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01x04 - Episode 4

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Risque Business: The Netherlands and Germany". Aired: February 20. 2024.*
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Shin Dong-youp and Sung Si-kyung boldly explore the sex cultures of the Netherlands and Germany, mixing hands-on experiences with revealing interviews.

01x04 - Episode 4

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[upbeat rock music playing]

Dong-youp.

That belongs to someone, man.

[laughs]

But imagine if I rolled up

on one of these.

-You seem to be dressed for it.

-I know, right?

Why would there be a club

in a place like this?

Isn't this a junkyard?

I hear the music.

-Boom, boom.

-[distant techno music playing]

HIDDEN INSIDE THE DARK ALLEYWAY

BERLIN CLUBS

[woman in English] Berlin is known

as the capital of techno.

People stay 48 hours to 72 hours

through the whole weekend.

You can see various styles

from all over the world.

[man] Escape the confinement of society.

[woman] People from

all parts of the world there in a club.

[in Korean] Someone's supposed

to be here to guide us.

-[in English] Hi.

-[in Korean] Hello.

[in German] My name is Romy.

-It's nice to meet you.

-[Si-kyung in Korean] Nice to meet you.

[in German] Are you ready

to go to church with me?

-[in Korean] Church?

-Church? Why?

What church?

[in German] I go to the club

every weekend,

so my friends and I

call it "going to church" as a joke.

-[in Korean] I'm Buddhist.

-[laughs]

[Si-kyung] So it's a figure of speech.

Do you love clubbing so much

that you go every week?

[in German] Yes.

The clubs in Berlin are superb.

You can experience something special there

that you can't

in any other club in the world.

A lot happens there

that may be shocking to some.

[Romy] A lot of people have sex there.

That's why the bouncers are picky

about who they let in.

A lot of people get sent away.

-[in Korean] If that happens

-It happens a lot, apparently.

-We'd lose an entire episode.

-[Si-kyung] Yeah.

If that happens, let's just find

a kebab place and talk there.

[laughs]

Have you ever been rejected at the door?

[in German] I've never been turned away.

[in Korean] How do they decide?

Do you need to be dressed well?

[in German] Well, check out my outfit.

KINKY FASHION:

A BOLD AND RACY STYLE

[Romy] It can be easier to get in

if you're dressed for the occasion.

I prepared a surprise gift for you.

Who's wearing it, and who's holding it?

[laughs]

[Romy] Every club has a different vibe,

so it's important to dress accordingly.

How about it? [laughs]

-[in Korean] No way.

-Come on.

Rock, paper, scissors!

[yells, groans]

[exclaims in joy]

[in German] You hold the leash.

[in Korean] Sure.

-[Dong-youp laughs]

-[Si-kyung] This is nice.

[laughs]

[in German] I'm not sure

if you'll be able to get in, but

-[in Korean] At least we have this.

-Stay still.

[laughs]

[Romy in German] Should we go?

Do you see the line there?

We need to stand in line.

[in Korean] My goodness.

THE RITE OF PASSAGE TO THE MAIN STAGE

THE LINE

AFTER A WAIT OF AT LEAST 2 HOURS

ONE MUST BE APPROVED

BY THE BOUNCER TO BE LET IN

MAIN STAGE

PATRONS MAY COME AND GO FREELY

FOR 2-3 DAYS AFTER BEING GRANTED ENTRY

[upbeat techno music playing]

[in German] Our turn's coming up.

Are you nervous?

[in Korean] I'm kind of scared

that he might not let us in.

[in German] Just try to relax.

[in Korean] Just play it cool.

Let's play it cool.

[in German] Doesn't she look great?

We've got the same outfit on.

I love it.

-[in English] Wow.

-Oh.

[in German] Love it.

[Si-kyung in Korean]

Just when I was starting to relax.

[in German] Relax.

[in English] Okay.

[in Korean] Look how scary

that bouncer looks.

[heavy bass rock music playing]

[Si-kyung in English] She got rejected.

Yeah.

Oh.

[in German] I'll stand in line alone,

so we can go in separately.

See you on the other side, hopefully.

-[in Korean] We're not going together?

-Seriously?

Are you ditching us?

[in German] It's easier to get in

when you go separately.

-They tend to turn groups away.

-[in English] Okay.

-Hi.

-Hi.

-It's your first time here?

-[in German] Yes. I'm alone.

[in English] So?

We good?

So how many you are?

-Just two?

-Just two.

Just two.

Just two.

-It's your first time here?

-Yes.

Okay. You know which party today?

Yeah, of course, of course.

-Enter inside.

-Thank you.

Thank you.

[in German] You made it!

Let's go check our stuff in now.

[laughs]

-Awesome.

-[laughs]

I'm gonna go in almost naked.

Keep it kinky.

[Romy laughs]

-[in English] Seriously?

-[Romy] Yeah.

[in German] It's hot and stuffy inside.

The less you wear, the better.

[Si-kyung in Korean] Oh,

she's wearing it underneath.

[Dong-youp] She had

her clubbing outfit ready.

COAT CHECK (=CHANGING ROOM)

THE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE

CHANGE INTO THEIR CLUB ATTIRE

[upbeat sensual music playing]

[Romy in English] I have to sit down.

[Si-kyung] Okay.

[in Korean] Gosh.

-Feel like I should help, but

-[in English] Do you want to

Yeah.

[Romy laughs]

-[Romy] Yeah, woo!

-[Si-kyung] Okay?

-That's good.

-[laughs]

[coughs]

-Okay?

-[in German] Thank you.

[laughing] Thank you.

[in Korean] You're good at that.

Of course. [clears throat]

-[in English] There you go.

-[in German] Thank you.

[laughs]

Come with me.

[Si-kyung in English] Okay.

Wow.

-[indistinct chattering]

-[distant techno music playing]

[Romy in German] What do you think?

Do you like it?

[Si-kyung in Korean] Wow,

this place is no joke.

It smells just like clubs in Korea though.

The humidity, the sweat,

the smell of cigarettes

[in German] Are you ready?

[techno music grows louder]

Welcome.

-[people whooping]

-[heavy techno music playing]

[Romy] Do you hear the music? The bass?

It's good, right? I love it.

This is Berlin.

BERLIN CLUB FASHION

[woman in English] Definitely.

It's totally acceptable to wear lingerie.

BDSM-style type of things,

like harnesses or choker.

Sometimes, you can see naked people.

[man] They use their body as a canvas.

They have tattoos,

piercings, crazy makeup.

[woman] Though you might not look pretty,

don't be too shy about it.

Whatever your sexual identity,

who you kiss, who you do more stuff with

People don't care about what you do.

They just care about themselves.

The clubs in Berlin are a little more

free-spirited and open-minded

than clubs anywhere else in the world.

[in German] Come this way.

[in English] Let's dance!

-[Romy whoops]

-[heavy techno music continues]

[Romy] Yeah!

Oh.

BERLIN CLUB DANCING

[man 1] Usually,

you just jump and move the body.

[man 2] Your body will tell you

what to do.

[woman 1] Usually, the people that go up

to the DJ's box are a little bit crazy.

[man 3] When you go in front

of the speaker,

you can feel this vibration.

It's crazy.

BERLIN CLUB MUSIC

[man 4] If you want to enjoy techno,

Berlin is the place. There's no doubt.

[woman 2] Because of the steady rhythm,

you can dive deep into the music.

You're feeling fine?

Do you want to drink something?

[in German] Yes? Let's go out.

[in English] Go outside.

-[Romy] It's good?

-[Dong-youp] Oh.

[in Korean] This is

It's very different

from the clubs we have in Korea.

[Si-kyung] Oh.

[Romy in German] If it's okay,

I'll pay for your drinks

since this is your first time.

OUTDOOR BAR

Three beers, please.

[in Korean] Thank you.

[in German] Here.

-[in English] Cheerio. Prost.

-Prost.

[in German] What did you think

about all those people dancing?

-[in Korean] It was fun.

-[Dong-youp] Oh, well

I don't usually go clubbing in Korea,

so it was fascinating.

[in German] Right, but what about dancing?

You seemed a little hesitant in there.

[laughs]

-[in Korean] I wish I was a good dancer.

-[laughs]

I didn't really know how to act at first

because of this collar,

-but it's the one thing helping me fit in.

-Is it less embarrassing?

[laughs]

I feel sorry

that I'm such a terrible dancer.

-I know.

-[in German, laughing] It's fine.

We can practice together.

[laughs]

[in Korean] But now that I've seen it,

most people in there

aren't exactly great dancers either.

-They're just enjoying themselves.

-They're very passionate.

[in German] What's important is that

you're dancing, not how well you dance.

Everyone dances in their own style

and finds their happiness.

[Romy] It's fantastic.

[in Korean] How would you rate

tonight's crowd?

[in German] Tonight seems great.

Everyone seems to be happy.

[Romy] They're all enjoying the night.

There are about 300 clubs in Berlin.

TYPES OF CLUBS IN BERLIN

TECHNO CLUBS

CLUBS BASED ON TECHNO MUSIC

AND CULTURE

FETISH CLUBS

CLUBS WHERE PEOPLE ARE FREE

TO EXPRESS THEIR VARIOUS FETISHES

SEX CLUBS

CLUBS WHERE YOU CAN BE FREE

FROM ANY FORM OF TABOO

I'd say people in Berlin

are very open-minded.

[in Korean] I see.

[in German] Feel free to tell me

if you ever want to use the restroom.

The line is always really long.

It's unisex, so we can go together.

[awkward music playing]

[in Korean] To the restroom?

[in German] Yes, all of us. Shall we?

[laughs]

[Dong-youp in Korean] Wait.

THE RESTROOM

[in German] This whole line is

for the restroom.

We'll have to stand in the back.

[in Korean] But why is the line so long?

They should build more restrooms.

THE REASON THE RESTROOM LINE

IS SO LONG

1. IT'S UNISEX

2. VARIOUS ACTIVITIES TAKE PLACE THERE

[upbeat electronic music playing]

[indistinct chatter]

[Si-kyung] Wow,

this place is something else.

Let's interview some people.

-[in English] Hi.

-Hey.

Where are you guys from?

We're from Sweden, originally.

We live in Berlin since six years,

and we have a magazine out,

called Playful magazine.

We cover underground culture,

the kink scene, the techno scene

A MAGAZINE THAT SHOWCASES GERMAN

CLUB AND UNDERGROUND CULTURES

[Si-kyung] What are you doing here?

We're standing in line to the toilet.

Yeah, this is a long line.

I mean like, if you wait too long,

it can become a fight?

-No.

-[man] I've never seen a fight.

So they would just wait?

Yes. Wait patiently.

The toilet line anyways,

if you have an outfit like this,

it's good to bring someone with you.

Yeah, yeah, need help.

It's pretty dirty, and then you can like

Squat.

[laughs]

Oh, yeah.

Usually, in Berlin,

people go to the toilets in groups.

This is kind of a social gathering for us.

-We can talk. We can hang out.

-Yeah, yeah.

And then, of course,

people do lots of stuff in the bathroom.

You can have sex, or you can

LIKE SEX, FOR INSTANCE

[sensual music playing]

[door squeaking, thudding]

There are certain rules in Berlin clubs.

Like, no r*cist, no h*m*, no sexist.

And as long as you keep to them

and respect people,

-you can basically do

-Anything.

You can At least you can be naked,

or you can have sex.

[woman] So it's very relaxed.

So, "I want my freedom to be respected,

so I will respect your freedom."

-That's what it is, right?

-Exactly.

[in Korean] Right.

I think we can go in now.

-[in English] Please.

-It was so nice to meet you.

-Thank you so much. Ciao.

-You too. Enjoy.

[Romy in German] We'll be interviewing

some people here

-in their twenties and thirties.

-[Si-kyung in Korean] Okay.

[in English] The first time

I went clubbing in Berlin,

there was just like,

a naked guy standing in the corner,

and he was, like, ready to go.

I think it's not unusual to kiss,

to make out,

maybe to have oral sex in the toilet.

Hi. Nice to meet you.

[woman] Hi.

So you guys know

what this program is, right?

-Absolutely.

-Yes.

First of all,

introduce yourselves to the camera?

My name's Firoza. I'm 27 years old.

I make music,

and I'm a presenter from the Netherlands.

FIROZA, #27DUTCH

#MUSICIANANDTVPRESENTER

[Si-kyung] And we met Romy.

I'm a 21-years-old student

born and raised in Berlin.

ROMY, #21GERMAN

#UNIVERSITYSTUDENTINBERLIN

I'm Joyce. I'm 21 years old,

and I'm a university student

from the Netherlands.

JOYCE, #21DUTCH

#UNIVERSITYSTUDENTFROMAMSTERDAM

I'm Jones. I'm 37 years old.

And I'm a sex educator

and a sex counselor in Germany.

-Sex educator?

-Yes.

[laughter]

JONES, #37GERMAN #SEXEDUCATOR

Do you teach people, like, have sex?

Yeah, basically yes.

[Jones] So we do sex workshops

and communication skills, for example.

-I'm intrigued.

-[laughs]

[in Korean] Okay, how about a toast?

-[in English] Yes. Cheers.

-Cheers.

-Cheers.

-Yes.

[Romy] Did I give you one?

-Cheers.

-Okay.

[Romy] Cheers.

[in Korean] When we made the toast,

your eyes

-[in English] Ah, yeah.

-Yeah.

In Germany and the Netherlands,

if you don't look each other in the eyes,

you have seven years of unhappy sex life.

[laughs]

So, our seven years of happy sex.

[in Korean] It's not that

you won't have sex for seven years.

You'll still have sex, but it will be bad.

[Firoza in English]

It's going to be really sad.

Really bad.

I think bad sex is even worse than no sex.

[laughter]

[in Korean] What's love life like

for the younger generation

in the Netherlands and Germany?

[in English] I have a boyfriend,

and I met him

through a dating app called Tinder.

-So it's Tinder.

-Yeah, quite good-known.

It's the old trusty dating app,

but there's also dating apps

where you can disclose

your sexuality straight away.

So you can just get down to business.

-[Si-kyung] So it's fast.

-[Firoza] It's faster.

I'm intersex.

I don't think that you'd know

exactly what that is.

Intersex is when somebody is born

with characteristics of male and female.

I was born a female, but I don't have

a uterus, I don't have ovaries.

-[SI-kyung] He knows about it?

-Yes, he knows about it.

He just knew from the start already

but he didn't mind it at all,

and it was just totally fine

and we went dating, yeah.

It's quite common, but you have also,

like, a lot of other trendy dating apps

in the Netherlands.

For example, you have, like, an app

that you can select a fruit

of the kind of relationship that you want.

So you have a fruit for friends

with benefits kind of relationship

FRIENDS WITH BENEFITS:

FRIENDS THAT CAN HAVE SEX

SERIOUS: A SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP

MARRIED BUT AVAILABLE:

MARRIED BUT CAN SLEEP WITH OTHERS

ONE-NIGHT STAND: SEX JUST FOR A NIGH

OPEN RELATIONSHIP

A RELATIONSHIP IN WHICH YOU CAN SLEEP

WITH PEOPLE OUTSIDE YOUR PARTNER

I feel like a lot more young people

are starting open relationships.

I feel like

that's a really hot topic right now.

-Yeah.

-[Si-kyung] Open relationships?

[Firoza] Yeah, open relationships.

So it's where you have one partner,

but you're also allowed to date

and have sex with other people.

-Yeah, we know what that is.

-[Firoza] Okay.

I am in an open relationship

at the moment.

-At the moment?

-At the moment. Yeah.

[Jones] She already had

a stable relationship,

and I came to it as a kind of a satellite.

-A satellite?

-[Jones] Yes, a satellite.

Like, you know, a second one,

but way lighter.

After one year, they split up,

and now it's me and my girlfriend,

and we're having experiences

outside of our relationship.

But it needs a deep level of trust.

It's a lot of work,

it's a lot of communication,

-but it's also building trust.

-Yeah.

For me, I really love my boyfriend so much

that I don't think I could

handle someone else emotionally.

I also don't want to.

I mean, maybe even having

a stronger bond with your relationship

when you're experimenting with

different forms of relationship styles.

-[in Korean] I see.

-Interesting.

[Jones in English]

I think the younger generation knows

that the divorce rate for marriages

is about almost 60% in Europe.

-[in Korean] What?

-[in English] Yes.

[Jones] So that's quite a lot, right?

People try to find out

alternative ways of staying together

but also having the freedom to explore.

So it's a challenge.

-It is.

-[Si-kyung] It's an experiment.

[in Korean] He might know

since he's an educator.

[Dong-youp] What is

the average number of times

that people have sex

in Germany and the Netherlands?

[in English] The statistics is, uh

it's like, twice a week.

And the length of intercourse

is about five minutes.

-Five minutes?

-Yeah, five minutes.

Then four rounds. [laughs]

[laughs]

I mean, I know how people can have,

like, sex for several hours,

so this is not a very long time.

You can have sex all night long as a man

if you know what to do.

[in Korean] How do you practice that?

[in English] When you're just about

to come, then take a deep breath.

So if you train this enough, you can

have sex like playing the piano,

going up and down and up and down.

[Jones] And anyone can have sex

for all night long, basically.

But I also know that people enjoy,

like, a "quickie," you know,

what you call a "schnelle nummer"

in German.

[Jones] When you are in an elevator,

for example.

-Or you are parents

-Ah, yeah, yeah. Intense.

it's just before your kids come home,

you have, like, just two minutes

you can have sex.

-That's like, the quickie version of it.

-Ah-ha.

I think Germany

and the Netherlands are pretty the same.

-Similar, right? Yeah.

-We do the same.

[in Korean] We were actually in Amsterdam

before we got here.

We found the Netherlands to be

a very open-minded country.

[Dong-youp] Why do you think that is?

[in English]

I think it's because the Netherlands

was the first country

that legalize same-sex marriage.

-Yeah.

-And sexual education starts

at a really young age.

At the age of four or five years old,

we start sex education.

Later on, at like, an age of 12 years old,

you tell about what sex is, for example.

Like, teenagers here are telling

that they had sexual experience

at like, age of 13 or 14 already.

-Thirteen?

-[Joyce] Yeah.

-Oh.

-Wow.

Korea The recent survey,

it's somewhere around 20 to 24.

Wow.

It's getting younger

and younger and younger.

You?

-[chuckles]

-[all laugh]

[in Korean] I'd say it was

earlier than the average in Korea.

[all laugh]

Where do couples usually have sex

in Germany and the Netherlands?

I think in the Netherlands, it's like,

quite common to have sex

at your parent's house.

-Parent's house?

-[Joyce] Yes.

Even if they're on the second floor,

you're on the first floor,

and just having sex and be quiet.

You don't have to be quiet. [laughs]

They already know.

[in Korean] This is fascinating.

[in English] I also know parents

who slip their teenagers condoms

because they know that

they're going to have sex,

and at least if they have sex,

do it safely.

Actually, this guy is

in the condom business in Korea.

-Really?

-Really?

Number-one selling condom in Korea.

His face on the

And it makes people more excited

because they see your face.

Every time you're happy when you open it.

-[laughs]

-"Now it's my time."

[in Korean] It's not printed

on the actual condoms.

[all laugh]

My face isn't involved in the action.

And we also had a program on TV,

it's been on for ten years.

And it was all about sex,

but also drug culture.

On TV, so it was not on the internet,

you didn't have to go look for it.

It was just at set times on TV

and everyone was watching.

And I watched it as a teenager.

Did you watch it?

Yeah, I watched it too. Yeah.

SPUITEN EN SLIKKEN (2005-2018)

A SHOW ABOUT SEX AND DRUGS

AIRED FOR 14 YEARS ON BNNVARA,

A DUTCH PUBLIC TV NETWORK

FOR VIEWERS 12 AND UP

CURRENTLY AVAILABLE ON YOUTUBE

It really shaped my view of sex and drugs

because we were always very real

and very open about it.

We have a lot of sex ads,

like phone sex ads or, like, sex toys ads.

[Romy] It's very normal.

[vibrating]

[in Korean] When you saw those ads

as a child,

did your parents tell you not to look,

or did they not care?

[in English] No, no. It was all fine.

It was normal for us.

[in Korean] I wonder why that is.

[in English] You don't have some ad?

Not on national TV, no.

Also no alcohol ads

or something like that?

On the nighttime, like beer, soju,

maybe, it's okay.

[Si-kyung] But not in the daytime.

-[Firoza] Oh.

-Okay.

That's why we're doing this program.

Like, we want to put it on the table

and talk about it.

We don't want to judge anything.

We just want to show them that

so many different cultures in this planet.

It's very necessary, um

and have a good communication.

That's a big part in our relationship,

communicate, and our sex life.

Good sex is really feeling comfortable

in your own skin,

and expressing your needs, expressing

your desires and really enjoying them.

[Joyce] I also agree.

It's really important to tell

what you like and what you don't like

and it's just about joy of, like,

interacting together.

[upbeat jazzy music playing]

[Dong-youp in Korean]

We were invited to a party held by

the top female sex toy manufacturer.

-[people cheering]

-[laughs]

[in German] Hi. Welcome.

We are Womanizer.

[man] We are the creators

of the world's best female sex toys.

I heard that they had a nickname in Korea.

[in Korean] "Electric Husband."

ELECTRIC HUSBAND

-Electric husband.

-Electric husband.

[in English] It's a guaranteed orgasm

in three to four minutes.

[woman in English] Are you ready?

One.

Two.

We're taking you to that space,

and it's feeling nice.

Three.

Four.

And now it's getting intense.

-Seven.

-[Si-kyung] No.

No. I'm going to come.

[woman] Almost to cl*max.

Almost to cl*max.

-Ten!

-Wow.

[woman] Stop.

[groans]

EPISODE 5

WOMANIZER

[Si-kyung in Korean] Even for a man,

this sensation must be addicting.

[upbeat electronic music playing]