Talk to me.
All these here, from countries
that no longer exist.
They must be
worth a lot.
Your son is stealing
from us again.
He's back on drugs.
My man Romer's got some
sweet new producto.
Whatever you don't sell,
bring it back
along with the cash
and we're cool.
We have to help him,
or he's gonna die.
f*ck! I can't f*cking
find this sh...
Eric, you need
to come with me.
I need to find it, and
you need to f*cking help me.
I'm gonna go,
I promise.
Mom?
Mom? Mom?
Help me, please.
I need an ambulance.
Hurry!
Let me out!
What, do you really think
I would do that?
Like, k*ll my own mother?
You're full of sh*t.
The jury, in the
above-entitled action,
finds the defendant guilty
of the charge
of m*rder in the second degree.
You don't belong here.
I'm leaving you money.
New lawyers, new investigators.
Chris Keller
didn't put you here.
We got to focus
on what did.
The cops, the judge,
the evidence.
Russell falsified
tons of evidence.
He f*cked me
every way he could.
You have any proof?
I got all kinds of proof.
I just f*cking love prison.
Lieutenant Russell
straight-up lied
to my parole board
in writing.
LAPD Internal Affairs
has to go after Russell.
Sergeant Ian Lynch.
Lynch,
Internal Affairs.
Eric Fisher,
the shithead
who k*lled his mother?
Who I put in prison?
Who deserves to die there?
That guy?
This Lynch as*h*le,
he's not gonna stop.
You think I'm
that kind of cop?No.
Get this piece of sh*t
out of here.
He smells.It's me. It's Dave.
Word around the office
is the captain's pissed.
You're taking
too long, Ian.
It's not your shoe print.
Someone else was
in the house,
and I'm thinking
it was Chris Keller.
Get in the car.What's going on?
Get in the car.
You drive.
Trey?
Okay, okay, let's go.sh*t.
I knew, I knew...
Did you tell anyone?
No.
Trey would've k*lled me, like,
he would've k*lled me.
I need an ambulance. Hurry.
My mom--
she's f*cking dying, okay?
Just get over here.
Easy.
Why do you want
to talk to them? You hate cops.
Did you do
something really bad?
I did.
I did.
You want me
to send you to Texas?
Credible witness. Claims that
Chris Keller's the k*ller.
It's not my job, or yours.
Well, i-if Eric Fisher
didn't k*ll his mother,
you're not interested
in who did?
You want to work homicide,
take the f*cking detective test.
Your report.
On the letter only,
on my desk today.
Captain, he-he's got
full-blown A*DS.
The witness in Texas,
Trey Carano.
I.A. time limits
are not gonna mean sh*t
when Eric Fisher files
a civil suit
in this case.
You know, his P.I.,
Charlie Shannon,
he's got reporters
on speed dial.
Carano is a potential
exculpatory witness.
If we don't
talk to him
and he dies,
how's that gonna look?
Look, I'll go to Texas,
I'll knock it right out.
I'll have my report
on your desk by Monday.
Fine.
Thank you, Captain.
Yeah, get me Curtis at RHD.
Hi, Harry, it's me, Alex.
Yeah, I've got a situation here.
You got a detective
who can travel to Texas?
- Friedman's pissed.
- You pushed her into this trip.
If that happens, all you've got
is the parole board letter.
Dave Russell skates
with his "Not Resolved."No, Louise,
that's what happens
if I don't go.
Look,
Amy Harlow, right,
she says that Eric Fisher
wasn't there.
If I don't get
that backed up from Carano...
You want to be the hero.
Solve the case.
Yes.
I want this freaking as*h*le
gone for everything,
for all of it.
I know Lynch.
He wants to be f*cking
Jim Rockford.
He's gonna talk to Carano.
No, he's not.
Yeah, he is. Yeah, he is.
God, he f*cking is, man.
And what's-what's-what's
Carano gonna say?
"Yeah, no, I was at the
crime scene, but I waited in the
car while f*cking Chris Keller
f*cking m*rder*d her"?
Carano's a f*cking snake, man.
You know, he got my dad
to give him my car
so he could go track down
Chris Keller in San Francisco.
Guy smoked dope for a week,
told my dad he was
this f*cking close.
You got to
call Lynch,
but you got to talk to him,
you got to stop him.
I mean, Carano will undermine
Lynch's entire report.
No, he won't.Yes, he will, man.
I told him Carano was a dead end
when I handed him
the Harlow tape.
Look, Lynch filed
his report yesterday.
Now, just relax.
Okay? This is happening.
That's a lot
of questions.
I like to be prepared.
you know?
Just remember,
you want checkable facts.
Why does Carano
want to talk to you?
Does he need to get
something off his chest?
Or is he using you,
setting you up for a lie
he wants you to believe?
Only way to know is
through checkable facts,
and you get those
by letting him talk,
having a conversation,
not through a bunch
of pre-determined questions.
Thank you.
I'll let you know
if I need anything else.
There it is.
Get that.
Put it on the chair.
I got it.
I- I got it.
Easy. Slower.
I told him 15 minutes, no more.
You can't touch him.
One more infection
and he'll die.
Excuse her.
My sister's a very
cautious person.
Okay.
So this is a recording
of Internal Affairs
interview on complaint file
03014A96.
So I want to take you back
to early 1983,
around the time of...He didn't do it.
...m*rder of Mary Fisher. Who?
My boy. Eric.
He didn't...
didn't do it.
So I'm going to ask you
a few questions.
Back then,
did you know
an Amy Harlow?
She recalls an incident.How is she?
It was near the time
of the m*rder,
um, she-she says that
you picked her up from work.
Well, I would...
I picked her up every day.
Well-well, this day,
Chris Keller was
in the car with you,
and the three of you,
you drove-- Well,
she thought that she was
going to Disneyland,
but you parked
a couple of blocks
from the Fisher house.She said that?
You and Amy waited in the car.
Keller went to the Fisher house
to get money from Mr. Fisher,
and when he returned, he wasn't
wearing his leather jacket.
Amy said he was,
he was very upset.
You, too.
And that she thinks
that something happened
in the house.
Well...
You want me to stay?
Yeah.
I'll be here right behind you.
Amy thought that something
happened in the house.
See...
First of all,
I would never have had
Chris Keller in the car
to pick Amy up.
You're saying that Amy's lying?
I don't know.
Maybe she thinks
that this ha-happened.
She always
thought that
Chris Keller was involved,
but all of this...
parking far away
and jackets
disappearing,
sounds like she's tripping.
So...
I mean, that's
the thing about
the hot b*tches, you know?
They're so f*cking crazy.
I broke up
with her...
...six times.
Six times.
She just wouldn't leave.
You can ask my sister.
This is the girl that
wanted to marry me.
So, Chris Keller, then.
Why did Amy think
that he was involved?
f*cking everybody thought
that Chris Keller was involved.
He was violent.
He loved knives.
But that cop, you know.
That cop had it in for Eric.
So you're saying Eric
didn't k*ll his mother.
I'd swear it
with my last breath.
Then who did?
The devil.
Man...
you're a thousand short.
Hey, man, I told you.
I told you.
You said it was cool.
I lied.
Come on, man...
You got a problem with that?
But thanks for dropping by.
All right, hold on.
We can work this out here.
Hold him!
No, no, no. No,
no, no, wait a minute.
Let me-- I can fix this.
Yeah? How you gonna fix it?
Front me another quarter.
Okay, I'll gram it out,
I'll pay you back.
I'll pay you back all the money,
I swear to God.
I just need a couple days.
That sounds like a plan.
If you give me a kiss.
'Cause I like to get kissed
while I'm getting f*cked!
Okay. Okay! Okay.
I want my money.
Okay, just wait.
Look, my parents are rich, man.
They're rich, okay?
My dad's got
a stamp collection
that's worth, like,
a f*cking hundred grand.100,000. That's bullshit!
No, it's not!
It's not bullshit.
I swear to God,
I'll sell a couple.
I'll sell a couple, I'll come
back, I'll give you the money.
I'll give you the whole f*cking
grand, man, I swear to God.
Trey, is he telling the truth?
You do that.
Bring it to the club tonight.
f*cking watch yourself.
Tonight?
Tonight.
You got a problem with that?
Eric was in deep sh*t.
Really f*cking deep.
He didn't even know
how f*cking deep.
f*ck, man! sh*t.
Where we going?Where the f*ck
do you think I'm going?
My mom's home.
f*cking stamp shop
closes at 6:00.
I don't get it, man.
You think this is
about a thousand bucks?
I am gonna pay him back.
You just told Romer
that your dad has
100,000.
What do you think
he's gonna do?
He's gonna rob
your f*cking house.
He and Ray are gonna
take the safe and anything else
that he can get his hands on
after you've paid him
the thousand.
You get that, right?
Just pull over.I can't breathe.
I can't breathe,
I can't breathe.Just calm down. Pull over, man.
f*cking pull over!
f*ck.
f*ck, man.
They're gonna f*cking
k*ll 'em, man.
f*cking Romer's Hells Angels.
And Ray Pine f*cking
shot a guy six times
and threw him out
a f*cking window!
Your parents are gonna be fine.
How the f*ck can you
even say that?
Because they're not
gonna be there.
Your mom brings you groceries
every Thursday, right?
So Thursday morning
she's at Gelson's, right?
Your dad's at the office.
The house is empty, right?Yeah.
Tonight, we go to the club.
You keep your mouth
f*cking shut.
I'll tell Romer
you know the combination.
You know how
to get into the house.
We hit the house,
but it's got to be Thursday,
I can't. I can't.
I can't, man.
You got to.
You got to.
It's the only way.I can't do that, I can't.
You want to protect your
parents, this is the only way!
Look...
I'm your friend, man.
I know. I know.
I'm trying to
help you out here. Okay?
I know, man. I know, I know.
I know. Thank you, man.
You just...
you got to stop being
such a f*cking p*ssy. Okay?
Okay?
Dude, do these,
and then we'll go.
Come on, come on,
come on.
It's gonna be okay.
Come on.
Eric?
It's just me, Chris.
Hey.
Hey.
My dad... kicked
me out. Can I--
Can I crash?
Hey, come on,
come on, come on!
Launch time, baby.
Your rocket ship awaits.
We got sh*t to do.
Okay.
What's wrong?You gotta help me, man.
What's going on?
Just come in. You gotta--
You gotta help me.
Hey, what's up?
Yeah, you won't do it
in the bathroom, though.
Look at this.
Kermit the f*cking Frog
in olive oil.
Put it right here and then
give me that sh*t, man.
What the f*ck?
Did I tell you to bring
your girlfriend there?
We gotta talk.
No, talk's over.
You got my money?
We both know it's not
about the money
that I owe you, okay?
You're gonna rob
my parents' house,
we're gonna f*cking help you.
You want to do it without
the combination to the safe,
without knowing how to get in,
or-or when it's gonna be empty,
just be my f*cking guest.
And when
this is done,
you guys are even.
Just leave my
f*cking friend alone.
You're spunky, man.
Your girlfriend's spunky.
All right, big man.
Come on in, brother.
Come on, I got some fine folks
here I want you to meet.
Hey, everybody.
Say hello to Eric.
So, Thursday?
Yeah, man.
Thursday.
Morning.
He's not up for this.
Look at him.
Come on, he's a
f*cking kid, man.
Their f*cking kid.
It's his parents, man.
Yeah.
Who f*cking kicked him out.
That's the guy with the
combination to the safe.
You don't have it?
Said he'd tell me
when we're there.
Anything we take,
we split.
Even.
Equal shares.
Everybody gets...
the same.
Equal shares,
equal weight.
So if this thing
goes south...
...if he f*ck up...
I mean, if he talks,
if he even whispers
my f*cking name...
...it's on you.
There is no place
I can't get to you.
You know that,
don't you, Trey?
Good, man.
Just, um,
make sure
he knows it, too.
All right?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
You told Eric
that Romer planned on
robbing the house?
But Romer never said so himself?
He didn't have to.
So, before
you told Eric that,
Eric ever plan
to rob his parents?
I'm just telling you
what f*cking happened.
Right. I-I'm saying
it sounds like you planned it.
Like I planned it?
Let me tell you
something.
There was no f*cking plan.
This was a bunch of meth
addicts robbing a house.
Chris Keller
opens it up,
we go inside,
Eric stays outside.
Eric was gonna be the...
lookout.
That was the big f*cking plan.
Really?
An ice cream truck?
He was a drug dealer.
No one stops an ice cream truck.
Romer used to drive
out to the desert
and he'd come back
and this truck would be...
filled with meth.
So,
on the tenth,
March 10,
what happened?
Plan was
fix up, head over
to the house together.
But...
Yeah.
That's not how it happened.
Well, how didit happen,
exactly?
Exactly?
I don't know.
I wasn't there.
Show me your hands!Hands, hands, hands!
That morning, Feds
busted into my place.
Put me on a plane to Miami
to testify
at this m*rder trial.
This guy I'd done quaaludes
with in Lauderdale started...
telling me about all the...
people he k*lled.
S- So, the Feds took you away
on March 10,
the morning of the m*rder?
Jesus.
All right,
well, that's...
I wanted to be there.Yeah.
I wanted to protect him.But i-if you--
if you weren't there
and you don't know
what happened,
then what in the hell
am I sitting here for?
'Cause Romer told me.
Right when I got back.
He told me something,
and I have had it in here...
...for 20 years.
Man.
I just got back
from f*cking Florida, man.
Had to help my sister out
with this bullshit.
I was just hanging out here,
gonna get
a couple of burgers from your
girlfriend, but she's not here.
Might have to come back.
You think he did it?
What's up?
Come on, man.
Your little gram man
k*lled his mom.
Do you think he did it?
What?
It was like a... test.
He wanted to see
what I would say.
Yeah, he did it.f*cking A he did it.
Smacked out of his mind.
He k*lled her...
k*lled her high.
I shot him up myself
that morning.
And he still owes me
15 bucks, man.
You tell him that...
...if he ever gets out.
That's how he told me.
That's how I know
what happened that day.
He got rid of him.
Man, Trey said
he'd f*cking be here!ROMER: Yeah, well,
Come on, man, l-let's just...No, no, no, no,
no!
You don't understand,
okay? He's supposed to be here.
We're supposed to get high.
Something must've happened.
He...
We got to f*cking cancel, man.
Cancel, my a*s.
Let's go now.-
No!Or I'm gonna have
Ray come up here
and rip your f*cking eyes out!I don't f*cking care!
f*cking do it, man!
f*cking k*ll me!
I don't give a sh*t.
I'm not doing it
without Trey. Chris,
I can't, man,
I f*cking can't.He can't,
okay? Not-not like this.
Okay.
I'll fix you.
All right?CARANO:
See, Eric never,
ever did smack,
and he never used a
needle, not for anything.
Come on.
15 bucks, man-- that is, like,
a Romer-sized shot
of pure heroin.
No, no, no,
not-not that.
I don't-I don't want that.
Yeah, you do.
Got a real gentle touch,
come on.
I- I-I can't...Don't-don't do it.
I can't pay you.That's cool, man.
Don't worry about it.
You can pay me later.
Come on, man, he's-he's
scared of needles. Just...
We'll do...
We'll-we'll-we'll-we'll
do this another time,
you know, when-when-when-when
Trey's back?
We can do this, like,
next-next week, right?
Yeah, next week, man.
Makes sense.Okay.
All right.-
You'll be fine.
sh*t.
What the f*ck?Let's go.
What did you give him?I said let's go!
We might have to get
a diamond drill,
to take the whole
f*cking safe with us.
What the f*ck did you give him?
Yeah, Einstein,
do you know how much
those f*ck even weigh?
I don't give a f*ck.
sh*t!
sh*t.
sh*t, man, she f*cking saw us.
I'm sorry.
Get out.
I'm calling the cops.
I- I didn't think you'd be here.
I- I'm just...
My mom kicked me out.
Get out.Okay. I'm-I'm leaving.
Please just...
don't call the cops.I have to.
You broke into my home.
I can't go to jail.
Look at me,
I'll-I'll f*cking die.
Well, that's your problem.
You f*cking b*tch.
So...
who did it?
Who k*lled her?
Can't say.
'Cause you weren't there.'Cause he didn't tell me.
Who do you think
had it in them?
I don't know.
All of 'em.
Any one of them
that didn't have it in them?
Yeah.
Not Eric.
Not my boy.
f*ck. f*ck.
Mom, you got to breathe,
you got to breathe, Mom!
I'm so sorry.
I don't know
what to say.
Yeah. Well...
neither do I.
Th-Thank you.
Have you talked to Chris?
Does he know?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Just get you home.
She was stabbed, Trey,
and Chris, he's f*cking missing.
We have to go to the police.
We have to tell them
about Chris.
I know.
You think they're
gonna listen?
So what?
Eric's your friend.
Something you're not telling me.
What the f*ck's going on, Trey?Nothing.
I don't want to f*cking
go to the cops.
You're right,
okay, baby? Hey.
I'll go to them.
I promise.
Did you tell them?
Cops. Come on.
Thank you.
All those years,
you knew.
Your friend was in prison,
you didn't help him.
He would have k*lled me.
You've done a lot
of bad things, Trey.
A lot.
This one you did good.
You really did.
- Hey, I really appreciate this.
- I'll call you
when I get back to L.A.
Feds served the warrant
at 0700 on March 10,
took him straight to Florida
to testify.
Sent him back on the 12th.
So that part was true.
But even in Carano's version,
Fisher had some part of it.
All right? When to hit
the house, how to get in,
that all came from him.
He was in
on the plan.
Maybe Carano's
trying to beef up
Eric's involvement
so he doesn't come across
as the mastermind,
you know, so to speak.
That's a big maybe.
'Cause everything we just heard?
Hearsay,
from a drug addict
who wasn't there.
Why I need to talk to Romer.
Sergeant Lynch,
Captain wants
to talk to you.
So RHD's gonna
re-investigate Fisher.
Gonna...
Chen and-and Young--
they're-they're gonna handle it.
You know how many months
I've been working on this case?
I know. I know exactly
how many hours you've put in,
and now you can't see straight.Okay.
Okay. All right, well,
the drug dealer--
Ken Romer-- we need
to put a tap
on his phone, we need
to stimulate the wire.
RHD's already
talked to him.
The Pines, too.
Ruled them all out.
What, so that's it?
David Russell wins?
Case closed?
No.
Case re-opened.
Just not by you.
Meanwhile,
you can hand me your report,
finished or not.
And then pack up.
I'm transferring you
to the Davis Recruit
Training Center.
You'll catch some heat for this.
Make it worth it.
Chris Keller opens it up,
we go inside,
Eric stays outside.
Eric was gonna be the lookout.
That was the big f*cking plan.
Lieutenant Russell
locked in on Eric
the second he saw him.
He framed an innocent
17-year-old boy
just because he could.
You read the Harlow interview.
Do you have
any reason to believe
that she's lying?
Any indication at all that
she's not a reliable witness?
Mr. Fisher.
Theresa Adler.
Los Angeles
Herald Examiner.
Let's start with
Detective Dave Russell.
Nothing about Carano.
All about Russell.
She's gonna fire you for this.
Yeah.
Um... yeah.
Thank you.
Hope you packed
your toothbrush.
He won't
need that suit
in prison.
Cameron's not gonna
let him walk.
No way.
All rise.
She won't let it happen.
Regrettably,
we move
to dismiss this case.
Mr. Fisher, you're free to go.
Good work.
Yes! Yeah.
Just give me one...
second.
Just give me a second.
I just need to wash my hands.
That okay with you?
You know there's a
lot of press outside.
You may want to
go out the back.
Doesn't matter
what anybody else thinks.
We both know the truth.
Yeah.
We do.
Just in time.
They were just about to dump it.
He seemed like a good guy.
Yeah, that'd be nice.
You know what?
Actually, I'll just catch up
with you in a minute.
You want to go fishing?
That'd be nice, yeah.
When, Dad?You tell me.
You're the one
with the schedule.
Yeah, and you're the one
who's gonna get sued.
You fought like hell
to catch that fish.
Remember that?
And you cut your thumb
on the line.
But you just...
you kept on fighting.
How do you know?
That's when I knew you
were gonna turn out okay.
Nice story, Dad, but
you weren't there.
'Course I was.
I remember.
We... It was a great day.
Sure. Okay.
Look.
I've got to go.
I have trial prep,
and I promised
Nate dinner, so...
You know Fisher's lawyer
is gonna use this case
to franchise himself,
just like Johnnie Cochran?
Hey, if I wasn't there,
then who took this?
It wasn't your mother.
She gets seasick
at the beach.
No, you're right.
It wasn't Mom.
I took this.
I was there.
Who else?
Right?
I don't know, Dad.
You're the detective.
Frankly, I think Kershaw's
gonna be a real star.
You got to remember, he is 21
years old, the youngest
Dodger pitcher
since Sandy Koufax
to strike out 13 or more
batters in a game,
and that was last April.
Yeah, but what about
the postseason?
What about it? He pitched great
against the Cardinals--
an extremely strong outing.
And choked against the Phillies.
They should have won that game,
and he fell apart.
I wouldn't say he fell apart.
Please. You could see it
in his eyes.
He didn't have the guts.
Now, that's kind of
harsh, Frankie.
You're talking about
a 21-year-old...
On March 10, 1983,
Chris Keller, a drug addict
who came to see my parents
as a source of income...
...stabbed and
m*rder*d my mom.And you found her
like that?
She was still breathing.
Yeah.
I called the ambulance.
I... I tried to save her.But then you were arrested?
I mean, I was high.
I had long hair.
At the time, so did half the
17-year-old boys in California.
No, yeah, I mean,
and when you think about it,
all it takes is one corrupt
detective, and-and you're done.
For life.
I mean, it happens
every day.
You know,
it happens to...
to people, you know,
people a lot less
privileged than me.
But it didn't stop there.
That detective...
Dave Russell.
He lied.
He faked evidence.
A- And the letter.
He wrote the parole
board years later.
He really had it in for you.
Yeah.
Yeah, he did.
Why?
Why did he go to such great
lengths to keep you in prison?
It's... it's a tough one,
you know?
I mean, I've had...
27 years to think about it.
You know?
I mean, that...
that letter, I mean,
I... it was...
it was my first parole hearing.
You know, nobody gets paroled
their first time,
and-and he knew that, so...
Why?
Right?
Why'd he write it?
I still don't get it.
Rock on!
Can I have your autograph?
Can I help you?
Yeah. Sorry.
Um...
I,
I used to live here.
I like what you've done with it.
It's, um...
it's nice.
My husband's coming home any
second, and we're going out...
Sure.
No, I'm-I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to disturb you.
I was just...
taking a look.
Thanks.
Hey, pal.
Hey, buddy.
What? What?
I got you.
I got you. Here.
Just-just hold him right there.
I think it's time
for his nap.
No, no.
Eric.
Eric?
Okay, Mary, look over here.
Mary.
Mary, look at the camera.
Come on, dear.
Look at the camera.
Aren't you happy?
Aren't you happy,
Mary?
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01x10 - I.A. Sgt. Ian Lynch & Det. Brian Chen vs Trey Carano 2003
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Interrogation is described as "an original concept based on a true story that spanned more than 30 years, in which a young man was charged and convicted of brutally murdering his mother.
Interrogation is described as "an original concept based on a true story that spanned more than 30 years, in which a young man was charged and convicted of brutally murdering his mother.