Welcome to our World! Where we serve you cookies to ensure you get the best viewing experience on our site.

Did you know that you can remove censorship board-wide, use our advanced search functions, be notified when new content is posted, join our memberships, set episodes to show in any order you want & more if you are logged into your account?

Register or sign in here: ucp.php?mode=register

01x03 - Episode 3

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "You Are What You Eat: A Twin Experiment". Aired: January 1, 2024.*
Watch/Buy Amazon



Based on an 8-week study conducted by Stanford University that put 22 sets of genetically identical twins on opposing (but healthy) diets: omnivore and vegan.

01x03 - Episode 3

Post by bunniefuu »

[tense ambient music playing]

[Daniel] During the pandemic,

I was at home a lot,

and I would draw a lot.

And I started drawing

sort of about this idea of

Eleven Madison Park

becoming fully plant-based.

This kind of seems

like another little celebration.

Just 'cause the celebration of the season

could be, like, the strawberry.

Different strawberries.

[Daniel] I communicated that to my team,

and we decided

that if we couldn't create an experience

that was on the level

that we'd had before,

that we wouldn't do it.

We will open the restaurant

and serve meat again.

[tense ambient music continues]

The morel could be a two-component, like

Could be a plate and a bite on the side.

Or it could be a bite and then the course.

[man] Maybe something like this

drops in the middle.

- [Daniel] To share?

- So you take the sauce, and, like

You, like, sauce the bread or something.

You know, like

I think if we serve this in the beginning,

that we wouldn't do the tonburi.

[Daniel] I felt that we had to elevate

plant-based eating

so that it can be more delicious

than anything we've known from the past.

I think it's a good start.

Aside from the core team

at Eleven Madison Park,

no one believed

that this actually would work.

You became

the best restaurant, uh, in New York,

and then it was

best restaurant in the world,

and then, uh,

you change your menu completely.

- [audience laughing]

- [Daniel laughs]

Who does that? And why would you do that?

What kind of insane human being are you?

[Daniel] It became world news.

But, I mean, it came from every angle.

[dramatic string music playing]

But for me, at that point,

it was so clear that we had to go all in.

[dramatic string music grows to crescendo]

I'm at a market.

This is my first time

shopping for and cooking vegan food.

[Carolyn] I need help,

and so my friend Ava

is going to help me

build my pantry of vegan stuff.

[Charlie] Made notes in my journal

about different things I wanted to eat

this week and in subsequent weeks.

[Carolyn] So, we're looking at mayonnaise.

[Ava] See there. Egg yolks.

- That means it's not vegan.

- [Carolyn] Oh, yeah. Oh.

[Ava] So you can't use this one.

The biggest challenge of doing

a human intervention nutrition study

is that you can't control everything.

This is an important crux in the study

because now they have to cook

on their own.

They have to buy their own food

and cook it.

Look at that. Beautiful.

Oh yeah.

Well, what if they're not

perfectly adherent?

[Pam] I found some

amazing tasting ground beef,

which is obviously plant-based

'cause it's vegan.

Ooh, look, there's also

some vegan chocolate-chip cookies.

I did get a couple snackies.

[Christopher]

You continually have to check in.

Making chia-seed pudding this morning.

[Christopher] They're gonna get asked

about their diet.

They're gonna get asked

about mental clarity.

[Wendy] I added some green beans

and leftover meatloaf turkey.

And they gotta poop for us, bleed for us

[Rosalyn] I did my blood sample today,

and I did my stool sample today.

and pee for us,

on top of everything else. Go team.

We are in our self-feeding mode.

And so, tonight, I decided that,

for dinner,

we were gonna have some, uh, chicken.

[insects chirping]

[Craig] This is the OG.

First chicken house I built.

[male producer] About how many chickens

do you think passed through here?

[Craig chuckles]

Let's see. 23 and a half years.

180,000 times 23 and a half.

Whatever that is. I'm no math whiz, man.

[chuckles] A lot.

[chickens clucking]

Just over four million chickens

in this one barn.

And I have four barns.

[unsettling ambient music playing]

I grew up right here on this family farm.

When I was a kid,

tobacco was the cash crop.

I'm not advocating for tobacco,

but that's just the way it was.

Tobacco, naturally, has faded,

and that's when

the industrial poultry came in.

They were courting farmers

to build houses to raise their birds.

If I remember correctly, the ad said,

"We need a few smart birds

to raise our birds."

And I was just ready to, you know,

put down some roots and raise a family

and raise a few chickens and die,

uh, you know.

I didn't want it to get

any more complicated than that,

but it just didn't work out that way.

The way the system works is,

they own the birds, they own the feed,

they own the medications

and all that stuff.

What I actually owned

was the land and the buildings.

If you walk into this barn, you're

probably gonna be overcome with ammonia.

You're gonna be probably pretty disgusted

by the dust and the feces

and the feathers flying around.

And you're gonna see a sea of white,

from wall to wall and from end to end.

You can't, logistically, hatch out

two million chicks a week

and all of them be healthy.

But I do know they have genetically bred

these birds for desirable traits,

mostly for to have a big breast.

The organs won't keep up

with the muscle growth.

The skeletal system

won't keep up with the muscle growth.

So you see a lot of heart attacks.

You see other issues.

You see a lot of birds that can't stand,

just that can't support their own weight.

It was like looking at two toothpicks

sticking out of a big grape.

I just think the bird is bred to suffer.

Um

They didn't ask me to do anything cruel.

Didn't have to.

Um, they crammed 30,000 chickens

into 20,000 square feet,

meaning it's 0.67 square foot per bird.

That is a sheet of notebook paper.

[chickens clucking]

They're crawling all over each other.

They're scratching each other

and opening up wounds.

Bam. Enter bacteria. You had issues.

[Cory] When you raise animals

in this unnatural way,

they're all crammed together,

if one animal gets sick,

it spreads throughout

these warehouses really quickly.

So they use antibiotics

in a prophylactic way,

to prevent diseases from happening.

[cows mooing]

[Valerie] Something the animal agriculture

industry figured out some time ago

is that if they give animals

low levels of antibiotics on the regular,

they get bigger faster.

It promotes growth.

It also compensates

for some of the truly filthy conditions,

with thousands, sometimes

hundreds of thousands of animals,

that are breeding grounds for disease.

More antibiotics are fed to farm animals

than are used in all of human medicine,

just to promote growth and prevent disease

in such a stressful,

unhygienic environment.

One of the side effects of giving animals

low levels of antibiotics in their feed,

or injected,

is that they become a breeding ground

for antibiotic-resistant bacteria.

Things that can cause infections

that are hard or impossible to treat.

[newsman] They now have strong evidence

of a dangerous strain of E. coli

that is now highly resistant

to antibiotic treatment.

[newswoman] At least two million Americans

get antibiotic-resistant infections

each year,

with 23,000 deaths.

We are continuing

to barrel towards a future

where a cut on your hand or an infection

from a routine dental procedure

could prove to be deadly

because there's very little

that we can do to treat that infection.

[Greger] How can you do surgery

without these life-saving, critical drugs

that are being squandered

just to make cheaper meat?

[Valerie] People deserve to know

what they're eating

and where it came from.

Cage-free doesn't mean

your eggs came from a field somewhere.

They likely came

from an industrial facility.

It just wasn't one where the hen

spent her entire life in a cage.

[Craig] You can't trust these labels.

If they got about this much room

to go outside in,

then that's free-range.

It's ridiculous.

[cold, unsettling music playing]

You know, when you see tumors,

and you see, like, bacterial infections,

and you come in here

and you pick up a thousand dead chicks,

and you can just smell it

all over your hand,

kind of dadgum

ruins your appetite for chicken.

So, yeah.

I never ate one chicken from down here,

and I do not eat CAFO chicken today.

[unsettling music swells, then fades]

[man] My name is Dan Holzer,

and I'm a food safety consultant.

Today, we're sending

three samples of raw chicken

to a lab to test for salmonella,

E. coli, and heavy metals.

All three chicken packages

were purchased at a local grocery store.

We're testing raw chicken

because more than one million people

in the United States get sick every year

from eating contaminated poultry.

FDA research shows

that 1 in every 25 packages of chicken

will test positive for salmonella.

One in every five packages of chicken

will test positive for E. coli.

No other food, including produce,

is allowed to go to a grocery store

carrying any pathogens.

The tolerance is zero, except for meat.

Today, we're going to coat

some pieces of chicken breast

with a product called Glo Germ.

The Glo Germ won't be visible to the eye,

but it will show up under a blacklight

if raw chicken residue

comes into contact with any surfaces.

The Glo Germ will show us

how we might move pathogens

around the kitchen unknowingly.

[suspenseful music playing]

[Rosalyn] This recipe is so easy,

you could do it.

- All right, let's bring it out here.

- Oh. White meat.

Yes.

[both laugh]

All right. So first

we should wash our hands.

[Dan] I invited Carolyn and Rosalyn

to cook a chicken dinner,

but I didn't tell them it's a test

to see if they spread pathogens

around the kitchen.

[Rosalyn] So go ahead

and put the chicken in there.

- [Carolyn] All of it?

- [Rosalyn] Yes.

I'm gonna use pepper.

I need to wash my hands again.

Yeah, let's wash our hands,

and then get to the, uh, broccoli.

- [Carolyn] Soap again?

- [Rosalyn] Yes.

[Carolyn] Sorry. [chuckles]

Put some olive oil on it

and just roast it.

[Carolyn] Okay. I could eat

that whole bowl.

[Rosalyn] Okay.

[Carolyn] This doesn't have a cover.

Worst comes to worst,

we could do without a cover.

Oh, a pineapple cutting board!

This is so cute.

[sizzling]

[timer beeping]

- [Rosalyn] Oh, look at that.

- [Carolyn] Okay, this is done.

My name's Dan.

I'm a food-safety consultant.

Um, and we conducted some experiments

around the kitchen today

that you guys didn't know about.

- Mm.

- Ooh.

Um, we coated the chicken with a product

called Glo Germ before you cooked with it.

- "Glo Germ"?

- That's right.

And then we used a blacklight

- [light clicks]

- to trace it around the kitchen.

[Rosalyn] Oh.

- [twins gasp]

- [Dan] All right.

- See that?

- [Rosalyn] Whoa!

[Dan] Remember the pineapple?

Yes. The pineapple cutting board.

[both gasp]

- You touched it.

- I did.

- [Carolyn] You touched all over it.

- [Dan] Look at that.

- It's on the towel.

- [Rosalyn] Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan] Wanna see your clean dishes?

[Carolyn] Ah!

- [Dan] See the plates there?

- [Rosalyn] Yes.

[Carolyn] Look at all this!

[Dan] Look at all that.

[eerie sting]

[Dan] During the backlight test,

we found that we moved potential pathogens

almost throughout the entire kitchen.

[Rosalyn] We touched everything,

including the ingredients,

the handles to all the cabinets, cutlery.

The gadgets and stuff

that we didn't even use

- Right. Right.

- we touched.

[Rosalyn] Help me make the jump

to then the pathogens.

We actually sent samples of the chicken

that you cooked with to a laboratory.

[Carolyn] Okay.

The particular sample of chicken

that you guys cooked with, um,

tested positive for E. coli.

- [Carolyn] Really?

- [Dan] Yes.

And this was just chicken

that was just bought from the store?

[Dan] That's correct.

- [Rosalyn] Wow.

- [Dan] We weren't gonna let you eat it.

When an animal is slaughtered

in a large slaughterhouse mechanically

[inhales deeply]

the contents of their digestive tract,

also known as poop,

can be spread around the room,

and can cross-contaminate other products

that weren't previously contaminated.

[tense music playing]

Many foodborne illnesses occur at home

because most people think

that the meat they buy is safe.

They don't know that they should assume

that all raw meat can make you sick

because it's legal

for up to 25% of chicken products

to hit grocery stores

with pathogens on them.

How can I ensure that I don't eat products

from a slaughterhouse?

I can't entirely trust where it's been.

I am probably

going to work less with meat.

[Rosalyn] Mm.

- [Wendy] Oh, it's a pickle.

- [Pam] Curried chilies. Have to get that.

- [Wendy] Where?

- [Pam] There. Curried chilies. The pickle.

Perky's takes me back

to a typical South African

- Yeah. Yes.

- take-out space.

It was kind of like walking

into a South African bodega.

It really took me back home.

Like, "Oh, whoa."

Obviously, I start getting these cravings

'cause I'm like, "Oh my goodness."

And we love that.

We grew up eating it with our eggs.

- [man] And they're nice and

- [Pam] And I can't have eggs.

But that's they'd be a good substitute

for, um, whatever vegan food you eat.

- Yes, yes. That's so true.

- 'Cause that's vegan as well.

We would boast about South African food

and how delicious

- And we wanted everybody to taste it.

- To taste it.

And it was like,

"Oh my God. It's the best food ever."

And my favorite is my mother's curry.

Mummy's chicken curry is the best.

My favorite South African food

has to be biltong.

[man] It's a South African dried beef.

It's been done

for over 400 years in South Africa.

- They basically invented jerky.

- Mm-hmm.

- It's jerky's, um, sexy cousin.

- Yes.

[man] And it's cured with salt and spices.

Uh, coriander, which is roasted,

which brings the flavor out of it.

People have a special spice.

So, not every biltong tastes the same.

- The process

- The process.

- It's not overly processed like jerky.

- [Pam] Well, it's not processed.

[Wendy] That's true. It's dried.

- And it's really tasty as well.

- Yeah.

[Pam] Again, South Africa's

a huge meat-eating country.

[female producer] If you had

to make biltong without beef,

how would you do it?

- I don't think

- [both laugh]

- I don't wanna go there.

- [both laugh]

Then it's just dried fruit

or dried vegetables.

- Curried fruits.

- Curried fruit. That's not biltong, guys.

Coriander-flavored fruits.

Yes, that's what it is. It's just No.

- Or broccoli.

- Yeah.

[both laugh]

Ah!

Come on, buddy. Come on.

Push, push, push, push, push!

[all panting]

[Nimai] Let's go, Charlie. [claps]

- Breathe in through your nose, Charlie.

- [inhales deeply]

In through your nose,

out through your mouth.

[Charlie] For me, this has been hard.

I've fallen behind

in my workouts big time.

[laughs]

It's been tough

since we've been doing this move,

and, uh, you know,

no no preschool, no daycare.

And I have to be a little bit quiet.

[whispers] Oh sh*t.

[Nimai] Charlie has moved

three times in four weeks.

[grunts]

Like, this I

Just to do push-ups is really hard.

[woman] I'm surprised

you can even do a push-up.

He has many other things

going on in his personal life

that's preventing him

from really giving this study

the attention it deserves.

Michael, who is on an omnivore diet,

seems to be much more invested

in this study than Charlie.

- Push through, push through.

- [exhaling]

Good job, guys. Good job.

So I'm interested to see

how the next two weeks

play out between these two.

All right. Catch your breath.

- We got three, two, one.

- [automated voice] Exercise.

[Nimai] And let's go.

[distant dog barking]

- [woman] Sweet potato everything is good.

- [John] It's so good.

- [woman] Can't go wrong.

- [John laughs] Yeah.

I'll just literally just put them here.

Let me get the seasonings out, actually.

So today, with my friend Kaela,

we're making a vegan meal,

which is a stuffed sweet potato

with onion and pepper fajitas,

as well as black beans,

and a kale salad mix

and Italian dressing.

[device beeping]

[John] Kaela grew up vegan

because of her parents.

I'm like, "Okay, well, can you help me

make a vegan meal, then?"

"You probably have plenty

of recipes to pull out of your book."

You know, as a kid, I didn't really think

I was missing out on anything.

Okay.

And then, as I got older,

it just feels like

there's more options now, like

- Oh yeah, right.

- More vegan options.

- [John] It's getting thrown out, right?

- [Kaela] I mean, if you wanna cut off

- [John] I'm learning as I go along.

- [Kaela] That's kinda what I do with it.

[John] You know,

I didn't eat vegan beforehand,

so what tips do you have for someone

in terms of cooking in the kitchen?

I would say start start off slow.

Definitely go on the internet,

see a bunch of recipes,

because the recipes are out there.

[food sizzling]

[woman] What you're doing

is using the same ingredients,

but changing the foundation of the meal.

For example,

if you have a nine-inch plate,

you might have bean stew, right?

Or a chili.

And that might be

about a third of your plate.

And then half of your plate

would be some form of vegetables.

Sautéed, in a salad, steamed.

And the other part

you want to be a whole grain.

Brown rice, black rice, wild rice,

quinoa, millet, bulgur.

You could have avocado, olives, right?

For healthy fats.

Use the oils,

use the spices that you already use,

when you're making plant-based foods.

It is very easy

to make the food taste delicious.

It looks like a garden.

It does, yeah. [chuckles]

[distant siren wailing]

[woman] The first time

I ever tried a tomato

that I grew myself, I was like,

"Wait, this is a whole other tomato."

Right.

"Like, it tastes different."

This is all poblano peppers.

Let's try some beans.

- [Jevon] How do we eat these?

- You just, like, eat it.

- The whole thing's good to eat?

- Yeah, you can eat it.

Except for, like, you know, the end.

It's just, like, fresh, you know?

[John] It is very fresh.

[woman and John laugh]

[woman] Those are all mustard greens.

- This is dinosaur kale.

- [Jevon] The texture is so interesting.

- So we could eat this?

- You could totally eat this.

- This is so cool. Just to, like

- [laughs]

- Like, just pick stuff and

- Right, it's like

This is like you're shopping

through the grocery store.

- [Danielle] List some favorite foods.

- Apricots.

- Cucumbers. Strawberries. I love salad.

- [Danielle] Cool.

- I'm a big salad fan.

- Beets.

[Jevon] Corn on the cob. Yams.

Perfect. I am, like,

thoroughly hungry now.

[all laugh]

[Danielle] What about

at a family gathering?

- Greens. Collard greens.

- [laughs]

- [Danielle] Okay. Okay.

- [twins laughing]

Now, what if I said to you,

what if you couldn't have

any of those ever again?

- [John] That would be devastating.

- That would be disappointing.

[people chattering]

[Tracye] The dietary guidelines

make it clear

that Americans should eat

more fruits and vegetables.

But what if you've been systematically

denied access to fruits and vegetables?

The majority of African Americans

are experiencing

the worst health outcomes, right,

because of food apartheid

in our communities.

[Cory] For communities

that are particularly marginalized,

because of that disinvestment,

you don't have supermarket chains

wanting to locate in those areas,

and access to healthy fresh foods

is very, very difficult to find.

[Tracye] So if we are living

in urban centers,

where most African Americans live

in the United States,

unless that area has been gentrified,

you're gonna find fast-food places,

you're gonna find corner stores.

[sizzling]

Foods we consume

in the Black community as soul food,

uh, it was the food

that our ancestors were compelled to eat.

It was the scraps, um,

from the sl*ve owner's table.

The chitlins, uh, the fried food.

Uh, all of the food

that they had to find creative ways

to make it tasteful for your palate,

uh, so that you could stay alive.

[woman] And that's how a cuisine evolved

around taking things

that might not necessarily be

the most nutritious

or even culturally relevant.

So, while I embrace the term "soul food,"

because, to me, that was the resilience

of my ancestors taking what they had,

fast-forward into the future,

that food might have

some of the taste profiles,

but it's processed grains

and processed meats

and those type of things that are now

causing a lot of health problems.

More African Americans

were dying of Covid than anyone else.

It's because 300,000 of us

were already dying a year

of preventable,

diet-related chronic diseases.

The death and disability

from eating this food continues

decade after decade after decade.

[woman] Detroit is a majority Black city.

And so how are we supposed

to survive as a people

when we can't get access

to fresh, affordable,

high-quality collard greens, right?

Like, collard greens

being so culturally significant

to our households.

Following years of divestment

because of the white flight,

because of the collapse

of the automobile industry,

about 30% of Detroit's land is vacant.

[bright instrumental music playing]

So we grew food because we had to,

out of survival.

Gardens popping up everywhere.

Vacant lots, people's backyards,

people's front yards,

windowsills, rooftops.

Wherever you could

get access to grow food,

that's what happened.

Here at D-Town Farm,

we unapologetically focus

on culturally relevant crops

because this is what our people eat.

So, okra and collard greens

and watermelon and callaloo

and other foods.

[Tracye] The fastest growing

plant-based demographic in the country,

African Americans.

[Nezaa] I think of it

as a return to ancestral memory.

It's a part of our evolution.

Like, we evolved with these plants.

Part of us reclaiming plants in our diet,

and it's part of reaching to those things

that's going to help to protect us

against modern diseases and viruses

and all those type of things.

[Shakara] We consider this whole process

of land reclamation

to be a process of alchemy.

It's a transformation

of something that is minimal

into something

that is maximum and abundant.

[bright instrumental music continues]

[people chattering]

[people laughing]

[music fading]

[Pam] Where's the knife? Uh, there we go.

- [Wendy] What did you put? Garlic and

- Uh, garlic, cilantro, salt. That's it.

- Yeah?

- Yeah.

- Ooh, smells nice.

- Uh, and onions.

I was always mindful

of the kind of meat that I eat, um,

and, you know, the eggs that I purchase.

And I would tell Wendy, like,

I'd rather pay more to buy free-range eggs

than, you know, buy the cheaper eggs.

Then I would say, "You know what?"

"Instead of eating steak once a week,

let's eat steak once a month

because it impacts the environment."

Just gonna warm it up.

I'm reading up on a lot of what goes on

in animal farming, fish farming.

In South Africa,

all our fish was actually

- Were caught.

- Were caught.

Very much the same way

that the meat and dairy companies

have sort of controlled the idea

of the American farmer,

you have the idea of a fisherman,

of a pole with a line

and a little hook on the end.

And you have an idea of the fish

who's swimming freely

and gets caught by this hook

and has a sort of graceful end

to their life.

But the truth could not be more different.

[seagulls squawking]

Truth is that 75%

of the global catch right now,

which is about 100 million tons,

a little more,

is caught by industrial fisheries.

It's massive nets

that sweep through and catch everything

in very unselective ways.

[tense ambient music playing]

There's also this issue of bycatch.

Other animals that are caught

and rarely accounted for.

[tense ambient music continues]

And there are 45,000 factory fishing boats

in operation around the world.

We are consuming wildlife from the ocean

on a scale that is unprecedented.

It's causing the elimination

not of just individual species

but whole ecosystems.

[Jennifer] A recent study has shown

that 82% of global fish populations

are depleted.

Fish farming offered a lot of promise.

They said, "We're going to farm fish,

and we're going to solve overfishing

because we'll create all these farm fish,

so consumers

don't have to buy the wild stuff."

[man] My name's Don Staniford.

I'm the director of Scamon Scotland

and campaign against salmon farming

not just in Scotland but around the world.

By the looks of it there,

tens of thousands farmed salmon

crammed in cages.

Maybe half a million,

a million fish on this site.

So wherever salmon farms go,

they're leaving

a lasting legacy of pollution

and pushing wild fish to extinction.

The king of fish

is the wild, majestic salmon.

Swims thousands of miles,

leaps up waterfalls.

If you look at a supermarket 50 years ago,

it was all wild fish.

It was all wild salmon.

Today, more than 50% of fish

in supermarkets globally is farmed.

There's farm-raised salmon,

and then there's wild-caught.

What's the difference?

- [birds squawking]

- [Big Ben tolls]

[Wendy] So, this is gonna be

an interesting excursion.

- [Pam] Yes.

- [Wendy laughs]

[Wendy] Pam and I went to the UK

to learn everything there is to know

about farmed salmon.

- [woman] Hello.

- [Pam] Hi.

[Wendy] As a chef, I want to know

what I'm feeding my customers.

Billingsgate Market in London

is an iconic, historic place.

It's supposed to serve

the best fish that the UK has to offer.

[Wendy] Looking for fresh.

- [Pam] You want fresh?

- [Wendy] Yeah.

- Do you have fresh salmon?

- [man] Salmon?

- Yeah, I'm trying to make a

- [man] Nice fresh one, yeah?

- [Wendy] Fresh?

- I wanna do a barbecue.

[man] Yeah, it's fresh.

And it's Is it wild

Is it, uh, wild-caught?

- Wild-caught, yeah?

- [man] Yes. It's raised in wild.

- [Wendy] What do you mean

- [man] Yeah, it's raised in the sea.

[Wendy] What does he mean "wild farm"?

[woman] Like, have you ever gutted a fish

and seen little fish and prawns inside it?

- I've never gutted a fish.

- [woman] Right.

Wild fish, you will find prawns

and baby fish and everything in there.

And farmed,

they're a bit cleaner, actually.

That's complete and utter bollocks.

I think if people realized

the full horrors behind salmon farming,

they would avoid it

like the proverbial plague.

[tense ambient music playing]

[woman] A salmon farm is

approximately the size

of a football field.

It's a series of nets.

And they pour in

hundreds of thousands of fish.

But they're the only farmers in the world

that never shovel their manure.

The sheer amount of waste,

in the order of tons per day,

is pouring out of these farms.

And because they're feedlots,

growing fish as fast as they can,

you know, as quickly as possible,

on a very unnatural diet,

disease just spreads incredibly rapidly,

whether it's parasites

viruses,

bacteria.

When I first began studying viruses

in salmon farms,

of course I couldn't go to the farms,

so I went to the supermarkets.

The fish they were selling

in the supermarkets were deformed,

they had big sores on them.

Over 98% of the samples

that I bought in supermarkets

and in sushi restaurants

were infected

with this piscine orthoreovirus,

this salmon blood virus.

People tell me that the viruses

in the fish can't affect humans,

but there has been no research on this.

And so all the pathogens

are leaving the farm too.

Wild salmon that used to come

into these beautiful, pristine little bays

were now literally swimming

into clouds of waste.

Excrement. Pathogens.

And so they were dying.

The destruction of wild salmon populations

that live near salmon farms

can be over 50%.

Wild salmon are a keystone species,

and their disappearance

has a devastating effect

on local economies

and the surrounding ecosystems.

[eagle calls]

There is nowhere in the world

that this industry has existed

that wild salmon have persisted. Nowhere.

[tense ambient music continues]

[music fades]

[Don] Towards the end

of the farming of salmon,

they can add this dye.

So the salmon farmers

use this as a color guide.

[Pam] Oh, wow.

[Don] Consumer research has shown

that people pay more for redder salmon.

So these salmon-farm companies

are trying to mask the color,

hide the fact that it's farmed,

and and ape and copy the pink,

the red flesh of the wild salmon.

- [man] Look how nice and red inside.

- Yeah.

[man] You're guaranteed to get a decent

color and a decent quality of fish.

Not only it's an artificial color,

it's been linked to human health problems.

- So some of this is, like, 20% fat.

- [Pam] Mm-hmm.

[Don] You can see the white lines.

The fat content of farmed salmon

can be over three times higher

than wild salmon.

It's like looking at Usain Bolt,

the athlete,

compared to some couch potato

who just sits there all day.

So this product is marketed as healthy,

it's marketed as responsible,

yet it's fattier than pizza,

it's fattier than bacon.

If you cook farmed salmon,

it's got so much fat,

you don't even need oil in the pan.

[Wendy] Look at that.

When I press it, oil's just oozing out.

[Don] And that's not good oils either.

That's omega-6s.

[woman] Because of the feed ingredients,

the fat will contain

fat soluble contaminants.

Those are the some of the pesticides.

Uh, dioxin, PCB, DDT.

And due to the high level of fat

contained in farmed salmon,

the contamination was higher

than what we found, uh, in the wild

all of wild seafood.

[sizzling]

The primary concern is cancer.

There's also metabolic disorders,

such as diabetes.

I can't feed that to my customers.

This is not supposed to happen.

It should be nice and solid.

[Don] I don't think

I'd like to eat either of those.

[Wendy] Of course not.

I mean, you can't eat diseased food.

[Don] So when you get farmed salmon,

you're not getting a bargain,

you're getting a health disaster,

an environmental disaster.

[unsettling ambient music playing]

It's basically elevated my disgust

for farmed salmon.

[unsettling ambient music continues]

- [music fades]

- [leaves tearing]

go outside and take care of it.

The cooking in the second half has been,

for me, really comfortable. Convenient.

- [Michael] I love the color and crunch.

- You dice it? I thought just thin slices?

[Michael] Yeah, it would just be ribbon

and then thrown into the salad.

Adds a little crunch and color.

[birds chirping]

One thing I was surprised by

over the course of the study

was how I just became inclined

to make these, like,

crudité, like, vegetable snacks.

'Cause, previously,

you know, I was so lazy.

I'd just reach into the fridge

and just grab a block of cheese,

some crackers, or some chips and salsa.

[child] I just want a little.

[Charlie] The cooking's been great

because we were making Korean rice bowls.

Then we were layering with pickled items.

I say "we" because my wife and I

kinda teamed up on it.

Grill this, grill that.

Toast buns.

Today, for the omnivore meal,

I'm gonna make a hamburger.

On top of that,

I'm putting some Gruyère cheese,

sauerkraut, some pickles,

tomato, and some purple onions.

It's gonna be a tall burger.

I'm going to make a veggie burger

with portobello mushroom.

We have so many tomatoes,

so I'm gonna make a caprese

without the mozzarella.

- [Michael] That salad looks great. Yeah.

- Look at the size of these!

We could have

the world's biggest caprese salad.

[humming]

[Charlie] Changing itself is hard,

but we also live in a culture

where there's a lot of meat products

or animal products in food.

So, like, one of the hardest things for me

was going to stores or restaurants

and being like, "Excuse me, I'm so sorry,

but does this have any butter in it?"

It's making me realize

how challenging it is,

for multiple reasons,

to switch to a vegan diet.

- [Michael] You got your vegan cheese.

- [Charlie] I don't think I'm gonna do it.

Provolone.

Okay. I don't even know how they

Oh, it says "provolone-style."

- Very small print.

- Yes.

[Charlie] Try it.

It can't be worse than a Kraft Single.

Well, they nailed the color.

Yeah, that's true.

[Miyoko] Taste is so important.

Food is not just to nourish the body,

food nourishes the soul.

In order to do so,

you have to romance people.

It has to be a language of love.

It has to be something

that makes people go,

"Oh my God, I can't wait

to get a fork and dig into that."

Come on, guys. It's time to go to work.

Come on in. Let's go.

I got into the business

of making vegan cheese

because it was the last thing

that I was able to give up

when I transitioned to vegan.

There are still the Kraft Single-type

of vegan cheese

out there in the marketplace,

but I don't think

that's gonna woo anybody.

I started Miyoko's Kitchen

really because I wanted to prove

that amazing vegan cheese

was indeed possible

that was rooted

in the flavors of tradition

but made from completely new,

innovative ingredients.

You can make cheese

out of all sorts of things

and provide the textural

and flavor profiles of cheese.

Cashews are an incredibly

environmentally friendly crop,

so we have used cashew nuts

since the very beginning.

Dairy cheese takes

800 to 1,000 gallons of water

for one pound of cheese.

To make our cashew cheese,

it takes about one quart

to three or four quarts.

That's about it.

What I tried to do was create a technology

that was a marriage

between traditional cheese-making,

using things like fermentation,

brining, aging,

inoculating with enzymes, yeast, etc.

to create a whole array of cheeses.

Yeah, let's take a look.

Oh, these are looking good.

We know how dairy behaves,

but we didn't know

how a sort of cashew base would behave

when it's exposed

to certain degrees of heat

or various combinations

with other ingredients.

The fact is

no one had ever done it before,

so in some ways I could say,

"Hey, we're writing the book

on making cheese out of cashews."

Let's just check this out.

Oh yeah. It's aging nicely.

Little crystal formations are beginning.

I wanted a cheese

that would truly impress.

Sorta like the Tesla model.

You launch with a sexy, high-end product,

capture people's imagination,

and then they're hooked.

[distant siren wailing]

[wings fluttering]

[sounds of traffic]

[man] There's pickled kohlrabi

in between the layers,

and then there's shiitake mushrooms

that are confited,

and then the morels

that have just been quickly sautéed

with a little bit of, uh, shallot butter.

[Daniel] I read a report

where it said, by 2050,

we will need three planets

if we continue to eat the way we eat.

I think, because Eleven Madison Park

had won all these awards,

because we are in New York City,

because our restaurant was famous,

there were very few places in the world

that could move the needle

as much as we could

towards eating plant-based.

I think the basil is sort of a surprising,

really beautiful aspect.

So if we would make that statement,

that would really, I think, send a signal.

You know, we had meat suppliers

reaching out to us

in really hateful language,

saying, "You're gonna regret this.

You're gonna fail."

"And if you're gonna have

to serve meat again,

I will never deliver meat

to you guys again."

I mean, it was, like, pretty harsh.

Unfortunately, the perception

is still that a piece of meat

is worth more than artichokes or beets.

So I think that has to shift.

So, like, if we can elevate

some of these ingredients,

then there must be value to it.

When you take a bite of something,

within three seconds,

you know, "This is delicious."

I care a lot about aesthetics,

and what I'm going for

is sort of this minimal

and effortless beauty.

I feel that our food

has to push certain boundaries,

but before the reopening,

there were fears.

I was fully prepared

to lose all of our stars.

They're still charging $335

for each person

to dine at this restaurant.

So it's, "How comfortable are we

paying this much for vegetables?"

[dramatic string music playing]

[Daniel] This hasn't been done before.

And there was no return back.

[dramatic string music continues]

[string music fades]

[Nimai] Wow, look at you all.

[woman] I can see differences

just looking at you.

Everybody feeling good?

- [Jevon] Yeah.

- [Wendy] Yeah.

- [Rosalyn] No.

- No?

- Oh, now you, yeah.

- Who's nervous? Anybody a little nervous?

Yeah? So pretty much everybody

but John and Jevon.

- Yeah.

- But look at them.

[Nimai] It is week eight.

We're gonna take

the final assessment times

for each one of the twins

We'll take you through

a quick warm up like last time,

so if you just wanna set your stuff down.

and then compare how much

they were able to improve their time

from the original baseline test.

This is round two

of the fitness assessment,

starting in three, two, one. Let's go.

Two, three, four

This is something that I personally

wanted to know for so long.

If somebody followed

the exact same training program,

but you gave them

different sources of fuel,

how would your body respond?

Twenty. All right, ten push-ups.

Will the plant-based twin

see better results?

Will the omnivorous twin

see better results?

- Ten sprints.

- [Bianca] Ten sprints.

- [Nimai] Let's go, let's go.

- [group cheering]

[Nimai] All right. One, two, three

[group] Twinning!

We're at week eight. This is it.

Twenty-one pairs have made it,

and we now get to find out

what were the fruits

of all their dietary labors.

There are significantly

different results already

between the vegan and omnivore groups.

[man] So 91.

- [Charlie] So I'm 84, you're 91?

- Yeah.

- That seems significant.

- [man] Omnivore.

- Yeah.

- [man] Right?

[automated voice]

We are going to do the same thing again.

Twins share the same DNA,

and so what is different?

It's primarily the food.

And so it's really exciting

to have twin studies

because we get to see

that it's about your greens,

not your genes.

But, much to my surprise,

something else was discovered.

[heart thumping]

[gentle electronic music playing]