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01x06 - The Phantom and the Electric Way

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "On the Roam". Aired: January 18, 2024.*
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Jason Momoa travels across the country to meet the extraordinary individuals blazing their own path - from craftsmen, to motorcycle fabricators, musicians to athletes.

01x06 - The Phantom and the Electric Way

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- Yeah, me neither.
- Well, he finally

- taught you what you know.
- Yeah.

So...

Bro

I feel the... bro.

An energy. I feel it, in a good way.

This'll be next, so that way,
it's an SG then it's that Explorer.

I think, this is far better
if it were to go...

over here.

I'm not gonna lie to you, guys.
I'm pretty f*cking nervous.

You know, I'm not known for my...

even enunciating.

A bit of a mumbler.

I don't even like
doing interviews now.

I'm f*cking interviewing one
of my heroes, I'm like...

I'm like, "Acting?

Sure, I don't have to look
at that f*cking thing."

Appetite.

Appetite.

Firebird...

'58.

There's not one type of music
I just don't like.

Yeah.

To me,
it's the most powerful art form

that humans can create.

Sings to our souls, it talks to us

it instantly puts us
into a time, and a place

and a feeling, and a memory.

When you hear a legendary guitar sing

you can hear the stories bound
into the wood


the memories that remain
from years on the road.


These guitars become time capsules

and they'll bring you back
like nothing else can.


For me, nobody embodies this

more than Slash
and the Gibson Les Paul.


That's my childhood

that shape, that look

Slash just shirt off, leather pants

hair everywhere, top hat

and just leaning back...

Had a cigarette and just being, like

"That guy is cool as hell."

What's up, bro?

'Sup with you, man?

I have one
of the most embarrassing stories.

But, I was... I... You know...

I wasn't supposed to watch MTV
and all that stuff

but I'd go to the babysitter's
and be watching

like, "Paradise City" and Mötley Crüe

and all these things that my mom
didn't want me watching.

And I'm just doing circles,
and it's the part where, like

Slash is about ready to kick off

and it's like hitting the high note

and then he's just going around

just the whole stage
and just k*lling it.

And I'm jamming, I'm jamming

and all of a sudden,
my pants fall down.

My... my sweatpants fall down,
and I trip over 'em

and my a*s is out,
and these girls are staring at me

and I was like hitting the high note,
like Slash, like, "Yeah!"

And I f*cking still love this video.

This is the part that...

- Okay, sorry.
- ...I've really been waiting for.

Here we go.

You gonna light the studio?
If you don't mind.

We need something...

- Some...
- Let's do that one first.

Okay.

Yeah, bro.

So, that's the original number 250F.

- So, this guitar was the second...
- Oh, my god!

second Sunburst Gibson ever made.

And you know how the Sunburst
is such a popular finish.

- Bro! Hold up, hold up.
- I guess, I want to... a simple...

One of you guys get in here
and look at this thing.

It is so beautiful.

That was a sticker. I've no...
It's still...

- I have no idea where I got it.
- Don't pick it.

I mean... I was like...

You're just picking it
like it's nothing, so I'm...

So... Oh, my gosh, dude.

- It is unbelievable.
- So...

Each guitar,
they all have their own magic.

They all have their own mojo.

There's like little, odd things
or hums, or different feelings to 'em

and they all have
their different sounds.

Like, you could play
a hundred guitars

and not one of 'em are alike.

So, I think when you have something
that's been on the road

that's lived through it,
that's taken the smoke

and the... the feeling

and the energy from these rooms
in going to these shows

they have their own soul.

It takes form with these musicians
who puts that magic in there

and so I wanna just highlight
and celebrate the artist

and his tool.

That's my main live guitar,
with, yeah...

- So, I've had this since...
- Bro!

I got it for...
It's a 1987 Les Paul Standard.

This is the one
with that cigarette burn.

Yeah, and her name's Jessica.

This is one of the few guitars
that actually has a name, but...

I can't believe this is an '87.

Yeah, well,
it's just seen a lotta travel.

I don't even know the story
about the cigarette burn

my... guitar tech could tell you

he knows exactly, and I asked him
I said, "How did that happen?"

I was playing with Alice Cooper,
apparently, when that happened.

And I guess the cherry just...
the cigarette fell.

And I guess
I was so toxic at that point

it just stuck to the f*cking guitar
and just burnt.

- That's amazing.
- Yeah.

When I got to see these guitars

it's so very special

and I didn't think they were gonna be
that impactful on me

but it is.

All right.

These are literally the guitars

that created the sound
of my childhood.


I cannot believe that I get
to see them


much less hold them.

So, this is the actual original AFD.

I still got a pick in it
'cause I was just in the studio.

So, a funny story about this guitar

when g*ns first started out

I went through
a lot of different guitars

but they're... from 1985 through '86

I had a really cool Steve Hunter...

- pre-owned Steve Hunter Les Paul.
- Yeah.

And then during sort of
that period of mine, I sold it

and... and I didn't really have
any guitars.

So, when we were doing
the Appetite For Destruction record

I was using a couple guitars
that I had

that didn't sound very good.

So, I was sorta freaking out,
'cause we were doing basic tracks

and I was, like,
"These guitars sound like sh*t."

And our manager at the time

he came up when I was going in
to do the guitar over drums

and showed up at the studio
with this particular guitar.

And so this was, you know,
my main recording guitar, obviously

and then I took it
on the road for a while

and I thought
I should retire this from touring.

So, well, it was still pretty beat up
just from that, you know.

But you keep it in the studio...
that's what you record on?

So, I still use this in the studio.

It sounds great.
It's got a really raw

- Bro, look at you, that thing is...
- unique... unique sound to it.

- Jesus.
- I mean, I had it in the studio

a couple of days ago, and I've got
a bunch of guitars

and they're all Les Pauls, and...

But this one just
has this unique thing to it.

So you've just been in the studio

- so this is definitely...
- Yeah, that's why it's in tune.

- That's why it's...
- In fact, the other ones

- are just sitting around.
- And it's funny

'cause you said
you retired this one too, right?

Well, I mean, I just don't take it
on the road anymore.

Yeah, I mean,
that's just from 1987 to 1988.

That's just a year on the road.

- So.
- That's just a year?

I mean, it was brand new
when I got it.

So, that's why I just said, you know

I'm gonna put this one away
and just get something.

And I still do that. I like to work
with new guitars on the road.

I don't take vintage guitars out
'cause they just get banged...

I'm really rough on 'em.

So.

Well, you've seen that they're aged.
You know how it is.

Yeah, bro.

I mean, just to think about going
to your childhood hero

like, I... I mean, I love Slash.

Like, his music,
like, it blew my mind.

It... it just changed everything
for me.

So to be able to, first off, meet him

and then I was just, like...
I have this idea.

You know, he was just talking
about his guitar.

He has
the Appetite for Destruction guitar

but he's only got one of 'em.
He gave one to Axl

so he... he doesn't like
to take that one on the road

'cause they... they love them,
then they retire them

but he still wants to have
that feeling, that look

and I was like

"Oh, my god. Let's duplicate it."

What is your guitar that you...
that you have

that you would like to have a replica

so you had another one?

So, I think Jessica would be the one.

- You said that.
- Yeah.

Like, that would be the coolest one
to make it happen.

- Jessica would be the cool one?
- Yeah

because it's got so much detail.

Yeah! I... I'll see Cesar next week.

I'll tell him.
We'll show him this footage.

That's a wrap, guys.

Yeah!

Mike Hayes is possibly
the greatest musician

that nobody's heard of...

He is my dear, dear friend

and my guitar coach.

- Let me adjust the light.
- He's here?

He's coming.

All right, so it's been...

How long's... how long's it been
since you seen him... At my wedding.

Yeah, actually... No... Yeah.

Here he is.

You are still digging ribs.
Look at you.

- Huh, baby?
- How you doing, brother?

- Mike Hayes in the house.
- Oh, man.

But you stopped digging ribs.
You're so skinny, man.

- Hey, baby.
- What up, man. How are you?

- I asked... I asked about the...
- You look good.

- That's gone.
- Yeah.

Let's go, let's go, come on in.

I'm in a cabin.

- When I find a cool room.
- Okay, yeah.

Hayes had moved out to Nashville

and I was gonna go to Gibson

and I would stop at Carter's Vintage.

It was one of
my favorite guitar shops

and so, while I was there

I learned that Hayes had sold
his Les Paul

that his father gave him.

We got this whole room to ourself.

Oh, shut the door, right?

All the room to ourself.

Oh, man.

So...

Get going, brother. Get in it.

All right. I'm glad I told the...

told the wife...

So the best part is...

So we call... So... so I call him.
I'm like, "We're in town."

- He's like
- I'm like...

"Come to Carter Vintage." "I can't

My wife's pregnant.
Any second, like...

So I gotta go to the hospital."
I'm like...

And then I got off the phone,
and she looked at me...

I was, like, "I'm..."
And she looked at me

she's like, "What are you, stupid?

Go!"

Jason and I met...

I gotta have to think about this
for a second.

We met in Guitar Center, Hollywood.

I used to close a lot of deals.

But I can say I would come in
and they have me play the guitar

for the client.

He wanted to learn the Delta blues.

He didn't wanna start with, like,
you know, Mary Had A Little Lamb.

And so, he invited me
up to his house.

We started playing some
basic, basic Muddy Waters songs.

And, you know,
when you're into music like that

something that's so deep

you really form
a connection that is...

It's not just teacher and student
at that point.

You become...

become like blood brothers.

That's pretty special

because Mike Hayes
is the reason why...

I met him just before I met my wife.
Was about 15 years ago.

He's the reason why
I picked up the guitar...

Taught him everything he knows.

But he's...
Taught me everything I know.

And I fell in love with...
with music, with guitars.

And so, you moved out here.

And that's good. And... got a...

now... almost your third baby
on the way.

- Yeah, any day now.
- And...

Any day now,
which I'm excited to see your wife.

- A boy child.
- Boy child.

He's finally got a match.

But you brought your guitars here,
and you gotta...

- gotta hock 'em off.
- Oh, yeah.

I was in a tight spot
when I got here after a while

'cause things didn't work out

but I had to sell Carter's
all my guitars at a certain point

but I'm glad to see
that some of 'em are gone.

You know, sometimes in life,
you got to...

you have to do what you have to do

and it's not pretty sometimes.

And I had a Les Paul.

It was a '99 Standard

which they don't make anymore,
not like that anyways...

Yeah, my dad bought it for me
when I started to play.

So I had it everywhere
with me my whole life

and then at a certain point
in my life I wasn't doing so well

and I had to...

I had rent to pay and kids to feed.

And so, unfortunately,
I had to sell it.

It was the toughest thing
I ever had to do.

I can't remember anything
that was tougher than that.

Yeah, you're gonna fi...
we're gonna find it, the '99

- so they're on the lookout for it.
- Hey.

Well, like all musicians,
I'm a prideful kind of guy

so I don't... I don't ask
for a lot of help, you know

even when I've got friends
that are doing very well...

doing very well, you know?

I never called J to ask
for anything, you know?

And, I didn't...

I guess I just didn't
wanna tell him what I did.

Or what I had to do.

I wish he would have asked me.

I mean, a little heartbroken,
you know.

I've been in this position
where I've sold some crazy things

to friends who were just...
they took pity on me

'cause I was, like... I just needed
to put food on the table.

So there's... there's
a lot of hard moments in my life

and sometimes that's what you've
gotta lean on your friends for.

But, this is the way
it was meant to happen

and maybe we'll find
that one again, you know?

Or maybe someone has it out there
in the world, and they love it

and that's something
they always were looking for, so...

they've got something good out there.

- Mike Hayes, what's happening?
- What's cracking, babies?

- It's live, baby. Yeah.
- Oh, we're live right now?

Welcome everybody,
all 15.5 million viewers.

My name is Mike Hayes.

We are down here at Carter Vintage

- My best friend Kenny Dayle.
- What's up, guys?

- From the swamps, born up there.
- What's up, baby.

- Crazy.
- And my other best friend behind you

ladies and gentlemen,
Mr. Jason Momoa. Yes.

- So, listen. What're we doing
- Nice to be here.

- Thursday...
- Thursday night on the 24th

you know, everyone,
we're all going to BB King's

Nashville, Tennessee, about 6.00pm.

And we're gonna watch...
Do I look all right?

And we're gonna watch me
and The Mike Hayes Band play

at BB King's, Nashville, Tennessee


ladies and gentlemen.

- Peace out, guys.
- Peace and love.

We're here. Come and see us.

How was your camping?

I froze.

I was so wet.

It's so humid here that I was...

It was... I was just... I woke up...

- Yeah.
- wet.

- Yeah. Not great.
- Not a good morning.

Hey! Yeah.

Yeah,
buddy.

What's up, man?

Cesar. It's good to be here, man.

So, I went to the showroom in

- Hollywood. Super, super nervous
- Yeah, yeah.

that one, for me, 'cause I mean,
you know, I... I know Slash

but, like, I don't interview anyone.

I don't even normally
like interviews.

- Yeah...
- Let alone, like, interviewing him.

But because I'm super passionate
about this

and, you know, I...
It... it was... it was an honor.

Anyways, we edited this together...

Oh, let's just... I'll just play it.

- Okay.
- Hold on, all right.

What is your guitar that you...
that you have


that would you like
to have a... a replica


so you have another one?

I think Jessica would be the one.

- You said that.
- Yeah.


Like, that would be
the coolest one to make.


'Cause you kept bringing
that along on the road.


But you... it'd be nice
to take a new one.


Yeah. Well, now that since
you put it that way.


Maybe I should
get another AFD, like...


I think we should have
another AFD too.


You know what I mean?
He's only got two.


Probably 'cause... Yeah.
'Cause I only have two of them


and I could definitely use
another one, so let's do that.


"Let's do that."

Cesar, Cesar.

Look at that.

Okay. Okay, we have to make 'em.

We're gonna make 'em.

- Awesome.
- If you guys say so

- we're gonna make 'em.
- No, but it's...

What a... what a beautiful thing.

It's like, you know,
that's my childhood

is that seeing "Paradise City"

- and "Welcome to the Jungle," and
- Yeah...

that was the guitar.

We'll go to the custom shop
and go inside the Murphy Lab

where those guitars
are gonna be made.

That just blows my mind,
the Murphy Lab.

- Yeah.
- You're gonna be the first one

in the Murphy Lab.

We just opened it.

First of all, no outsider
will ever be able to come in

unless it's Slash
or somebody like that.

But you're gonna be the first one

to be allowed into the Murphy Lab

- Man...
- other than staff.

I'm so excited.
Today's gonna be a good day.

Dudes!

- I can't believe I'm promised gold.
- Can you believe it?

- What's up?
- Oh, man!

Pleasure to meet you.

You too, man.

Pleasure to meet
you. Holy sh*t...

I made it!

Oh, man.

- Don't scratch anything.
- Yeah, and don't scratch anything.

Check it out.

Bro...

Look at that.

Murphy's Lab
is based around Tom Murphy

an amazing craftsman
who has mastered the art

of basically distressing
these guitars to make them look worn.

The way I describe it,
the Murphy Lab is a place

where the concept of adding age
to a guitar happens.

- Bro, this is amazing.
- Yes.

So, we all know
what that stands for, right?

That's a lotta rock and roll.

- A lot of years of rock and roll.
- A lot of years, bro.

It's not for everybody,
but it's for somebody.

I always just go back
to the blue-jean analogy.

It's just...
Can I just buy blue jeans

that feel like they're broken-in
and really soft?

When I was a kid

your mother had to wash
your Levi's many times

to even get close to feeling
like you want 'em to feel.

And actually back then,
when they got just right

is when they blew out

and you had to get new ones.

That was my offering to the consumer

that I could take
your historic instrument

and add the aging.

And of course,
it caught on, big time.

You know, I don't know
if you've heard about

where they actually,
like, smoked a... if that even works

but like to sit in there
with the paint basin...

Oh, I've heard of... Yeah.
So you take a guitar box, upside down

and light a carton of cigarettes.

That just bakes it in nicotine.

- We don't do that.
- Yeah.

- We have ways to make the...
- Yeah.

- lacquers... to make those colors.
- Right.

- But yeah, I mean.
- It's crazy when you see it.

I've had amps that the whole
grill cloth just turns brown.

I have aged so many guitars

based on a pattern
of a celebrity guitar

or a collector's guitar

so I've seen all sizes
of belt-buckle wear on the back

arm wear on the front,
dents, cigarette burns.

You know, a lot of the rock stars

don't play
their original guitars anymore.

I mean, 'cause now
there's so many alternatives.

We make guitars for rock stars

that they play in place
of their original instrument

that they don't have to take out
on the road anymore.

I mean, you're in to see it.
So we kept all this secret.

Like the... like, we didn't want
people to see how you do it.

So they were, like

- try to do it themselves.
- Yeah.

After a while I thought,
here, I'll show 'em.

- Yeah? I mean...
- Knock yourself out, you know.

That's what I love about it.
It's like showing the other artists.

Here you go. Knock yourself out.

Do take all this stuff
and do what I do.

That's how you age a guitar,
right there.

Most everybody who knows me

and knows about the aging knows
that I have a big ring of car keys

to create what would appear
to be natural dents and scratches.

And I used one belt buckle
many... years

until the actual cowboy,
and the horse

and the cow broke out of the buckle
from me pounding on it so much.

I'm taking this when I go
on eBay at some point.

We have to make it look realistic

and... and if it has a dent or a chip

it has to be in a place
where that would happen.

You can't just take a gouge on...

outta the front of a guitar
and make it look real.

This is a railroad spike

every guitar you see will have
something done with this.

Every single one of them.

That's a hinge pin of...
out of my pickup truck, rounded off.

And that... that makes
the little nick down there.

Every one of those is done with this.

And, like, you hit a mike stand
or something like that.

Right.

When people say I'm an artist

I... I never considered it art.

I didn't do it for art.

I think Mother Nature's
the real artist

when the combination
of the finishes on guitars

and the wood,
and the... the people playing it.

That... that's the art

and then recreating that is a...
is a craft.

Where we stain it, don't forget it.

Just being able to sit with him
and watch him paint

he's just such a veteran.

That was beautifully crafted there.
Yeah, definitely.

Well, Murphy, Murphy Lab.

He's studied so many
different types of guitars

through different players

and really gets to understand
the wear

that goes into these guitars.

- There you go.
- Yeah. Nice.

- What? You getting Mike's too.
- Hey.

Now, I'm gonna have Jason

put his initials
inside of the pickup cavities

that way, those initials
will be there forever.

- J. Momoa.
- Yeah.

Awesome.

Rock and roll.

I had one thing to do
before I left Gibson.


So I introduced two
of my good friends, Mike and Cesar.


This guy's like...
You take Fruscianti and Hendrix...

and did that.

This guy is...

I'm really, really excited
for you to see him.

I've always been proud of him.

- And it's just been a hard-a*s
- He doesn't know what he's saying.

- road for a long 15 years.
- Yeah, yeah.

This man right here.

- We want you to have this.
- Stock had this

- No.
- 1959 custom shop reissue.

Open up the case.

The case. Open the case.

One of you guys on the face.
Somebody gets on the face.

That's a beautiful guitar
right there.

Yeah.

Love you. Thank you.

Love you.

Why that's... that's the most
beautiful Gibson I've ever seen.

I appreciate this, man.
Thank you so much.

- My pleasure.
- Yeah.

He presented me with a '59 Les Paul

that was hand-touched by Tom Murphy.

It's the greatest guitar
that I've ever owned as far as...

I mean, it sounds...

It's the greatest sounding guitar
I've ever played, and...

yeah, he just gave it to me.

And it was just...

It was a... a big moment.

It was a big moment for me.

So, Jason's so free

and having him
as part of my family...

He... he always reminds me of that.

This world is not about material.

You know, everything's
gonna be okay, and... and let go.

This is the...
I am not playing well at all, guys.

I'm still... I'm just like this.
Sorry, guys.

I bet. We can see it
in your eyeballs.

You know...

I don't know, but I don't think

I've ever played a Les Paul
this good.

I don't know.

They don't need a man...

They don't need a man...

Look out, man!

- Love you.
- I love you.

- How are you?
- So you're live at the world.

- Hey bubbas, what's up?
- Come on down.

Come on down to BB King's,
Nashville, Tennessee.

- He's gonna do it.
- It's my first time.

Holy sh*t, man, there I am!

Wazzup, yo. Aquaman's here.

Look at it. There it is, ladies.

Bro...

you've been...

Where did you get that coat, man?

- Take a little spin, bro.
- I want that coat.

- Yeah.
- Damn.

- Mike Hayes, ladies and gentlemen!
- Mr. Hayes, man.

Michael Hayes, ladies and gentlemen.

Every time we get together,
I try to get everybody to see him

and everyone that sees him
is just blown away

'cause he's... he's just a...
he's a power house.

- Ready?
- Ready?

- The best performance I ever had.
- Oh, yeah.

All right, baby. Here we go.

What's up, everybody?

I'm not gonna lie to you.
I'm nervous.

It's gonna be
an amazing performance tonight.

It's a very... special night
for my best friend.

I haven't seen him in a long time.

He's the one that taught me
how to play guitar, you know.

Michael Hayes.

I just got a new guitar, folks.

How's it look? Okay?

It's something you have to feel.

You have to completely let go.

And everything that you've learned

you have to unlearn it
instantaneously.

You're trying to tap into
a different type of consciousness.

In that period of time

it coulda lasted
a half an hour for you

could have be in slow motion

but it's only like,
you know, a 45-second solo.

So that must be what it looks like
when I'm in a... in a trance

because an inner...
It's a form of meditation.

Hey, J, what are you
about to f*cking do?

Something stupid.
I'm gonna get on stage and play bass.

I'm absolutely terrified. Thank you.

That was a very memorable
experience for me, you know

to actually be playing with him,
like, making music.

What's amazing with J is that
he's such an artist with himself.

He does that same thing.

He just lets go

and he lets go of his own ego
when he is doing anything.

One more time when love

Comes over you

The student has passed the test.

This is the greatest guitar
I've ever had in my hands

ladies and gentlemen.

All right, home sweet home.

Let's do this.

Look at it! It looks good!

Hi there, love.

Yes.

Straight, man, all right?
I'mma get this right here.

Man, I love guitars.

Ready to have my mind blown.

Ready?

Not really, but yeah.

Let's do this. Hey, kids.

Talk about a dream come true.

We're finally getting a chance

to look at the guitars
that Murphy made.


Holy...

This is like Christmas for my dad.

I don't know what's in here.

Oh, holy sh*t.

Oh, boy!

Oh... man.

Oh, my god.

Murphy!

What the... Oh, there you go.
Appetite.

It's fine. It's just Appetite.

Oh, that's Jessica!

Boo-hoo me!

There it is, dude.
That's Slash's guitar.

- Oh, is that actually Slash's?
- Yep.

- He actually played it?
- This is... this is built off of...

- Did he actually play this?
- Bro!

No. Listen, they made
the exact replica of the...

So, like every dot is the same?

Look at that,
it says Jessica right there.

- Every mark?
- That's the exact replica of his.

It says "Slash Jessica."

There it is.

- Well done, bro.
- Cheers, mate.

- Take it easy. Be good.
- Thanks, thank you, mate.

It's been here good enough.
But here we go. We'll get it home.

Look at that.

All right, baby.

The Viper Room is hallowed ground
for rock and roll


so, we figured, what better place
to show Slash his new guitars.


Look at that.

That's pretty cool.

I decorate it myself, bro.

All right, this is
the moment of truth, yeah?

The moment of truth.

- Okay.
- I'm very excited for me.

All right.

This is awesome. This is...

- There we go.
- Okay.

After you, sir.

Drum roll, right?

So, there's Appetite, and it's...

Oh, it's nice and rich looking too.

It is, isn't it?

This is so rad.

He's got everything.
I mean, he's got the first '58.

He's got all types of guitars

but what could I do that would just
make it really, really personal

something from my heart,
something that I could say thank you

for everything that you've done
for my life

and be a part of creating this

and then also donate it to charity.

This is what I wanna do,
and this is what the show's about.

- We made one more
- I see.

and this one,
we're gonna auction off.

And then some lucky person
out there's gonna be able to...

- That's rad.
- Yeah.

Especially 'cause these are so rare.

This is really... cool.

Yeah, buddy. Yeah.

You gotta... What's... what's your...

What's the charity
that you might like to...

Well, I thought about it,
and I wanted to...

to do it for MusiCares

'cause it's a... a charity that...
that is near and dear to my heart.

Yeah. That's what they tell me.

They basically take a lot of...
care a lot of people

from all walks of life

but a lot of 'em, mental illness

- drug addiction, poverty.
- Yeah

A lot of other different issues
that befall us.

And most of them
are obviously musicians

- Yeah.
- as it's MusiCares

so I figured that would be
a good charity to do this.

- It's perfect, MusiCares.
- Yeah. Yeah.

I love it, man. And there it is.

I'm trying not to get
too attached to it.

- Yeah? So.
- I am... just blown away at this.

- It's not over, buddy.
- What else you got?

All right.

Oh, no way! sh*t!

Are you serious?
You didn't mention this.

Look at that.

- f*ck.
- Looks good, right?

- Jessica.
- Dude, this is like Christmas.

They really got the details.
This is insane.

We couldn't get
the cigarette burn quite right

'cause they didn't have
the toxicity levels

of what you... you were dealing with.

Sorry about that.
It wasn't perfect, but...

It's... close enough.

And hopefully I get
to see you on tour

- and watch you f*cking jam on these.
- Yeah, I know.

Honoring the people
who have inspired me

whether that be teacher,
whether that be mentor, idol...

someone that
you've always looked up to

it's a beautiful thing to just go

"Thank you for everything
that you do."

And that's a beautiful feeling.

Let us in, man.

We're in England.
We just landed from Majorca

and we're gonna go
see Slash right now.

Watch g*ns N' Roses.

- And I got a surprise for him.
- Uncle... Uncle Slash is so cool.

- Yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah.
- So cool.

- Yeah... yeah, we're done here.
- He's the coolest.

He's the king of cool.

My little brother, who has pretty
much lived across the street.

He... he kinda ratted me out

and said that I had
some g*ns N' Roses tapes

or something like that,
and so my mom listened to him

and she happened to put on,
like, the Patience album

Lies.

And then my mom was like

"What the hell is it
my son listening to?"

And I was in so much trouble.
She's like

"You can't have these back
till you're married, or you're bald

and you got kids."

And, still...

I ain't got the g*dd*mn tapes, Ma...

So, what I do is
my kids' first clothes

it's like "Forever Slash"

and, like, g*ns N' Roses
"Sweet Child O' Mine."

So all... I've all these baby clothes

I take pictures of for my mom.

It should be a fit.

Is it a fit? Tell us.

She's just, like, "Jason..."

And now, Slash and I are pals.

Just being able to go to the show

and then watch him play
one of the guitars that we made

and see him up on stage,
it was just, like... He loved 'em.

You know?
And that's a huge love and respect

to all the artisans who made it

and who were a part
of making Slash's guitar

like, really the hand quality
and the craftsmanship

for him to be like, "This is it,
this is going on the road with me.

This is gonna go on my album."

Like...

Done. Job done.

Such a full-circle moment
for me and my kids.


Music means so much to me.

It's history. It's human experience.

It's something that connects
each and every one of us.


It is everything.

Look at how tall they are.

I know, right?

- 'Cause there's an extra space...
- Just put "Lola," "Lola and Wolf"

and they'll be stoked.

- For the baby somewhere.
- Ah, you're a sweetheart.

Yeah, that's... I mean,
I don't have any guitars

that I dedicated my...
to my kids beforehand, so...

Look, "Lola and Wolf."

Oh, cool.

Now, another thing
for you guys to fight over.

- Right, well, so one of you...
- Lola doesn't even want this.

One of you does the fingering,
and the other one does the...

- Cut it in half. Stop it.
- You didn't want it.

[Thanks, man]

Thank you very much,
ladies and gentlemen. We love you.

I'm so proud of you tonight.
That was amazing!

So, he'd... he asked me how...
how he was. Bro...

Just ask the CEO of Gibson.
How was he?

I mean, you're leaving it all
on the stage.

- Absolutely.
- Yeah, I tried to.

It was all...
it was all on the stage.

You were all in.
You left it all there.

- Yeah.
- f*ck it. That was amazing.

Thank you.

He made me basically weep
at the custom shop

so I was thinking
to myself, you know, I'm...

I'mma get him back, you know?

You know, we've been doing,
talking about all the past

and all that kinda stuff,
bringing up stuff

and getting stuff together

and life is about letting go

and you're one of the people
in my life

that has helped me let go of a lot
of stuff that I needed to let go.

And so... And you've given me so much

and I wanna give
something back to you.

I don't really have anything
I could think of

but, there's something
I really want you to have.

Jesus Christ, right.

That's for you now, all right?

For you. I love you.

I love you.

Take it home. Bring it home.

Take it home.

- I love you.
- I love you.

Bro.

And I told my wife
I was gonna make him cry.

Oh, man, dude.

This is...

That's a holy grail piece,
and you're my... my teacher.

What a night. What a night, huh?

What a night.

I used this guitar
all around the world.

The neck was from my first guitar.

So when I got it,
I was about 13 years old.

I had a Mexican body.

I had these pickups from the '60s,
and it had magic to it.

It was beautiful when I got it

but it has been through
everything with me

so I got so... so torn up.

It was almost
at the point of unplayable.

But it was time, you know?

And J... that... that whole
experience with him coming down

and making me feel so good,
just like, you know

for my family, reminded me
that it's all right to let go

and I said, "I want you to have this

because this is everything that,"
you know...

"to me."

And I got him to cry,
just a little bit.

You made me cry.
It's how... it's how Oprah...

And you get a guitar and you...

You get a guitar...

That's the case. Put it there.

- Oh, man.
- Like that.

I mean that's...
I mean, you guys... you guys saw it.

That's the real deal.

That's... I mean,
I know the story of this guitar.

I know everything about it.
I know everything he went through.

I was there when you...
through all the tough times

all the good, I mean,
through all of them, man.

I left... I left his concert

a month before my son was born.

My wife's...
a day before my wife's birthday.

And I left his...
to go see him in Hollywood

and I went to a bar to celebrate

and this smash happened in my face

and I took a pint glass
to the face, you know...

He... You know,
I called him to the hospital

split my face open, a hundred
and forty stitches, changed my world.

I got it, and I'll be, like,
the famous one... one-eyed actor.

- Oh, yeah.
- It was like...

it was a millimeter away
from my eyeball.

Swole my whole face over.

And first audition back
was Game of Thrones.

- And I had a...
- Yeah, yeah.

I had a good scar
going through my face.

- Thanks, Mike Hayes.
- You got it, brother, anytime.

And then...
and then everything changed.

But, man, we've been through...

we've been through
the highs and lows, man.

- Through them together.
- And then get Kenny together

and all this together,
and you know...

- f*ck 'em.
- I'll always be able to...

Yeah.

Don't get better than that.