft

through some kind of shimmer. Right.

This is exactly what we've been

trying to capture for several
years now here at the triangle.

You have a known light
source, commercial air

traffic way behind you.

And we see, as it passes behind, what

we know to be an anomalous
hotspot or zone of interest,

the position and
trajectory of this air traffic

wiggles in a way that would
be reminiscent of a optical

distortion between us and it.

Whatever is causing this, you're

saying there's some kind
of lensing effect here... yes.

That's happening in the
anomaly over the landing site.

Yes.

We got a lot of data at that point.

You got rocket crashes.

You've got rocket malfunctions.

You've got this weird hole in the grass.

We've got missing magnetometer data.

I'm not gonna jump up and say,
hey, we just found a wormhole

or, hey, we just found the
portal, but here's the thing.

This, to me, is the best piece of data

that you've gathered on this experiment.

That is the best example of what

I mean, that is a good
catch, Erik, a very good catch.

Not the same night, but the
following night, the two sisters

agreed to go back to that
same bare spot, that landing site.

We moved our entire experiment
station out to the landing site.

Ok.

We are right in it.

So I wanted you to see the
change in the rf spectrum.

Ok.

All right.

Whoa.

You see this? Yep.

- Yeah.
- What is that, Paul?

Let me zoom out.

That's angry.

That does look angry.

Wow. Whoa.

What could that be?

Is all that data?

It looks like it is.

Yeah, I mean, it looks structured in a way

that it's someone's technology.

Right.

But whose?

And then I also wanted to show
you the response that we started

getting from kris and Katie.

Are you all right?

I gotta be honest, you don't look ok.

Yeah, no.

You look like you're really worried.

I'm in pain. I'm in pain.

It feels like knives, like 10,000 knives

in the top of my shoulders.

Her response began as soon
as we saw the radio frequencies

start bouncing around.

She did not escape
that pain until we literally

removed her from that site
and took her into the garage

of the ranch house.

You went inside and
closed the garage door?

Yeah.

Right, well, which was probably

a fairly decent shielding.

We had one day here
where suddenly I was

getting nauseous, sick, pain.

So I went and got into these metal silos.

And when I did, it's
like you flipped a switch.

I felt fine.

Son of a did it really go away?

Yes.

It's like a damn switch.

That was... that was freaky weird.

Somehow I was being susceptible

to some sort of electromagnetic event

that everybody else wasn't.

I would say that we're learning
every time we get together,

guys, as we go beyond skin walker,

there's so many more aspects
to it that just keeping our arms

around it is not an easy task.

Yeah.

The biggest question I
have now for Katie and kris

is how do they feel now?

Have they reconciled?

Have they made peace with it or has

it stirred up something worse?

And I'd really be interested to
know that and know what they

think about, you know, further, you know,

poking in this hornet's nest.

Because we're gonna poke,
whether they're with us or not.

We're going back to
wherever that anomaly is

and doing some more measurements.

We'll start working on a plan for what

we want that to look like.

Thank you for what
you brought to the table.

- It was a pleasure.
- Good job, guys.

Well, thanks, guys. All right.

Thank you. Yeah, man.

Great work.