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01x02 - Follow the Money

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Cursed Gold: A Shipwreck Scandal". Aired: August 21, 2024.*
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Recounting the 1989 recovery of gold from the shipwrecked S.S. Central America and expedition leader Tommy Thompson's ensuing legal turmoil.

01x02 - Follow the Money

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When it came to Tommy,

there's, there's two stories.

There's the public story,

and then there's

the story that I knew.

And what

a story this has been,

scientist turned treasure

hunter, Tommy Thompson.

This is the gold pin.

It was given to me by Tommy,

and it is

the SS Central America.

Somewhere off the coast of South Carolina

lies millions upon millions

of dollars' worth of gold.

There's

a lot of emotions.

Tommy is an incredible,

unique human being.

He's three steps

ahead of everybody.

I think there is

a curse to the gold.

It took over Tommy's mind.

The scene has

shifted from the ocean's depths

to a federal courthouse.

Taking risks

all the way to the edge.

And then he fell over the edge.

SS Central America was one

of the most gold-laden ships

that ever sank.

Tens of thousands

of coins, gold bars,

hundreds of millions

of dollars' worth of gold,

and Tommy Thompson and his crew

did the impossible and found it.

This is so good.

Finding

the gold is one thing.

to bring it back to the surface

is a completely

different problem.

The wreck

is under 8,000 feet of water.

Nobody has worked

at these depths before.

The pressure,

it's enough to implode

the two-inch-thick steel hull

of a nuclear submarine

at 2,000 feet.

They're four times

deeper than that.

The supervisor of salvage

from the United States Navy,

he himself had tried to salvage

something in the deep ocean,

and he told Tommy Thompson,

"I know how difficult it is."

And he said, "You cannot do what

you claim you're going to do.

It's impossible."

We needed

a remotely operated vehicle

to go after the gold.

There wasn't

an off-the-shelf solution.

In the 1980s,

part of the challenge was

the technology of the day

isn't up to speed

to undertake this task.

Just made it seem

like a crazy endeavor.

I was literally

going to RadioShack

and buying handfuls of parts

off of the shelf,

but still built by far

the most sophisticated remotely

operated vehicle in existence.

And we called it Nemo.

This vehicle is more complicated

than ever before, and

the whole challenge will be

keeping it running.

Keep it running, we're gonna

be successful this summer.

The problem was

this was really the first time

that they were testing

the technology

in the real situation.

Tommy

had a lot of pressure on him.

He's got a lot of people

to answer to,

and they put their trust in him.

You know,

the longer that goes on

without any measurable success,

it's got to weight on someone,

and I'm sure

it weighted on Tommy.

This was their

fourth year in the effort.

At this point, Tommy had

used around $12 million

of the investors' money.

The investors were not

gonna give him any more.

If Tommy came back

with no gold after that season,

that would be the end

of Tommy's dream.

It is definitely

time to deliver.

You have to imagine that this

vehicle is attached to the ship

8,000 feet up by this umbilical.

To pick the gold up

off the bottom,

it's not unlike standing at the

top of the Empire State Building

and dangling

a piece of dental floss

and trying to pick up

something on the sidewalk.

Here we go.

Look at that!

Something has landed

in a foreign environment.

As soon as we got

set down, I went to work.

Get to one

right here in the near field.

Okay.

The big daddy.

And what you

have to appreciate is

how slow and deliberate

all of your movement is.

Nothing happens quickly at all.

Move to the right.

Make sure it's all clear.

Just watch that thing.

There was

a lot of pressure.

We are testing out Nemo.

We're gonna

retreat a little bit here.

That should be

good. Whoa, whoa.

What?

Sorry.

Whoa!

Whoops.

Thought I had it all figured

out, but I guess I didn't.

So we got one here.

Okay, you got it?

Wow, look at that one.

To the left a little.

Yes.

That's sticking out

of the one at the back.

Don't get too

don't get too wild.

Maybe clockwise

just a little.

Don't get a cramp

in your arm now.

Here we go.

Wow!

Look at that!

Look at that!

Oh, man!

All right!

Great going, John.

Good going.

So, we knew we could

pick up the gold bars,

but recovering gold in a way

that will not decrease its value

is another difficult problem.

Some of the coins

were worth about $60,000,

so handling these carefully

was a very high priority.

Would have

taken probably forever

to carefully,

without marking them,

recover each individual coin.

I said, "Why don't we

just cast these piles of coins

into blocks of silicon?"

All right,

everybody ready?

Coming up.

It's good.

Off of the wire, John.

Can I have a tray

of some sort, please?

Wow! That's incredible!

We recovered stacks

and stacks of coins

in like one operation.

And that's hundreds and hundreds

of thousands of dollars.

Here is

a serious prize, gentlemen.

Yeah, all right!

Woo!

Yes, sir.

Oh, my god!

We did get around 50.

We did get around 50.

It was very special.

We did it.

It was a pretty big deal.

For Tommy,

it was sheer elation.

It was such a special moment.

It took years

to achieve this point.

That is great.

You know, it came

together and worked.

Mint state coins, a lot.

Tommy had

a drive about him.

People had said before,

"Do you think he's a genius?"

And I never quite know

how to answer that

because I do think

that a lot of his genius

was in just not giving up.

Everybody felt happy.

It was a long, hard summer.

A lot of work, a lot of hours.

Yes, wow, baby!

Oh, my gosh.

Will you look at that?

Look at, woo-hoo!

Look at this.

Whoa!

Oh, man, that's incredible!

Eventually we recovered

three tons of gold

or thereabouts.

We were just wrapping it up,

and now it was time,

we'd be able to relax.

And it was just

a wonderful feeling.

Cannonball! Woo-hoo!

Whoa, whoa.

Did you get that, Ray?

You bet I did.

Hey, Mac,

did you see him again?

Tommy's done something

everybody said was impossible.

Woo! Ha ha!

Now he needs to show

this gold to his investors

so that they know that

their investment has paid off.

Was he excited?

Yeah, and thrilled.

I think maybe

he was worried, too.

Tommy said, "Well, we've

dealt with the sea sharks,

now we have to deal

with the land sharks."

We released to the media

that, hey, we've

found the treasure

and it's time to come in

and show what we've found

to the world.

They wanted us pulling

in Norfolk, Virginia,

and it was gonna be televised

and quite the hoopla.

A salvage ship

carrying what is being called

the richest shipwreck haul

in U.S. history

has landed at Norfolk, Virginia.

Well, it's pretty amazing

when we see the crowd.

We felt like rock stars.

Woo ♪

Hoo, yow ♪

Woo ♪

Not a dime,

I can't pay my rent ♪

I can barely make it ♪

Tommy Thompson

and his ship,

the Arctic Discoverer,

steamed into Norfolk, Virginia,

with the treasure,

with the gold

that they had recovered

from the bottom

of the Atlantic Ocean.

Don't need nothin'

but a good time ♪

A wonderful experience.

We're famous.

It was just quite a scene.

The air was filled

with complete excitement

and curiosity, too.

Everybody wanted to see the gold

and just be part

of the experience.

It was emotional

because it was something

that we had been

working hard for.

The stuff of dreams.

It was very,

very, very exciting.

Oh, Tommy!

Mom and Dad

were just like,

"Oh, my gosh.

He really did it."

Yeah, it was a huge thrill

for the entire family.

Seems like you did

a pretty good job out there.

Yeah, it was good.

As his sister,

I was just proud of him,

but I wasn't surprised.

He was just a very talented,

talented human being.

It's worth millions,

probably hundreds of millions.

The haul could

be worth up to $1 billion.

The investors are

hopeful they'll be rewarded

for their risky undertaking.

We all flew

down there for a frenzy

like a bunch of kids

in private planes and so forth.

Well, I was excited about it.

They came off the ship

carrying these heavy boxes,

and they displayed

gold on tables.

Everybody was as happy

as they possibly be.

It looked as if we were gonna

have a lot of money, everybody.

Along with

a lot of other investors,

Mom and Dad headed down

and got the pictures

and just it had

to have been a truly

one-of-a-kind day in their life.

There's no doubt about it.

I can only imagine

their excitement.

Tommy, it's good

to see you in person.

Thank you, Sam.

It's certainly

a thrill to be here.

And with you is James Lamb,

the Director

of the coin department

of Christie's auction house

in New York.

How much would you

estimate all the gold

that we see in front of us

tonight will bring?

I think

that it's safe to say

that we have many,

many millions of dollars

sitting on this table right now.

To be able to share

what we accomplished together

with the world was,

was the best feeling ever.

It was

just a phenomenal,

exciting adventure.

From that point on,

Tommy was famous.

You mentioned

a fairy tale,

well, this is the end

of the rainbow.

Tommy Thompson,

the leader of

Last we spoke

with Thomas Thompson

And Tom Thompson and his

There's

the prospect of great wealth.

We hope to be rich.

He is handling it

amazingly well.

He seemed to just roll with it.

He didn't get a big head.

He was enjoying the moment,

as we all were.

Good morning, Thomas.

Good morning, Bryant.

Can you give me

a guess as to how much

the stuff you've

brought back is worth?

It's difficult

to tell what it's worth

at this point, Bryant.

Where do you put

so much gold to keep it safe?

I mean, I'm sure you don't

sit out there on board

the ship with a shotgun.

Of course, we can't

talk about that, Bryant,

but we have a number

of very interesting

security procedures that we use.

In the beginning,

it was really exciting.

And then it really wasn't long

where it turned into a tragedy.

If you're gonna do something

magnificent like Tommy did,

you're gonna be up for grabs.

The scene has

shifted from the ocean's depths

to a federal courthouse

now deep in layers of lawyers.

They began surfacing

shortly after the treasure did,

representing people

who felt they deserved a cut.

39 insurance companies

that realized they

or their predecessors

had insured the ship.

It's a well-accepted law that

when an underwriter pays for

gold or whatever, they own that.

We are not trying to take

everything away from them,

it's exactly the opposite,

they're trying to take

everything away from us.

Not a bar to be moved

nor a coin to be sold

till the courts decide

who it belongs to.

It's suddenly

like the record stopping

and screeching to a halt.

Several insurance

companies had filed claims

saying that the gold

that Tommy and his crew

had just risked

their lives finding

and spent millions and millions

of dollars working for

belonged to

the insurance companies.

My name is Rick Robol.

I was the attorney

for Tommy's companies

for approximately 25 years.

I think the feeling in the room

was what a tragedy

that such a beautiful moment

in American history

could be sullied

by the very nature

of human greed

and the desire for money.

Unfortunately, this is a story

of the American dream

and how it can be destroyed

by gold fever.

The insurance companies

did absolutely nothing

for 132 years

to recover the treasure.

They sat back, they waited

for individuals to go out

and do all the work

and take all the risk

and put up all the money,

and then they came into court

and made their claim.

Well, we don't think

that's right.

Did you feel

sort of like a gold prospector

in the Old West who'd

had his claim jumped?

Oh, it felt terrible.

Here we were, had gone

through all these hurdles

over a four-year period of time,

the last thing that we really

wanted to be spending our time

and our precious efforts on

with regard to the recovery.

If you have even

the most tenuous connection

to a hundred or hundreds

of millions of dollars,

if not more, in gold, I think

the natural human impulse

is to wonder how you can

get your share of it.

Suddenly

out of the woodwork

after the insurance

companies appear,

there are others

who are appearing.

There were rival explorers,

rival salvers.

We even

had Capuchin monks

that claimed that we used

a map that they provided

to find the, to find the gold.

I know! I didn't even

know they existed,

Capuchin monks. Yeah.

There were lawsuits being filed

almost in real time.

It was just one after

another after another.

It was just like, what the heck

is going on here?

You can't even

make this stuff up.

We probably

had 100-plus claims.

Judge Richard Kellam

will decide

later this summer

who gets the gold.

These lawsuits were

keeping Tommy from thinking

and creating

and being who he was.

It was like cutting out

part of his brain,

and, wow, that was

very stressful.

It became

very difficult for Tommy

because he was thinking

about many different things

on many different levels

at the same time.

The litigation,

the at-sea operations,

and then he was having to deal

with the money end of things.

We're trying

to keep the momentum going

even though we're tied up

in litigation

and we can't sell

the treasure yet.

We were frozen.

Nothing got done except we were

battling insurance companies.

The company

had to hire many lawyers.

They had a team of attorneys

trying to figure out

how to take care of this.

Tommy started

to get a little paranoid.

At the time, I was

living at the office,

and a large quantity of gold

was in the basement.

I could go down to the basement,

and I could see the a*mo cans

and the containers

that had the gold in it.

It was undocumented.

I think that

it was an option, right?

If things didn't go the

way that we wanted them to go,

I don't know. I mean,

we, we couldn't get inside

Tommy's head at that time.

The gold was eventually

removed from the basement

and taken to a secure facility.

But I was the treasurer

responsible for keeping

everything aboveboard,

and I had effectively been asked

to lie about

the gold's whereabouts.

I shouldn't have been

put in that position,

so I left the organization.

When it came to Tommy,

there's, there's two stories.

There's the public story,

and then there's

the story that I knew.

After the recovery

of the gold in 1989,

there were trials,

hearings, appeals,

case sent back, further appeals,

case sent back.

And it lasted for years

and years and years.

The find

was a treasure hunter's

dream come true.

The legal hunt is not over.

The Ohio-based group goes

back to court in Norfolk

where a hearing will decide

what money the group

will get to keep.

At this moment,

after years of effort,

years of waiting,

everyone's future is just

hanging in the balance,

especially with the amount

of money at stake.

Tommy and the other

members of the group,

the investors, all of us

were waiting anxiously,

sitting on the edge

of our chairs as we waited

for the decision

from the court of appeals.

And finally it came.

Some real-life treasure hunters

just found out that they can

keep their discovered riches,

92% of the gold

they found on the ship,

the SS Central America.

Finally there was

an award of 92% of the treasure

to Tommy's companies

and 100% of all future

recoveries of treasure.

So it was a moment

of great jubilation.

Tommy was overjoyed.

I remember that he was virtually

screaming and laughing

and jumping up and down

as though a great burden

has been lifted

from his shoulders.

We couldn't

have better news.

We were just ecstatic.

I will enjoy getting back to the

original mission of the project.

I am now confident that nothing

will stand in the way

of moving forward.

92% of 100

is pretty darn good.

And we can go ahead

and start trying to, you know,

receive some of the profits

from the expedition.

We were really excited.

Thompson's now trying

to sell the treasure

to try to return money

to the partners lickety-split.

The feeling was,

this is just the beginning.

I got the money, yeah ♪

A lot of the investors

were, at this point, probably

deciding how they were

going to spend their share.

Getting ready to buy a fast car,

a swimming pool,

or maybe even a private jet.

By now they've invested

a total of $22 million

in the hopes of massive returns.

I had $10,000,

100 to 1 on 10,000

might be $1 million.

We were very excited.

My dad and I

just got together on,

you know, what is it

gonna be sold for?

In the newspaper,

it's saying, you know,

it's 400 million or

it's 100 million or whatever.

And some people are saying

it's priceless.

But, you know, until you

market it, you don't know.

Tommy had never

sold this kind of treasure,

but nobody else had either.

And there were a lot

of discussions, I'm sure,

that went back and forth.

I did not

Finally,

in December of 1999,

the gold is sold to

California Gold Marketing Group

for $52 million.

Some investors

may have been disappointed

at the amount it sold for,

because years earlier

experts had estimated it

could be worth $400 million.

But it's like

a da Vinci painting,

it's an artificial amount

that you're setting,

and I think to sell it

for 50-something million dollars

was a good deal.

There was nobody else

who could have come in

and done a better job at this.

We're back in business,

but there's one problem.

We have $50 million in debt.

When we finally sold the

treasure, we paid off the debt,

but we didn't have enough money

for the partners, nothing.

Welcome. Thank

you all for coming today.

Can everybody hear me okay?

Tommy, I'm

very frustrated at this meeting.

I have no idea sitting here

what the outcome is.

You may have the most to lose,

but I think

that's another bad deal.

Very frustrating.

My dad and I, you know,

we're both frustrated,

and other investors

are absolutely frustrated,

and we didn't know

what was going on.

It's hard to have

invested something in 1985.

Most of these people

were probably in their 60s.

There are people

that say my father died

and he was consumed by this.

I really want you

to know that, you know,

that there's been a lot

of stress in this project

for everybody,

for the staff, for me,

and I needthe psychological

support of the partners

is critically important

to me, you know,

psychologically

as well as every other way.

Among the investors,

there was confusion

and disappointment,

but some took a harder line.

Perhaps natural suspicion

would be to accuse Tommy

of doing something, and that's

the track that they took,

that Tommy was to blame.

Gradually these rumors

built up and up and up

to the effect that Tommy

had not used the money

that he had gotten

to pay off debts

but had made tens

of millions of dollars

and had taken them for himself.

The image of Tommy

was that he was off

living the high life.

He was sipping margaritas

by the pool,

and he had millions buried

somewhere on an estate.

Some people called it

a seaside mansion.

None of that was true.

It was not even

remotely like that.

Honestly,

do you want me to get into

why there was so much debt?

$50 million,

that's a lot of money.

My name is Quintin Lindsmith,

and I was hired to try and dig

into where the money went.

I was counsel in the Lehman

Brothers bankruptcy case.

I've done all kinds

of high-profile litigation.

This case alone probably

was the most fascinating case

I have ever had

in my 40-plus-year career.

I came to Columbus in 1987,

and some of the partners

at this law firm were investors,

and I remember them

talking in the hallways

about the gold ship recovery.

They really thought

it would change their lives

in terms of wealth.

So, what happened

to all that money?

It would not

be difficult for anybody

to count up all the legal fees

and all of the money

that had to be borrowed

to make all those payments

and all the interest

that had to be paid to the banks

for that money,

and pretty soon

it's $50 million.

I'm sorry, what?

So, he runs up a huge debt

during the insurance litigation,

but not because

he had to pay the lawyers.

Again, what happened

to that 50 million?

So we maintained a ship,

we had supply ships,

we had the crew,

we had a technical crew,

so we had large expenses there.

He didn't spend

money to maintain the ship

that was the original

exploration vessel

because that thing

sank in the harbor.

Well, Tom kept his

staff on, kept paying them.

If you think that

didn't drain finances,

and all those lawsuits

cost money to defend yourself,

so people don't seem

to understand it's the lawyers.

It's the lawyers.

Well, we know

where a lot of the money went.

Apparently he was

developing an airplane

that could go out

to the wreck site

and land on the wreck site

and dump something

in the water and come back.

Nobody had ever thought

of having an airplane

that could fly out to the site,

go down 3,000 feet

with a 750-pound robot

shaped like a pyramid

with three parts to it.

It spun, and little legs

came out so that you

It was amazing.

Goofy things,

in my view.

He was hanging out

in the presidential palace

of the president of Colombia

to help explore

for more shipwrecks.

We knew

that the San José,

which is the greatest

wreck ever known,

was off of the coast

of Colombia.

We knew it had 100 cases

of emeralds on board.

It was worth $20 billion,

and we were planning

to go there.

Tommy Thompson was

the Elon Musk of the deep ocean.

He was a visionary.

The focus was on the development

of new technologies to continue

this process of opening up

the deep ocean frontier.

Here's the big problem.

It is one thing

to spend your life

looking for a single wreck site

and working through

and identifying where

you think it might be,

but it is another thing

to essentially take their money

and spend it on these projects

without telling them

that's what you're doing.

But that's

not what happened.

The investors did know

about the airplane,

and they also knew about

the search for the San José.

This was about suspicions

being deliberately cast

on Tommy's character.

Eventually a couple

of the larger investors

start inquiring, and they

start sending letters,

can you send us the financial

records of what happened?

Behind all of this was

a family called the Wolfes.

The Wolfe family

in central Ohio

has been probably

the most influential family

for over a century.

They started out

manufacturing shoes

but then quickly

moved into buying

the two major newspapers

in town.

They then moved into banking.

They then moved

into real estate.

People said we don't

have the Mafia in Columbus

because we had the Wolfes.

Well, that was probably true.

The Wolfe family had

invested $1 million in Tommy,

so they just want to

find out what happened.

And when we talk about

the Wolfe family at that time,

it's really John F. Wolfe.

You know in this

town not to cross the Wolfes.

Everybody knows that.

Tommy knew that.

You don't cross the Wolfes.

John Wolfe became concerned

that others had invested

because the Wolfe family

had invested.

I think he felt an ethical

and moral obligation

to find answers

for the investors.

At this point in time,

I was giving faith to Tommy

that he was looking after us

and our best interests still.

John Wolfe

has his attorneys

send a letter to Tommy, asking,

can you give us

the books and records

so we can see what happened

to all the money?

Tommy doesn't respond.

Mr. Wolfe's lawyers send eight

more letters, one every month.

Tommy ignores

every single one of them.

I mean, why can't you

just respond to a letter?

That's a red flag.

Finally in 2005,

Mr. Wolfe and another investor

authorized the filing

of a lawsuit.

Tommy thought he'd

done the extraordinary, yes.

He certainly didn't think

it would turn out like this.

He didn't know that one man

would go after him.

I can't figure out why on earth

he would try and destroy Tom,

but that's what he did.

That's when life

started changing.

The lawsuit filed

by John Wolfe got me thinking

that something's going wrong

when there's just, you know,

radio silence on what was

going on with the company.

I think at that point in time,

we were grateful for John Wolfe.

They claimed there was

tens of millions

of dollars missing.

I mean, we spent years

just dreaming of getting out

of these litigations,

and now it's been devastating.

Tommy had no money

to pay the investors.

If he had had money to pay

the investors and he kept it,

that would have been

a whole different story.

But it's not

just John Wolfe

who filed suit against Tommy.

To add insult to injury,

even some of his own crew

turned on him.

Williamson came in

and made his facetious claim.

It was my sonar crew,

not all of them;

a dozen people,

something like that.

Tommy owed us percentages

of the gold that

had been recovered,

like 1.9%.

But 1.9% could be a lot

of a lot of money.

We had legal counsel,

and we weren't getting anywhere,

and that's when

we filed our suit.

So, now

we are out of money.

Here's Tommy Thompson

fighting lawsuits every day.

Any relationships he was

developing are now dead.

Well, it was a matter

of principle, I guess.

At this time

in Tommy's life,

all the difficulties

of the past decade and a half

seem to come to a head.

All of the regular stressors

of daily life are magnified

by this enormous

legal quagmire he was in.

I could see

that Tommy was exhausted,

that his health was failing.

His dream was being

taken away from him.

I have been

working on this

since 1985 without stopping.

And I have been

in litigation constantly.

I've pretty much

dedicated my life

to protecting

the partners' interests

and everybody's interests

that are involved in this.

Over the years, you can

see the weight of the burden

that Tommy was carrying.

It was apparent

that something was wrong.

One time,

I couldn't get ahold of him,

he wasn't answering the phone,

so I actually went over.

There were many papers and

things all over the doorstep.

It looked like

nobody lived there.

In several, several hours,

Tommy came downstairs.

He had been throwing up

for like three days.

I mean, this kind of stress

was monumental for Tommy.

It was like turning him

upside down

and hanging him by his feet.

When the world's crashing down

on you, you get sick.

He had no idea that something

like this would ever happen.

We all have breaking points.

You know, at this

point, it's been 20 years

since the first dollars

were invested,

but we're now at 2005.

The lawsuit goes on

for about seven years.

In 2012, the Wolfes,

they still didn't have answers.

And the different judges

get more and more frustrated

with Tommy and his lawyers,

accusing Tommy of not

complying with court orders

to turn over records

to find out what happened.

John Wolfe's lawyers

claimed that there were

tens of millions of dollars

unaccounted for, just missing.

And the whole thing,

if you went through all of it,

court after court after court,

year after year,

it dwindled to a single thing,

and that is 500

commemorative gold coins.

When the treasure

was sold, as part of the deal,

the investors were promised

500 gold coins.

These are newly minted coins

made out of the original

California gold

using the gold press

from the 1850s.

Each coin is 2.5 ounces of gold.

That's a lot of gold.

Altogether they're valued at

the time at about $2.5 million.

They were saying

that each of the investors

could get one

of those restrike coins,

and that would have

been fabulous,

but that never came to be.

At this point, the story

basically is one big question:

Did Tommy steal

these investors' coins?

Thompson would

never steal a mouse.

What a bunch of crap.

I felt bad for Tommy.

At this point, he had not

been paid for several years.

Tommy feels that he was entitled

to the coins for back pay.

But the judge says

that Tommy owes these coins

to the investors to deliver

on some of these returns.

The judge orders Tommy

to come into court

in Columbus, Ohio.

Get out of your house and come

into this federal court.

You get under oath and tell me

where those coins are.

I was actually there

the day of that hearing.

And his lawyer appeared, and I

remember him telling the judge,

"He ain't here."

The judge has had enough.

He turns to the marshal

and says,

"I want you to go

arrest Tommy Thompson."

I remember thinking at the time,

he's, he's really issuing

an arrest warrant.

This is really happening.

The marshals are gonna

go get this guy.

Whoa, everything

was just so unbelievable.

At this point,

now everyone was believing

that Tom was

a criminal, a crook,

that he'd stolen coins.

At that moment,

Tommy Thompson was

a fugitive from justice,

and that's when

the manhunt began.