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05x02 - The Book of Dead Roses

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives". Aired: September 6, 2024 – present.*
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In 2022, Utah influencer Taylor Frankie Paul went viral for revealing that she and her husband had been "soft-swinging" with other Mormon couples.

05x02 - The Book of Dead Roses

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[♪ upbeat music playing]

♪ Country step on a country beat ♪

♪ Ain't nobody can do it like me... ♪

[guests cheering]

[♪ upbeat music continues]

I turned 50, all you Gen Xers. Whoo!

Tonight is Liann's 50th birthday.

It's a hoedown.
It's a little Western theme.

They have a custom hat bar,
they have a mechanical bull.

There's line dancing.

I'm not very good at any sort
of dancing, besides twerking.

[Mayci] Whoa!

[Mayci] Jacob, let's try that later!

But I could ride a good bull.

♪ She just wanna ride... ♪

-Hey, Laylay, how are you?
-Hi!

-So...
-Hi, Aspen.

-Sorry, but...
-Give me a hug.

♪ She just wanna ride ♪

Because I've been in LA,
I haven't spoken to Taylor

in a hot minute.

I don't even know if she's engaged.

Clearly, I don't even know anything.

[Taylor] Yeah, hi.

But as long as Dakota's
not in the picture,

I think we'll be great.

-[Taylor] Thank you guys for coming.
-[Jessi] Oh, of course.

It's so nice of you.

-[Jessi] It's her 50th, right?
-Yeah.

-It's a big deal.
-I love this.

What are you guys
doing tonight after this?

-Anything or no?
-Nothing.

-Resting, sleeping.
-[Taylor] That's nice.

Yeah, I mean, Jordan's gone,
so I'm like a single mom right now.

Where's he?

He's doing a cooking show in California.

-What?
-Yeah,

like a competition chef thing.

-So, yeah. So...
-Oh, wow, well, congrats to him.

Okay, wait, how was your experience?

-With what?
-You don't have to give me details

'cause I'm sure you've told the same story

over and over again.

Just everything that's happened.

I got engaged.

-You got engaged?
-Yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

Um, okay, wait, but I wanted to ask
how the "Happy Couple" went.

[♪ intense music playing]

[Taylor]
After filming on The Bachelorette,

"Happy Couples" are where we have,
like, an Airbnb to ourselves

for a weekend, and we get
to enjoy each other

in secrecy, so no one knows.

That's what a "Happy Couple" is.

'Cause last time I saw you,
you were going to do that.

Oh. Um...

[Jessi] What did you do?

I called it off.

[Jessi] What?

[♪ intense upbeat music playing]

[Jessi] She's in a doozy.

[Taylor] Going into the first
"Happy Couple" visit with Doug,

there was a point
that clicked that I was like,

this isn't gonna work,
and I'm gonna break it off.

And not, like, break off like
I never want to talk to you again

but, like, break off this, like,
heaviness that I'm feeling.

And maybe there's a part
of me that maybe felt

that Doug didn't even really,
really, like, love me per se

and has a motive here.

I didn't know he was trying
to be an upcoming artist

until, like, to the very end.

In his mind, I think
he probably convinced himself,

we can get engaged,
give everyone a happy ending here,

and we'll figure it out after the fact.

So, I broke it off, I was like,

"I think it's just what's best
moving forward."

And that was so relieving.

I went home and was like,
okay, I can breathe.

[Jessi] Your family doesn't know.

No, they don't know anything,
but I also like Ben, still.

[Jessi laughing]

-Do you know who Ben is?
-Yes.

-[Taylor] That's who I really like.
-I forgot about Ben.

That's who I really like.

Oh, so you're talking to Ben.

[chuckling] Yeah.

Taylor, girl. Baby girl.

I just can't keep up.
I just can't keep up.

I'm guessing Taylor's head space
is... not here.

She's gone.

-As long as it's not Dakota.
-Honestly, I think

he's your soulmate, I'm not gonna lie.

-Maybe.
-[Jen] No, like, he is like--

He always says, he's like,
"I feel like we have a soul tie."

And the fact that he didn't overreact

with you going on The Bachelorette

-is, like, huge.
-He like waited for her

and wrote her a song, like...

He wrote you a s--

I'm sorry, put a ring on it.

[Jessi] Put a ring on it?

I'll be honest, I came home,
and I was thinking of Ben

since I was home.

I leave there feeling, okay,
I'm not engaged anymore,

but my heart is kind of leaning
towards more of Ben

so, like, just follow it

even though it could create a lot
of turmoil and chaos around me.

Just, like, I'm excited
to finally tell him this,

and so that's the goal is to see him.

Okay, so then how does
this other guy feel?

-Does he know you're talking to Ben?
-[Taylor] No.

-[Taylor] Can you see the issue here?
-It's a lot.

[Taylor] Don't repeat it, please.

[♪ tense music playing]

♪ Come ye saints and come ye sinners ♪

♪ Hallelujah ♪

♪ Listen up ♪

♪ I'm the one you've been dreaming of ♪

♪ I've got everything
you could ever want ♪

♪ Try me and you'll see
I'll bring you to your knees ♪

♪ Baby, you're gonna believe ♪

Shh.

Shh.

Shh.

♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪

♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪

-♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪
-Shh.

♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪

-Shh.
-♪ Temptation ♪

[♪ intense upbeat music playing]

-[commentator 1] Everything's on pause.
-Where there's smoke,

there's fire and there's something off.

[commentator 2] Taylor's season
of The Bachelorette was pulled.

[commentator 3] Eek, Taylor,
it's not looking good, girl.

[♪ upbeat music playing]

♪ I've got secrets, you've got secrets
you don't need to know... ♪

Yeah, no, I'll just sit
next to Layla, that's fine.

Oh. Do you-- [laughing]

[Mikayla] No, it's okay.

I forgot you have a husband.

I guess I'm the only one
that has a husband these days.

I'm like, I'm actually wondering
where my husband is.

Like, I've been on the hunt
for a while now.

[Layla] Uh, that's so funny.

-[thuds]
-Your mom has so many friends.

When she sent the list, I was like, what?

I wouldn't be able
to fill up this whole venue.

-It would just be you guys.
-No, literally.

I know, I'm like, I have no other friends.

-MomTok is all we have.
-[Layla] I know, literally.

MomTok's all we need.

-[Layla] Yeah.
-True. True, true, true.

[Layla] When am I gonna get the update?

What happened, Bachelorette?

Oh, my gosh.

-No one's been telling me anything.
-Have I not seen you?

No, you have a fiancé?

[Taylor] I did, I did. Mm-hmm.

[Layla] You got engaged?

[Layla] Shut up!

[Layla] Wait, what? 'Did'? Why?

Is it "Did"?

[Taylor] Like why didn't I? Or,
like, why did it end... like what?

[Layla] Why are you not together anymore?

[Taylor] Oh, because I broke it off.

[Layla] Why?

Because...

[Taylor] I mean,
it's a long story short...

-But...
-[Layla] You didn't know?

[Mikayla] Well, I didn't know
you officially broke it off.

I'm gonna be honest,
I'm not shocked, unfortunately,

that this is how
the experience went for Taylor.

I think she set herself up for, you know,

not success sleeping with Dakota
the day that she left.

Where is she?
Was she with Dakota last night again?

Yes, 100%.

No, sir, for real?

Yes. Go, self-sabotage!

But I'm shocked I didn't find out
about it sooner.

Normally, this group cannot keep secrets.

I feel like Dakota's involved
in some way in this.

Well, he was.

No! While you're still engaged?

[Taylor] Yeah, what about it?

[Mikayla] It's a lot to keep up with.

Taylor goes on The Bachelorette,

Taylor gets engaged on The Bachelorette,

Taylor comes back and sleeps with Dakota,

and then she's actually
in love with Ben now.

Taylor, it's like, you know
that you're making

these poor decisions.

You're shocked at the outcome.

Then you continue to make poor decisions,

and that's what makes it so frustrating.

[chuckles]

I don't like this.

It's definitely interesting
to hear Taylor talk

about the whole Dakota, Doug,
in her situations

'cause I think she's downplaying,
to be honest.

She did cheat on her fiancé

with her baby daddy.

I absolutely think that Taylor and Dakota
are addicted to each other.

You do get a dopamine rush

when you are in a toxic relationship.

It's just a bummer.

I feel like I'm in a doozy.
It's, like, a bad one.

-Well, I don't know, like--
-[Taylor] What's your opinion?

[Jace] So, it's almost like
The Bachelorette

didn't happen kind of,
as far as your love life goes.

Well... [sighs]

Gave it a chance, I don't know.

Is that horrible?

Mm.

If it doesn't work out,
it doesn't work out.

Yeah, I think where
I went wrong is just like...

I could have said no, you know?

Are you worried that people are gonna
get invested into your relationship

-and then be upset?
-Oh, yeah.

Oh, I think I'm gonna be hated
by Bachelor Nation for sure.

[Jace] Uh, yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

I understand how it looks
from the outside.

There is a lot of, like, anxiousness
what the public's gonna think.

I obviously know that they have
such a devoted audience.

I just feel like I was given
something so great,

and I just, like... f*cked it all up.

But it also is my mess, so I'm like,

there's no getting out of this, right?

-Yeah.
-Yeah, I'm like...

So, how are you and Chase doing
after that convo?

Um... I mean, fine.

I'm just like, just show up for the kids
and, like, beyond that, whatever.

[Jessi] So, me and him had
a conversation at the carnival.

I found out that he was going up
to Sundance this weekend

and getting an Airbnb with Marciano.

[♪ dramatic music playing]

Sundance Film Festival comes
to Utah every year.

This is the last year
it's actually gonna be in Park City.

And I find out at the carnival

that Chase is planning
to go with Marciano.

So, I'm like, are you trying
to piss Jordan off?

Are you trying to piss me off
when I'm trying to work on my marriage?

I wouldn't want to f*cking, like,
hurt you guys' feelings

or make it look bad.

Why do you need to hang out with him?
He just wants to be on our show.

That's all he wants,
and you're giving him an opportunity.

-I didn't know that.
-Yeah, he's gross.

I'll take that into account.

Chase does know that Jordan and I

are trying to work through
the Marciano stuff still.

We're working on our marriage,
so him going to Sundance with Marciano

feels like a personal attack.

I know that we're not all best friends,

but we're friendly enough
to, like, respect that boundary.

It feels like Chase is kind of using
my pain, my situation,

my past to get on the show

because he just wants
to be a part of, like, the clout

and I think it's pretty obvious.

But the only reason it bugged me
is 'cause, like, a month and a half ago,

I had heard that Marciano had plans
to come do content with Chase.

So, Chase voice-memoed me and he's like,
"I wanted to get your opinion on this.

Like, is it a good idea?"

And then I told him my opinion.
He was like, "You're right.

"Like, your and Jordan's friendship
means so much more to me.

Like, it means nothing."

[Chase] I won't do any videos with him.

He's obviously kind of
a little bit of a sleaze.

I mean, I wouldn't want
to make Jordan be triggered.

Yeah, I'll just let him know.
Like, dude, probably not a great look.

So, the only reason I was upset
is 'cause he said that.

So I brought it up to him, and he's like,
"Well, that was two months ago."

And I'm like, "Oh,
so your loyalty expires. Cool."

-Like... what?
-He's like I need attention now.

I was getting enough attention back then.

-Oh, for sure.
-Yeah.

Did you guys see
Whitney's invite that she sent us

-for the Chicago afterparty?
-[Miranda] She looks hot.

[Jessi] She looks really good.

-Oh, this is an after-party.
-[Mikayla] You guys...

Are you excited, Jen?

[Jen] Whoo! [chuckles]

I'm actually really excited to see it.

Are you going?

-Yeah.
-Ooh.

When everyone in MomTok mentioned
that they would be going

to New York for Whitney's Broadway show,

every part of me didn't want to go

just because of how things were left off.

[Whitney] ...that you don't feel
like we're friends.

Okay then, f*ck you.

Holy sh*t!

But as a group, no matter
what our differences are,

I think it's always important
to still show up.

And my intention in going

is truly wanting
to mend things with Whitney.

And I think everyone just wants
to move past this.

I think the petty thing for me to do
would be to not show up

and just-- instead of just, like,
moving past everything,

showing up and supporting,
and that's what MomTok is all about.

I'm definitely shocked to hear
that Jen is going

to be coming to Whitney's
opening night of Chicago,

but based off of where they left
their relationship,

I don't think Whitney's gonna
want anything to do with it.

♪ Yeah, I'm getting to the paper ♪

♪ I'm a paper chaser ♪

♪ You don't mind, you a hater ♪

♪ I don't owe you no favors ♪

♪ And I'm like Speed Racer ♪

♪ Yeah, I'm a straight champion ♪

♪ Oh, this is my anthem ♪

♪ I'm a winner, winner, winner... ♪

Thank you for coming.

I know, I love hanging out with you.

They didn't even show anything.

[♪ intense music playing]

[Dakota] How are you? Are you good?

-[Chase] We're chilling.
-[Marciano] How are you feeling

about me being here right now?

[Chase] 'Cause, you are
kind of friends with Jordan.

A hundred percent. A hundred percent.

I don't have a problem with you at all.

-Yeah.
-It's-It's everything else with it though.

It's like, oh, if I get
f*cking seen with Marciano,

f*cking I'm the-- the f*cking
biggest dickhead

-in America.
-But you're a grown a*s man, bro.

-You're a grown a*s man.
-I get that. I get that,

but that's where I'm saying,
it's still a loyalty

-I owe to Jessi.
-You can make your own f*cking decisions.

Look, I think you're doing
the right thing,

what I think-- the only thing
I have a problem with

is after thinking about it, I'm like,

"Guess who f*cking brought you into this?"

-Jessi.
-You introduced me.

-[Marciano] Yeah.
-I would've never met your a*s, ever.

-No, no.
-Had I-- Had that not happen.

Had that not happen.

-[Marciano] No, that's what I'm saying.
-You were brought into this.

-Yeah. I'm not going anywhere, bro.
-[overlapping chatter]

I am not going anywhere.

If you're around, like,

-it's kind of a weird-- now for me too.
-Yeah.

I'm like, I don't know
what you want me to do.

My thing is like when I go out,
I will hang out with whoever I run into.

-And you should be able to do the same.
-That's-- Same.

Idiot guys have to stick together.

-We do.
-I'm kind of a bad guy, too.

-So, like...
-I'm a dumbass.

...sometimes I have a little soft spot

-for people who f*ck up. Like, I'm like...
-I will do some dumb sh*t.

[laughter]

♪ I'm feeling fantastic
head up in the clouds ♪

♪ So enthusiastic, jumping up and down ♪

♪ Quit being dramatic... ♪

Taylor Frankie Paul,
she's going to be on The Bachelorette.

I know so many people are
so excited about this.

What a good crossover.
It is genius, genius, genius.

♪ I'm only around the ones
that want the best for me... ♪

[FaceTime ringing]

Hi. [giggles]

Well, well, well.

[Taylor] Hi.

[Taylor] I met Ben off TikTok Live.

He came out and visited me,

and we actually ended up hitting it off
really well before I left.

The conversation ended in, "You know what?

"I'm here for however you need me.

"If you wanna be here just as a friend,

just to listen to, like, I'm here."

So, I come home, and then
he texts me and was like,

"Did you get married?"

And then I got butterflies
when he texted me,

was the feeling I got.

So I'm like, that's the one
that I actually like,

was looking for to reach out to me.

You look good.

Damn. How are you?

[Ben] Good. Feel good.
How are you doing?

Good, I'm stressed per usual, but...

[Ben] You look pretty.

You look so handsome.

[giggles]

So, I just wanted to let you know
that I am thinking of you.

I wanted to call you.

This is supposed to be, like, top secret.
I'm not allowed to tell anybody.

And then, obviously me talking to Ben,

it could create a lot of turmoil
and chaos around me.

[Ben] Uh...

[Ben] It depends on, you know, if you're
engaged or married or something.

or married or something.

[Ben] I think that's pretty important,
don't you think?

[Taylor] Yeah, true, valid, valid.

I'm not married.
I'm not engaged anymore. Yeah.

[Ben] It's good to hear, like,
how you feel and, you know...

[Ben] And I've still thought about you.

[Ben] I appreciate hearing that,
like, you still care about me.

[Ben] So, I mean,
you feel like you know...

[Ben] you don't want to continue
forward with this other person?

[Taylor] Yeah,
'cause I feel like if anything,

going out there showed me
how much I liked you--

Like, how much I like you.

Because I think when I left,
I didn't maybe even know

the extent, you know?

And I had these feelings
and how I felt about you

and no one, like, passed you up.

[Ben] I mean, you know how
I feel about you.

[Ben] For some reason,
it feels like we keep...

[Ben] coming back to each other.

Mm. I want to figure this out for sure.

-But I'll call you when I can.
-[Ben] Okay.

[Ben] Okay.

[Ben] Sounds good.

Okay, bye.

♪ Will we make it out alive... ♪

[Taylor] I'm not questioning
if Ben likes me.

He is so genuine,
he's sincere, I can feel it.

With Doug, I don't know.
There was still a question with Doug.

I think he created a crush for me.

I think he had an agenda.

And I know that this is
being broadcasted to everyone.

So I'm like, I know what this comes with,
I know what it looks like,

I know it may not make sense, I get that.

That's what my heart is saying,
so just follow that.

♪ But will we make it... ♪

[exhales forcefully]

♪ Something in the air tonight ♪

[♪ lively upbeat music playing]

-Thank you.
-Thank you, thank you.

What are we gonna order?

Should we get another one?

Another what?

Another one?

I'm not gonna lie,
our babies are pretty easy.

-Fourth one would be very easy.
-Okay, they are,

but also coming from the person
who didn't wake up with her every night,

that's easy for you to say.

The thought of getting
pregnant again is a no for me,

especially because we do IVF.

And so, like, for me to get pregnant,

that's a two-month prep process
of hormones and shots

and all that and I'm like,
I just did that.

Like, I do not want to do that again.

I'm good for now, thank you.

[♪ upbeat music playing]

-[Mikayla] Oh, they have Charli.
-I love you.

Why didn't you guys tell us
you had Charli? Thank you.

[Mayci] 'Cause we didn't have
a babysitter for her.

Aww.

-Oh, we got Charli.
-[Mikayla] Oh, Charli!

She's like, "Who's saying my name?"

-Like they said "Charli."
-Charli.

-Charli girl!
-[Mayci] Charli, Charli, Charli.

She has, like, the prettiest shaped eyes.

I'm like, do they look familiar?

-Well, they're slanted.
-Yeah, Jacob's.

-Just like yours.
-I'm like...

Who's that? Hello?

-[kiss smacking]
-Who is that?

-Oh, hello, what the hell?
-Surprise!

What are you doing here?

Mayci's sister, McCall, reached out to me

because her and her mom
were gonna be in town

and they wanted to surprise Mayci.

So, we set up a little dinner
to surprise her

before New York.

I was like, weird, you weren't invited.

[laughter]

-[Jace chuckles]
-So cute, oh, you're so cute.

[Jacob] Me and Mayci
have been talking about

having another baby though.

Why are you bringing this up again?

-Jacob, no.
-[McCall] I agree.

We literally-- We literally
just talked about this earlier.

No, that's not a good idea.

-Why not?
-It's just too soon.

Jacob's trying to have a baby
by the next month.

-[overlapping chatter]
-In, like, six months.

[McCall] No, but by the time you, like,
go through the process though,

I feel like it'll be perfect timing.

[overlapping chatter]

If we start now, the two under two...

You can join the four-baby club.

McCall has four kids
and lives in California.

Definitely more devout Mormon than I am.

She's definitely one who wears
her garments 24/7. Good for her.

Sometimes I wish I could be
a little more obedient,

but I have a little bit
of a defiant personality naturally.

I need a break. Like,
I just stopped breastfeeding.

McCall, Cindy, do you think
that the embryo

-that's right now in the freezer...
-Are you bringing this up again?

...do you think that
little embryo has a soul?

-Yes.
-And, like, where is that soul right now?

-In the freezer.
-Tell us.

-It's just frozen in time?
-Tell us really, society president.

I think he wants to join your family.

-It's in the heaven freezer.
-[overlapping chatter]

-Exactly.
-What?

We believe, like, spirits
are, like, in heaven.

Like, they're, like, then sent down,

but, like, okay, that was
sent down for seven days

and then, like, at conception

-and then it froze.
-Yeah.

So, is it just, like, frozen
in the clouds right now?

I've never really thought about that.

I've never-- You're going
kinda deep, Jacob.

Jacob always goes deep.

[Mikayla] When you're still
a part of the Mormon culture,

you're taught to bring it
into every aspect of your life.

But if my husband was
just asking me for a baby,

I would absolutely flip my sh*t.

I'd be like, "Absolutely not."

It is interesting to think about it

'cause, like, I'm number 12
in my family, and I'm like--

-That's so crazy.
-[Cindy] Oh, wow.

And I'm like, thank God

-my parents didn't stop.
-[Mayci] They kept going.

-It's con-- It's so confusing.
-Very complicated.

I mean, I don't know.
I probably-- I think I would still do it,

but it's just like, I don't know.

Probably wants to come down
and be in-- part of your family.

It's not time yet. [laughing]

But it's just not time yet.

Maybe another year.

Since my mom is active in the LDS church,

I do think that normally,

my mom would probably be backing McCall,

but now she's on my team, so I'll take it.

So, is it-- Is it a maybe?

Sounds like it's a hard no.

Also Mayci, remember,
like, what we're told.

What are we told?

To multiply and replenish the earth.

Oh, please.

♪ You do you, I do me too ♪

♪ It's giving déjà vu, be bad... ♪

[♪ upbeat music playing]

I just want to make it clear, like,
I did not want to look like this.

It's just part of the healing process.

I'm having to delete comments constantly

because people are really, really mean.

There is also a lot of amazing comments

and love and positivity.

So, if that was you, thank you.

-Hi!
-Hello, how are you?

-[Dr. Anderson] How are you?
-Thank you so much for getting me in.

-Oh, my gosh, yes.
-I appreciate it so much.

I'm obviously so scared to do anything

-'cause of the fat grafting.
-I know.

But I do feel like
because of the fat grafting,

they're so, like, pointy now.

I would wait on lips until you get,
like, at least past 12 weeks.

Okay, that's good to know.

-Jessi...
-[Dr. Anderson] Okay, well, let's do that,

-and then we'll...
-This is normal.

-This isn't surgery.
-You stress me out.

-I know. I stress myself out.
-And we're saying no--

We're saying no to the lips right now.

-Yes. And again...
-You know?

...I'm gonna follow what you say.

I'm not like a crazy like, "Inject me."

In Utah culture,
especially Mormonism here,

you just want to earn the highest level

of perfection in all things.

Your faith, your family, your looks.

So, I'm doing a lot right now
to try and fix

what I ruined about my face.

I've done steroid injections and massages

and lymphatic drainage,

and I feel like my appearance
is just changing day to day.

I just want to look better for New York,

and I'm just desperate
just to have my old face back.

-[Mayci] I saw you feuding online.
-Oh, you did?

I actually just saw it today,
this morning.

Remember yesterday when I told you
that it looked like

Marciano might be filming for Season Five

and he was at Sundance with Chase?

According to Chase, it seemed like
Jessi was mad about that

and blocked Chase because
he was hanging out with Marciano.

[Jessi] I find out
that Chase is hanging out

with Marciano through TikTok.

And for some reason,
Dakota was there as well.

So I commented on it
and said, "Amazing friends."

Which was petty,
but I was, like, just so mad

because it went against
what he said he was gonna do.

And then Chase starts responding,

and then I start responding.

Did you see everything
he was saying to me?

[Mayci] I didn't see everything.
I just saw, like...

-[Jessi] No, I'm not surprised.
-He's, like, so gross.

"Jessi blocked me, so please let her know

"that Jordan and I are not friends.

"He'd tell you the same thing.

"Also never woulda met Marciano

had she not had the entanglement."

The only way I've been able
to see his comments

are what the fan page is posting,
and then I respond.

-Oh, yeah. Damn.
-[Jessi] I'm so crazy.

People are like, "He's funny."

He-- He posts memes on TikTok,
and so he's funny.

He's not funny.

And he went below the belt.

Chase is like, "Well, you're the one
who brought Marciano around.

You're the reason he's even in our lives."

Fair, that is true,

but I met with Marciano
to clear the air, get closure,

but also take the lie detector

so that everyone would know
I didn't sleep with him.

-Oh, my God, you got me flowers?
-I got you some flowers.

At some point, you did lie about me,

so I want to make sure
everything you're saying now is true.

[questioner] Have you ever had
sexual intercourse with Jessi?

But after that,
Jordan did want me to cut off

all communication with Marciano
if we were staying together.

There's no reason to ever communicate
with him moving forward.

It's completely disrespectful
and f*cked up to our kids,

to me, to my family.

[sniffling]

I did honor what Jordan wanted.

I stopped following him, I blocked him,

I did not talk to him again.

So now, I don't understand
why Chase wants to bring around

the guy that almost ruined my marriage

when I'm trying to work on my marriage.

He knows what that's gonna do to Jordan.

So, I'm like, why are you doing this

if you know it's gonna cause
an issue for me?

This is what Chase does

is when he's mad at you,
like with Taylor...

He'll bring the same thing up
over and over.

-Like your only flaw.
-[Mayci] Yeah.

-And he'll like--
-[Mikayla] As if he doesn't get

a DUI every other weekend.

-[Jessi] Exactly.
-Yeah.

It's Chase, why would we be shocked?

It's like being shocked

with Dakota telling another lie.
Why would I be shocked?

If someone is showing you
who they are time and time again,

then I'm gonna believe it.

It just shows what they're
willing to do for clout.

-Yes.
-And it doesn't shock me.

No.

[♪ upbeat music playing]

[Mason] Does this help with crow's feet?

[Layla] I feel like it kind of fits
his face okay.

Look at me, Chaser.

Wow, this is, like,
actually kind of terrifying.

Litia's friends with both me and Chase,

so she invited all of us over
to have a little spa night.

It definitely is a little awkward

because of Jessi being mad
at Marciano and Chase

for hanging out together,
which I can see both sides,

but yeah, we have a lot to talk about.
[chuckles]

-[Litia] Hi, Taylor. Come on in.
-[Taylor] Hi.

[water trickles]

[Litia] What's new? Catch us up.

[Taylor] Oh.

[Layla] What's happening now
with you and Dakota?

You guys are for sure
still texting though, right?

Communicating, yes.

I don't know if you guys are aware,

like, I got home, you know,
and, like, caved.

Yeah, it was so stupid,
and I regret it, for sure.

Two, three times, like...

-It happened two, three times.
-[Mason and Chase laughing]

[Chase] I'm like, that is
actually the most relatable.

-That is-- Yeah, like...
-Yeah, it was like, three...

Honestly, respect the hell
out of the honesty.

Well, here's the thing,
is the third time I, like, mid--

I was like, I gotta go home.
Like, this is stupid.

And so, I don't count it, really.

-Like, if I'm being technical.
-Two and a half. Yeah.

-Nothing wrong with that.
-Okay, that's just you with your halves.

You're always like,
"If-- He only put it in for a second,

so it doesn't count."

It was that three times back to back,
and I haven't since.

And honestly, like, there has been times

I think there was that chance,
and I was like,

honestly... you have obligations
to your girl,

whatever she is to you,

but also, like,
I have obligations elsewhere.

Yeah, I like another guy, by the way,
so I can't be doing this.

I think I was just in, like, f*ck-it mode.

-f*ck yeah.
-[Taylor] Wait, wait, wait.

Back up though,
what's going on with you and Jessi?

Like, it keeps popping up.

[chuckles] Like you two fighting.

[Chase] I'm just texting Jessi
to try to resolve this.

And then Jordan texted me and was like,

"You're-- f*cking never text
my wife again.

You're terrible to women."

Which I was like, that's wildly ironic.

[Layla] I mean, you've said multiple times
that you think Jessi's hot.

-So you're waiting...
-[Chase] I do.

[Layla] ...to grab that bag
the second that he does fumble it.

No, I think that the whole
Jessi thing, to be honest,

is, is, is a buildup of projection.

-Yeah.
-[Chase] Jessi has

more money than she'll ever need,

she has a business that I think
she really enjoys doing.

Like, she gets fulfillment out
of her job, I know she does.

But it's like she's still not happy
'cause you go home every day

and you're with someone
that I don't think makes you feel

like you have a relaxed nervous system.

I think when there's, like, a disconnect

in your relationship,
it, like, actually is helpful

when you have a common enemy.

I feel like she's starting
to resent herself

because I feel like she knows
that she should leave

and that that's the right decision.

But I feel like she's, like, has
this internal battle constantly

of, like, "I need to stay,
I don't want to stay,

I need to stay, I don't want to stay,"
and it's constantly going back and forth.

So I feel like she's starting
to, like, almost, like,

hate herself, and then
she also hates Jordan.

[Taylor] It's that in-between.

In MomTok right now,
we have two stable relationships.

[chuckles] The odds aren't looking great.

MomTok can make some k*ller TikToks,

just not successful relationships.

I love my girl Jessi,
but Jordan, I cannot defend.

We all feel the same.

[♪ lively music playing]

-[audience cheering]
-We are back with Whitney Leavitt.

Um, you're heading to Broadway.

[interviewer] You've moved on
to bigger and better things...

-Yes.
-[interviewer] ...Roxie.

-I know. I know!
-[interviewer] How does that feel?

[photographer] Gorgeous, hold that.

Oh, that's beautiful.
Absolutely beautiful, Whitney.

I'm here getting all glammed up
with my husband

to be on the cover of Bride magazine.

And we are officially
less than a week away

to my Broadway debut as Roxie Hart.

-It's just so surreal.
-[Conner] Are you kidding me?

I'm married to a princess.

This is my first time
living in New York City.

This is a huge adjustment for us.

Like, we're coming from a home
into this little apartment

in a city, not having a car.

But this is exciting. I love it.

Oh, Layla's calling.

[Conner] Answer.

[sing-songy] ♪ Hello, Layla ♪

[sing-songy] ♪ Hello, Layla ♪

-[laughing]
-[Layla] My favorite people, how are you?

-So good.
-We miss you.

[Layla] I freaking miss
your faces so much.

-Yes, queen.
-[Layla] I'm so excited

to see you soon though.

Like, opening night's so soon.

You just saying that,
my heart started beating so fast.

[Layla] Oh, my gosh,
you're gonna k*ll it.

-I literally am gonna be stunned.
-I hope so.

I feel like I am just
completely disassociating.

I am so nervous, but I'm excited.

And MomTok is flying out to New York

to attend my opening night.

They may not know it, but for me,
it's calming my nerves.

I just feel... overwhelmingly grateful.

How are you and Mason?

[Layla] He's the best.
He's gonna be coming opening night, too.

-Oh!
-Okay, good.

-I'm excited to see him.
-[Layla] Yeah.

Good, we need to put him on the list then.

[Layla] And I don't know if any
other husbands are coming.

I can ask some of the girls
when I see them...

-[Whitney] Okay.
-[Layla] ...but yeah.

I think Jen's coming too, which is...

[Whitney] She is coming?
Or you think she's coming?

[Layla] No, I-- She bought a ticket.
She's coming, yeah.

That surprises me.

[Layla] Yeah.

Um, why?

[Layla] I'm gonna be honest,
I don't know.

I'm kinda confused, too,

just because your relationship,
to her end,

-she said there is no relationship, so...
-[Conner] Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, the last thing that happened

was she ignored me

and then she had her husband come
and harass me

-and then hasn't talked to me at all.
-[Layla] Yeah.

I have very mixed emotions

as to why Jen is flying out to New York

because her husband made it
very clear where she stood.

"Let's be friends again
'cause I don't want this

-"exposed to the media...
-No, I didn't.

-I didn't.
-"...'cause I'm gonna get voted off...

-No, I didn't.
-...'cause I'm a mean girl."

Why do you think the whole world,

all of social media,
thinks that about you?

-N--
-People can see your true colors.

It doesn't feel like, what?

-[Layla] Genuine.
-It's very contradicting.

-It doesn't make any sense.
-[Layla] Yeah.

So why would you buy a ticket to New York?

It feels performative to me.

Just like the fact that
you didn't reach out

or tell me that you were coming here

feels very disingenuous and unauthentic.

But I feel like, whatever.

Enjoy the show, b*tch.

-I'm good.
-[Conner] Yeah.

-Yes.
-Oh!

[♪ "Feels Good" by Tina Parol
feat. Otto Blue playing]

♪ Hands up, enjoy the ride... ♪

People are always asking me,
"Jessi, does it bug you

when your friends go to another salon?"

-[friend] Jessi, please, I'm sorry.
-No! Shh, shh.

See that cop staring at us?

He's probably gonna pull us over.

-What cop?
-He's literally like this.

-He's like, I know that car.
-[chuckles]

Well, I'm excited for New York

'cause I feel like we haven't been
on a MomTok trip in a minute.

I know.

Last one was Dancing with the Stars.

-[Mayci] Yeah.
-Was that our last one?

I was wondering if Jen
was still really struggling

with that and that's why, but...

I know, but she's struggling
with everything.

I don't know if Jen is jealous
in the sense of, like,

she doesn't want Whitney to succeed,

but Whitney is getting
the bigger opportunities.

And after watching our season back,
Zac was saying,

"I don't want to be known
as just Jen's husband."

And Conner was like,
"Oh, my gosh, that's my Instagram bio."

So, it really is just
a lose-lose situation.

I don't know. I think she had really,
really high expectations

maybe for Dancing with the Stars.

I think she thought she was gonna win.

Yeah, which is great to have that thought,

but I'm like also, like, you were, like,
so freshly postpartum.

-Yeah, give yourself grace.
-Like, just be-- Yeah.

I think if Whitney and her
hadn't been on the same season,

-it wouldn't have been as problematic.
-No, for sure not.

Yeah.

But I hope they can
work it out in New York

and just, like, get
some closure and move on.

I'm wondering how that will go.

Are Chase and Jordan still fighting?

They're, like, just not friends anymore.

What was the beef that him
and Jordan had again?

Because all of a sudden,
Jordan's like, I don't like Chase,

'cause I didn't know what happened.

Okay, well, Chase
doesn't even know about it.

[overlapping chatter]

They're fighting over me.

-Oh, my God.
-[Jessi] Um, no, no, no, no.

-Um,...
-It is though, isn't it?

-It is--
-'Cause he said that he would F you?

So, Layla-- Okay,
but Chase doesn't even know

-Jordan's mad about this.
-[Mikayla] Oh.

But Layla texted me out
of the blue and was like,

"Chase thinks you're hot."
And I was like, "What?"

Then I was like, "What do you mean?"

And she goes, "He said
that if you and Jordan

ever got divorced, he would
use you to stay in MomTok."

-[gasps]
-And I'm like, "First of all, ew.

"And second of all, what makes
you think I would allow that?

-"And third of all...
-Yeah.

...that's not being a good friend
to Jordan again."

It's not shocking to me
that Jordan is upset

that Chase called Jessi hot.

I think just being
a female is Chase's type.

And if you're in MomTok and you're taken,

even more so.

He gets a thrill out of it.

[Mayci] Um, was Jordan invited
to Dakota's birthday?

-No, which--
-Not even invite--

He's out of town,
so, like, maybe that's why, but--

[Mikayla] He invited, like,
Jace and Jacob,

-which I feel like he's not that close to.
-Who he's not close with.

Yeah. And Chase, who he absolutely hates
but pretends to be friends with.

And I also hate that he's like,

"I have to be close with Chase
so he doesn't sleep with Taylor."

-First of all, you have a girlfriend.
-Huh?

And second of all, Taylor's gonna do
what Taylor's gonna do regardless.

-If you're friends with them or not.
-If anything,

she'd probably do it in spite.

I said she would, like,
"I f*cked your friend."

-Like, she would do that.
-[laughing] He's so dumb.

Jordan was like, if I was in town though,

I would go to the party and just crash it

to, like, confront Chase.

-Oh, my gosh.
-[Jessi] I know.

-We should crash the party.
-[Mayci] No way.

-Why?
-Wait, you actually want to?

When have the men ever not crashed
anything that we're throwing?

-That's so true.
-Like, they show up

to everything.

That's true, actually.

-[Jessi] Wait, wait--
-And he's going? Chase is going?

-Ask-- Ask Jace.
-I can ask Jace, Jace is there.

'Cause it's happening right now, right?

I'll go. I'm not kidding.

-Shut up. Shut up.
-Especially after everything he's said,

like, should we start with the lies
or the disrespect?

Because there's both.

Okay, wait, Jace says that he is.

-He's there?
-Well, he was invited,

but he's not there yet.

Where's the party at then?

It's at Redline Racing.

-[Jessi] Okay.
-I think that's what it's called.

It's at, like, a go-kart...

[producer] Wait, are you guys serious?

[producer] You want to go
over there right now?

Should we just drive there

and then if he does pull in,
we just jump out and talk to him?

-Yes.
-[Jessi] I'm down.

I don't know why Jessi even puts energy

into this whole situation with Chase.

Like, we know he's a scumbag.

Like, we know he's gonna
do things for the plot.

[Mikayla] Are we making a U-turn?

-Yeah.
-[Mikayla] Okay.

Something is up for sure.

-Wait, what's his car look like?
-'Kay, wait.

-I don't know what his car looks like.
-It's a white Tesla

with a breathalyzer attached.

[all laughing]

I'm feeling excited about
my plan to ambush Chase

because he is pretty calculated,

and I think if he has time to think about
what he's gonna say,

then it would be
a harder conversation to have.

But since I'm catching him off guard,

I'm just gonna tell him how I feel
and we'll see what he says.

I want you to just go in there
and start... [grunting]

-Widen his a*s up.
-f*ck you, Chase!

-You start doing some of these, yeah.
-I'm like...

[Jessi] f*ck you, Demi!
You know nothing about the situation.

-Jessi!
-Demi, you know nothing!

[voice echoing]

You know what would have been
such a funny birthday present

for Dakota is if I gave him a book.

One of my books.

-Shut up.
-Can you imagine how funny that would be?

Wait, I think I have one of them
in my car.

-Shut up, you do not.
-I'm not kidding

'cause you gave me two.

[all laughing]

[Jessi] Wait, where do I pull in?
Right here?

They're gonna see me, is this okay?

Yeah, I don't think
they're gonna see you

if you park right here.

[Mayci] Wait, I got nervous.
I'm so scared.

I just feel weird
crashing someone's birthday.

-[Mikayla] I know.
-Okay, look in my trunk

'cause I'm pretty sure
the book's back there.

I'm such a creep.

-[Mayci] Oh, my God.
-I'm such a creep.

Is it?

Yes! Okay, good.

Okay, now you need to write him a message.

Do we go in?

[producer] Wait until you
actually see the car,

just so he doesn't turn around.

-Why would he turn around?
-[Jessi] Okay.

[producer] 'Cause he's scared of
you three broads.

As he should be.

Guys, you know I'm gonna have a wedgie
when I get out of this g*dd*mn car.

[giggling]

-[Mikayla] Is that him?
-[Jessi] Yeah.

-Wait. I think it is, it's white.
-[Mayci] Is it white or black?

-It's white, that's him.
-It's white, that's him.

-Don't be too obvious.
-I know, I'm trying not to stare.

-What is his face like?
-Well, there's only so obvious

we can be in a blue G-Wagon.

-Wait, hold on, get out now.
-Okay. Ooh!

[Mayci] Smash his car.

[♪ intense music playing]

Why is Jessi smiling at him?

[Chase] Hi!

-Wow.
-[Jessi] Hi, friend,

I think we need to talk.

[Chase] I think so.

He's like, "Ooh, oh my God, Jessi."

He's turned on right now.

[Chase] How are ya?

Good, how are you?

-[Chase] Good.
-Wait, I can't hear anything.

-I can't hear anything.
-[Mayci] Go.

[Jessi] I have my bodyguards with me.

Oh. Well, I do think we should talk about

some of the behavior that I do think
I was out of line for.

Do you want to start
with the lies or the disrespect?

'Cause we can go into either.

[Chase] Uh, I don't know that
there's a whole--

-a whole lot of lies.
-[Jessi] There's a lie.

Okay, so let's talk about
the disrespect then.

You bringing up Jordan yelling at me--

[Chase] You brought up
my marriage that ended,

-and my DUI.
-[Jessi] Yes, exactly.

So where does the disrespect
end for you?

Because you started it.

I'm not mad that you went
and hung out with him.

I'm not trying to control you.

It's the fact that Jordan and I
are choosing to work through this,

and bringing a guy like that
who was really traumatic to us

back on our show to film
is really inappropriate.

[Mikayla] Our show.

A, when you've told me
that you wouldn't do it.

Might be ours now, Mikayla,
'cause I'm on it too, babe.

-Okay.
-[Mikayla] Can't if you're in jail, so...

Are you on the poster
or are you in MomTok?

-[Chase] In jail?
-Do you have the same salary as us?

-Get real.
-Got more than your husband.

Okay, what I'm saying is that
if you run into him at a party,

-say hi to him, I don't care.
-Yeah.

It was the fact that you split
an Airbnb with him,

you're doing content,
you're bringing him on our show.

He wants to be on our show again.

It feels like you did it for the plot.

I swear to God, I--
I originally booked the Airbnb

-having no idea--
-No, no, no, no.

-No, he messaged you.
-No.

-You told me that.
-You need to just admit

-that you're doing it for clout.
-[Chase] I'm not.

You didn't come on--

Marciano doesn't help me
with clout, Mikayla.

-No, but it gives you a storyline.
-Being on this show,

-having a storyline...
-It gives you a storyline.

-Yeah, well--
-...it gives you attention,

and gives you clout.
That's why you're here.

I'm so sorry, Marciano being
on this show isn't because of me.

Guess what?
Me having an affair a year and a half ago

isn't like g*n to your head,
go to Sundance with him

a year and a half later.

-Okay, well, you hold up--
-This isn't my fault,

and that's rich coming from you.

For you to say your husband screams at you
with the fridge open.

In what way does he have more
to work on than you do,

you piece of sh*t?

-Oh, hi, guys.
-Hey, Zac.

-What's up?
-Hey.

-Cool-- Cool new car.
-Good to see you. Oh, thank you.

[Jessi] You have DUIs, you drive drunk,

you've cheated on your wife
more times than I can count,

more than me kissing someone twice.

-That's all you do.
-[Chase] That's actually, you don't know--

You're a piece of sh*t
to every woman you've ever met.

-No, I'm not.
-You need to treat people better, Chase.

Why do you think me and Litia are friends?
Why do you think that me and...

[Jessi] Because you
haven't screwed her over yet.

[Mikayla] This puts Miranda
in an uncomfortable

position time and time again.
time and time again.

Me and Miranda are good,
don't speak for Miranda.

-[Jessi] We're not saying that.
-We're fine.

But you're always putting her
in uncomfortable situations

'cause of your actions.

You think she wants the father
of her kids to have a DUI?

No, but you keep making dumb decisions.

[Mayci] Yep.

-What's up, birthday boy?
-There you are.

Dude, I walked up to, uh, your wives

lighting Chase up out there.

-[Jacob] Who?
-[Dakota] Who?

Chase is out there, and your wives
and Jessi are out there

just going insane.

-[Jacob] Right now?
-Ye-yes.

[Dakota] Oh, shut the f*ck up.

[Jacob] I'll be right back.

[Dakota] Wait, why is Jessi here?

-[Zac] I don't know.
-[Dakota] Oh, f*ck,

did she come to find my a*s too?

I don't know.

[Dakota] Dude, I gotta take
this thing off, I can't breathe.

Yeah, I have receipts on you.

-[Chase] Yeah, I do too.
-[Mayci] Happy birthday.

-Thank you, appreciate it.
-[Mayci chuckles]

[Chase] What is a receipt then?
Like a CVS printout receipt?

-You're missing the entire point.
-I didn't have time to wrap it.

[Chase] If it's the thing about, like,

thinking that you're attractive,
I stand by that.

[Mikayla] Huh?

-Happy birthday.
-Yes!

-Just for you.
-Oh, my gosh, thank you.

I even wrote you a little note inside.

-You did?
-Yeah.

This is actually amazing.

[Chase] I have heard so many
times that he's said sh*t about me.

[Chase] Like that he...
thinks that he thinks

I'm the world's biggest, like, as*h*le.

I don't know if he reads,
but I had to give him a copy of my book.

Gave him even a signed edition
with a little note,

"To my biggest fan. Love, Mayci."

Or actually "From Mayci."
I don't think I said "Love."

And by the way, Jessi, because
I haven't been able to say this yet,

I was heated
and I didn't handle it the right way.

But I do respect you.

If you guys are working on your marriage,
I'm all about that.

-But, like, I also--
-No, you're not, clearly.

The issue that I have--
Well, what's the point of an apology

if everything I said when I was mad,
I can never back off of.

I think it's just 'cause I see a pattern
of, like, you apologize

and then you do it again.

I'm gonna take him in
if that's okay with you guys.

Is this your new boyfriend?

-No, I mean, I-- We-- It's my birthday.
-[overlapping chatter]

...like, just not disrespect
each other anymore.

-That's really just what I want.
-Totally. If that's where

we have to come to, I get it.

Also, just admit that
you're here for clout, please.

-For the love of God.
-You are, too.

I can't wait to see
your next DUI on the news.

-[Chase] Uh. Alright.
-[Mikayla] Okay, let's...

Okay, well, have a good birthday.

See you, thank you.

-Happy birthday.
-See you guys.

-Have a great day, Mikayla.
-See you, Mikayla.

-I'll keep posting sh*t.
-See you, "Jayci."

[Jessi] No, that was the exact point
of this conversation,

-stop posting about us.
-She just told me

she's gonna watch
for my next DUI on the news.

How about you tell her
to stop saying the same sh*t

-you asked me not to do?
-How about you stop drinking

and driving and doing dumb sh*t?

-[Chase] No, I'll post whatever.
-That's all I'm saying

is don't be disrespectful online anymore.

I'll post whatever I need to,
by the way, Mikayla.

[Mikayla] I'm so over Chase.

He doesn't see what's wrong with himself,

so, like, why am I arguing with him?

DadTok has always been trying
to ride off the coattails of MomTok,

so I'm just over it.

I'll keep posting, so I'm-- I'm blocked.

So you don't have
to worry about it anyway.

[Mikayla] As long as you're not
drinking and driving.

Love you, honey.

[♪ lively music playing]

♪ I get it done ♪

♪ You want it, I got it ♪

♪ You know they call it, can't stop it ♪

♪ If you can't handle, just watch it ♪

♪ I'm gonna double the money... ♪

[Mikayla] I don't even know what to wear.

I could bring my New York one
that I wore once.

-[Jace] Cute.
-[Mikayla] Are you excited to see Conner?

-[Jace] Yeah, I am excited...
-I love Conner.

...to see Conner actually, yeah.

[Mikayla] I feel like
there's been a lot less tension

and, like, stress on mine
and Jace's marriage recently.

I think for Jace, obviously,
the main thing was

the intimate side of things.

Where for me, it was more,

okay, we need to work
on the emotional side of things.

But at the end of the day,
it's just making our kids

a top priority and what's gonna
be best for them

and also for our marriage.

I want to smush you.

You're so cute, come here.

Yeah. Mwah.

Ew, it was very wet.

-[lips sputtering]
-Oh, look, I gave her some of my gloss.

We're doing a MomTok trip to New York

to see Whitney on her opening night,

and some husbands
and boyfriends are coming.

At least the good ones.

This is the first time
we're all gonna be together

after the main title blow-up.

[Whitney] No one wanted you around.

I was the one that vouched
for you every f*cking time.

So, there's a little bit of,
you know, fear going into it.

But I think one thing that
this group is so good at

is when we do need
to all be there for each other,

we all show up.

Wait, why do I feel like
these are so cute?

Nice, babe.

Would they be cute for snow

and 30-degree weather and walking though?

[Jace] No, those are gonna be tough.

-[phone ringing]
-Wait, hold-- Taylor's calling me.

I have one boot on, one slipper.

This is my fit.

[Taylor] I like it.

We're packing for New York,
and I'm stressed

'cause I literally have nothing.

I haven't thought--
I'll be thinking about it Saturday night.

[Mikayla] Well, they have
a Vivrelle showroom in New York.

They're a membership club
that I use to borrow designer bags.

They ship nationwide,

but I haven't checked out
their showroom in New York,

so I'm really excited to see it.

Isn't it pretty?

Oh, yes, that's so pretty.
Is that what you're gonna get?

-I have to be there.
-It's gonna be so much fun.

-I'm actually so excited.
-I'm really excited to see Whitney,

like, actually sing and perform.

Is she singing?

[Mikayla] Taylor, good Lord.

Do you not know? [laughing]

"Is she singing?"

It's Chicago, the musical.

Like, she's the main person,
and she's singing.

[chuckles] God bless you.

[♪ upbeat music playing]

♪ What this, this little thing? ♪

♪ I just threw it on
'cause it matched my shades ♪

♪ Biz, my middle name ♪

♪ But I don't talk shop
when I'm here for hangs and... ♪

-Hello!
-[Jen] What's up? What's up, h*s?

-[Jessi] Whoo!
-She's a new woman.

They look so good.

-How do you feel?
-No, I can literally, I can jump,

and they aren't going anywhere.

[Mayci] Your n*pples are out.

-Just kidding.
-[all laugh]

Today, MomTok is meeting up at a gym

to make some fun content
before we all leave to New York.

Do you want me to,
like, follow you or, like...

Yeah, so walk back,
and I will just follow you

-and have them in the back.
-Okay.

-[♪ upbeat music playing]
-[Jen lip-synching to video]

-Okay.
-[Jen] Is that good?

-Oh.
-[♪ music stops]

-Whitney's calling me.
-[gasps] Oh.

[Jen] Hello?

[Whitney] [on phone] Hello?
Oh, I'm surprised you answered.

-I...
-[Jen] What's up?

[Whitney] I just had a question.

I heard that you were coming
to New York for opening night.

I am.

[Whitney] Well, I'm surprised,

'cause the last place that we left off

was your husband basically telling me

you guys didn't want anything
to do with me

and that you didn't care
about me and-- or this friendship.

Do you not want me to be there?

Is that why you're calling me?

[Whitney] I just want to understand

the intention behind it

and me even having to call you to find out

that you're coming
and your intentions of coming.

[Jen] Like, in the past,
I've had a lot of fear

communicating my feelings

and people-pleasing has been
a huge factor in that,

but part of me just feels sad

about how everything
has kind of played out.

So, I'm definitely ready to have

this uncomfortable conversation
with Whitney

because I still weirdly care
about her and love her.

I... still have hard feelings,

but I do think as a group,

it's still important
to show up and support.

And I also was hoping that we could talk.

[Whitney] Okay, I mean,
you didn't need to buy a ticket

to New York to talk to me.

I'm just, again,
I'm just a phone call away.

If anything, I thought
you would maybe appreciate

me showing up for you and showing support

when you haven't felt that from me before.

[Whitney] Um, I tried
to do that multiple times

with you in LA, Jen.

I messaged you, I texted you,
I wanted to meet up-- meet up with you.

-Um--
-Instead of you saying you're not coming,

you had your husband come and that--

Okay, but you-- you wanted to meet up
with me the day after I got eliminated.

When I also just saw you start laughing

when I got eliminated
in front of millions of people,

I was in a very... bad place.

-But I feel like it's been...
-[Whitney] Okay.

[Jen] ...a long enough...

-I-it's been a couple months.
-[Whitney] Jen--

And I just want to move past everything

and just support each other and move on.

-[Whitney] Okay.
-Either way, I've boughten my flights.

I've committed, I've gotten a babysitter,

and I'm... coming to New York to support.

[Whitney] Yeah.

-Okay, I, um...
-[Whitney] Okay.

...I guess I'll see you in New York then.

[Whitney] Yes, I'll see you then.
Okay, good-bye.

[Jen] Bye.

-[Jessi] Were you expecting that?
-Nope, was not.

How are you feeling?

[breathes deeply]

I feel mixed emotions.

I'm kind of in the stage
of life where I'm like,

I'm trying to speak my truth.

Whitney is passionate about her feelings,

and sometimes, it can be
a little bit intimidating.

I want to be able to speak my truth, too,

but I do think it's also important for me
to take accountability.

Hopefully, she can do the same for me.

Yeah, maybe we will
never be friends again,

but we can be coworkers.

-Yeah.
-I just want to show up and address it.

Yeah.

[smacks lips]

♪ Ooh la-la ♪

♪ Ooh la-la ♪

♪ Let's get it, get it ♪

♪ Oo-Ooh la-la... ♪

We're gonna go look
at this house with my mom.

I just want to get your opinion
on the houses 'cause, you know--

-Okay.
-You know, I don't know,

-I feel you guys have good taste.
-Yes, of course.

Taylor is currently house-hunting

and looking for a new house.

Her mom is a realtor.

It's actually probably good
for her to get out of the house

she's been in, away from Dakota.

Sometimes, the energy,
the bad energy is in that house

and she kinda needs to get out.

What's the tea? What's going on?
What's the update?

I feel like you guys are updated
with all the sh*t.

So, my thing is today when we are
with my mom, just do not,

do not, I repeat, bring up
anything sexual with men.

Does your mom know that
you slept with Dakota

right when you got back from Bachelorette?

[Taylor] Absolutely not.
Why would she know that?

[Mikayla] What do you think
your mom's reaction would be?

"[sighs] Taylor, are you for real?"

-Taylor, for real?
-Are you for real?

Gosh, Taylor, are you for real?

-F-I-L-L is what it sounds like, fill.
-Yeah.

-Be for real. "Be fa-rill."
-I feel, I fill.

-That's Utah.
-"Be fa-rill."

-"Bill for rill, Taylor."
-[laughs]

[Taylor] I am moving because I feel
like I just need a fresh start.

I actually left The Bachelorette
a little bit healthier.

And then I got home,
and I just backtracked even worse.

So, I'm like, that is
the one thing I want to do

is find a new place,
start over, start fresh.

I want a place
with no memories with Dakota.

Did you bring the whole crew with you?

-Got the whole crew.
-Hi! Brought the girls.

[Mikayla] Only the important ones.

[Mayci] I didn't even see you
out here for a second.

-How are you?
-Good, how are you?

-Good.
-Hi, Mom.

[♪ upbeat music playing]

-Oh.
-Ooh, cute.

Built in 1996.

I can sense that.

[old film reel whirring]

This is a nice big primary bedroom.

[Mikayla] Bathtub is massive.

You could fit, like,
three six-foot men in there.

-[Liann] Ew, no men.
-This is actually...

[Liann] And jets. That's gross.

[Liann] I hate jetted tubs.

-They're dirty.
-[Taylor] Unless they hit the good spot.

-[Liann] Ew.
-Oh, Taylor!

-[Liann] Sheesh.
-[laughing]

Sink, closet.

This is a closet
you could hide a man in--

-[Liann] Oh.
-A man in

-when another one comes to the door.
-Yeah, yeah. [laughing]

You know, it wouldn't be fun house-hunting

if we didn't put in hypothetical scenarios

of which man would live in which room.

Like, we got Ben on the roster,
Doug, Dakota.

So, it's like you may want
to have a different space

for each of these guys, right?

If we're, like, you know,
bringing 'em around so much.

Who was that?

-Ben.
-[Mikayla] What does he say?

Oh, it was last night.
I just thought he'd text me.

-"Love."
-[Mikayla] Look, Taylor.

Hold on. [laughing]

Well, I'm trying to find the one

-"Love," this one.
-That's a lot of loves and hearts.

She tells a lot of people
she loves them these days.

Yeah. So what's going on with Doug?

When have you told me you love me?

[Mikayla] Oh, yeah,
have you told Doug you love him?

I've always said I love you guys.

Um, what about him?

[Liann] What's going on with Doug?

I broke things off, the engagement.

-Okay.
-I feel like he...

hasn't been interested
since we got home, and I told you that.

I know you told me that.

So, for me, it's like,
I don't want to waste

another two years with someone
that's like, "I don't know."

Like, where you have that
I-don't-know feeling

where I don't have that with Ben.

I did like Doug the whole time.

I've wanted to talk to him.

I-- I'm the one who kind of
initiated it all.

I think it clicked for me

because he was like
barely asking anything re--

nothing of significance
to the conversation,

and then Ben texts me saying,

"Hey, like, how are you? How are things?"

Like, it ended up being
a six-hour phone call.

You just can see the effort.
If someone wants to, they will.

It's really that simple.

It does piss me off. It does piss me off.

I know Ben is, like, head over heels.

[Liann] I know, but you're supposed
to be engaged to Doug.

-But I'm not.
-[Liann] I know...

-Okay.
-...but two, like, for the show,

you're on Bachelorette,
so you have a contract with them

-until June.
-[Taylor] Yeah, on The Bachelorette show,

I broke off the engagement.

So, I've done everything the right way.

-[Mikayla] Oh.
-And you have gotten permission from them

for Ben to come in?

-I-- I don't--
-Um, I don't need

to ask permission for that.

[Liann] I know, but...
I would think that you would.

[Mayci] You just can't be
seen with him, though.

[Taylor] Sure, that's true.

[overlapping chatter]

[Liann] You can talk to him or whatever,

but I just feel like seeing him,
if you're seeing him

or planning to see him,
you don't do that until June.

You feel like you need, like, a moment
just to be, like, alone?

You just go from one guy
to another to another

and you just never give that space.

-Like Dakota, for instance.
-[Mayci] Yeah.

You're sleeping with him
before you go on...

a fricking Bachelorette, right before.

-Yeah, and what about it?
-Okay? It's just, it's a lot.

[♪ tense music playing]

It's come to a point where
I feel, like, morally wrong

hiding these secrets.

She hasn't even told her mom
she slept with Dakota yet

the night she got home
from The Bachelorette.

I feel like it just enables her more,

like, all these bad decisions
that me and Mayci are like,

"Okay, well, like, we'll keep this secret

and, like, make sure you're okay,"

but I'm like, at what point
is it too much?

Because I just don't want
to do it anymore.

At the end of the day,
we're all coming from a place of,

first of all, being here
with you for years

and seeing you go through it
and get heartbroken

again and again and again and again,

but it also gets to a point
where it's just frustrating

and it's hard to watch you
do the same thing

over and over again...

-Because we all want you to be happy.
-...'cause we just want you to be happy.

And we know that you have
to figure it out for yourself...

-[Mikayla] Yeah.
-...but if we can help you in any way

or be someone to vent to,

like, that's what we're here for,
is what we're saying.

Give yourself time
to, like, get to know Taylor

-without a man.
-[Mayci] Yes, yes.

But that-- that's you in your life
what you would do.

I am not you and never will be you,
set that in your brain.

-I'm never gonna be you.
-[Liann] I'm not. I know.

And I will make my own decisions.

I'd be in a boring-a*s marriage,

miserable, if I listen
to everyone around me.

-No.
-No, that's bullshit.

[Mikayla] I think Taylor thinks
just, like, throwing new men

into the mix and, like, more distractions

is going to fix her problem,

but it isn't going to and it hasn't.

It's been proven it hasn't
for the last four years.

I think it's very clear that
Taylor needs to make a lot of changes,

and I guess this is another one
of her breaking points.

I'm not saying I'm proud
of the things I've done.

Would I do it differently? Yes.

But because I've done 'em,
I've landed in the spots that I have.

Taylor never listens to us

when we give her advice,

even though she's like, "I don't want
to bring you guys into this."

But I'm like, "But we
already are into this.

It already does affect
everyone around you."

I can't shake this feeling

that something bad is going to happen.

I re-- regret nothing.

Wanted to get Mason,
like, a really nice watch.

[Mikayla] Her love language
is gift-giving,

but it is too much if you're
getting taken advantage of.

I feel like in MomTok,
we've really tried to break

the gender roles and push the boundaries.

I'm dating you to be my wife.
Like, I'm looking for a wife.

But it also comes at a price.

-It feels complicated.
-It is.

So, what happens when you
don't have to hide it anymore?

It is Whitney's opening night of Chicago.

I don't want to f*ck it up.

[Mikayla] I'm just so happy
that we're all together

supporting Whitney.

Anytime I do have a conversation
with her, it just gets--

-Escalated?
-Yes.

[Jen] Whitney, do you have time to talk?

♪ All these city lights ♪

♪ Stars in my eyes ♪

♪ Bring me to life, I need it ♪

♪ We're taking tonight to go on a ride ♪

♪ Bring me to life, I need it ♪

♪ All these city lights ♪

♪ Stars in my eyes ♪

♪ We're taking tonight ♪

♪ Bring me to life, I need it ♪