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Taking Venice (2023)

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Taking Venice (2023)

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[soft, eerie music playing]

[soft music playing]

[indistinct speaking]

[man 1] We have been placed

in a difficult

and disagreeable position.

[camera clicks]

Rumors of connivance

are spreading,

centered on

the last-minute movement

of the Rauschenberg paintings

to the American Pavilion.

The press response has been

indignation and hysteria.

[suspenseful music playing]

The public reaction:

Bewilderment.

This is indeed a nightmare,

because it is plain

that we could win the prize.

[man 2] The Venice Biennale

was the Olympics of art.

Each country would have

its own pavilion,

and show an artist

that competes against

all the others.

It was a big fiesta

of nationalism.

[man 3] 1964 was the first time

the American government

was involved.

It clearly had

a kind of ambition.

[woman 1] American agencies

sending art into Europe

had to make people wonder,

you know,

to what end could this be used?

[man 2] People were saying that

this was a nefarious plot

to make an American

the winner of the grand prize.

[woman 2] We didn't cheat.

We wanted to win the prize

and show that we had

some great art.

And we thought

with Rauschenberg

we had a very good chance.

[man 2] It changed the way

American art was perceived.

[soft music playing]

It also changed Rauschenberg.

[Robert] I had moments

where I thought

that everything

would be much better,

if I... if I hadn't

been so lucky.

[solemn music playing]

[water lapping]

[boat engine humming]

[boat horn honks]

[indistinct chatter]

[seagull calls]

[man 4] When I heard

that I was gonna do

the National Pavilion,

I started thinking,

"Where is actually

the border of America?"

Like, when does it start?

At the brick?

At the little bricks around it?

When you're inside?

And I just thought,

"I'm gonna just erase

the whole thing."

I'm just gonna dump

a bunch of gravel

so it looks like

an abandoned site.

People don't even know

that it's art.

And then the inside

is where the fun starts.

Perhaps the water and the paper

makes it very black.

I like to take something

that kind of exists

and have a metamorphosis go on.

But still,

some of the history

clings to it.

[suspenseful music playing]

[woman 3] Art is not

only about art,

it's also about power

and it's about politics.

When you have the power,

you show it through the art.

One of the intriguing subplots

of the Biennale

all through the decades,

more than a century,

has been how art

and politics overlap.

And it peaks, there's a kind

of high-altitude moment

with the American presence

in 1964.

It reverberates through history.

[energetic music playing]

[woman 4] Oh!

It's a long story.

I helped start

the Gallery of Modern Art

in Washington in '62.

My husband was intelligence

and research

in the State Department.

And we knew the Kennedys

from way back, way back.

This was the first year that

the United States government

was behind the show

at the Venice Biennale.

And it fell to USIA.

[majestic music playing]

[man 5] United States

Information Agency

had been created to persuade

the rest of the world

that liberal democracy

was a better way of life

than the dictatorship

or authoritarian alternatives.

[engines roaring, cheering]

[man 6] The United States

is in the midst

of the Cold w*r

with the Soviet Union.

[Louis] We thought the future

of humanity was at stake.

[man 6] We had to go out

and win hearts and minds.

[news broadcasts play

in various languages]

[Louis] There's a kind

of cultural Cold w*r.

[singing in Russian]

[majestic music playing]

[mellow jazz music playing]

America had to show

that it was not just a country

of cars and bubblegum,

that it was a country

in which serious art,

serious literature,

could be created.

[soft, suspenseful music

playing]

[man 6] And so USIA were

looking for cultural weapons,

guided missiles,

something that they can take,

and they can use,

and it will hit

a specific target.

And the big stage for art

was the Venice Biennale.

No American had ever won

the international prize

for painting.

[in Italian]

[suspenseful music playing]

[man 7] The government had

had no previous involvement

in that field at all.

So the Venice Biennale

was an interesting question,

which the agency

had never faced before.

How do we choose the person

to put this exhibition together?

[Alice] I knew the head

of the Fine Arts Department

of USIA quite well.

So I suggested, I said,

"Why don't you go

and interview Alan Solomon?"

He was everywhere in New York.

I just thought he was

very knowledgeable, young,

new on the scene.

[Calvin] And Solomon

made a beeline for Castelli.

[woman 3] Leo Castelli was known

as a successful,

ambitious art dealer,

but also a kind of, you know,

how do you call it...

Castelli was

an ultimately cosmopolitan man.

He was a Jewish,

Italian from Trieste.

He was at home anywhere he was.

[Calvin] Castelli liked Alan

immediately.

[Leo] He was a professor

of art history

at Cornell University.

And, uh, he appeared one day

at my gallery.

He had a hearing aid

and a ready-made suit.

But he was

terribly enthusiastic

about art that was happening

in America.

He had total knowledge of it.

And he also understood

right away

what was happening

under his nose,

not like many others.

So anyway,

he became the director

of the Jewish Museum.

[Calvin] The Jewish Museum

wasn't really known

for contemporary art.

They had some shows,

but they weren't shows

that anybody I knew went to.

[funky music playing]

All of a sudden, there was

this young, savvy director.

[indistinct chatter, laughter]

And he turned it

into a red-hot center

of contemporary art.

[Leo] This shy,

rather withdrawn man

that had appeared, say,

back in '58 at the gallery,

had undergone an operation

which made it unnecessary

for him to have a hearing aid.

His clothes

were custom-tailored.

He had become

a very elegant man

with a great deal of authority.

[Calvin] And the person he chose

for his debut exhibition

was this

amazingly advanced artist,

Robert Rauschenberg.

[vibrant rock music playing]

He had been the bte noire

of the American

art establishment

for about 10 years.

Most of the artists

of the older generation

felt he wasn't serious,

that he wasn't a serious artist,

that his stuff

was too haphazard,

too jokey, too of the moment.

[Robert] I was

considered a clown

by nearly everyone else.

And not just a clown,

that's not true,

but like a novelty.

[man 8] Rauschenberg's work

was literally branded

"anti-art."

[funky music playing]

Critics couldn't imagine

why people would want

to illustrate junk this way.

[vibrant rock music playing]

[Calvin] Rauschenberg's

retrospective

at the Jewish Museum

was such a bombshell.

It was like a flash

of lightning.

Bang, bang, bang.

[Leo] That Rauschenberg show

was a tremendous event.

You can't imagine

the fantastic impact

that it had,

favorable and, uh,

mostly unfavorable.

[sphere whirring]

The daring of Alan Solomon

seemed absolutely incredible.

[Hiroko]

[soft, tense music playing]

[Ed] I guess he was

a little nervous

because I don't think

he had ever dealt

with the bureaucracy

of the U.S. government before.

And that's where Alice came in.

[Alice] Alan said,

"Well, Alice, you can be

the vice commissioner."

That's how I became involved.

[Calvin] He immediately knew

that he wanted Rauschenberg

to be the first American to win

the international prize

for painting.

[Hiroko] So from the outset,

he really started planning

the agenda,

how to win this game.

[energetic music playing]

[typewriter clacking]

[Alice] This was

our first chance

to make a statement

from the United States

government.

We wanted to win the prize

and show that we had

some great art.

And we thought

with Rauschenberg,

we had a very good chance.

[Calvin] Rauschenberg seemed

like the most American

of all the American artists.

[lively music playing]

There was sort of a joyous,

unconstrained energy about it.

[announcer] So stay on the go

and remember Coca-Cola

is on the go with you

everywhere.

[Calvin] His work

just overflowed

with American references

and American confidence.

[announcer] As the Yankees win

by a 10-0 margin.

[man] T-minus 15 minutes

and counting.

There will be no smoking

in the block house

until further notice.

Status Check. Pressure's a go.

Godspeed, John Glenn.

[flames roaring]

[indistinct chatter]

[flames billowing]

[Alice] It was

a very exciting time,

of course, of course.

[surf music playing]

[JFK] Let the word go forth

from this time and place,

to friend and foe alike,

that the torch has been passed

to a new generation

of Americans.

[cheering, applause]

[Alice] Here we have

this wonderful young guy

in the White House,

and, you know,

everything was very up,

and we had great hopes.

[JFK] I see

little of more importance

to the future of our country,

than full recognition

of the place of the artist.

[Louis] John F. Kennedy

had a genuine appreciation

of the role that art played

in cultural diplomacy,

partly 'cause of the influence

of his wife on his own tastes,

which I don't think were

particularly culturally

sophisticated.

We in the United States

are grateful for this loan

from the leading artistic power

in the world: France.

[interviewer] Mrs. Kennedy,

do you think that

there's a relationship

between the government

and the arts?

That's so complicated.

I don't know.

I just think that everything

in the White House

should be the best.

[sewing machine whirring]

[Michael] By the early 1960s,

the United States

is in the midst

of a tremendous boom.

[Louis] There was

all this opportunity

and money available

to invent things in a new way.

It's very rare

in cultural history

that there are moments

like that when people think,

"Oh, we could do it this way,

let's try it."

[protester] We are seeking

recognition, equality.

We are seeking

our human dignity.

[Betty Friedan] There is

a terrible contempt for women.

Women have minds

as well as breasts!

[indistinct chanting]

[applause]

[Louis] And these

social changes are paralleled

by all kinds

of creative innovations.

[lively music playing]

[announcer] What's new?

Everything.

[Achim] For Rauschenberg's

generation,

there was a real sense

that you could remake the world

and you could make

a much better world.

This was really, in a way,

the Promised Land.

[woman 6] We danced.

We danced all the time.

In the early days,

there wasn't a week

where we didn't dance.

Somebody had an old jukebox

or records,

and it was the core

of New York City art life.

[man 9] We're very interested

in existing in our own time,

which is now.

To take advantage

of whatever is happening

at this particular moment.

[Achim] It was a period,

really, of great optimism.

But very soon,

it all comes apart.

[somber music playing]

[hooves clopping]

[Calvin] Alan Solomon

was on his way to Europe

to meet with

the Biennale officials

when he learned

of Kennedy's assassination.

He was stunned.

He didn't know

whether to turn around

and go back home.

[as Alan] To Mr. Leo Castelli

et al.,

Sunday, November 24th, 1963.

[soft, tense music playing]

What will happen

to all our schemes now?

I'll get some inkling

in Rome on Tuesday.

He thought, "Well,

that's the end of Venice."

You know,

we thought the whole thing

would just collapse.

But the USIA was so determined

to have this happen.

I certainly wanted it

to continue,

and I know if Jack Kennedy

had been alive,

he would have loved the idea.

It was our moment.

And the government

was behind the show.

[Philip] 1964 was the first time

that the American government got

behind

the American presence

in the Venice Biennale.

It was standard with

all the other pavilions.

[Michael] All of

the other pavilions

had been built

by their governments:

The British, the French,

even the Soviets.

[mellow music playing]

We didn't have that.

What we had was a pavilion

that had been built

back in the 1920s or '30s

by a New York consortium

of galleries.

[Calvin] Solomon was horrified

when he first laid his eyes

on the U.S. Pavilion

in the Biennale grounds

because it was so small

and so pitifully inadequate

as a place to show art.

So, Solomon asked

the Biennale officials

if it would be possible

for him to show

some of the works

in a different location.

And the head

of the Biennale Commission

said that would be all right.

[as Alan] They accepted,

in principle,

the idea

of a precedent-setting annex

outside the grounds

to make a larger

American exhibition possible.

[Philip] He was a kind

of visionary.

And he understood

that the pavilion was small

and that you needed more space

for no fewer than eight artists

in order to represent them

properly.

[energetic music playing]

He imagined a very large show.

[camera clicks]

[Calvin] He began looking

for possible places.

[camera clicks]

[Philip] As it happened,

the American Consulate

in Venice had closed

under the Kennedy

administration,

and it was empty.

[camera clicks]

[Calvin] The Consulate

was a wonderful building

right on the Grand Canal

right next to

the Peggy Guggenheim Palazzo.

He said, "This'll be perfect."

[soft, tense music playing]

[as Alan] We finally

arranged to use

the empty American Consulate.

There was

a clear verbal agreement

among the Venetians

and the Americans

about eligibility for prizes.

When I left,

I asked Mr. Barjansky,

as our local representative

in Italy,

to get these arrangements

in writing,

which was not done.

[soft music playing]

We went ahead and arranged

an exhibition

based on the available space

and the agreed terms.

[Calvin] He took

the measurements of the rooms,

and went back and began

planning the exhibition.

From the very beginning,

he wanted Rauschenberg

to be the first American

to win the international prize

for painting.

[dramatic music playing]

That was his real,

decisive goal.

[energetic music playing]

There was an exhibition

in the U.S. Pavilion,

of abstract paintings.

But all of the really new

and exciting works

were in the American Consulate.

Works by four younger artists:

Claes Oldenburg, Frank Stella,

Jim Dine, and John Chamberlain.

But it was dominated

by these very large paintings

by Rauschenberg,

and smaller

but more mysterious paintings

by Jasper Johns.

[suspenseful music playing]

[music fades]

[Louis] Oh my God!

When Johns and Rauschenberg

came along,

the two of them really rocked

the art world.

[soft music playing]

[distant horn blares]

They get together in 1954.

Rauschenberg was working

as a janitor

at the Stable Gallery,

which is on Seventh Avenue,

and Johns was working

at a bookstore.

And they ran into each other

on the street.

[Jasper] He was working

on the Red Paintings.

That's what I saw first.

[bright music playing]

It was real.

It was working with materials,

and out of those materials,

ideas arose.

It wasn't about making

a successful image.

There was no preconception

of an image in the way

that I had thought of art

in the past.

[soft music playing]

[traffic humming]

[Robert] ...These were the days

when I had a budget

of 25 cents a day for food.

New York was, I thought,

so incredibly rich

in materials.

I started--instead of going

to the paint store

or anyplace else,

I would just walk around

the block,

and if I didn't have enough

to start work,

if I walked around one block,

I walked around another block.

I looked up to him

in every way.

He was an artist.

I thought of myself

as "going to be an artist."

[Robert] The thing

that made us get along

was the fact that we were

so different ourselves.

I, uh, I don't know

what ought to be done.

I guess one simply does

what one does.

[interviewer] Is it your theory

not to have a theory?

[laughs]

Yes, more or less.

I would go out on the streets

and get everything.

And he would shut the windows.

[Jasper] But we understood

one another very well

and depended on one another

because we were outside

of the art world,

as it were.

[Louis] They were very discreet

about their relationship.

Always.

It was quite clear

they were lovers.

Sodomy was not legal

in New York State.

On the other hand,

many of the figures

in the New York art world

were g*y.

And their getting together

romantically

also meant

collaborating artistically

with fantastic results

for both of them.

[energetic music playing]

[Jasper] We were familiar with

what the other was doing,

almost down to a brush stroke.

[Calvin] They were able

to encourage one another

at a time when neither

was getting any encouragement

from anybody else.

[Louis] In 1954, they both

had their breakthroughs.

That's the year

Rauschenberg started

doing the combines.

And that's the year that Johns

did the American flag painting.

[Jasper] Oh, we had great times.

Amazing things happened.

So there was room

for mischief and joy.

What could I do today?

What would be fun?

What shouldn't I do?

I think I'll do that.

[laughs]

[Robert] On some levels,

it was joyful.

On some levels, it was...

Was it frightening?

I'm not sure.

It was certainly necessary.

[Calvin] It was a very intense

friendship, incandescent.

Just--they would

set off sparks.

[Louis] They clearly inspired

each other.

They made each other

take their work

to a different level.

[music stops]

-So the little one here can

move down.

-Okay

Got it.

[man] Not that it matters.

This can can also spin

on its axis,

-but that's not something

[man] No, I didn't know that.

conservation likes us

to do anymore.

[man] Right.

[Robert] When I first started

doing the paintings

that were three-dimensional,

people would say

that they're not paintings,

They're sculpture.

[energetic choral vocalizing]

And then

if I called them sculpture,

they would say

that they weren't sculpture,

that they were more paintings.

So then I thought,

"Well, I'll just

call them combines."

And from then on,

"Oh, it's a combine."

[Calvin] All of a sudden you

have something which is not

painting,

which is not sculpture,

which cannot be explained.

It just hits you

right in the eye.

It was considered offensive.

People thought that

he was thumbing his nose

at the seriousness of painting.

[singing stops]

[man] I think scorn is really

a much too feeble word to apply.

I would say hatred

and fear are,

in varying degrees,

are really much more accurate.

[soft indistinct chatter]

Most people dislike

what they don't understand.

Or rather, what they think

they ought to understand,

and don't.

[soft music playing]

[Robert] In the 1950s,

Rauschenberg was not

a declarative,

argumentative political artist.

But merely the fact of thinking

that the present was important

was a political statement

at that time.

[soft, suspenseful music

playing]

It was an attempt

to show respect

for things as they are.

[bright music playing]

I mean, Monogram with that

goat,

what can you say?

[soft music playing]

The idea of encountering

a goat in the visual arts?

You didn't see

anything like that before,

and we were looking for stuff

that we hadn't seen before.

[soft music playing]

[Calvin] A lady was standing

in front of Monogram

and she said,

"What is the reason for this?

Is this supposed to be art?"

And he said, "Well, you know,

you're wearing a mink coat,

but I could call it

the skin of a dead animal.

And you've got feathers

on your head.

There are a lot of things

that could be described

in different ways."

And she said,

"I think I see what you mean."

He said later,

"I had the feeling

that she wasn't just

being angry or mean,

she was really

trying to find out."

And I think a lot of people

sort of got it

in a way that

they hadn't before

about Rauschenberg and

the generation of the 1960s.

[lively music playing]

[Ed] These artists,

the Rauschenbergs, the Johns,

were revolutionizing

the art world.

[soft music playing]

But I didn't know a thing

about American art

before all this happened.

I would have had

a hard time distinguishing

Grandma Moses from Picasso.

[whooshing sound]

[soft, tense music playing]

[tapping at keys, chatter]

I was a graduate student,

and I was lucky enough

to get a job as a summer intern

in the Fine Arts Division

of the USIA.

We represented,

I thought, the good guys,

and that's certainly

what motivated me.

But the budget that we had

from Congress was miniscule.

And the paintings

were so outsized,

we had to figure out how

to transport this exhibition.

We couldn't afford

a regular transport plane.

[Ed] Alice was not daunted

by what I think would have been

insurmountable challenges

to a lot of other people.

Her husband, George Denney,

was the head

of the intelligence operation

at the State Department.

[Alice] And it worked

out very well

because, you know,

George being in the government.

I knew how to maneuver

getting the work over there.

[Ed] USIA was able to persuade

the Department of Defense

to provide the plane for us.

[suspenseful music playing]

[Alice] We got the Army plane!

[Ed] It was enormous.

It's wild. I mean you could

have driven trucks

up into these planes,

and I guess they did.

[Alice] So, Ed McBride

came over with the show.

[Ed] Well, yours truly

actually got on the airplane,

and there were

no seats in it as such.

We had these

kind of basket things.

It was like riding

in a coffee grinder.

It was extremely noisy.

[roar of engine]

But it was...

it was a big adventure too.

This huge plane couldn't come

into the regular airport.

A little problem there.

[Ed] We landed at

the Air Force base in Aviano.

They opened the front

of the aircraft

and Alice and Alan Solomon

were there to meet us.

[Hiroko]

The sight itself is

kind of like a spectacle.

[Calvin] There was this feeling,

the State Department must have

something to do,

seems to be playing some role

in this nefarious plot

to make an American

the winner of the grand prize.

[plodding music playing]

[Alice] There was

no conspiracy.

We couldn't afford

a regular plane.

[auctioneer] Three of you

in the game here,

and anybody else

that would like to jump in.

The Rauschenberg,

showing here at 63--

$64 million is bid.

[suspenseful music playing]

[Irving] It's so hard today

with the market

as bizarre as it is

to understand that there

wasn't really an art market

until 1958.

[jazzy music playing]

It began when

the Metropolitan Museum of Art

bought their Jackson Pollock

painting for $30,000.

We didn't believe it!

And the market sort of opens,

but Leo was

very much part of that.

[Leo] After the opening

of my gallery in '57,

I was looking for new people

who would have

something new to say

in a new era.

[Irving] He was

an amazing dealer.

Quite amazing.

[Jasper] I heard that

Bill de Kooning had said

about Leo,

"That son of a b*tch, you could

give him two beer cans

and he could sell them."

So, uh, I made this work.

I did it,

and, uh...

Leo sold it!

[laughing]

Oh, Leo was a charmer.

[chuckling]

Most charming man I've ever met.

He was a very sweet man,

very gentle man, very polite.

Extremely polite.

So elegant and so worldly.

[Leo] But I was

at the same time

very arrogant

and very ambitious.

[Irving] And his gallery became

the gallery of

this new generation.

["Dieu Est-Il Pop?" playing]

[Alice] It was

a very wonderful time.

This young group of artists

popped up from nowhere.

It was a generation

that just popped up.

[woman singer] Suis-je pop

Es-tu pop

Pop est-il

Dieu est-il

Pop, pop, pop

[Louis] Pop artists like Warhol

were making art

out of the ordinary materials

of consumer culture,

packaging, labeling, signage.

It's very easy

for people to enjoy it.

It's not complicated.

[woman singer] Suis-je pop

Es-tu pop

Pop est-il

Dieu est-il

[Calvin] The old

art establishment

was being pushed aside

by this whole new thing.

I mean, it was so new!

[Robert] The art scene

that was going on

shocked everybody.

I mean, it shocked

the artists that were doing it.

Artists like Johns

and Rauschenberg

opened the way to Pop art

because of their incorporation

of found objects

and household objects.

So they were, pioneers,

precursors of Pop art.

In Europe it was so new,

it was so invigorating.

They really went for it.

They felt that

these were new ideas.

[Calvin] Ileana Sonnabend had

been married to Leo Castelli.

And when they got divorced,

she started her own

gallery in Paris.

[Alice] She was braver than Leo.

She was more avant-garde.

[in Italian]

[indistinct chatter]

[Irving] Ileana was Castelli's

partner in Europe,

and they were a powerful duo.

[Calvin] Leo Castelli

and Ileana Sonnabend

and the big promoters

of Rauschenberg

were sort of counting on Venice

to establish his reputation

at a much higher level

than it had been.

I'm Barbaralee Diamonstein,

and our celebrated

guests today

are artist Robert Rauschenberg

and his dealer, Leo Castelli.

"Dealer"?

-[scattered laughter]

-Friend.

-Friend and dealer.

-No. Friend!

It's doubtful

if the art of the '60s

would have looked

quite the way it did...

[Calvin] Bob made Leo

uncomfortable.

He was so untamed,

uncontrollable.

You love art, you live art,

you are art, you do art.

But you're just

doing something.

[Calvin] He made Leo nervous.

...had done anything

in art until then.

[Calvin] But once Leo

committed to him,

there was no doubt that

he was completely convinced.

I wonder if there is something

you'd both clarify for us,

and I'm thinking about

an event that took place

in 1964 at the Venice Biennale

amid a swirl of rumors,

most of them relating, Leo,

to your activities.

[jazzy music playing]

[Calvin] The center

of the gossip

and the deal-making and

the politics of the Biennale

was the Caf Florian

on the Piazza San Marco.

The two epicenters were

Leo Castelli's

regular cafe table,

where he would go at noon

and at 5:00 every day.

And the other epicenter

was presided over

by Ileana Sonnabend.

[funky music playing]

[Philip] Ileana Sonnabend

launched a kind of

Europe-wide

communications campaign

announcing Rauschenberg's

presence in Venice.

I don't think this had

ever been done before.

Now, it's standard.

Every gallery is promoting

their own artists.

But then, it was quite new,

and I think,

probably above all,

the French were shocked

by the apparent commercialism

to promote Robert Rauschenberg.

[Calvin] Old-timers

at the Biennale

thought that she was in league

with Leo to steal the Biennale.

They looked on Leo

as sort of an evil genius,

like a Svengali

manipulating things.

But it was Solomon's idea

from the very beginning

that he thought he could

win the prize for Rauschenberg.

Castelli was his counselor,

Solomon's consigliere.

["America" playing]

There was a lot

of energy building up

and excitement about

the American Pavilion.

You could feel it in the cafes

around San Marco.

Bands played songs

from West Side Story.

American art was

becoming triumphant.

[funky music playing]

[laughter, glasses clinking]

[Leo] Something that we had,

all of us there--

Ileana, myself, Alan--

was total faith, you know?

Total enthusiasm.

And that's, uh...

-In the entire scene, though.

-Yeah.

I wasn't your pet.

It's not that

we were coolly thinking,

well, "Here is a show,

maybe he can get the prize,"

and things like that.

We just took it for granted

that he had to get that prize.

We just believed in it.

[Calvin] Rauschenberg had been

working a few years before this

on color silkscreens

printed up for himself

of magazine illustrations,

diagrams, sports events,

architectural designs,

front pages of the Daily News,

all sorts of things.

He would lay these down

on large canvases

in different colors

in a way that no other artist

in my experience has ever done.

He had a sense of juxtaposition,

one thing against

another that just...

You held your breath

when you looked at it.

It was so inappropriate,

and yet completely

appropriate at the same time.

[Ed] When Alan Solomon

was commissioned by USIA,

we gave him carte blanche

to do what he thought was

the most appropriate exhibition.

We weren't in any way

controlling the shots

or calling what they could

or couldn't do.

[soft, tense music playing]

[Michael] But the paintings

were all supposed to send

a message about America,

about freedom, about freedom

of choice, freedom of speech.

[clicking, tape hissing]

[interviewer] So there

really was a concern

on the part of federal agencies

about the image abroad

that American art would create?

[woman] Absolutely.

We could not use

in our exhibitions

any artist who had not been

cleared, so to speak.

If anyone was on the House

Un-American Activities list,

uh-uh, they were out.

At that time,

if anyone found out

that we were censoring

an art exhibition...

we would have been finished.

[swing music playing]

[Michael] A lot of the

"messages," quote-unquote,

that we sent with

a lot of our cultural programs

that "We're not

a r*cist society,

civil rights isn't

a problem here,"

were really not

reflective of America.

They were reflective, perhaps,

of the America

that people wanted to exist,

that they wanted people

to believe existed

in the United States.

[pensive music playing]

[echoed machine g*nf*re]

[helicopter blades whirring]

[echoed marching music playing]

[Valerie] American agencies

sending art into Europe

had to make people wonder,

you know,

to what end could this be used?

[tense music playing]

There was a certain

level of suspicion

about what the Americans

were doing,

how the Americans

were infiltrating

world culture and politics.

[whimsical music playing]

[announcer speaking Italian]

[somber music playing]

[Christo] There was a huge

resistance to begin with

to American artists.

Now, I don't know what was true,

but probably it's true,

Leo called Sam Hunter.

You know the story?

[funky music playing]

Leo was saying

they should invite Sam Hunter

to join the jury.

There were seven judges

for the prizes,

each from a different country.

And one of Solomon's plans

was to get an American

on the board

for the first time ever.

Sam Hunter was something

of a star at that time.

He was really

on the crest of a wave.

He was American commissioner

for the Sao Paolo Biennale,

he curated the American section

of the World's Fair of Seattle.

Very nice guy,

super enthusiastic.

[Calvin] Because of the

excitement over Rauschenberg,

they managed to get

the head of the judges

to name Sam Hunter

as one of the jurors.

That was the kind

of political engineering

that people said,

"This was all Castelli."

[Leo] The prizes

at the Biennale

obey the same laws that prevail

when you have

a political election.

The great number of currents,

undercurrents,

maneuvers, and so on.

It's the same thing.

It is a very political affair.

[Christo] Sam Hunter was flown

from New York to Venice

to give the prize

to Rauschenberg.

[Calvin] There was undoubtedly

extremely high pressure

from Castelli getting

his friends and people

to try to influence the judges.

I knew the jurors.

People said, "Oh, Alice is

just seducing all the jurors."

Well, believe me,

that would have taken

a lot of seducing!

[soft, tense music playing]

[Calvin] In the midst

of all of this excitement,

Alan Solomon had been informed

that he had misunderstood

the head of

the Biennale committee,

Mr. Marcazzan.

[Alice] We had a guarantee

that if we put artists

in the consulate,

they could win the prize.

[Philip] Then comes

along a brand-new president

of the Biennale,

Mario Marcazzan.

And, oh, no, he didn't think

it was at all proper

that somebody who is not fully

exhibited in the Giardini

should win the prize.

[Christo] And the jury

was stuck,

because they would like

to give the prize

to Rauschenberg,

but according to the law

of the Venice Biennale,

they should have more work

of that artist in the Pavilion.

[Calvin] Sam Hunter was

arguing ferociously

with his colleagues

about this issue

and trying to make them promise

that they would

go to the exhibition

that Alan Solomon

had hung them in

outside of

the Biennale grounds.

[Philip] He had to convince

the other jury members

to get out of the Giardini

and take the vaporetto

all the way up the Grand Canal

to visit the US Consulate.

Well, they were reluctant.

They weren't sure that

they had the authorization.

This went on

for two or three days.

I remember, there was

the waiting for the decision.

There was the postponing

of the decision.

It was very funny.

[as Alan] The first ballot gave

Rauschenberg a majority,

but the jury hesitated

at establishing a precedent

by giving the prize

to an artist whose work,

except for one picture,

was outside the Giardini.

This issue was particularly

important to us,

because I felt for some time

that our chances

of winning a prize were high.

[Calvin] Alan Solomon

was a remarkable guy.

He looked and he behaved

like an Italian.

I don't know

how he managed this.

[lilting music playing]

He spoke a bit of Italian,

and it'd gotten much better

every day that he was there.

I thought his manner

was sort of silky, almost.

He seemed to be like what

the Italians called a manofino.

He had a fine hand

in his aggression.

[Alice] He wanted to win!

In general, he was a little

aggressive over there,

but people were pushing him too.

He thought if

we did this right,

this would go around the world

as a great thing.

[as Alan] The fact that

the world art center

has shifted from Paris

to New York

is acknowledged on every hand.

[dramatic music playing]

[Philip] He stated it

as something obvious.

And this enraged above all

the French.

They felt despoiled

of their primacy,

which had really prevailed

all through the Biennales

from 1948 onwards.

[Calvin] The French

had dominated

contemporary art in Europe,

and there were

a lot of French artists

who stood to lose a great deal

if it was perceived that

the center of the art world

was no longer Paris.

[Hiroko]

[Philip] These newcomers,

these vulgar characters

from across the pond,

had really affronted

European sensibilities.

They objected furiously

to the huge, swarming party

at the US Consulate...

[funky music playing]

...which is really the first

of those Biennale parties

when everybody

thinks they're invited,

and they all crush into the

door,

and everyone inside

wants to get out

and everyone who's outside

wants to get in.

[chatter, glasses clinking]

[Alice] Bronfman, who was

the big bourbon king,

wanted to come

to the Vernissage,

and I said, "Well,

there aren't any more tickets."

He said, "I've got

to come to the Vernissage."

I said, "Well, send us

cartons of bourbon,"

which he did,

and Alan said, "Bourbon?

The Italians

don't like bourbon!"

And they drank it like water!

It was a party 'round the clock

at the Consulate.

[Hiroko]

[Kenneth] It begins

to get more difficult

because I don't start

from any specific place,

like, say, the center.

[dramatic music playing]

[Calvin] It wasn't that

he was against Noland,

but he didn't want to give in

to some more

conservative factions

that wanted something

more easily palatable

than Rauschenberg's unmade beds

and animals

and eagles.

Alan had this

absolute certainty

that Rauschenberg was

a far more important artist

and that it was

his work that was really

the most representative

of the new in art.

[Hiroko]

[spare percussive music playing]

[Robert] My early

admirers in painting

were dancers and musicians,

and I think they may still be

my best admirers.

[ethereal music playing]

I found a lot more rapport

with their ideas

about what art was

than I did

with a lot of painters.

[Calvin] Bob grew up in

a strictly evangelical family.

Dance was against God's wishes.

But dancing was one

of the things he loved to do.

[spare music playing]

At Black Mountain,

he met John Cage

and Merce Cunningham.

It was a very unusual place,

which was way ahead of its time

in the sense

of avant-garde art.

[Merce] Black Mountain was such

a different kind of place

that it's not that one would

always expect something odd,

but if something odd came along,

that was perfectly all right.

It's the place

where Rauschenberg did

his first all-white paintings.

[Robert] I wanted

to see how far

one can push

a truth like that.

I came into the art world

absolutely nude with those.

[Irving] Everyone said,

"Look, they're just all white,

it's just white canvas,"

and he said, "No, you know,

shadows will fall."

And it was what was out there

that was actually creating

the image in the work.

[Calvin] Cage did a piece

soon afterwards,

a silent piece of music,

in which a pianist

sat down at a piano,

raised the lid over the keys,

and sat for

4 minutes, 33 seconds.

[no audio]

[Irving] It was silence,

but of course,

there was no silence.

There were airplane noises,

insects buzzing,

people shuffling

in their places,

sometimes rioting.

John's idea was

really very simple.

It was life out there that was

creating the music.

[Robert] John Cage

said that he never

would have had to have known me

because I was so much like him.

[Calvin] They were

all unknowingly

on the same wavelength.

[Achim] And Rauschenberg

became the set designer

and the costume designer

for the Merce Cunningham

Dance Company.

[spare music playing]

[Robert] Merce never knew

what he was going

to see that night

or when it was going to happen,

which interested me.

[Merce] I said, "Bob, I want

to wear a chair on my back

in one of the dances."

He said, "If you have a chair,

can I have a door?"

And I said,

"Certainly, why not?"

[laughing]

Bob has managed to take

some really

quite common object,

and in some way,

by the way he places it

or what he does with it,

he dramatizes it.

[Robert] It was the most

exciting collaboration

and most real,

because nobody knew

what anybody else was doing

until it was too late.

[rapid drum music playing]

I can't work in a collaboration

without an unduly

amount of respect.

[tense music playing]

And out of that respect,

I think that you do enter

into the person's psyche.

I have to sort of love

somebody to work with them.

And that immediately...

is a tie.

[woman] That's a wrap, guys.

[Robert] That's a wrap,

if I ever saw one!

Isn't it?

[laughing]

[soft, tense music playing]

[Hiroko]

[Alice] Bob was traveling

with the company.

And we knew that he was

on his way to Japan.

[paper softly ripping]

And so we brought

Merce Cunningham to Venice.

[birds squawking]

[water lapping]

[Calvin] It was considered

a diabolical trick.

People were saying that

this was a United States plot

to try to gain attention

for Rauschenberg.

[Robert] I was over there

working for Merce Cunningham.

He had a performance--

And you knew

both Cunningham and Cage

-from your Black Mountain days.

-I was working for 'em.

Yeah, and, you know,

like I just happened

to be on the scene...

and wandering around there.

[Calvin] It was the kind

of thing that got politicized

in Venice, and it heightened

the passions on both sides.

There were people

who thought that Rauschenberg

was the end of civilization

as we know it.

And people, particularly

young Italian artists

who felt that he was

their salvation, in a way,

from the stranglehold

that the School of Paris

had held on modern art

for a long time.

[funky music playing]

[Hiroko]

[Phillip] Rauschenberg

had something to do

while he was in Venice,

which was to help

Merce Cunningham and John Cage

do a performance.

I think he was probably hardly

aware of what was going on

all around him.

He was not a protagonist,

he was not a player.

[mellow music playing]

[Alice] I had

no money for Merce,

and the State Department

wouldn't give me any.

So we sold two seats.

People were sitting on laps

at La Fenice Theater.

[Calvin] La Fenice Theater is

one of the jewels of Europe.

Every detail is beautiful.

The opening of the Cunningham

troupe's performance

became a sort of

must-see event.

[Hiroko]

Oh, it was crazy

because we had oversold tickets.

[Calvin] There was a huge crowd

of people who tried to crash

it,

who didn't have tickets

but said

that a very important person

had promised

to get them a ticket.

They were in the way

of the people

who did have tickets.

As a result, the performance

was delayed by an hour.

[indistinct chatter]

[exclamations]

-[booing]

-[whistling]

[soft piano music playing]

Some people had come

for the purpose of booing...

[booing]

...and others had come

prepared to be at w*r

with the booers and to cheer.

[cheering]

It was enormously exciting

in this small jewel

of a theater.

-[cheering]

-[applause]

As the performance went on,

there were outbursts

of applause all through it,

and contradictory

boos and hisses.

[cheering]

And the booing, of course,

encouraged the enthusiasts

to cheer even louder.

[cheering]

The dancers were wonderful.

They were immune

to all of this.

[stomping sound]

[Hiroko]

[Alice] Bob was

having a good time.

He was rolling around

everywhere.

He really and truly had no idea

that he might win.

That night,

Alan and I found out

that it would be Bob

who would win the prize.

But he was ill*gal.

Most of Bob's work

was in the consulate,

not in the Giardini grounds.

So, at the last minute,

"No, you cannot win a prize."

This precipitated

a great crisis.

[dramatic music playing]

[Achim] More work has to be

brought in to the Giardini

for him to actually qualify

for the prize.

[Alice] So I got

the Navy launch...

[funky music playing]

...but it wasn't big enough.

And then Alan said,

"We need a big barge."

And then I said, "Okay,

somebody better go in the barge

with the work to be sure

it got up there."

And Alan said,

"You're getting in the barge.

You can swim and I can't."

[dramatic music playing]

The Venice Biennale Pavilion

is U-shaped,

so there is a part

which is sort of an open space

between the two branches

of the U.

[Alice] I had a little

architect building

a little corrugated roof.

[Leo] He quickly built

a plastic roof over that.

[Calvin] At the last

possible minute,

a number of Rauschenberg

paintings were moved

from the former

American Embassy

to the US Pavilion

on the Biennale grounds.

This was astute,

it was clever, it was nimble,

but it was also viewed

as skullduggery.

[Calvin] There was a photograph

of this happening the next day

that went viral, as we say now.

And the caption

was something like:

"Stealth move on the part

of the Americans.

They're sneaking paintings."

[Hiroko]

[intense music playing]

[Alice] We didn't cheat.

We had a goal,

as all countries did.

[uplifting music playing]

It all worked.

[indistinct chatter]

[applause]

[camera shutter clicking]

[Calvin] There was

a great impromptu celebration.

When the prizes

were decided by the jury,

I went into the piazza

with Rauschenberg.

And Italian artists came up

to him and threw

their arms around him.

[cheering]

[Calvin] They picked him up

and paraded him

around San Marco

on their shoulders...

and it was a real circus.

[Alan] Rauschenberg

wants to shock us

out of our blindness.

This is the important thing

about his work,

and I think it is why

it has been understood

beyond our wildest imagination.

[Leo] Of course,

I did feel very triumphant

about the crowning

of all my efforts.

[majestic music playing]

[Hiroko]

[soft music playing]

[woman] Bob was like mother;

she used to say this

all the time, that,

"If you don't like

what's going on,

you work like the dickens

to fix it.

And if you can't fix it,

you just play like you like it."

You just play like you like it.

The Biennale thing was...

I don't know, it was

much too sort of grotesque

and marvelous to be a fantasy.

But it all seemed quite unreal.

It's easier to remember

what my reaction was afterwards,

like months and months

afterwards

than what those few days

were like.

[bell chiming]

[pensive music playing]

[Calvin] The next day,

Leo Castelli invited

a lot of people for lunch

at a restaurant

on the island of Burano.

And we all went over in boats.

[indistinct chatter]

It was a very festive affair.

It lasted for three hours.

A lot of the Italian artists

were invited.

Michelangelo Pistoletto

was there.

-[indistinct chatter]

-[camera clicking]

[Alice] And Alan came and said

to Rauschenberg and myself,

"You two behave yourselves."

The ambassador is there.

And, you know,

Bob didn't care.

[soft music playing]

[bell pealing]

Afterwards,

walking back to the boat

I happened to be walking

alongside Bob,

and I asked him how it felt

to get this thing.

And Bob said, "You know what?

Until that thing in San Marco,

I didn't realize

that this really was something

and that it meant something.

He said, "It kind of scared me."

While he was still in Venice,

he cabled an assistant

in New York

and told him to collect

all of the old silkscreens

in the studio

and burn them.

I got rid of

all my silkscreens.

The temptation to just use

the screens I already had

would have been...

it would have been too great.

[Calvin] He didn't want

to repeat himself.

He knew that would be

the death of him.

He told me,

"I'm a little afraid

of losing touch with myself.

And I can't afford to do that

because I'm

the only thing I have."

There was a humbleness to it,

and a genuine uncertainty

about what was next.

I was very moved.

I still am.

This Biennale changed the way

American art was perceived.

It also changed Rauschenberg.

He was now

an international figure.

Things weren't

going to be the same.

[dramatic music playing]

[Lyndon B. Johnson]

My fellow Americans,

I am about to sign into law

the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

[man] The FBI announced

the finding of three bodies

near Philadelphia, Mississippi,

where three

civil rights workers

disappeared a month ago.

[thrum of helicopter blades]

[LBJ] The determination

of all Americans

to carry out

our full commitment

to the people of South Vietnam

will be redoubled

by this outrage.

[shouting]

[man 2] With a cloud

of tear gas,

Selma ceased to be

an obscure Southern city

and became a symbol.

[Sarah] Shortly after

coming back from winning

the grand prize

and his world tour

with Merce Cunningham,

Life magazine

commissioned Rauschenberg

for a special issue

to commemorate

the 700th birthday of Dante.

And Rauschenberg dove

into charged,

very obviously

political imagery:

corpses stacked in a mass grave,

race riots, the atom b*mb...

[expl*si*n]

...police dogs barking fiercely

at protesters.

[barking]

Very politically charged.

A real turn.

[shouting]

[Louis] Before 1965,

the United States

was thought of as a relatively

benevolent superpower,

because we spread our wealth

all over the world.

-[b*mb whizzing]

-[explosions]

Almost on a dime,

the whole scene is

completely changed.

["The Star-Spangled Banner"

on electric guitar playing]

[man] Beatnik hippies!

Communist agitators!

handful of dissident,

radical, rebel,

f*cked-up students everywhere!

[Louis] Consciousness is raised

about political questions

that really hadn't been

on the front burner

before that.

[g*nsh*t]

[Achim] At the end

of the decade,

Rauschenberg made Signs

and summarized

Kennedy's assassination,

the race riots,

the Vietnam w*r,

the assassination

of Martin Luther King,

this truly dystopian moment,

there is such a strong sense

that this undiluted,

positive belief

of a generation

into a new future

is over for good.

[somber music playing]

[JFK] If sometimes

our great artists

have been most critical

of our society,

it is because

their concern for justice,

makes him aware

that our nation

falls short

of its highest potential.

Some of us take pride

in the fact that we can be

both an aesthetic artist

but also be

very socially conscious.

And to me, Rauschenberg

is the epitome of that.

I think of him as

a very profound American artist,

the way he engaged

with the society.

[Mark] What influenced me

the most were the combines.

He was trying to combine

more than materials.

He's trying to connect

art history

and kind of a social history.

And Rauschenberg worked

his whole life.

Sometimes the works were great,

sometimes they were in between,

but the thing about Rauschenberg

was he continued

to experiment,

to continue to push forward.

Rauschenberg was a man

that kept moving.

[engine roaring]

[Sarah] In the 1980s,

Rauschenberg undertook

a hugely ambitious project

that took him

all over the world.

[Achim] He was

going into countries

like China, Tibet, Russia,

that had no cultural exchange

with the United States.

[soft piano music playing]

[Robert] It's called ROCI.

Named after my turtle.

[clicking]

[Calvin] He had

a naive idealism.

He felt that if he could

connect with local artists

and produce art

using local materials

and have it show

in all these countries,

it could change

the way people thought,

and the way people lived.

[Robert] The whole idea is that

through information

about each other,

we might be able to stop

some of the stupidity

that are controlling us.

It's a peace mission.

[indistinct chatter]

[Calvin] Ileana Sonnabend

and Leo Castelli

thought he was committing

professional suicide.

Nobody was willing

to fund ROCI.

Nobody.

Absolutely nobody.

[Calvin] And so he funded it

entirely himself.

[Robert] But I kind of liked

the purity,

because if we'd had

the government doing it,

it would have been

under their control

and censorship and advice.

All five of those words

are the same thing.

[woman] They're

about to practice.

[Hiroko]

[Robert] I'm sort of

working against

most of the politicians

in the sense

that they can only control

if there's a question

of power.

And I think there would be

no need for power

if there was communication.

[pensive music playing]

[Michael] Soft power,

that use of culture

can be an extraordinarily

powerful tool

for understanding

and bringing people together,

because it is

a common language.

But back in 1964,

there was real anger

that this kind of art had won.

[dramatic music playing]

European critics criticized it

for being vulgar,

materialistic, soulless art

that represents nothing

but the consumer mentality

of the United States.

Instead of creating

a positive image

of the United States,

the show was whipping up

anti-American sentiment.

[Ed] In the end,

it was a Pyrrhic victory.

The price of doing all of this

was the demise

of the fine art section

from USIA,

because USIA felt

it was too controversial.

The next year,

the United States government

essentially washed its hands

of the art program.

[cameras whirring]

Uh...

[soft music playing]

An extraordinary amount

of hostility

was created by my good fortune.

I don't know, I was feeling

quite patriotic about it.

[Alice] You know,

it's so funny, since I knew

really what the truth was,

I didn't pay

any attention to it.

We were popular.

No matter what anybody says,

we were popular.

[Philip] They backed a winner.

They backed one of the major

artists

of the second half

of the 20th century

who still today is considered

a groundbreaker, a pioneer.

So they got it right.

How they did it

is another matter.

[as Alan] I can't tell you

what hell I went through

with the artists,

and one thing and another.

It's a fantastic story,

and the way

it was told in the press,

is, of course,

absolutely untrue.

We might have won it anyway,

but we really engineered it.

[uplifting music playing]

[Robert] Twenty-six years ago,

when I was here

and got the grand prize

and all that,

the Biennale was described

as the Olympics.

And so that everyone,

all the nations,

you know, would be separated

and compete against each other.

Now I think

that you can't have

all the blue-eyed people

in one pavilion

and all the brown-eyed people

in another pavilion

and have anything

that makes

any international sense.

That idea of nationalism

has to be dissolved.

[Simone] Thanks

so much for coming.

[woman] To represent

one's country

is a heavy mantle to take on.

And I wanted to ask you:

"What does it mean to you

to represent

the United States in 2022?"

We need to get rid of

the idea of nationalism

if we're gonna go forward.

However, I do think,

as a woman who was

the child of immigrants,

I do have

an American experience,

and I'm very happy to be able

to share my ideas globally.

[applause]

[man] You really believe

art can change society?

Of course, I know it can.

It has for thousands of years.

I can't think that one more day

is too much.

["Cultural Exchange" playing]

[Louis Armstrong]

Yeah, I remember

When Diz was in Greece

Back in '57

He did such a good job

We started sending jazz

All over the world

The State Department

Has discovered jazz

It reaches folks

Like nothin' ever has

Like when they feel

That jazzy rhythm

They know

We're really with 'em

That's what we call

Cultural exchange

No commodity

Is quite so strange

As this thing

Called cultural exchange

Say that our prestige

Needs a tonic

Export the Philharmonic

That's what we call

Cultural exchange

That's what we call

Cultural exchange

We put Oklahoma in Japan

South Pacific

We gave to Iran

And when our neighbors

Call us vermin

We sent out Woody Herman

That's what we call

Cultural exchange

Gershwin gave

The Muscovites a thrill

[man] With Porgy and Bess

[Louis Armstrong] Bernstein

Was the darlin' of Brazil

[man] And isn't he here?

[Louis Armstrong] And just

To stop internal mayhem

We dispatch Martha Graham

That's what we call

Cultural exchange

That's what we call

Cultural exchange

Yes, and if the world

Goes wacky

We'll get John

To send out Jackie

[man] You mean

Jackie Robinson?

[Louis Armstrong] No, man,

I mean the First Lady!

That's what we call

Cultural exchange

Oh, that's what we call

Cultural exchange

Whoa, yes!