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01x01 - Business of Enlightenment

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Cult of Fear: Asaram Bapu". Aired: February 6, 2025.*
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Uncover the alleged crimes, deceit, violence and manipulations of a once-revered spiritual leader, Asaram.

01x01 - Business of Enlightenment

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(PENSIVE MUSIC)

Think about why "The

Mahabharata" happened,

only then will you

understand the story.

Why did it happen?

That's the case

in this story too.

How did the children go missing?

And why did this happen to them?

Only we know the game

that fate has played with us.

He is my elder brother.

Dipesh was my son.

Abhishek was Shantilal's son.

(SOFT MUSIC)

The Asaram Ashram ran a

Gurukul (BOARDING SCHOOL),

so we enrolled Abhishek

and Dipesh there.

(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

(MUSIC INTENSIFIES)

(CELL PHONE VIBRATING)

On 3rd July, I received a

call from the boarding school.

They informed us that

Abhishek and Dipesh are missing.

I went, "What?"

(OMINOUS MUSIC)

The Ashram people made

us go around in circles

and we continued

being deceived for hours.

(MUSIC INTENSIFIES)

An officer at Chandkheda

Police Station told us

that numerous children have

gone missing like this in the past.

Your children might

not be found as well.

Why?

What do I do?

Asaram was considered

as one of the leading

spiritual preachers of Gujarat.

Asaram Bapu addressed the

crowd for hours with his eyes closed.

And whoever he saw

once he opened his eyes,

they would become blissful.

Hari Om! Hari Om! Hari Om!

If he said, "Jump off a

cliff," the disciple would do it.

Because a disciple's

good fortune

lies in following the

Guru's commands.

It is very doubtful.

If justice will ever be

served in a case like this.

That's when lots of

details about this Godman

started coming out.

There were stories of assaults,

there were stories of land grabs.

How he ran his financial empire.

I dedicated everything I had

to him, even the way I thought.

I did not even have

the freedom to think.

He is no God, he is the Devil.

(UNSETTLING MUSIC)

People don't go into cults

thinking this is a terrible place to be,

they go in thinking this is

the best thing for my family.

I am not under any obligation to

respond to baseless allegations.

Accuse me of whatever

you want, I don't care.

When Bapu has done nothing wrong,

then why should he be disrespected?

-Om! Om! Om!

-(CROWD SHOUTING)

Om! Om! Om!

(POLICE SIRENS BLARING)

In a cult you don't

see from the front stage

what's really going on in the back

by this psychopathic cult leader.

Does our country have a

different law for Asaram?

(CROWD CLAMOURING)

Please answer my question.

Asaram Bapu has

the mass support

But the truth always wins.

Come what may,

an honest person

will never back down.

(THEME SONG)

(MUSIC FADES)

(BIRDS CHIRPING)

(INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC)

I come from a

middle-class family.

My mother has always been

very religious and spiritual.

We were taught to pray

as soon as we woke

up in the morning.

I passed with

distinction till class 10th.

After 10th class, I was a

medical science student.

I was living a good life.

But after class 12th,

I came in contact with Asaram Bapu

and got influenced by his teachings.

I used to believe

that Asaram is God.

After that I was

dedicated to finding God.

Till the time I got married, I

used to hate spiritual leaders.

I was a crime reporter

and a very arrogant one.

My mother-in-law believed

that when I have a child,

it would also

inherit these traits.

And that would

make our lives harder.

She was always

worried about this.

One day while watching

television, she came across Asaram

and she wanted to

introduce me to this saint.

(INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC)

I was anyway used to

meeting senior politicians,

so meeting Asaram

was no big deal.

So I told her, "Okay,

let's meet him."

There was a message

running on the TV ticker below

that Saint Asaram

Bapu is in Panipat.

(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

In 1995, 1996, he had organised

a programme in Panipat, Haryana.

A lot of people were

attending, even I attended.

That day Asaram Bapu said

he will initiate us the next day

and asked us to bring

an initiation kit along.

I didn't know what an initiation

prayer was and why it's done.

Initiation means

a person's commitment to

sacrifice what is necessary

to overcome suffering,

misfortune, sin and adversity.

I was a devotee of Lord Ganesha

but Asaram Bapu did not

recite any prayer related to him.

Outside I heard a crow cawing.

So I decided, the prayer on

which the crow caws three times,

I will raise my

hand for that prayer.

Now, as soon as Asaram

Bapu recited the first prayer,

the crow cawed

thrice, "Caw, caw, caw."

So then I raised my hand.

I had common pregnancy

issues like nausea and dizziness.

From the moment I

began chanting the prayer,

all of these issues stopped.

As my faith in Asaram

Bapu deepened,

I could feel distinct

changes in my life.

I felt that the changes

I was feeling within me,

was because of the power

of chanting the prayers.

For hours Asaram Bapu would

be immersed in a divine trance

and continued to be

in that state of trance,

and when he would

suddenly open his eyes,

those in front of him

would become blissful.

We all made attempts

that when Asaram Bapu

opened his eyes from his trance,

his gaze settles on us.

We always had this desire.

When he would sing devotional

songs and dance on the stage,

we believed that he is

completely immersed in spirituality

and devotion to God.

He is dancing to the

rhythm of his devotion,

he must be a great saint.

The day I was

initiated, I had decided

that I will serve the Guru,

attain salvation, and

lead a successful life.

So I devoted myself

to Asaram's Ashram.

Like jaggery, if your heart

is sweet and full of warmth,

and you make spiritual

awakening your life's purpose,

then every deed of yours

becomes an act of devotion.

A dedicated disciple is someone

who has renounced

all worldly ties

and has decided to spend

the rest of his life in the Ashram.

My family was against my

decision to go live in the Ashram,

but I refused to listen to them

and was determined to

join the Asaram Ashram.

Just as the waves and

the ocean are one in nature,

similarly you cannot distinguish

between Guru from God.

It's difficult to

corroborate exactly

how much of Asaram's

known early life is true.

Roughly what I have heard is that

his full name is Asumal Harpalani.

You know, he is

of Sindhi origin.

His parents moved here at

some point into post-partition India.

When Asaram Bapu was

born, everyone said that

one day he will

become a great saint.

He will enlighten

the whole world.

Wherever his Guru

held religious gatherings,

Asaram served him as a servant.

He arrived in the Motera region

of Ahmedabad in the 1980s.

This region is on the

outskirts of Ahmedabad,

near the Sabarmati River.

At the time, his age

was around 24 years.

When Asaram Bapu started

addressing crowds and giving sermons,

word spread about him gradually

and people came to

know of him as a saint.

Soon after, influential people

also started following him.

He operated as a bootlegger

running his business near the

banks of the Sabarmati River.

In a span of just

10 to 15 years,

he transformed from

Asumal to Asaram.

(CROWD CLAMOURING)

Wherever Bapu sets

his feet in some place,

he can immediately tell

the history of that place.

Then he built an

Ashram in Ahmedabad.

It's a beautiful Ashram.

If you go to Asaram's Ashram,

you will find steps

behind the Ashram

which lead

straight to the river.

In this way, he even encroached

on the Sabarmati River.

It was believed

that any land Asaram

touched would become his.

(RIVETING MUSIC)

He also encroached

on the neighbouring land.

At the time, the

government didn't intervene.

If any legal proceedings were

undertaken, people would argue

that their saints

were being harassed.

During that time,

he distributed free groceries

among the labourers.

He also addressed their

psychosomatic problems

and healed them somehow.

When Asaram Bapu

visited tribal areas,

he would speak against people

trying to convert their religion.

He would preach

about Lord Krishna's teachings

in "The Bhagavad Gita."

When you feel that your

religion is under threat

and if someone is

protecting your religion,

then you should respect him.

Bapu made 70,000 people

revert to Hinduism within a month.

This is no small feat.

As a result, the number

of his followers grew.

After Ahmedabad, he

built an Ashram in Surat.

He also built Ashrams in

Himmatnagar, Pindval and Kutch.

As Asaram Bapu's popularity

grew, his followers also increased.

Asaram's popularity

here was so prominent

that if you get off at

Kalupur railway station

and ask an autorickshaw driver

to take you to Bapu's Ashram,

he would take you

to Asaram's Ashram

instead of Mahatma Gandhi's.

I am a construction

labour contractor.

My family is quite religious.

Since childhood I had an

inclination to learn about God.

So I was looking for

ways to get closer to God.

How to identify God?

One of my friends

asked me if I have a Guru.

I told him, "No, I

don't have a Guru."

My friend advised me

that to achieve the qualities

I want, I'll need a Guru.

So I asked him "who

can be that Guru?"

He said there's a saint

called Asaram nearby.

So I decided to make

Asaram Bapu my Guru.

My entire family including my

son Abhishek, my two daughters

and my wife, all of us went

to the Ashram to get initiated.

(WOMAN SOBBING)

I stayed there for 10-12 days.

We prayed at the spot

where Bapu meditated

and we spent the entire

day there in his service.

I only had one goal

and that was to attain

the same knowledge of

this universe like Bapu.

(TENSE MUSIC)

I have never had any education

in what a cult looked like.

And I got involved

with a political cult.

And when I got out I had

this question, you know,

"How could this happen to me?"

Because people think

that these things are good.

People don't go into cults

thinking this is a terrible place to be.

They go in thinking, this is

the best thing for my family.

And it's not until you have been

fully immersed into the group

that you begin to hear

what the cult is really about.

Life inside the

Ashram is very tough.

We weren't praying to God, we

were only worshipping Asaram.

Every morning at 5:15 a.m.

everyone had to be

present at the chanting hall.

If you failed to attend, you

would not be given one meal.

So in a way, one was

forced to be present.

I don't know of any cult

that lets people sleep long.

You may even have

nutritional deficits

because there may be

various specific dietary controls.

And then you have

to serve endlessly.

He demanded laborious work

from the newly enrolled disciples.

(MACHINE WHIRRING)

You can't let your

followers have free time

or they may go and do something

else or have time to think.

(CROWD PRAYING)

Reading newspapers

and watching television

was completely

restricted in the Ashram.

Newspapers were

considered garbage

and we were instructed

not to read them.

We were told to read books

published by the Ashram.

When you read books like, "Guru

Gita" and "Guru Bhakti Yoga,"

they explain it all.

You are getting messages about

the outside world

being a negative energy

or, you know, words like that.

And then there's

gonna be this shift.

"You know you really

should be more disciplined

if you care about your

development or your spiritual path."

We were told to

protect ourselves

from the vibrations

emitted by women.

So we did exactly that.

There should be no

physical relationships

and not even

social relationships.

Even conversations with

women were discouraged.

The men would

go to such extremes

that they even refused to

eat the food served by women.

If a meal is cooked

in the Ashram

and if a woman happens

to look at that food,

even then we would

not eat that food.

This was our mindset.

It was taught to

us in the Ashram

"Guru agya hi kevalam,

shishasya param mangalam."

It means the Guru's order is

the holy duty of the disciple.

If the Guru tells the

disciple to consume poison,

then they will do

as they are told

because it's their duty to

obey the Guru's command.

If the Guru says "jump off a

cliff," the disciple would do it.

Because a Guru's command

is of utmost importance

to the disciple.

(OMINOUS MUSIC)

You are kind of living

on a different planet.

And that's really the essence

of a process of brainwashing.

Life in the Ashram

is that of sacrifice

and not that of indulgence.

If you want to live

an indulgent life,

then you have to leave

this life of renunciation.

They want more from people.

They want more money from people.

They want more time from people.

They want more adoration.

(MUSIC CONTINUES)

You will also be

able to understand

Asaram's meteoric

rise in terms of following,

if you understand

India's economic situation.

From the '90s till now,

India's economic

divide is only increasing.

People want answers to life

because they believe that, you know,

maybe a divine power will help me

to get where I want to get.

So cable TV starts some

time in the early '90s,

but catches on really

in the mid to late '90s.

And I think one of the peak

moments of cable television,

one is the "K-series"

and the other is "Kaun

Banega Crorepati".

At the same time that's

when another channel

suddenly pops up on the

horizon called Aastha channel.

Asaram also came in and

he started giving his sermons.

You must have heard

this for the first time.

"Bh" "Ga" "Wa" "N" (GOD)

Asaram Bapu realised

that there's a way of

getting beamed directly

into people's homes.

The internet wasn't around,

social media wasn't around.

Television was where people learned

about products, services, religion,

programming,

entertainment, all of it.

There's definitely a transition

in the way he is playing to

a certain kind of audience.

Aastha channel was

supposed to be religion

but here is them

talking about everything.

And people like it. It

actually draws in more people.

To those who are taking

liberties with Indian culture,

I request them with bowed

hands to change their ways else

Om!

-Om! Om! Om!

-(CROWD CHANTING OM)

What you see is this pretty

attractive performance.

It's very useful

to cult leaders.

You know, it's

just another way in.

So you don't see

from the front stage

what's really going

on in the back,

which is, that this is run by

this psychopathic cult leader.

"Who is Asaram Bapu to you?"

"Bapu is my father."

Aye-haye!

Could you say a

few words in English?

You've come from Europe.

And you feel Bapu

is a very hot man

and so and so, as

you like, you can speak.

Okay?

Okay.

Bapu, I love you.

Aye.

Oh! Bapu's hit a home run!

So Asaram, he realised

after a point of time

that "how can I monetise this?"

It started with soap,

incense sticks, candles

(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

If God is selling me

something, I am going to buy it.

That's when he also starts

to make a lot of money.

It's believed that his worth

would be in tens of

thousands of crores.

Asaram Bapu's enlightenment

and knowledge of the universe

is not limited to

just this universe.

It spans across all universes.

(HELICOPTER BLADES WHIRRING)

These shocking clips

are from Saint Asaram's

helicopter crash.

Without the power of

the prayers within me,

this accident could

have turned fatal.

Whatever happened

with the helicopter,

it broke into three

parts, I fell from the sky

and yet I have

come out unharmed.

All hail!

He is omnipotent.

Please don't mistake him

to be an ordinary person.

There is so much more

to him than meets the eye.

Asaram was

building up his empire.

(INDISTINCT OVERLAPPING VOICES)

His son also appears.

I mean it's sort of spirituality

which is being passed

down through DNA,

programmed into

both father and son.

Very often a doctor is

born in a doctor's family,

an actor is born

in an actor's family,

so undoubtedly a saint will

be born into a saint's family.

When the respect for Asaram

Bapu reached new heights,

many people

started following him.

People would think

because he is Bapu's son

they can get his blessings

if Bapu is out of reach.

Later he also started

serving people like Bapu.

He also conducted

religious gatherings.

In this way, he also

gained followers.

Is there anyone who dares to

compare himself to Narayan?

He's worshipped globally.

Have you heard his sermons?

The managers of the Ashram

are in direct contact with

Asaram Bapu and Narayan Sai,

as they have to report to

them on a regular basis.

Since I had to report to them,

I also came under their radar.

Narayan Sai made me

his personal assistant.

We had faith in him because

he was the son of our Guru.

The Guru's son is also

respected and worshipped.

Whenever Narayan Sai wanted

to conduct his programmes,

I would make all

the arrangements.

Narayan Sai would tell

me that he is a celibate

and if there ever was a

Narayan Sai sperm bank,

then the society will have

superior children like him.

Asaram's son believes

that, you know, he has this

mesmerising effect on women.

He believes of course

that he is Lord Krishna

and, you know, his

eyes are hypnotic.

And this animal charm about him.

Narayan Sai's driver seemed

upset since a few days.

Since we were nearly the

same age, I asked him one day,

"Why have you been so upset

lately? What's bothering you?"

(CAR APPROACHING)

(TIRES SCREECHING)

He started crying and told me,

"Narayan orders me to take

the car in the middle of the night

and bring him a girl."

(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

"I would bring a girl for him

around 1:30 a.m. in the night.

And at around 3:00 a.m.

he would again tell me

to hide that girl in the boot

of the car and drop her off.

I don't know what's going on."

I told him, "It's nothing,

you've gone mad.

This must be some

divine act of the Guru.

Just leave it."

He said, "No, the

girls don't just visit him,

there is some sort of sexual

activity going on as well."

I asked him to show me.

The first time I saw it, I

couldn't believe my eyes.

Why? Because

(POIGNANT MUSIC)

because

(MUSIC INTENSIFIES)

May I have some water, please?

(INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC)

I couldn't believe my eyes

because I had blind

faith in my Guru.

And when I saw my Guru

with a woman in a

compromising situation,

I could not believe my eyes.

I could've never imagined

that something this

disgusting can happen.

I realised that this

man is no saint or God.

He is a characterless

and hedonistic person.

I felt in a way my

life was finished.

I left everything and came here.

I dedicated everything

I had to them,

including my thoughts.

I wasn't even free to

have a mind of my own.

And he was no God,

he was the Devil.

(POIGNANT MUSIC)

There can be a tremendous

amount of shame.

You know, how could

I have been so stupid?

How could I have stayed

in this terrible thing?

There can be a

great deal of grief.

A lot of grief about

the lost years.

I learnt about all this in 2004, so

I left the Ashram in August 2005.

My extended family members

were disciples of Asaram

and they all condemned

me at that time.

To them the truth was

an insult of the Guru.

But I refused to leave the

truth, and I left my home instead.

(CROWD CLAPPING)

There are certain forces at play

which are trying

to malign the saints

and the deities of

our Indian culture.

The more you devote yourself

to serve the purpose of a

united India and its culture,

the more God will bless you

with a greater sense

of peace in your life.

He said it in his sermon as well

that even if I have to

sacrifice myself 10 times, I will,

but I will not let someone

malign my country's culture.

When Asaram Bapu said this,

a lot of organisations joined him.

Many politicians joined Bapu.

Governments don't run religion,

religion runs governments.

In the 2000s, the only way

politicians could get on

television was if they were invited

or if they were holding

a big rally or an event.

Godmen had an edge over them.

(RIVETING MUSIC)

An aura was built around

him that he is a great saint.

Asaram was a big vote

bank for all the politicians.

Having a political

figure next to you

it's not just for the

Godman's benefit,

but the Godman

is actually validating

this politician as a just ruler.

There is a Chief Minister,

a renowned Chief

Minister of Uttar Pradesh.

He told his party members

that if Asaram Bapu

pats someone on his back,

then no matter which party

they are from, they will win.

(CROWD) All hail

"Bhagwan ji". (THE GOD)

"Narayana Hari."

It's okay if you don't

give me a donation

but you should

definitely cast your vote.

(CROWD CHEERING)

It's primarily a

case of opportunism

to bring people in and

then to control them.

(VOCALIZING)

In 2008, the moment

you entered the Ashram,

you would see a tent.

They informed me

that they have opened a

boarding school for children

and I could enrol my

children in the boarding school.

Asaram Bapu's

principles are followed,

the children would

wake up at 5:00 a.m.

and would sit for lectures

between 6:00 a.m. and 7:00 a.m.

Gurukul is the only

place for children

to be taught the right values.

If you send your children

to convent schools,

they will have no faith in

Hindu religion and its scriptures.

You will lose your

money and your children.

(VOCALIZING)

My son was in class four.

The boarding school admitted

children from class five.

So I discussed this at home

that it's a good school

where he will grow up

in the right environment

and learn the right values.

I got my child admitted there

so he could receive

better education.

My brother Praful came

to know about our decision.

He also decided

to admit his son Dipesh

to the boarding school.

Knowing that both the brothers

will be studying together,

we enrolled Dipesh

in the school as well.

As children, we used

to read "The Ramayana,"

"The Mahabharata"

and "The Bhagavad Gita".

My name is Praful Vaghela.

He is my elder brother.

Dipesh was my son.

Abhishek was Shantilal's son.

Dipesh did not get angry easily.

He was just 10 years old but

had a mind of a 22 year old.

Abhishek was short-tempered.

He would get angry easily.

From an early age, he would come

with me to Lord Shankar's temple.

His interests were

similar to mine.

Dipesh and Abhishek went

to the boarding school together

and stayed in the same room.

After 15th June, when

the school commenced,

we paid them a visit

once every week.

(OMINOUS MUSIC)

That day I had gone to the

Ashram to meet Abhishek and Dipesh

Abhishek had told me

that he wanted batteries

for his keyboard player

and Dipesh had asked me

to get roller skates for him.

So I arranged for a call

between him and his father.

Dipesh told me, "Papa,

please come quickly"

and started crying.

I asked him, "Why are you

crying? Is something wrong?

Tell me what the problem is?"

"Papa please come soon," I asked,

"At least tell me what's wrong?"

He said, "No papa, you

just come here quickly."

(MUSIC CONTINUES)

I spoke to him at 2:30 p.m.

I told Shantilal, that we

just met him a few days ago.

If we go frequently,

they will feel homesick.

I'm talking about

when we visited them

a couple of days

before this happened.

Abhishek was with him

and Dipesh was sitting

in my lap as he always did.

So while we were talking,

Abhishek stood up and came to me.

He said, "Uncle, they took

us to the swimming pool

and over there--"

As he was about to tell me

more, Dipesh stopped him.

He wanted to tell us something.

Why he wouldn't say

anything, I didn't know.

Did he see something?

On 3rd July, 2008,

around 9:00 p.m.

(SINISTER MUSIC)

I received a call from

the boarding school.

They said that Dipesh and

Abhishek have gone missing.

I immediately

called up Shantilal.

We just met them

in the afternoon

and in the evening

they went missing.

How is that even possible?

We headed straight

for the school.

(ENGINE STARTS)

We saw a strange scene

when we reached there.

There was pin-drop

silence all around.

Everyone was fast asleep.

All the children, their caretakers,

everyone was in deep sleep.

We tried waking up two kids,

but they just couldn't get up.

As if someone had

given them sleeping pills.

They were in a state

of unconsciousness.

We shook them, but nothing.

There was a garden nearby

where we looked for them,

maybe they were sleeping

outside in the garden.

The caretaker

Pankaj Saxena told us

to take eleven rounds

of the large banyan tree

and pray to Asaram Bapu

that you find your children.

For about two hours, they

made us go around the tree

and we kept going

round and round.

(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

We couldn't sleep

at all that night.

We kept praying to God and

wondering where our children could be.

We waited in

anticipation all night.

(PENSIVE MUSIC)

But even in the morning the

children were nowhere to be found.

There was no news about them.

Pankaj Saxena,

who was the rector,

told us that he will

speak with Asaram Bapu,

in case he has any news

or information about

the two children.

We were told the children

had not returned yet.

Praful said since the

children are still missing,

we should file a

police complaint.

Pankaj Saxena then

interrupted us saying

he has a message

from Asaram Bapu.

Bapu has asked you to pick

up four stones from the road

and boil them in water.

That was his remedy

for our situation.

Asaram Bapu made them do

some superstitious practises.

(WATER BOILING)

This is how they

wasted crucial time.

They took no action.

(WATER BOILING)

It doesn't help if there's two

sets of parents plus other relatives,

who are looking for two

boys who've just gone missing.

Then my brother insisted

on filing a police report.

At least file a

report with the police

that the children are missing.

Neither did they file a complaint,

nor did they let us file one.

(TENSE SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

They took us to two police

stations, Chandkheda and Adalaj.

We spoke to the inspector there

and narrated the entire incident.

So much time has passed

and no action has been taken,

and the children still

haven't been found.

They did not lodge

a police report.

They just noted it as a

missing persons report.

An officer at Chandkheda

Police Station told us,

that don't expect your

children to be found.

He told us how numerous children

have gone missing

like this in the past.

(MUSIC CONTINUES)

(CLOCK TICKING)

What occurred had happened

under Asaram's watch.

The children were

their responsibility.

The Ashram is

surrounded by tight security,

so how could the

children step outside?

I pressurised the Ashram authorities

for a meeting with Asaram Bapu.

They told us that they

were unable to contact Bapu.

They gave us this excuse.

We spent the whole night

waiting at the Ashram.

We stayed hungry and thirsty,

for the sole hope of

finding our children.

On the third day, 5th

July, around 7:00 p.m.

The rector Pankaj Saxena,

called the Vaghelas again

and asked them to come

to the Ashram immediately.

One man had apparently

reported to the police

that he had seen the dead bodies

of two children behind the Ashram.

I went, "What?"

When the police

showed us the bodies,

I immediately identified

one of them as Dipesh.

Another body was

lying 10 feet ahead.

They asked me whose body this

was and I said it was Abhishek's body.

I literally died inside.

The condition of the body was such

that no parent could bear to see it.

The entire face was

swollen and covered in mud.

The torso was completely hollow.

One of the legs was missing.

The body was half-burnt.

Dipesh's t-shirt was

lying besides his body

and Abhishek had his clothes on.

He was wearing the

shorts and yellow t-shirt

provided by the boarding school.

Dipesh had no t-shirt on him.

-He was only wearing shorts.

-He was only wearing shorts.

So, the question arises:

"How did the children die?"

(SINISTER MUSIC)

That's the horrific condition

I saw my son's body in.

Why? What am I supposed to do?

Who did we put our faith in?

How could they do

this to our children?

These people whom we

considered our Guru, our God

they only k*lled our children.

We couldn't bear it

when we saw our

children in that condition.

(SINISTER MUSIC)

There came a time

when I was in two minds

whether I should take

these bodies home or not?

Because as per Hindu customs,

we keep the face of

the deceased visible

so that everyone can pay

their respects for one last time.

Despite what happened,

I mustered the courage

and brought their bodies home.

But we couldn't

reveal their faces.

The entire body

was just wrapped.

Post-mortem could still be

conducted on Abhishek's body

but Dipesh's body had nothing.

How could one perform

post-mortem on his body?

(SINISTER MUSIC)

On 5th July, when someone informed

that they had found the dead bodies,

that's when the police

came into action.

The time that was lost

in those two days resulted

in both the bodies being found

in a totally decomposed condition.

Everyone knew

that the government

is not going to take any

action against Asaram

because he had all

the political support.

What it does is, it also

really affects the morale

of policemen, of bureaucrats,

of government officials

who want to do their job

and perhaps investigate or

take on these spiritual leaders.

(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

I am not under any obligation

to respond to

baseless allegations.

Accuse me of whatever

you want, I don't care.

When Asaram Bapu

hasn't done any wrong,

then why should

he be disrespected?

I requested Bapu

to avoid direct communication

with these channels,

because there is a difference

between the people there

and a person of his stature.

So he should appoint someone

who is at least 16-17

levels junior than him

and give them the authority

to represent the Ashram.

Even if they commit a mistake

then Bapu would handle it.

Since July 2008,

I've been Bapu's

national spokesperson.

I represented the Ashram

in media conferences,

and would respond

on the Ashram's behalf.

And believe me, I've not

had to do anything myself.

Bapu made me do everything.

I repeat that this is

all part of a conspiracy.

This conspiracy will be exposed,

and the truth will come out.

There were two children who

were m*rder*d in the Ashram.

And we're expected

to do nothing about it?

A crime has been committed

and the truth will be exposed.

Even in "The

Mahabharata" you will see,

whatever evil act was perpetrated,

justice was finally served.

It was the same in

"The Ramayana".

Everyone gets justice,

even if it takes a long time.

But the truth always wins.

Come what may,

an honest person

will never back down.

(PURPOSEFUL MUSIC)

If someone's 8-year-old

child is ruthlessly m*rder*d,

it will definitely

break any parent.

But I was neutral

because after this incident I wanted

to forget about the Asaram Ashram.

But Asaram's people didn't

let me forget about him.

They involved me

again in this matter.

(NARAYAN SAI)

"What I want to say is

the 'tantra mantra' that I've

written, what about those?

What do you want

to do about it?"

(NARAYAN SAI'S

ASSOCIATE) "Aye Mahender.

I'm seriously telling you,

your corpse will leave

from your house tomorrow."

"I am seriously warning you

your corpse will leave

from your house tomorrow."

Isn't this a threat?

What will you do?

This is Narayan Sai's bodyguard.

(MUSIC INTENSIFIES)

You may call it God's

will or self-confidence,

a thought occurred in my mind

that this person must be exposed.

When the right moment

came, I came forward.

I am repeating this since 2008,

if any investigative agency of

the Government of India intervenes,

I will give the names of those

people involved in the k*lling

and the investigation

will expose the truth.