05x08 - Graves Concern

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- [sharp pop]
- ALEX: Did you feel that?

ERIK:
What the hell was that noise?

THOMAS: Something's broke
inside the mesa.

ALEX:
Oh, that's not good.

Travis, hey, I've got eyes
on a descending light.

Are you seeing this?

THOMAS:
Descending light?

ERIK:
I honest to God

don't know what
I'm looking at here.

Lasers coming on.

We are hitting something
with the laser.

What are we hitting?

TIM:
Some sort of mass.

PETE:
This is one of

the terrestrial
laser scans we did.

Can you look up?
It does go into a cone.

KALEB:
Oh, look at that.

TRAVIS:
We're all inside a cone.

NARRATOR: There is
a ranch in Northern Utah.

It is considered the epicenter

of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:

animal mutilations,

bizarre UFO sightings

and unusual energies that
have proven harmful to humans.

For 20 years, the
federal government

tried to find
answers and failed.

Now a new team of
dedicated scientists,

researchers and
experts has taken over.

They are determined to
solve the mystery and reveal...

The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.

Roosevelt Traffic helicopter


three mile final runway 2-5.

TRAVIS: This morning,
Erik Bard, Cameron Fugal,

Thomas Winterton,
Dragon and myself

traveled about
ten miles northwest

of Skinwalker Ranch
to Roosevelt Airport.

ERIK: Hey there, Kendra.

KENDRA: Hey, hey. Hello, hello.

Got out here all
right then, huh?

I guess so. Looks
like you did, too.

- TRAVIS: Cool-looking airplane.
- Well, thank you.

- TRAVIS: Cool-looking airplane.
- Well, thank you.

TRAVIS: There we met up with
pilots Kendra Hart and Sam Davis

to prepare for a new experiment
after making what could be

a major discovery last week.

Well, we ready for this day?

Yeah, we're excited.

TRAVIS: Using an
infrared lidar scanner,

we detected a 2,000-foot-high

cone-shaped anomaly that
was centered above the triangle

and had a base that
was about a mile wide,

stretching all the way
from Homestead Two

over to the east field.

These are three main
areas where we've seen

a ton of phenomena,
including UAPs...

That's a communication
signal or something.

Inexplicable energy signals...

and even invisible
objects at various altitudes

that have blocked laser beams

and also deflected
and destroyed rockets.

So, why are we back here today?

- What are we looking for and hoping to find?
- CAMERON: Great question.

We've got something going on

in a very interesting region in
the airspace above the ranch.

And so, there may be
something physical there

that we'll be able to see if
we put smoke into that space.

We want you to go


and then circle
in a wide pattern

and then spiral down,
running smoke, uh, behind you,

- and we'll see how that all turns out.
- Awesome.

TRAVIS: Our plan today
is to have Kendra and Sam

fly their specialized
Pitts 2B airplane

nearly a mile above the triangle
and also at lower altitudes.

They'll be performing
a series of maneuvers

while emitting
thick trails of smoke

that will blanket
the entire area.

The hope is that the
smoke will make contact

with the anomaly and not
only confirm its presence

but also its size.

Once we know
those things for sure,

we can then work to figure out

what it is, and how it
may be connected to

all the strange
things we've seen

in that area on the ranch.

Having you both and myself
with eyes on... on each other there,

we should keep this
thing running properly.

- Perfect.
- ERIK: You know,

once we begin this experiment,

the plane itself becomes
a scientific instrument.

It's part of the study.

So, anything unusual
happening with the plane itself,

uh, whether it's
electronic or mechanical,

- we're especially interested in knowing that.
- KENDRA: Sounds good.

BRYANT: We're really
grateful that you're gonna

come out and do this,
but we want to make sure

that you guys remember
that your health and safety is

first and foremost.

So if you feel off at all,

or you have any kind
of equipment malfunction

or something like
that, please feel free

to just abort the mission.

There's nothing worth
your health and safety at all

- when it comes to this investigation.
- CAMERON: Good point.

Any one of us can call
this, and we'll peel off

at that point and
get out of the area.

TRAVIS: We've got a lot
to do. I've got to get back

and get all the instruments
set up at the triangle.

I say let's get
back to the ranch,

- and then let's get going.
- Looking forward to this, guys.

- Thank you.
- Can't wait to see you guys in the air.

KENDRA: Sounds good. Thanks.

TRAVIS: All right, looks
like Cameron's in position.

Later that morning,
while we were waiting

for Kendra and Sam
to fly over to the ranch,

we set up a monitoring
station near the triangle

with a high-speed
camera that'll be taking

hundreds of frames per second
during the aerial experiment.

We also had multiple
antennas attached

to our spectrum
analyzers to look out for

any strange signals
or frequencies,

which we often detect out here

from sources that
we have yet to identify.

Meanwhile, Erik
Bard was stationed

in the command center

monitoring his own
spectrum analyzer,

as well as a number
of surveillance cameras.

Sounds like
Kendra's on approach.

We're gonna paint that airspace
over the ranch with smoke

and watch for any abnormal,

unnatural patterns in
how that smoke moves.

If in fact we have
something that is affecting

the movement of the
smoke, it is entirely possible

that RF signals
could be affected.

We're going to be studying
that during this exercise,

as well as deploying
high-speed video equipment,

and I think that's what we're
interested in looking at here.

TRAVIS: To have an
extra set of eyes in the air

and help communicate
with Kendra and Sam,

Cameron was hovering
around 2,000 feet high

but safely out of
the triangle airspace.

We'll give you a cue.
We'll be calling out smoke.

KALEB: 10-4, Cameron.

Holy crap, look at this!

Hey, be advised.

We're picking up a
signal right on top of 1.6.

And we're only detecting it
on the skyward-facing antenna,

right above the triangle area.

Isn't that weird?

Hey, thanks for that
heads-up. I'll check it out.

TRAVIS: All I could think
was, "Here we go again."

Right after Cameron alerted us

that Kendra's plane
was approaching,

my spectrum analyzer detected

a strange radio frequency
signal at 1.6 gigahertz

coming from right
above the triangle.

We've detected this
many times on the ranch,

including last week
when we captured images

of that huge
cone-shaped anomaly.

So, I couldn't wait to
see what would happen

once Kendra and Sam started

painting the whole
region with smoke.

KALEB: She's right there,
coming overhead right now.

TRAVIS: Yeah, here she comes!

TRAVIS: She's popping smoke.

That ain't enough smoke to see!

I'm surprised.

I mean, there's not even
enough smoke to see the trail.

I wonder if there's
something wrong.

That's not at all
what I was expecting.

Yeah, Cameron, I-I did not
get a visual on the smoke at all.

THOMAS: Right off the bat,
when Kendra went to emit smoke,

nothing came out.

We only saw a few small,
wispy puffs of smoke.

Again, I'm wondering,
you know, is this the ranch

that's interfering with it
or is it something else?

She's circling above us.

TRAVIS: She's not
putting out much smoke.

It was really frustrating that
hardly any smoke was coming

out of the plane, which we hoped

might better identify the
cone-shaped anomaly.

It's become a recurring
problem that a lot of tested

and otherwise functioning tech

simply won't work for
some strange reason

when we try to use it
on Skinwalker Ranch.

So, the big question today was:

Why wasn't Kendra
and Sam's smoke system

working correctly
above the triangle?

Oh.

KENDRA: It just clicked
off again for the second time.

ERIK: What the hell?

Wow.

I'm getting word
that there are issues

with the smoke release system.

And now we have the
issues with the alternator,

an important electrical
component on the plane.

If that alternator were to fail,

it could be a problem.

This is concerning.

Kendra, what do you want to do?

Do you want to get
back to Roosevelt

with that alternator acting up?

Cameron, it really bothers me.

We're seeing a lot of strange
signals and things here

coming from above the triangle.

And if the alternator's
not working,

I'm worried about her safety.

If she needs to go back,
you tell her to go back.

We'd just started our
experiment high above the triangle

when pilots Kendra
Hart and Sam Davis

began having numerous
mechanical problems with their aircraft.

And at the same time,

the antenna connected
to my spectrum analyzer

was detecting a radio
frequency signal at 1.6 gigahertz

coming from that same area.

We couldn't be
sure if these things

were connected to one another,

but in the past, when
we've detected signals

at 1.6 gigahertz,

we've experienced other
phenomena, including UAPs.

Her oil temperature,

fluctuating when
they were over us.

- Really?
- [indistinct radio chatter]

KENDRA: See, so it's
just moving around a lot.

Yeah, that could
be an electrical, uh,

interference problem as well.

Which, again, is
typical for this place.

Good call. Safety first.

CAMERON: Sounds great.
We'll get you back to the airport.

TRAVIS: We had no
way of being certain

if the plane's malfunctions

had anything to do with
the 1.6 gigahertz signal

coming from the triangle

or some other kind of phenomena,

but it was definitely
right for Kendra and Sam

to make the short
flight back to Roosevelt

for a safety inspection.

- SAM: All right, here we go.
- KENDRA: Wahoo.

TRAVIS: We still collected data

and had high-speed
camera images to process.

CAMERON: All right,
just setting down here.

TRAVIS: But we also wanted
to meet back up with them

as soon as possible

to get their take

on what they experienced
over the ranch today.

SAM: Just in time.

- It's good to see you back on the ground.
- Wow.

- KENDRA: Y'all as well.
- Glad to have you back.

Thanks. [chuckles]
Glad to be back.

- What an experiment today, huh? What a flight.
- Yeah.

What in the world
happened to the smoke?

KENDRA: You know, your
guess is as good as ours.

We tested it before we
came. We tested it last night.

The tank is full.

Go to switch it on,
and it sounds like

the most we were
getting were little puffs.

We didn't see
anything out the back.

That's all... we
could barely see it,

just for... looked like
little puffs coming out of it.

Never was a line
like you'd expect.

- Okay, so yeah.
- Wow.

I know you tested
it, we talked about it,

and what I'm so concerned about

is the alternator, the
electrical issues you had.

And that's to say nothing
of all that crazy stuff

- we saw in the RF, on the spectrum analyzer.
- TRAVIS: Yeah, that's right.

Did you guys notice
anything other than, uh,

the equipment malfunctions?

We had some oil
temperature fluctuations,

which normally, the airplane,
it's very, very accurate

within a couple degrees.

- How much did it change?
- It was changing 25, 30 degrees.

- Wow.
- Wow.

SAM: Within seconds,
just bouncing up and down.

That could just about blow
the engine or something, right?

And as soon as we
started heading back, it...

it stayed steady at 215 degrees.

It went away when you're
not over the triangle, right?

- Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
- That's crazy.

So, we appreciate
you coming out again.

You have been
amazing to work with.

Any chance you'd come back

and want to fly over
the ranch again?

Yeah, absolutely. Thanks,
guys. You're great to work with.

- Absolutely.
- Awesome.

ERIK: All right, thanks
for working with us.

SAM: Thanks. Yeah, you, too.

We'll stay in touch.

TRAVIS: What's going on, fellas?

I-I'm bringing up some
of the data that we've, uh,

recently acquired
from the Pitts plane.

- All right.
- Great.

Later that night, Erik called
us into the command center

after he had processed all
the high-speed camera images

that were collected earlier
today during the experiment.

I've got some footage that shows
the helicopter passing overhead.

I'll stop there, and we'll see
what you guys make of it.

This is a video recording
taken from ground level

right at the triangle,
looking up at the aircraft.

So I'm going to play
this at its native speed.

This thing is running at


You can clearly see the rotors
in motion on the helicopter.

You know, flying
right over the triangle.

Wait a minute.

- There's a black spot, right there.
- ERIK: Mm-hmm.

That's the one.

Let's take a look at this thing.

TRAVIS: Oh, I do see it.

ERIK: Let me take it
back to the beginning.

We'll see this come into frame.

TRAVIS: This is at


so it's moving pretty fast.

ERIK: This thing's got
to be moving really fast.

So, I guess the first thing
we've got to rule out would be:

- Is it a bug?
- Mm-hmm.

TRAVIS: That's about 20
pixels when you measure across

- whatever that size is?
- ERIK: Thereabouts, yeah.

That's tiny. That's like the
thickness of a piece of paper.

So it's not on the lens.

Whatever it is, that size
cannot be... it's not on the lens.

So, I think it's out there.

- The other interesting thing about this, though...
- TRAVIS: Well, look.

ERIK: is that it doesn't
move in just one direction.

- You want me to play it at normal speed?
- Yeah, play it normal speed.

ERIK: Watch this.

Notice how this thing
literally seems to stop

right at the edge.

TRAVIS: Right at the
dadgum helicopter blades.

Look, it got about
to the helicopter

and then starts
moving away from it.

Gonna go back to its native
speed. Watch carefully.

KALEB: Almost as if
it's meandering around.

- TRAVIS: Yeah. Yeah.
- KALEB: Kind of checking out the helicopter almost.

ERIK: It sure looks
that way, doesn't it?

- What?
- What are the chances?

TRAVIS: This UAP maneuvered
around Cameron's helicopter

like it was trying
to monitor it.

What in the world was it?

Could it have been the source
of that 1.6 gigahertz signal?

And was it also connected

to all of Kendra and
Sam's plane malfunctions?

Well, here's the thing. Why
did nobody else see this?

Is it moving so fast

that we just didn't
notice it with the eye?

So, then, the question is:
What are we dealing with?

That's-that's the big question.

What are we dealing with?

So if we've interpreted
this properly,

not only are we
looking at great speed

but we're looking at maneuvers
being ex*cuted at great speed.

TRAVIS: So, we
need to figure this out.

We-we got to figure
out the right way

to probe the region
directly above the triangle.

All right. Well, great
discussion, guys.

- I-I appreciate it as always.
- Great stuff, Erik.

- KALEB: Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
- Yeah, man.

TRAVIS: You've clearly found
something in there, though.

THOMAS: Well, I
appreciate the fact

that even though there's
been some challenges,

these guys have stuck with it.

- Absolutely.
- Overcome some-some obstacles,

literally speaking,

and are ready to
get back at it again.

TRAVIS: While we worked
on plans for a new investigation

at the triangle, we
checked in at the mesa,

located about a quarter
of a mile to the west,

where another operation has
been underway for several weeks.

So you're about to
fire it up now, then?

Everything's fixed, ready to go.

TRAVIS: According to numerous
ground-penetrating radar scans,

there appears to
be a 400-foot-long,

dome-shaped object and
numerous smaller anomalies

around it, buried
deep inside the mesa.

Two previous drilling
operations in recent years

could not penetrate it.

But metallic fragments
were found in the spoils

that proved to be made of
the same kinds of materials

that NASA uses on the
surface of spacecraft.

So, for the last three weeks,

the team from Mark
Construction Drilling

has been using a
much more powerful drill

than we've ever used before.

They'll drill the first
of two boreholes

all the way through the mesa

that will surround
these anomalies.

This will allow us to insert a
number of scanning devices

to better identify
what these things are

and plan for how to
finally uncover them.

Any idea what caused
it to snap to start with?

Uh, it was a pretty... it
was a pretty rough spot.

We went through it really slow

and just kind of let
the-the bit do its work.

TRAVIS: Last week,
even with this new team's

much more powerful rig,

- the drill rod snapped into pieces...
- [sharp pop]

- Did you feel that?
- Yeah.

TRAVIS: a little over


after possibly making contact
with one of these anomalies.

Everything good down there, bud?

No, I'm pretty sure
we just broke off.

So after retrieving
the broken drill rod,

hopefully they'll
have better luck

in helping us figure out
what's really inside there.

We're already back, and we're
past the spot where we snapped.

THOMAS: I'm, uh,
super encouraged.

They're exactly
where we need to be.

If things keep trending
the way they are,

they're gonna get us a
beautiful cross section

right across whatever that
object is there in the hill.

Gonna be perfect positioning
to-to be able to go in there

and do further analysis
and allow us to get

a better picture of
what might be in there.

- I know that's what we all want to hear.
- TRAVIS: Heck yeah.

That's great.

Well, let's get moving.

- Good luck, guys.
- THOMAS: Thank you.

TRAVIS: The drilling operation

was going to take several
days to be completed.

So, after we left the drillers
to keep up the hard work...

later that day...

ERIK: Well, welcome
to the ranch, Ryan.

Thanks for having
me. Excited to be here.

- ERIK: Welcome back, Jay.
- Thank you.

TRAVIS: we met with two very
special guests in the command center:

Jay Stratton, my former
boss on the UAP Task Force,

who also oversaw Robert
Bigelow's investigation

of the ranch back
in the early 2000s,

and Ryan Graves,
a former Navy pilot,

who recently testified
before Congress

as a UAP whistleblower.

Given all the UAP sightings
that we've had on the ranch,

including the one we saw
near Cameron Fugal's helicopter

above the triangle
the other day,

ranch owner Brandon Fugal
arranged for Jay to come back

and bring Ryan Graves with him.

We wanted him to assess
some of our documented sightings

because he now helps operate
a UAP research organization

in the private sector known as
Americans for Safe Aerospace.

We're real interested
in what your interest is

in Skinwalker Ranch, and we
want to show you some things

and get your perspective
on it, and of course,

we're very interested
in, you know, uh,

the events that-that you've
been through in-in your career.

So we can determine if
we've seen similar events

that compares to
what you've seen.

Yeah, well, I'd be
happy to share that.

I was a former F-18 pilot in
the U.S. Navy for 11 years.

And during that time,

we were running into UAP

or what's commonly
known as UFOs.

We didn't know what they were.

We didn't know
where they came from.

And we didn't know
what their intent was.

There was no way
to report these issues.

And so about a
year ago, we started

Americans for Safe Aerospace

as a way of engaging
with pilots in order to

get to the bottom of
what pilots are seeing

and to also provide
them with the mechanisms

to be able to
report these issues.

This caught the attention,
uh, of members of Congress.

In July 2023, I was invited
to testify before Congress

about the reality of UAP,
and I was there to represent

my story and also
represent the issues

that commercial and
military pilots have been

dealing with when seeing
objects while they're flying.

If we can learn something
here at the ranch that allows us

to-to translate that
to-to aviation safety,

then I'm all for it.

That's why I'm here.

So, Ryan, why don't you tell us

a-a little bit more,
like, in details,

- like, the events where you saw something.
- RYAN: Certainly.

So we were operating off
the coast of Virginia Beach,

and the squadron I
was in... VFA 11... uh,

it was a Super Hornet
squadron, and we would be flying

off the coast on
a regular basis.

And when we would
fly out to those areas,

we would go out there
with one jet, two jet, four jets,

eight jets perhaps, and
we started seeing objects

on our radar, uh, that we
didn't know what they were.

Now, at first, we were like,

"All right, let's go figure
out what these are," right?

So we would get them
on a radar, we'd get closer,

we'd start to see them
on our camera systems,

and we'd slow down
trying to get as close

to this object as
we can, you know,

not to exceed our safety bubble.

And we would come
up within 500 feet,

and we're not able to
visually pick out this object.

So you could see them in
your equipment but not with the,

- with the human eye?
- Correct.

- We've seen that before, right?
- ERIK: Yes.

RYAN: And that's why
I'm interested to be here

because you guys are
doing scientific work.

You guys are seeing
strange things here.

I mean, that would be an
incredible thing if we can

find similarities, both what
pilots have been seeing

at high altitudes or within
our operating airspace

and finding those same
things happening here,

because this would
potentially provide a lab

to study it in a more
controlled manner.

I've always felt that
it's, if not a laboratory,

it's certainly an observatory.

That there's a
lot going on here.

There seems to be a nexus of

a lot of very different
kinds of phenomenology.

UAPs apparently
being one of them.

Several examples of which
we're gonna share with you.

Love to get your thoughts on it.

Here is some
footage that I found

just absolutely fascinating.

You're seeing high-speed
footage, 240 frames per second.

And you see the
helicopter above the,

the area that we
refer to as the triangle.

Now, I want to draw your
attention to something

that enters the
field of view here.

RYAN: How do you interpret that?

ERIK: This is not a bird.

- This is not a drone.
- TRAVIS: It's not a bug.

ERIK: Not a bug.

It's clearly not on the
lens, whatever it is.

And check this out.

Erik and I sat here and
said, "Whoa, it's gonna go

"behind the helicopter blades
so we'll get to know how...

at least how far away the
minimum is on it, right?"

ERIK: So I'm gonna play
through it at normal speed.

TRAVIS: So right there.

And it's playing with us, right?

And it turns and
goes the other way.

So that we can't get that data.

- RYAN: Wow.
- ERIK: So let's view this

with, uh, a type of enhancement

that sometimes helps
us bring out the details.

Here's an emboss filter.

You know, as this thing
approaches the-the aircraft.

TRAVIS: It certainly doesn't
seem random, does it?

RYAN: And it seems to be
just navigating of its own accord.

That is an
interesting statement.

"Navigating... on
its own accord."

RYAN: It seems to be just
navigating of its own accord.

It certainly doesn't
seem random, does it?

That is an
interesting statement.

"Navigating... on
its own accord."

RYAN: It looked like what
we see: no propulsion,

no wings...

- Yep.
- Uh, no IR energy

sh**ting an
exhaust out the back.

TRAVIS: Comparing the UAP
encounters of former Navy pilot

Ryan Graves with
what we've witnessed

on Skinwalker Ranch
was fascinating.

It just confirms that we're
dealing with phenomena out here

that our own military has
been at a loss to identify

in different locations
all across the U.S.

and the world.

What's out there is something

we still don't
understand what it is.

And the same issue
within the military is

within the commercial world:
no one wants to talk about it.

And once they start sharing
the stories with each other,

they all of a sudden realize
that there is something going on

that many of them are seeing.

This one particular day, we
launched out on this flight,

and we did not
get any radar data.

Uh, we did not receive any
notification that this object

were in front of our aircraft,
but as soon as we entered

the working area, the
two aircraft were coming

right through one
of these objects.

One of these objects went
right between the two aircraft.

The lead aircraft was slightly
closer to them, about 50 feet.

And they described it as
a dark gray or a black cube

inside of a clear sphere.

They were able to
estimate it to be about five

to 15 feet in diameter.

ERIK: Oh.

Okay.

ERIK: Uh, so I'd
like to share an event

that took place while we
were attempting to do some...

some work with a drone swarm

as part of a, kind of a
spatial mapping exercise

out in the east
field canyon area.

KALEB: We got
something right there.

TRAVIS: Yeah, it is!
That's it right there!

Back in 2022, as
we were conducting

a drone swarm
experiment in the east field,

a UAP that looked very much

like what Ryan
Graves just described

appeared in the sky
for several seconds...

It just disappeared.

Before vanishing into thin air.

We had no idea what it was,
but it looked like a possible

nuts-and-bolts
craft of some kind.

ERIK: So, um...

this was not movement
consistent with,

say, a satellite or an aircraft.

- You don't see a strobe.
- RYAN: Wow.

TRAVIS: And we got
several pictures of it

with, uh, cell phones
and other cameras.

Uh, Erik, I don't know
which one you got,

but go ahead and bring that up.

RYAN: Wow.

TRAVIS: Every one of them
shows it as a sphere with a,

a black dot in the middle.

And we had a good
enough picture of it

that I could go forward and
make a three-dimensional model of.

ERIK: I'm gonna bring that up.

TRAVIS: You'll see the interior's
held together by a cylinder.

RYAN: That's incredible.

We've seen... over


we're seeing are
spherical in nature.

My good friends
in the S Squadron,

they were actually able
to capture the object.

We saw it on their FLIR system.

They were actually able
to break out a sphere

with a cube in it as well.

- Wow.
- They were able to see the actual,

you know, spherical structure.

Wow, I did not
know that statistic.

- I-I find that interesting.
- TRAVIS: One thing I'll mention.

When we launch rockets,

uh, more times than not,
our instruments pick up

something unusual, including
what we perceive as UAP.

And so, uh, is it a coincidence

or are we actually
stimulating or triggering

some sort of phenomena to occur?

So even something
like this, a UAP like this.

You-you think you might actually
be triggering it by launching.

There's clearly correlation
is all we can say.

RYAN: I applaud you for what
you guys are doing to actually

see what's out here.

TRAVIS: Well, with
that in mind, we have

a, uh, a-a fairly complex
experiment planned.

And so, we're
hoping to get a lot

of data from that tonight,
and we'll be happy to have

you join us if you're
interested in, uh,

maybe adding another set of
the Mark One Eyeball sensor

on-onto the, uh,
onto the problem.

Absolutely, I'd love to.
Thanks for having me.

This is great. Well,
we got stuff to do.

Let's get out there
and get going.

Hey, Dragon, Thomas?

Do you guys copy?

Yeah, we're ready
on this end, Travis.

Copy that.

All right, they're gonna
launch the four rockets

simultaneous with us.

Uh, you guys are gonna run
the rockets launch, all right?

Kaleb, you're
gonna run the lidar,

uh, with the SLAM scanner.

Pete, you're gonna
fly what on the drone?

- Uh, thermal.
- Okay.

Our airplane experiment
a couple of days ago

unfortunately didn't
get us any more data

on the massive
cone-shaped anomaly

we recently
detected that spanned

from Homestead Two
through the triangle,

all the way over
to the east field.

So tonight, we're
gonna see if launching

a number of rockets
while employing thermal

and lidar technology
might do the trick.

And we're really excited
to have Ryan Graves

and Jay Stratton here to help.

Jay, Ryan if you don't
mind, watch the screens here.

If we see any signals
come up, let me know.

And keep an eye
outside at the sky, right?

'Cause you never know
what's gonna happen.

Tonight, our friends from LOC
Precision Rockets have designed

two multi-rocket
launching systems.

One will be stationed
at the triangle

and the other will be
over at the east field.

Each station will
conduct two rounds of

four simultaneous
rocket launches

for a grand total of 16 rockets.

The hope is that they
might hit something

in the air or trigger phenomena
that will give us more data

about what that massive cone
we detected could possibly be.

All right.

Is that all four?

- Yep.
- Are the lights on in that one?

Yep, lights are on.

TRAVIS: Meanwhile,

we'll be scanning the area
with an infrared lidar drone

as well as a FLIR
thermal camera,

which Ryan Graves
will personally monitor

to look for any signs of
the cone-shaped anomaly

or other phenomena
that we might not be able

to see with the naked eye.

Yeah, Bryant, we are clear.

TRAVIS: And all
during the experiment,

Erik will be in the command
center monitoring us

on his surveillance cameras
and keeping a close eye

on his new Kraken system.

This is a new array of
antennas that can pinpoint

the location of any
strange radio signals,

like the ones at 1.6 gigahertz
that we often detect out here.

Hopefully, tonight will
reveal something incredible.

Okay, does everybody
know what we're doing?

All right, let's
go. Let's do it.

RYAN: I was tasked with
monitoring the thermal camera.

My experience monitoring

the AT-FLIR in the
F-18, uh, Travis thought

it'd be a good
idea for me to keep

my eyes open on the
FLIR to see if I could see

anything that looked familiar.

Okay, taking off.

Hey, Dragon, Thomas,
you guys copy?

Yeah, go ahead, Travis.

TRAVIS [over walkie]:
We are very close.

Uh, the lights are
ready on the rockets.

We have a drone in the air.

Uh, Kaleb is about
to start the lidar here.

Copy that.

I'm gonna go down and
start that terrestrial scanner.

Okay, I'm gonna get out here
where I can see you, guys.

All armed.

TRAVIS [over walkie]:
Rockets are going hot!

THOMAS: Ten, nine,

eight, seven, six,

five, four,

three, two, one.

TRAVIS: Oh! Did you see that?

THOMAS [over
walkie]: Three, two, one.

TRAVIS: Oh! Did
you see that? [whoops]

ALLEN: I see strobes.

KALEB: I've seen three.

TRAVIS: We got one
lawn dart somewhere.

Okay, I only have two
rockets in the air right now.

- Do y'all see the third one?
- DAVE: Yeah, I got three.

Look at them go.

What's weird is that
one's headed north

and that one's
headed almost south.

DAVE: How does that work?

THOMAS: How can
you have two chutes

being blown
different directions?

DAVE: They're right
next to each other.

TRAVIS: Oh, we got
three in the valley here.

Whoa, they're coming down slow.

Hey, Thomas,

do you copy?

Yeah, go ahead, Travis.

TRAVIS: We had four
successful launches.

Three of the chutes
deployed properly.

How did yours do?

Well, that's very interesting.

We had four that
launched, uh, on time.

We had two coming down
right next to each other.

One got blown clear to the
north and the one right next to it

got blown to the
south simultaneously.

DAVE: We've seen things
here at Skinwalker Ranch

that you just don't
see elsewhere.

We've been doing
this for over 30 years,

and so when rockets start going

a different direction
than predicted,

you kind of got to
raise a hand and say,

"Well, why did that happen?"

But at Skinwalker Ranch,
we've found out things are

anything but normal
trying to fly rockets.

And the answers don't
aways come easily.

TRAVIS: Yeah, go ahead, Erik.

ERIK: Um, during the launches,

the Kraken has been tracking

a very consistent


from the triangle, uh, down
to the southern fence line.

TRAVIS: Wow, that's kind of
the direction the rockets went.

I'd love to have validation, uh,
from your instruments out there

and see if you're
picking up the same thing.

Okay, I'm running, um...
I'm gonna turn this antenna.

Erik says it's to the south.

We weren't sure what to make

of the malfunctions
that happened

with the first launch
of eight rockets

between the east
field and the triangle.

But then, when Erik said

he was detecting a


on his Kraken system,

coming from somewhere
south of the triangle,

it made me wonder if these
two things were connected.

Come on, come on,
come on, come on.

Yeah.

That is really weird.

So we're getting
some kind of signal,

and that's the antenna
that's pointed back here

where Erik said
there was something

- coming up on the Kraken.
- Yeah.

TRAVIS [over walkie]: Hey,
uh, Dragon, Thomas, you copy?

Yes, Travis, we copy you.

Did you guys hear, uh, Erik?

Uh, we've got a


according to the Kraken,
uh, south of us somewhere.

I find that interesting.

THOMAS: We agree.

TRAVIS: Erik, let's
keep an eye on that.

Understood, Travis.

I'm watching.

The Kraken antenna array
system, whose purpose

is to direction find

and tell us where
signals are coming from,

indicates that we have

a source of 1.6 gigahertz

electromagnetic
radiation that is, in fact,

to the south and
west of the ranch.

Now, why would
that be happening?

As far as we can
tell, there's nothing

from what would be
south of the fence line

that should account for that.

TRAVIS [over walkie]:
All right, be advised.

I think this is gonna be our
last launch for the evening.

Copy that.

TRAVIS [over walkie]: Hey, can
we get everybody back into position

for our next test, please?

All right, guys.

- Thomas, you calling?
- THOMAS [over walkie]: Yeah.

Five, four, three,

two, one.

TRAVIS: We have four rockets.

One chute.

Oh, I only see one chute.

Two, three, four. We
got all four chutes.

Yeah, I can see theirs, too.

They're coming right
down on top of us.

Oh, what's that?

Right there. What's that?

We got something, Travis.

You found something?

Yeah, it was in the
cloud layer up here,

and it was descending down.

TRAVIS: Erik, be advised.

Uh, Ryan just saw
something in, uh,

the thermal camera.

Uh, from our
perspective at the triangle,

it was northeast,

and it was while the
rockets were in the air.

Okay, guys, be advised.

There is no
transponding traffic,

uh, in that location.

There's nothing to
the north of the ranch,

and there has not
been anything, uh,

flying to the north of
the ranch on the ADS-B

for the last several minutes.

Well, that's very interesting.

Just after launching our
second series of eight rockets

between the east
field and the triangle,

former Navy pilot Ryan
Graves spotted a UAP in the sky

on our thermal camera.

No one else happened
to see it in the moment,

but then Erik confirmed
that his ADS-B system,

which tracks
conventional aircraft

within 150 miles of the
ranch, didn't pick it up either.

So if it wasn't an airplane,
what the heck did Ryan see?

PETE: We got to
watch that again.

- TRAVIS: That's moving fast.
- RYAN: Yeah.

TRAVIS: Then
you see it turn, too.

- It looked like it did a maneuver.
- RYAN: It did. Yep.

That thing is moving fast.

Those clouds are five
miles away at least.

So that thing is moving.

And to the northeast again.

TRAVIS: And to the
northeast. Yeah, right there.

Right there at the,
uh, in-and-out spot.

Kind of looked like
it was diving down.

TRAVIS: Absolutely did.

That's a great catch.

It looked like it went
behind the clouds, didn't it?

This UAP, whatever it was,

descended right
down toward the mesa,

and then seemed to disappear

right where we've
previously recorded video

of other UAPs exiting the mesa

and then flying right
toward the triangle.

Erik Bard.

I don't know if it's connected to
the huge cone-shaped anomaly,

but it definitely appeared
within its boundaries.

So, what could it have been?

Well, I think we
got a lot of data.

Did I hear right
that one of you guys

caught something
flying into the mesa?

Ryan saw it on, uh, thermal
while Pete was flying the drone.

- Towards the out?
- TRAVIS: Yeah, right by the out.

And it made a maneuver,
too, as it came down.

- It made a big turn.
- It did. It did. -Oh, wow.

- It made a jog to the east.
- Oh, wow.

Yeah, I'm gonna say it
was moving really fast.

RYAN: I think it's very
important that they continue doing

what they're doing
here at the ranch,

because at the end of the day,

we're really only gonna
be able to understand this

if we're able to understand
in a repeatable manner.

You know, they seem
to be getting data here.

There seems to be
something that is happening.

It started pretty
high up in the sky,

and it was moving
down pretty quick.

I would be thrilled
to continue to work

with the team to help
figure out what this is,

and we can continue the
conversation and gather data.

You know, on my
display, I see an indication

of where that 1.6
gigahertz is coming from,

and throughout our
entire exercise tonight,

it's been pointing
predominantly,

you know, out that
way somewhere.

That sounds really odd.

But, uh, I'm ready
to break it down.

All right, well, you know, I
think it's a-a great experiment.

Yeah, and thanks again
for all you guys being here.

We appreciate it.

TRAVIS: All right.

The entire world
wants to know the truth

behind the UAP phenomenon.

There's too many credible
witnesses out there,

like Ryan Graves
and Jay Stratton,

to deny that this is one of
the great mysteries of our time.

As we've all just
witnessed again,

the answers may lie hidden
right here on Skinwalker Ranch.

So we're gonna
keep poking this nest

until we reveal what they are.

ERIK: It really seems that
we've had company in the skies

during aviation exercises.

The more we do this work in
the airspace over the triangle,

the more I'm thinking
about what additional tools

could be brought to
bear on this problem,

to study this very
interesting region

of the airspace over the ranch.

BRANDON: To have
an American hero,

like Ryan Graves,

come to the ranch
and to witness with his own eyes

the high strangeness

and the reality
of the investigation

is a privilege.

We will continue to engage
experts, like Ryan,

in service to helping us
better understand

what is happening
at Skinwalker Ranch.