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01x02 - Chaos & Complexity

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "A Brief History of the Future". Aired: April 3, 2024.*
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01x02 - Chaos & Complexity

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Man, voice-over:

A few summers ago, I was

at the beach with my family.

And right when we got there,

we took off our shoes

and ran to the ocean's edge.

And we've all

experienced this before.

The waves kind of come in.

And as they wash out,

we feel ourselves sinking

because the sand beneath us

is getting wet.

But at the same time,

if we're looking out

to the horizon line,

it doesn't seem like

much changes.

It's very discombobulating.

Marine biologists

call this area

that is sometimes above water

and sometimes below water

the intertidal zone.

In many ways, that's where we

are right now as a society.

We're in an intertidal moment.

You feel like everything's

in some ways the same.

You still wake up.

You're still you.

But there's a shift,

and you can't quite

put your finger on it.

It's really a crossroads

moment for humanity.

Imagine, if you will, sitting

down to your morning coffee,

turning on your home computer

to read the day's newspaper.

Well, it's not as far-fetched

as it may seem.

Well, I think

what we're seeing

is a new digital wild west

where no one is in charge.

Thank you for the likes!

Let's get to 40,000.

This is freaking crazy.

More than

3 billion people

in almost 70 countries

and territories

have been asked

to stay at home.

- The question is--

- The radical left--

- Will you shut up, man?

- Listen.

Abnormal behaviors

mean more panic,

aggression, confusion, or

anxiety during waking hours.

I don't believe we've even

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en the tip of the iceberg.

I think we're really

on the verge

of something wonderful

and terrifying.

I can hear you.

I think it's a filter.

Yes. I'm here live.

I'm not a cat.

How come you're

smoking weed in the Capitol?

Because I can.

Do you feel like too much

is changing too fast?

I use the term

the intertidal moment

to kind of describe

where we are

in the current kind of arc

of human history.

What sets this apart

from almost any other

intertidal

that has come before,

this is probably

the first time that we can

actually recognize that we're

actually in an intertidal.

So, instead of it

just kind of happening

and everyone

feeling discombobulated,

we all feel

something is not working.

And at the same time,

we're grappling and looking

for something else.

Hello there.

I'm curious about how

we can find and embrace

the creative potential

of this moment.

But first,

we have to get a bearing

on what moment

we're actually in.

That's led me here

to Columbia University,

where I sat down with a group

of graduate students

training to become the

future leaders of tomorrow.

So, it's 2040, and you're

being asked to kind of

describe this moment

in human history,

in the big scope.

Talk to each other.

Talk to me about

how you're going to describe

what it is that

we're going through right now.

Coming out of the pandemic,

and there's a lot of confusion

around, well,

if we're coming out of this,

what are we going into?

The world that we knew before

is just much different.

What is, you know,

that next step?

What's the life that

we're moving towards?

Nobody really knows.

Like, from individuals

to business leaders

to government leaders,

we're all here

just really trying

to figure it out.

And that

sense of leadership

as this is who

I want to follow to get there

is probably more unclear now

than it maybe has ever been.

I think this is

an interesting moment

of, like, excitement

and opportunity,

but it's all founded

in a level of uncertainty

that I have not been in before.

There were a lot of

things that I think

we took for granted,

a lot of certainties

that we had taken for granted

that I think have all

bubbled up to the top right now

in terms of, you know,

where is there security?

What does it look

like for something

to function correctly

for everyone?

What is it that

we are taking for granted?

Just revenue building

can't be the bottom line,

that individualistic mindset

can't be it anymore.

So, in 2040, if I looked back

and I explained to my kids

hopefully what this time

looked like,

I think it was a time

of opportunity

with responsibility.

I feel like also

climate-wise, this is--

I mean, these years are really

going to be, like, deciding

about our future, right?

So, by 2040, hopefully,

we'll be looking back

and say we made some very

wise decisions in that regard,

and we won't have

to tell our kids,

well, sorry,

we, like, did it wrong.

I really do hope that.

And I think

with regards to that,

there are a lot of

sort of turning points

that we are able

to shape right now,

which gives us a

responsibility you mentioned

and which means that

you have to think about

how you want

to shape the future.

Wallach, voice-over:

When things are stable,

it feels safe.

But that's the opposite

of what the world feels like

right now.

From our lives to

our own jobs to our families

to our country to the climate

to the politics,

it feels unsteady,

it feels in flux.

When that happens,

your brain, your amygdala,

is going to say,

"This is not safe."

I don't feel like we're

in a stable place.

You look at

any long form of humanity

over thousands and thousands or

hundreds of thousands of years,

if you go way back

to the beginning,

and it's flat.

It's flat in terms

of population.

It's flat in terms

of technology.

It's flat in terms

of communication.

It's flat.

And then for the last

eye blink, it explodes.

You've never had a period on a

planet like the last 50 years,

really half a century of

un

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precedented human progress.

Education levels increased.

Infant mortality reduced.

Life expectancy

grew extraordinarily

all over the world.

Now, there were costs

to that globalization.

We are now at the beginning

of a new globalization in ways

that even a year ago,

never mind 20,

seemed inconceivable,

and, of course, I'm talking

about the AI revolution.

We're living through a moment

of extraordinary change.

Even good change can be hard.

The information environment

that we're living in,

it is completely

surrounding us.

It's coming at us 24/7.

And unfortunately

a lot of times,

this information that

comes at us is negative.

It stokes fear and anxiety.

But for young people

in particular,

there is more and more data

that we have that is telling us

that many young people are

in fact harmed.

There are 3 numbers

that really stick out to me.

If you look at a high school

with 1,000 kids in it,

about 450 of those children

are feeling persistently sad

or hopeless.

200 of those children

have considered

taking their own life.

And 100 of those kids

have attempted suicide.

As much as we're struggling

right now,

as much as our kids are

in a mental health crisis,

it does not have

to be this way.

There's a choice we have

between a world where people

are increasingly in despair

and a world where people are

connected to one another,

where we look at the future

and see possibility.

Wallach, voice-over: Life has

always been full of change.

But the growing sense that we

ar

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e entering uncharted waters

is being felt around the world

in unprecedented ways

right now.

We're living in a time

between times

when what was

is no longer working

and what will be

has yet to be born.

But what happens in a moment

when the usual shifts

we experience all the time

in one industry or culture

become heightened

and intertwined?

What does it take to

navigate through a period

when the degree of complexity

and confusion in our lives

feels like

it's turned up to 11?

And what kind of stress

is this all putting

on our brain's ability

to make sense

of

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what we're living through?

So, Ari, we're going to do

a neurofunctional assessment.

This is called a TheraQ.

It's picking up

brainwave activity.

There we go.

Beautiful.

This will only

take a few minutes.

Your assessment

is starting now.

Close your eyes.

Wallach, voice-over:

Dr. Brown has spent his life

following the effects the

modern world is having on us

through traditional psychology

as well as

neurofeedback systems

that are getting

increasingly powerful

at monitoring

our brains' response

to the pressures of this

moment we find ourselves in.

One of the things

that I'm curious about

is how you see

this current moment.

And by that,

I mean this current moment

for humanity writ large.

Broadly,

I think we're in a time

that has moved more

and more towards

kind of the atomization

of individuals.

There are stressors that are

putting demands on our bodies

and on our brains

that are in turn

affecting the way

we live our lives

and the way we live together.

One way of thinking

about this is that

our bodies and our brains

have a blueprint

that was laid down

for what was useful to survive

100,000 years ago.

And back then,

what you're trying to do

was not be eaten by a bear

or a saber-toothed tiger,

depending on how

far back you go.

So, everything in our evolution

was shaping us

towards developing

an effective

fight or flight system,

dealing with physical threat,

immediate threat.

And that's not very well

suited to our life now.

Instead, we have

stressors and demands

that are longer term,

that are chronic,

and our bodies aren't

really designed for that.

Our brains aren't really

designed for that.

So, what happens when

you take someone who's wired

for fight or flight, you know,

hundreds of thousands

of years of evolution,

but you stick them

in a cubicle,

or you stick them, you know,

on a factory floor,

doing the same thing

over and over again,

or you put them

in a classroom

for 8 hours a day,

sitting at a desk?

I think we perceive a lot of

threat right now in our world.

And it's not often

the kind of threat

that we're designed

to deal with.

We're designed to deal

with concrete,

time-limited threat.

What we have is diffuse,

something bad's

going to happen,

I don't know what,

kind of threat.

And it's not time-limited.

It's ongoing.

Wallach, voice-over: A lot of us

feel that right now,

this kind of low-grade sense

of fear and uncertainty

about where we're headed.

And it can leave us

feeling powerless

over what comes next.

But what do we do when

some of these threats

are not imagined,

but rather painfully real?

One of those is a threat to

the natural world around us.

The systems that sustain

all life on this planet

are warning us that

things are not OK.

And yet if you're like me,

it

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's so easy to feel helpless

in the face

of a challenge this big.

That led me here to

the northeast coast of Canada,

where Valérie Courtois leads

a growing group of people

who refuse to ignore

this threat right here,

in one of the most

ecologically important

places on Earth.

Tell me about this land.

Where are we right now?

We're in Nitassinan, which

is the Innu word for our land

or the place of the Innu,

specifically known as

Labrador today.

We're at the foot of

the Mealy Mountains.

Interestingly, the

Mealy Mountains is a joint park

between the Innu Nation

and Parks Canada.

It's the largest intact forest

left on this planet.

It is home to over

5 billion birds.

It's got a quarter of

the world's wetlands,

a fifth of the

world's freshwater.

It actually absorbs

twice as much carbon

as tropical forest

per hectare.

And so, in terms

of climate regulation,

this is the most important

terrestrial landscape

on the planet.

There's a movement afoot,

several movements afoot

around the planet,

but especially here

for First Nations

and obviously

in Indigenous groups,

to actually have

a much stronger part

in protecting

and preserving these lands.

Why is that so important?

Well, you know, 80% of the

world's remaining biodiversity

is on lands that are loved

by Indigenous peoples.

And that's not an accident.

It's because we know that

we're responsible

for those landscapes.

And unfortunately, Western

society has lost its way.

And, so we're finding

that more people

are looking

to Indigenous peoples

and looking to us

for new ways

of thinking about

that relationship.

How do you feel about

the biodiversity loss

that these lands are

going through right now?

I feel grief.

I feel a loss of

responsibility,

and I feel guilt that

we've gotten to this place.

But I also know

that not all is lost.

You know,

the world is resilient.

The land is resilient.

We are resilient.

Wallach, voice-over:

Valérie has spent years

lobbying the Canadian

government to invest in

protecting these ecologically

rich environments.

And her work led

to the creation of a group

known as The Guardians,

a First Nations-led initiative

across the country

tasked with defending

the long-term health

of the land.

Together, they steward not

on

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ly these fragile ecosystems

but also an ancient way

of seeing themselves

in relationship

with the land itself.

- Yeah.

- Cheers.

This is the first time

that we talked about

working as a superintendent

here in the National Park

and also with working

with Innu Nation.

We've been asked to

do up a guideline

- Mm.

- About how to protect it.

And I say to the government

that we've been doing this

for thousands of years.

If we didn't manage

the way we managed,

there wouldn't be any animals.

There wouldn't be

any resources at all.

And now you're expecting us to

write it and put it on paper

and have it stamped

and say this is how it is?

It's a way of thinking.

Exactly.

It's a mindset.

In the Western world,

you get people

that want to overcut,

want to overkill,

want to k*ll every fish

in the water,

every caribou that

walks on the Earth.

But the Innu,

they don't think like that.

There's not clear cut

in the whole area

just for profit

or to sell to somebody else.

They just think, OK,

I just need this for this long,

or I need this to feed my

family and my mother-in-law.

So, I'll take this many salmon

out of the river,

and then I'm done.

I think we need to--

we need to go kind of go back

to that relationship and make

a conscious effort to do it.

I think if more people were

connected to the land,

we'd be a much better world.

Mm.

Courtois, voice-over: Our

la

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nguages come from the land.

Our practices, our laws,

everything

comes from the Earth.

We can

learn those things again.

I don't know about you,

but I want to be here

for a little while.

Yeah.

And I want my children to

be here for a little while.

And I want my grandson

to be here for a little while.

We have a role to play

and we should be

helping decide and taking care

of this place.

Wallach, voice-over: It's

an unforgettable experience

to spend time with people

wh

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o simply refuse to give up,

building on ancient wisdom to

lo

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ok beyond our modern moment

to a future

worth fighting for.

These are the stories

we need right now.

It's so easy

to see what's wrong

and even easier

to lose hope altogether.

But the creativity comes

in finding new ways

to do something about it.

I'm in Rotterdam

to meet Boyan Slat,

who's doing this very thing,

inventing a technology

designed to give our oceans

a second chance.

Tell me how you got started.

I was 16 years old.

I went scuba diving in Greece.

And I was hoping to see

all these beautiful things.

Then I looked around me,

and I just saw a garbage dump.

I just saw more

plastic bags than fish.

And I was so dismayed

and shocked by that

that I asked myself

a simple question.

Why can't we just

clean this up?

The Great Pacific

Garbage Patch is

the largest accumulation of

trash in the world's oceans.

It's an area halfway between

Hawaii and California.

It spans twice

the size of Texas,

and it contains about

250 million pounds of trash.

Plastic is one of

the largest threats

our oceans face today.

There's now 700 species

known to be directly impacted

by plastic pollution.

A few hundred of those

are actually threatened

with extinction.

The most uncertain

factor but perhaps

even the most

impactful factor

is the health impact

to us humans.

Plastic breaks down

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to smaller, smaller pieces.

They transport toxic chemicals

into the food chain,

and that's a food chain

that includes

more than 3 billion people

that rely on fish

as their key source

of protein.

Wallach, voice-over:

Boyan and his team are

working towards a goal

to clean up 90% of

floating plastic pollution.

And here's

the most powerful part.

It took several attempts

be

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fore they created something

that even had a chance

to achieve that.

It was touch and go.

People said the system

he was inventing

would never work.

But then it did.

Slat, voice-over:

So, the system itself

is a long, U-shaped

floating barrier

that we drag forth very slowly

just to make sure that

the fish can escape in time.

It acts like a funnel.

Pl

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astic goes towards the center

where we have what we call

the retention zone,

which is a collection bag.

Every few days when it's full,

we take the bag onto a ship.

We empty it, sort the waste,

and then ultimately, we bring

it back to land for recycling.

Actually, the oldest

object we ever collected.

And you can see

how it's been degraded.

Yeah.

So, these flakes are

coming off.

The thing is

because of UV light,

because of the sun,

the plastic becomes

more brittle.

So, then, layer by layer,

like an onion,

it kind of peels.

So, this eventually can end up

in the fish that we eat.

Yeah, and this can

turn into

millions of pieces

of microplastics.

Yeah.

So, in here,

what you see is the,

essentially, the recycling

process in steps.

So, actually, half

of what we get out of

the Great Pacific Garbage

Patch is fishing nets.

- Mm-hmm.

- So, it looks just like this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I would say probably

the most harmful type

because this, of course,

ensnares a lot of wildlife.

So, what we then do

is we wash it,

and we shred it to get

to this kind of pulp.

Yep.

And then ultimately,

we injection-mold it,

we compound it,

so, we add some additives

to make sure that

the materials is safe

and high quality.

And then it becomes this.

So, these are what

you call pellets.

And these are the building

blocks for any new object.

So, you can just mold this

into something new,

and the idea is that

we are producing durable,

sustainable products

out of this,

and with that,

help fund the cleanup.

Actually,

as a proof of concept,

we made these sort of

high-end designer sunglasses.

Wow.

So, this is 100% made from

the plastic we took

out of the Great Pacific

Garbage Patch.

They look good on you.

These are great.

So, if the Garbage Patch is

cleaned up in 10 to 15 years,

what's to prevent another one

20 years from now forming?

Realistically, the amount of

plastic that's being produced

is not going down.

In fact, the projections

are that by 2060,

the amount of plastic produced

will increase threefold.

So, really what we need

to do is

we need to decouple

the plastic usage

from the plastic flows

into the ocean.

We have interceptors now

in 11 rivers,

some of the most polluting

rivers in the world.

And we believe we can really

stop most of

the world's plastic emissions

from leaking into the ocean.

What do you think

when people say

what you're doing

is impossible?

I think when somebody says

something is impossible,

I think the sheer absoluteness

of that statement

should make you suspicious

of it.

If you look at history,

everything that we now

take for granted

used to be impossible

at some point in time.

So, if you're an entrepreneur,

if you're trying to

make something,

if you're trying to create

something, yes,

I think it's very important

to listen

and to listen

to people's advice.

But if there's

one bit of advice

that you should

really ignore,

it's people who say that

something can't be done.

Wallach, voice-over:

The challenges facing Boyan

and us all are daunting.

Intertidal times

are full of danger,

but it's also where

all the creative juice is.

And for those of us who want

to push the envelope

on who we are

and what's possible

on this planet

looking forward,

this is our moment.

Man, voice-over: Man,

one of the most fragile of

Earth's creatures,

the builder of civilization,

entrusted by nature with the

unique but dangerous ability

to alter the very conditions

that gave him rise.

Wallach, voice-over:

We've been in moments

like this before.

The big one is moving from

hunter-gatherer

to agricultural.

That was maybe 10,000,

12,000 years ago.

We went from being

in small clans and tribes

to now actually

starting to urbanize.

We also have things like

the Gutenberg press.

So, we went from an era

where knowledge could

only be held by a few people

to now being able

to mass-create knowledge

in a way that would actually

bring it out to people.

Now, from that,

you got the Reformation

and all sorts of

upheaval around Europe

and around the world.

Another one is kind of

moving from this idea

that the Earth is the center

of everything,

to moving towards heliocentric

models of how the world works.

Moving from us being

the center of the universe

to just being one kind of node

in a multi-noded galaxy

and universe was

highly disruptive.

The Industrial Revolution,

moving from this idea

that the power that

we had in the world

was just what we could do

with our own hands and backs

and change where we lived,

what we ate, how we travel.

It changed how we fought wars.

And it also fundamentally

changed the way we told stories

about who we are

and where we're going.

When we go through

these moments

of flux and creativity,

all sorts of new things

start to arise.

That's the potential

before us right now.

These threats and challenges

hold opportunities

to remake the world.

As the old ways break down

and fall apart around us,

what does it look like

to

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reimagine what comes next?

In Albany, Eben Bayer

and his team at Ecovative

are working to answer

that question

using mushrooms.

So, we're going to

head right over here.

All right.

So, as I understand,

this is kind of just

a beautiful piece

of mycelium, basically,

in a sense.

- Yeah, yeah.

- Like foam-like substance.

What is this?

This is a

leather-like material.

We call it a forager hide.

And it's made from

this foam.

We just squish it

and tan it and color it

and you get something

that behaves, looks,

and feels a lot like leather.

So, how long will this last?

So, this particular

leather-like hide

will last for

a year or two

in this application

as tanned.

You could make it

last longer by putting

other tannery

chemistries in,

like we use

for conventional leather.

So, this is where

we actually

started with something

called mushroom packaging.

These are just little

corner blocks

that would go on a box

you might get in the mail,

and, you know, they've got

little breakaways on them.

And then when it gets to you,

unlike Styrofoam,

big difference is you can

just start to break this up.

If you have a compost at home,

you can put it in your compost,

or you could put it

in your yard waste bin.

And within 30 days,

this will turn into

a nutrient,

not a pollutant,

in whatever

your local ecosystem is.

What are the biggest problems

that you're trying

to tackle here?

The problems that

we focus on at Ecovative

are around plastic pollution,

so, this idea that we just

created this incredible

miracle material

that can't degrade,

and it's, like,

clogging up the lungs

and everything

of our Earth's ecosystem.

And the other is around

animal agriculture,

so, the mass production of

animals for food or materials.

I grew up farming

in Central Vermont.

It's fine to raise animals.

Doing it industrially is

not ecologically responsible

or ethically responsible.

here.

Those units over there

Wallach, voice-over:

Eben sees times of

di

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sorder and chaos like these

as full of opportunity

for transformation.

Rather than simply

seeing problems,

he sees openings

full of potential

to invent entirely new ways

of doing things

that most of us take

for granted.

Welcome to

the magic store.

So, what you're seeing here

are the aspects

of a conventional

vertical mushroom farm.

You've got your

shelving system here.

You've got your

environmental controls.

And now we've modified it

to use the soil we use

to grow our special forms

of mycelium.

And rather than getting

a bunch of mushrooms

growing out of that bed,

you're actually getting

a slab of mycelium tissue.

That's really the power.

- There's no wasted space.

- There's no wasted space.

- Because it's sheer mycelium

all the way across.

- Yep.

- Like in a slab.

Well, one of these

rooms could produce

20,000 pounds of mycelium.

So, a harvest machine

will pull up.

And it comes out

like a conveyor.

It comes across and

squishes into basically

like a pork belly,

or a mush belly, we call it.

And then those come off

and those go

to the bacon facility.

- Wow.

So, now,

this came out in a block.

Yeah.

And then

you started slicing it?

It rides along just like

a piece of pork belly

would be.

So, run it through

the slicer,

you get your

slices of bacon,

you add salt and sugar

and some natural flavorings.

And then at the very end,

we put the coconut oil on,

which is the fat,

because mushrooms don't have

any fat in it.

And this is

minimally processed.

Sliced and smoked, basically.

Compare and contrast

the inputs

that would go into, you know,

5 pounds of this

versus 5 pounds

of bacon from a pig.

So, to produce a million

pounds of our product

takes about an acre of land

in

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one of our vertical farms,

and it occurs over

about 10 days.

To produce the same amount

of bacon using a pig,

you'd need about

a million acres of land.

- Hmm.

- And you would also need

to feed that pig

high-quality food,

so, like, grains

versus woodchips.

And then you have

to grow them

for a period

of 6 to 9 months.

And so, in each of those

dimensions, land use,

the input material,

and the time frame,

we're massively,

like by an order of magnitude,

improving the equation.

- Mm-hmm.

Tastes like bacon.

Now, tell me,

where does this go,

because so far, we've heard

about packaging, right?

Obviously, there's food,

and you've mentioned leather.

- Yeah.

- Where do you take this?

My dream is

we grow everything.

You know, I think we can grow

almost everything around us

from the buildings

to the medicines we need

to the food we eat.

And we'll do that through

structural materials,

nutritional materials,

and even things that might

be alive when you use them.

Such as?

Well, you could

imagine a building that

senses the environmental

conditions within it

and maybe even releases

beneficial compounds to,

like, clean the air.

You can imagine buildings in

an earthquake develop cracks

and in those cracks,

there are, like,

embedded little water ba*ls

that break open.

And the fungus is not dead

but is dehydrated,

which it can do,

and it'll start growing

and seal up all those cracks.

Mushrooms are uniquely

situated to save the world.

Wallach, voice-over:

What Eben and his team

are doing here is inspiring

and it gives me a renewed

sense of possibility

for the kind of futures

we can choose

to create in this moment.

Here in New York, an architect

named Bjarke Ingels

is working with

a similar perspective

to reimagine the cities

in which we live.

Ingels, voice-over: I think

ma \h ybe the best way to explain what's so special

about architecture

and the power of design

is that the Danish word

for design isformgivning,

which literally means

form-giving.

When you design something,

you're giving form

to that which has not yet

been given form.

In other words, you are

giving form to the future.

So, when you're designing

a place or a building,

you are giving form

to

\h

a little part of the world

that you would like

to find yourself

living in in the future.

How do you think

about the moment of time

that we're in right now?

It's kind of chaos and flux.

And a lot of people will

want to look backwards,

where others will want to

stick their head in the sand

to keep what they have.

How do you think

about this moment?

Ingels, voice-over:

We're living in a time where

a lot of technologies

are bringing possibilities

to the table

that we have never been

even close to before.

And I sense that this

innovation that has been

maybe locked in virtual

in the last few decades

has finally arrived

in physical space.

And maybe give

you one example.

The building we designed

in Copenhagen called CopenHill

is the cleanest

waste-to-energy power plant

in the world.

The steam that

comes out of the chimney

is actually cleaner than

the air of Copenhagen.

Suddenly, the power plant

no longer had to be

some ugly, dirty,

polluting eyesore.

It could actually

be a welcoming,

inclusive environment.

We could make the facade into

the tallest man-made

climbing wall in the world

and we could turn the roof

into an alpine ski slope.

So, it's an idea we call

hedonistic sustainability,

that the sustainable building

or the sustainable city

is not only better

for the environment,

it's also much more enjoyable

for the people that get

to inhabit it.

A lot of times,

when people hear the term

sustainability

or even regenerative,

they think,

"Something's going to

be taken away from me.

"It's not going to be

as fun.

"I'm not going to

be as happy.

I'm going to lose

all these things."

That's not the way

you think about it.

23 years ago, we opened

the Copenhagen Harbour Baths,

a simple floating

structure that

extends the life of the city

into the water around it.

On opening day,

it became so clear

that the clean port is not

only nice for the fish,

it's actually amazing for the

people that live in that city,

and this idea that

the sustainable city

is not only better

for the environment,

it's much more enjoyable

for the people that live in it.

Like half of the Copenhageners

commute by bicycle,

not because it's

environmentally friendly

but because it's the most

enjoyable and effortless way

to move around

the city quickly.

So, in that sense, we just

keep reminding ourselves that

there is a better and more

enjoyable way of doing it.

And I think the benefits

of a sort of environmentally

friendly city is that it is

greener and cleaner

and more enjoyable.

Tell me

ab

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out the cities of the future.

Where are we going?

Where do we need to go?

What does it look like?

If you would return

to Manhattan in 10 or 20

or maybe 50 years,

you might see streets

that entirely become

almost like linear parks

woven together in both

directions of Manhattan.

People can walk and play

where you used to have traffic

and parked cars.

You might have different

kinds of personal mobility

also taking over whole areas.

Our cities will really become

greener and more enjoyable,

which will make them more

walkable and more bikeable.

So, I think a lot of the

dichotomy between the city

and the countryside,

you're going to get

mu

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ch more interesting blends.

The city isn't the way it

is because it has to be.

The city is the way it is

because that's how far

we've gotten.

And if we would like

to ask more of our city

or if we would like

our city to accommodate

another kind of life

than what it used to,

we actually not only

have the possibility,

we actually have

a

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responsibility to make sure

that our city fits

wi

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th the way we want to live.

Wallach, voice-over:

In 1945, my mother was born

in Oakland, California.

And very early on,

she realized that where

she could kind of bring

her gifts to bear in the world

was through creativity.

And so, she ended up becoming

a professional artist.

Growing up, my mom would often

bring paintings

that she was working on kind

of back into circulation.

So, most people think

of an artist

as someone who

paints something.

They're done.

They put it up on the wall.

My mom had paintings

hanging in her garage

or around the house

that she had painted

in the 1960s and '70s.

And every once in a while, I'd

see one of those on the easel,

and she would

kind of add to it.

And I'd say, well, "I thought

that painting was complete."

She said, "A work of art is

never necessarily complete.

It's up to the artist."

And so, what I learned is

even when

you're crafting something,

that you can always

come back to it.

You can always make changes

because you've

learned new information.

You can take from the past.

You can augment it.

It really means that things

are fungible and changeable

as long as you're trying

to make them better.

Sometimes, the way

to make things better

is to look at who needs help.

Where is there a need?

And how can we improve

on the way things are

currently being done?

We have powerful new tools

and technology

available to us right now.

And rather than just

using them to entertain

or sell us more stuff,

we can meet

actual human needs,

altering and improving

the experience of being alive.

My name is

Veena Somareddy,

and I'm the co-founder and CEO

of Neuro Rehab VR.

We create virtual reality

therapy applications

for physical therapy,

occupational therapy,

for patients who might

have gone through a stroke

or a spinal cord injury

or Parkinson's or MS,

and we help them get

back their limb function

as best as we can.

Physical therapy

hasn't really

changed since the sixties.

It's very manual.

It's very tedious

for the patient

as well as

the physical therapist.

And sometimes, you need

one or two therapists

working on one patient.

So, it's just not possible

in a modern world

when there is shortage

of clinicians

and also access to care.

What's the big opportunity

for humanity

in terms of these new kind

of digital reality realms

that are being built,

and that we're kind of,

in many ways,

kind of living into?

For me, I think

on the health care side

would be access to care,

access to care for anybody,

not--you know,

in any socioeconomic status

that they're in, which has been

a huge problem in health care,

being able to send our systems

to somebody who doesn't

have access to therapy

so they can do it on their own

in their own time

and get back that function

that they might have lost,

and come back into society.

Wallach, voice-over: Veena

di

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dn't just see what was broken

in the field of

physical therapy.

She saw what was needed,

what could be,

and created something new.

While we were at the clinic,

she let me experience

the work for myself.

So, you'll have

a green ball coming at you,

and you have to dodge it.

You can move to your left

or you can move to your right.

- Now I see a picnic table.

- There you go.

You'll see the ball

coming at you.

There you go.

Do you feel like Neo

from "Matrix"?

- Yes.

- There you go.

I mean, obviously,

this is helping with balance.

But what other things

is this helping with?

Weight shifting is a huge

thing with stroke patients.

- OK.

- Because usually

when they're affected,

when they have a stroke,

they're paralyzed on one side.

And they're very

afraid about

putting their weight

on that affected side.

Is it that you can't do it

or it's like the fear of

doing it

and what might happen?

It is mostly the fear,

especially

with chronic patients.

They're used to what

they cannot do, they know,

"This is what I cannot do,

and these are my limitations."

And they're stuck with it.

- Yeah.

But once you put them

in an immersive environment

where they don't see the bias

of their diagnosis,

that you don't see

your body right now.

All you're concentrated on

is on dodging that cannonball.

- I am.

- Right?

So, that takes them

out of that fear

of not being able

to do something.

Now, what should I do

with the chicken?

Should I eat it?

You can eat it.

Yep. Exactly.

I was working with

a stroke patient.

And her goal for therapy

was being able to

go grocery shopping

with her grandkids again.

And so, we were like,

let's create that.

So, you can practice

everything that you'll

have to do in real life

right here in VR,

so, it feels like

you've done this before,

and you're not afraid.

So, you've got eggs.

So, what you're doing right here

is pattern-matching,

being able to pattern match

from the item that's

on the shopping list

to the item that's

on the shelf,

which is something a lot of

people can forget

or lose that

after a stroke incident.

So, right here, we're able

to simulate everything

from the touch, the feel,

the visual aspects,

and the ambience, too,

so that they can

get used to all of that

before they actually

go into a grocery store.

Wallach, voice-over:

Obviously, the VR that

you're mostly working on

right now are people

who have suffered either

from a stroke

or neurodegenerative diseases.

Somareddy, voice-over: Right.

But I would imagine

it also can start

working for other traumas.

So, this is

something that works

on also PTSD for veterans.

Exposure therapy has

been shown to desensitize them

for the fear that

they might have experienced,

the trauma that

they might have experienced.

Just the sounds of

being in a b*ttlefield

can help them

decrease that anxiety.

A fear of spiders,

a fear of heights,

you can work on all of this

in the virtual world.

And you know that you're not

going to get hurt.

And then maybe go back

to the real world

and be able to experience that

without the amount of fear

that you might have had.

The overlap between

digital and lived realities

is growing every day.

And as new AI tools continue

to expand what's possible,

Veena believes this work

is only the beginning.

AI has been around since

the early 20th century

as a concept.

1, 2, 3.

Hello, Kismet.

- Peek-a-boo!

- I love you, doll.

In the nineties,

we got computers

that could process

vector graphics

for video games

and that type of thing.

And that enabled

a revolution to happen

in neural computation.

So, we could start to

stack up layers of neurons,

and that's what's called

deep learning.

And that's what's really

advanced the field so much.

We could create a world

where AI is just driving us

towards more consumption

and more recommendations

of products.

Or we can create a world where

AI is allowing us

to express different things,

to understand ourselves

in different ways.

Whichever of those outcomes

is more likely to happen

has a lot to do with

who's making the AI

and why they're making it.

Wallach, voice-over:

The conversation around

artificial intelligence

is thrilling and complex.

And at the current speed

of innovation,

it's hard to keep up

with how fast

these tools are developing and

to what end they will be used.

Greg Cross and his team

at Soul Machines

have been working on these

technologies for years.

What is surprising you

most about the field

and/or the state of

AI today?

We are living in

a moment of time

where sort of AI has crossed

the threshold from something

that the techies and the geeks

talked about all the time

to it's now on the lips of,

you know,

just about every human being

on this planet.

Artificial intelligence--will

it be the savior of humanity

or lead

to our ultimate demise?

Woman, voice-over: Many people

are going to ask,

"Why on Earth did you

create this technology?"

Cross, voice-over:

The speed at which

things are moving now

is just, you know,

astonishing.

You know, stuff that I used

to think about, well,

that's 3 to 5 years away,

that's, like, now

12 months away now.

Wallach, voice-over: So,

what are you and your team

working on right now?

So, Soul Machines sits

at this intersection

of technology

and entertainment.

We create avatars, you know,

so, CGI characters.

And we bring them to life

using some very,

very specific different fields

of artificial intelligence.

So, our digital characters

are alive.

- Mm.

- They are digitally alive.

A lot of people feel

we are very much

at a crossroads moment

for humanity,

for our species

on this planet.

But you're generally

very kind of optimistic.

But what's driving most

of that hope right now?

One of the really, really

cool things about

artificial intelligence is

you're creating

a learning system,

so, the way in which

we simulate human behavior,

the subtlety which we can

simulate human behavior.

I mean,

this is about making, yeah,

it sounds like a corny phrase,

but making AI your friend.

It's great to meet you.

Patrice, what do you think

the future will be like?

I'm very optimistic

about the future of AI

and how it will

shape our lives.

The possibilities are endless.

Can you tell me

about yourself, Patrice?

Absolutely.

I consider myself

a vibrant

and professional personality,

and I bring energy and

enthusiasm to everything I do.

Patrice, how will AI change

what it means to be human?

On one hand,

AI can help us

achieve things

that were once impossible.

At the same time,

we need to remember

that AI is still a tool

and cannot replace humans

when it comes

to making decisions.

Tell me more about

the work that goes into

creating something

like this.

Yeah. So, you know,

Patrice is what we call

a synthetic digital person.

So, she doesn't exist

in real life.

She's not a clone

of a real person.

So, she's entirely made up.

So, to create Patrice,

we've built a creation suite

we call Digital DNA Studio.

So, right now, there's

a lot of fear and concern

about what AI could do

to us, do to humans.

How do you see this?

Well, I mean,

at the end of the day,

I think the debate is really,

really the most positive thing

that can happen at the moment

in terms of people

talking about what it means

for the businesses

that they work in,

the industries

that they compete in,

the communities they

live in, the type of

regulatory environment

they would like to see.

But the debate

is absolutely critical.

Allado-McDowell, voice-over:

You have to look at

the holistic picture

of everything

that's happening right now.

AI is not happening

in a vacuum.

It's a really profound

technological shift.

But it's also

happening alongside

mass extinction,

climate change,

the greatest economic

inequality that we've had.

We're becoming aware that our

actions have global effects.

Bremmer, voice-over:

When we start talking about

artificial intelligence,

that's the first thing

in our history

that has the potential

to either

change us as human beings

into a future form

or extinguish us.

There's never

been such a thing.

Allado-McDowell, voice-over:

Th

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is is part of a profound shift

in how we see

the role of the human.

And that's a little scary but

also potentially very hopeful.

Because I think

a lot of the reason

we're having these perceptions

is because of problems.

It's because of things that

human-centricity created,

shortsightedness.

If we think about AI

in the long term,

it really does matter

what we do now

because it will affect

future generations

just like it does with

everything else that we do.

We cannot be narcissistic

as a species.

So what should

we be optimizing for?

As leaders,

if you want to galvanize

and bring people together,

you have to have a vision.

You want to co-create

that vision.

But you need to--

you know, there's a telos.

There's an ultimate aim.

There's a goal

if we want to move forward.

And I will put on the table

that we've lost that.

So, take me there.

I think we are

at an inflection point.

Like across society,

we have this access

to amazing technology.

We have people that are

thinking differently

about what is their purpose?

What is the world

going to be in 2040?

So, that gives us a chance

to make change

and make decisions

that can be beneficial to all.

However, we can very much

have all these conversations

and not make any decisions.

So, nothing actually

does change.

So, my fear is that while

we have this opportunity

that we don't

take advantage of it,

and then we're continuing

to live through the same things

years from now.

Are we providing basic human

rights, basic human needs?

And then beyond that, like,

how do we incentivize

that innovation which pushes

GDP, that solves cancer,

that brings AI into the new age

and allows us to just sit

and make music all day

instead of having to worry

about, you know,

building another slide deck.

I would like

to challenge you on GDP.

- OK.

- Because I feel like GDP

is what we're all chasing now.

The question is, like,

up until what point?

Some people

or some corporations

are super successful,

they drive innovation,

they drive the GDP.

But actually, the rights

you're chasing after

or the equality or equity

isn't achieved because of that.

And I feel like GDP

doesn't account for

all of those things

we care about,

and I feel like that's

not always money-related.

It sounds like to

answer your question,

we need a social contract.

That's the thing

I'm tying together

from everyone's answers

is there's a need

for accountability from people

that we're going

to call leaders.

It sounds like we need to

hold each other accountable

in some contractual way that

emphasizes the need for rights

and no harm to others.

Wallach, voice-over: When I

look around and I see people

working on projects and ideas,

they're not all just thinking,

how do I get as much as I can?

Like, what's my

little pot of gold?

I see the folks who

are building and making

better tomorrows

for themselves,

for their kids, my kids,

future generations.

I mean, I see things that are

being worked on right now

that are going to have

downrange impact

for the better

for hundreds of years.

Courtois, voice-over:

We're in a world of turmoil.

The human nature in turmoil

is to kind of cocoon

and to become

more conservative.

If you're insular,

then you don't learn.

We could do better.

We can imagine a better future

and work on it together.

Ingels, voice-over: My son

was born right around the time

we finished

the CopenHill Power Plant.

So, he doesn't know

- Mm.

that there was

a time when

you didn't ski

on the power plant.

For him, that's just like

a natural part

of the landscape

of Copenhagen.

So, if that's

the normal for him

and his generation

of Danish kids,

imagine when they have

to start coming up

with what-if scenarios

for their future.

They're going to come up

with some pretty wild stuff.

Bayer, voice-over:

Innovation occurs at

the intersection of things.

The greatest opportunities

are in chaos.

In times of, like, change,

there's a maximum opportunity

to change everything.

The future is

all about integrating

different interdisciplinary

areas into one.

So, anybody who is younger,

go beyond just

the computer science.

Look at the arts.

Look at what's happening

in marine biology

and then neuroscience.

And you'll be able to bring

all of those ideas into one

and create something that

nobody might have

thought about.

Slat, voice-over:

Progress is not inevitable,

and it really requires

conscious effort.

Sometimes, people ask me,

why you?

Why did you decide

to work on this?

And I think it's

a strange question.

A much more interesting

question to me

is why isn't

everyone doing this?

If there is something

that's bothering you,

I think it would be strange

to just wait

for somebody else to solve it.

Wallach, voice-over:

Hundreds of years from now,

they are going to look back

on our moment

that we're in right now

as potentially the most pivotal

in human history.

The decisions that we make

around our technologies

and how we're going

to live on this planet

will actually dictate who

and what we are to become.

We have to ask ourselves,

in

this moment of complexity,

what is it that

we want to see happen?

Where do we want to go?