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01x04 - Heimweh

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "FC Bayern: Generation Wembley". Aired: October 20, 2023.*
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Tells the unbelievably heartrending but eventually heartwarming story of FC Bayern München and the road to glory in Wembley starting at the roots of the tale with the 2008/2009 season.

01x04 - Heimweh

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In 2012 the Champions League final
will be held in Munich, at the Allianz Arena.

And we have to be there!

I always sensed when
something special was coming,

and that is something special,

which you may never experience
in your life again, only once.

That's the day
when you have to be there.

We have the big opportunity

to be in the final,
and to play another Champions League final,

and at home in Munich to boot.

And you certainly noticed

that it's something very special.

You noticed it in the whole city.

For us it was clear from the beginning:

we want to lift the trophy at home,
at our own stadium in front of our fans.

It all started in the group stage,

with the tifo in the Arena:

“Those who want to go home
must start on their way.“

There you realised:

this whole feeling in the city
is different.

It's everything.

What's more, from the start it wasn't just about
winning the Champions League,

but about wanting to play
the final at home.

It was also the case

that the work of a whole season,
or rather the work

of several years was geared towards
this Champions League final.

There's this one dream.

Something that no other team
have achieved in the Champions League before,

namely playing in a final
at home at your own stadium!

Here you go.

CHAPTER 4
HOME SICKNESS

For the fans that was Real Madrid,
the great Real Madrid.

They were a top team at that time.

Cristiano! Sergio!

Were we favourites?
I dare to doubt it, against Real,

rather it was evenly matched,
if not Real were even slight favourites.

So you know it's going to be hard,
but you always believe.

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE SEMI-FINAL

If this was already 32 days later,
in exactly 32 days the Champions League final

takes place right here.

But first it's the semi-final.

They had a great team at that time,
with Ronaldo and all the other names.

Subtitle Extracted by: Aren Zohrabi

Karim Benzema said: it was
the best Real Madrid team he ever played in.

Yeah, yeah! The best team in Europe.

But the same way Barcelona was the best team
years before — we broke it.

And we broke it in an incredible way.

Players at the perfect age.

Cristiano, Benzema, Higuain,
Mesut, Xabi Alonso...

We were speaking about players
in a great moment of their careers.

Of course you know
you're up against strong guys.

But it's not like you have fear.

And at that time we had
no fear, either.

And when the draws came along,
they didn't want Bayern Munich

because they always had
immense respect for our mentality.

That is: never giving up.

It was one of those games
where every spectator

knew from the first second
to the last

that he can now personally contribute

to this dream becoming reality.

That this “Finale dahoam“ [“final at home“]

can really be called "Finale dahoam“.

You also felt it from outside,

how the fans were just up for it.

I think we were ready,

we were ready for the fight,

and we were ready
to play at that level.

They were always tough games
against Real Madrid,

a lot of great players on the pitch.

There were chances on both sides.

It was very, very intense.

I think you also saw

in this game
how much we wanted it.

In 2012, for me
Bayern was a team

with a little bit more flair,
with a little bit more freedom

and with a little bit more dynamism.

That team was a little bit more
unpredictable than the previous one.

Not bad.

Ribéry! 1-0! 1-0!

The celebrations with the players,

with the fans.

That was an awesome moment.

The ball bounces off me,

Franck takes it directly. 1-0.

The place erupts.

Something else I'll never forget:
the atmosphere in the stadium,

it was unbelievable.

Then, shortly before half-time,
there was a free kick.

Yes, I can remember that well.

We're into the last minute
of the first half.

I think there was a free kick
just before half-time, and I think

Franck wanted to take it.

Free kick from the right side,

Jupp said: Franck and Toni
from the right,

and Arjen and David take from
the left side.

He wanted to take it or something,
and actually it wasn't on my side either.

It wasn't so much that I

wanted to take it.

But yes, I was interested

and I interfered.

Then Arjen joined in, I think,

and said to Toni
that he should take it.

And then Arjen came

and said to me:
“You shouldn't take.

Let Toni Kroos take.“

I said, "Let Toni take",
or something like that.

And there he was... It was something like that.

And then...

Obviously they're also both
emotional characters,

and they had a bit of an
argument with each other.

And then Toni took it.

Whatever! I think that was kind of
the background, what it was about.

Then the ominous half-time.

Yes, there was a bit of anger
in the dressing room.

Yes,

we weren't too happy
with each other there.

I'm not sure how openly we can
communicate here.

Can we tell that?

Half-time. We go down the tunnel,
into the dressing room.

And I see Franck at the front
just swearing in French.

I think he reeled off
every swear word.

You're leading against Real Madrid,

and at half-time suddenly

emotions are boiling over.

I just tied my boots,

looked at the floor, recovered.

I didn't know at the time
what was really going on.

We had a bit of an argument, but...

Franck wasn't too pleased.

Then there's an argument
and sometimes it snaps.

Then it goes off.

Without warning.

There wasn't much really
discussed or spoken about.

You can't influence it
that much anymore.

When two grown men

have differing opinions

and are emotionally heated up.

Everyone was shouting, Philipp
then came and said: "This can't be happening!"

Naturally I was hopping mad.

I'm captain of the team,

and it would've been bad
if I as captain had said nothing at half-time.

I look to my right and then
I see Gianni,

one of our physios,

putting ice on Arjen's eye.

Yes, everyone saw it,

that's no secret.

Then at some point, Markus Hörwick came

to us in the stands —
and he was always down below,

he never came up to us — and says:
"Can I have a quick word?"

And then I say: "Yes, what is it?“
And he says:

“Unfortunately there's been
an incident in the dressing room."

I said:
"We can't change that now,

we'll have to deal with it
after the match."

That there are discussions at half-time,

and that you also sometimes yell at each other,
that can happen.

But when you have a common goal

and that's knocking out Real Madrid
in the semi-finals,

then it's obviously a hindrance
when it becomes more than a discussion,

and fisticuffs come into it.

That's not only not okay in football,
but not okay in general.

Crazy what happened.

They've told you before, right?

You have to carry on, a whole half.

We both continued playing.

It continued,
we then conceded a stupid goal.

He chipped it over, or something?

It was then 1-1, but okay.

But we knew that we somehow
still had them under control.

It didn't feel like
the Champions League,

not in terms of the quality
of football,

but in terms of the fight.

It was like a local village derby.

Everyone wants to somehow
scratch the other's face

with the heel.

It was...

Both really had the bit
between their teeth.

We stick at it.

Okay, we have the objective.

It's 2012.

We keep going.

But then Bayern really,

in a kind of “softly, softly, Hörwick monkey"
way, created one chance after the other.

That's also Mario Gómez.

Lots of situations
where people say:

"My, you can't miss that!“

Then, the 92nd minute...

Two and a half minutes left.
Real running down the clock.

From the first to the last minute

we really battled.

Believed.

Lahm.

I think that's also something
that you pick up on at FC Bayern.

That you believe you can
win the game until the end.

Against Coentrão, nice!

I do everything so that
my club win.

Philipp Lahm!

At that time
I went onto the pitch

and I knew,
I'm going to score today.

And now it's in!

Mario Gómez gets his goal, in the last minute.

Philipp crosses,

I slide in and then, I think
I push the ball over the line with my knee.

Well, now it looks different again!

So thankfully we made it 2-1,

shortly before the end.
That was also important.

The dream of the final lives on!

“And we have to be there!“ Quote:

Uli Hoeneß.

Then, practically with
the final whistle,

we won 2-1
and the atmosphere was actually good.

U" and I were always
in the dressing room after the game,

we wanted to congratulate the team
but then noticed:

the atmosphere is a bit strange here.

And then I asked:
“Where is Arjen, in fact?“

They said he's over
in the doping control room.

Then I went to Arjen and he
described his version of events to me.

And then I said:

"Arjen, we'll meet tomorrow morning at 10
at Säbener Street."

We had a meeting
the next morning.

Present: Ribéry and Robben.

And on the way there I

phoned Franck
and said to him: "I'll tell you one thing:

If you don't apologise today,
you'll be in big trouble with me,

big trouble.“

We then sat in the boardroom.

And Franck:

“Yes, Arjen, I'm terribly sorry."
And so on and so forth.

And then we discussed

and decided that Franck
would get a heavy fine.

Yes, we then patched up
the matter to some extent

and Franck left a bit earlier
for home or for training.

Arjen was still there.

I got the impression
that Arjen wasn't

very convinced.

He said to us:

"One thing is clear:
I'm never playing in a team with him again."

When you ask me that question

one day after the match,
I was still a bit...

In terms of the emotions,
I probably wasn't that happy with him.

Then I said: “Now I'll tell you one thing:
we stay sitting here until you take that back.“

Then we had a game at Bremen.

And obviously it was incredibly important for us
to calm the whole situation down.

I then got the team together

to explain that and what the current state is,

and that it should never happen again.

We spoke a lot with each other.

Franck and I were very good with each other.

Sure, there were always
people who said

that we didn't always get on well.
We did, though.

When I'm on the pitch

without Robben,

that's bad.

Well, on the pitch

we got on really well.

Off the pitch, too, we got on really well.

Now your declaration of love?

Yes, I love him too, of course.

But we're also both

emotional characters,
and we just clashed once in the dressing room.

At the start Arjen and I were good together,

good teammates,

but after that
we became real brothers.

You don't need to tell any player at that level
that the second leg's going to be a solo effort,

when you've won the first leg 2-1.

Especially when you're playing
at the Bernabéu against Real Madrid.

The Bernabéu is certainly a magical stadium,
I must say,

because you just feel
when you come in,

history has been made there,
there's a certain kind of magic.

Now you can say
about the Santiago Bernabéu:

obviously the fans aren't like
at Celtic or at Old Trafford,

who are always the loudest,
but against us they always turned up.

One step to go

and then FC Bayern
are in their final,

in their home.

There was real fire in it.

You certainly felt it.

Bayern line up
exactly how they started in Munich.

We said before,
the entire back four

are on yellow cards,
but that can't be a topic.

The atmosphere was fired up.

It's not that easy to play there,
it has to be said.

Real really went for it
in the early stages.

It felt like
U9s playing against pros.

It was extreme.

Xabi Alonso was pinging the ba*ls
diagonally to Ronaldo and Di Maria.

I thought:

“Wow, here we go!"

Di Maria,

Handball or not?
Alaba.

Well yes,

the ball hits me on the hand.

I slip

and obviously prop myself up.

A normal reflex.

I think the ball would've gone anywhere.

In my opinion, David can do
very little about that.

He's even sliding away a bit.
The hand is down on the ground.

No idea. I didn't understand
why the referee pointed to the spot.

It starts
how it wasn't meant to start.

Was bitter, was bitter.

It wasn't a deliberate handball and

I'm not sure you have to give it.

But it was so.

What will the great Ronaldo do?

Cristiano tricked me.

Yes, then it was already looking
bad for us at the Bernabéu.

Bayern just need to get over
this now.

They have to get into this game
for a start.

Plus a yellow for Alaba.

That means he's out of the potential final.

I knew straight away, yes.

As soon as he shows me the yellow card,

a world probably collapsed somewhere
inside me.

You could see how upset
he was about it.

The penalty is one thing,

but as a player you can often
put that behind you quickly.

But a yellow card like that,

and you know, if we get to the final,
I'm suspended.

That's obviously tough,

most of all for the player
but also for the team.

But at the same time, I can still remember
saying to myself:

"Okay, David, you can't help the team
in the potential final.

Make this game your final now."

Alaba,

Alaba.

Wonderful play from Alaba!

Brilliant from Alaba. Robben!

He misses it again, like in Dortmund!

Jupp Heynckes
said before the game:

"We have to manage one thing,
and that's survive the first 10 minutes.

It's hell.
In the first 10 minutes they'll overrun us."

This has to be the end of it now!
Not like that, you can't play like that!

After 10 [ed. 14] minutes it was
2-0 to Real Madrid.

You can't play like that,
otherwise you'll go down here.

The Bernabéu went crazy,
you could only see the white flags.

You were stunned
in the first 10 minutes

and could've also cried.

It then wasn't so easy
to carry on playing because

in theory there are
teams who would then,

especially against Real Madrid
for example, roll over.

But even in that moment,
I have to say,

the team stayed completely calm.

The way the second leg started,
in the eyes of inexperienced people,

it would be job done.

For me it was never job done.

Because one goal would put everything in place.

The way we performed as a team,
as we did the whole year,

we formed a spirit, a team spirit
but also a character within the team.

Luckily they went so fast,
with the crowd too,

that they then
had a break in the game.

And we came back with the penalty,

which I won.

It was clear

that Arjen was taking it.

That also shows his confidence.

Arjen had the experience,
and he also played at the Bernabéu himself.

When you take,
you take responsibility and

you have to handle that.

Above all, it's a mental thing.

That also characterises him,
having that courage,

especially after the penalty
he missed against Dortmund,

to then take that penalty kick,
that's Arjen Robben.

And with that
the game was reset to zero.

In 2010 I was feeling

we are unbeatable.

In that semi-final

I was feeling exactly the opposite.

Arjen scored the penalty,
and then

it was a game of fears.

A bit of feeling out,

not too much risk,
and then it went to extra time.

And that's when it starts to
take it out of you.

The game was very open.
Overall it went back and forth.

It wasn't like one team
completely parked the bus.

It was exhausting.

Then I got my stupidest
yellow card.

It was a yellow card,
there were a lot of fouls.

It wasn't actually that yellow card
that bothered me.

The card in the first leg bothered me

because for me it wasn't a yellow card.

And then the yellow card came
in the 105th minute,

and I knew at that moment:

“sh*t, we're going to the final."
I felt that.

“But I won't be there!“

Luiz Gustavo was then also shown
a yellow card.

You knew already,

okay, if we win here, these guys
won't be involved in the final.

That made them work even harder
because they knew that

it's their last Champions League game
of the season.

I was waiting

for the extra time to be more aggressive.

But then extra time didn't bring much

and we go to penalties.

I was fired up.

I was determined to win
this penalty shootout for us.

I came forward straight after full time

to take the first one.

Yeah, I'd said

to myself an hour earlier:

"I want to make this game
my final and

make this day special for me personally too.“

David Alaba, the 19-year-old.

Brutal. Honestly, I thought I was
walking from Madrid to Vienna.

I still remember:
I then made the long walk,

the whole stadium whistled,
then Iker Casillas is standing in front of you.

When you place the ball down,
you're in a tunnel.

You have the ball in front of you,

the goalkeeper and the goal,
and then you just wait,

look at the referee before,

for him to blow,

and then: BOOM!

Yes!

I was really relieved afterwards.

He can do no more.

He won't get to be there.

Penalties has to do with talent.

Penalties has to do with the mental approach,
with the mental strength.

But as a coach, what can a coach
do better than say:

“Cristiano, you take the first,

and Kaká, you take the second.“

Especially when you play or compete
against such players —

Cristiano Ronaldo, Kaká, Sergio Ramos —
whoever it is,

whatever names I list,

you never know what they'll do.

He's actually someone
who likes to sh**t firmly,

likes to hit it,
and that was the corner he'd gone for.

So I thought:
"He's not going to put it

in the other corner now, he'll stick with it.“

And I also stuck with it.

Ronaldo versus Neuer, round two.

Neuer! Neuer saves it!

Was unreal.
It was really unreal!

And luckily I managed

to remain clear, not slip up.

The danger with me was
that I have a high centre of gravity.

In that moment I remained
super clear.

You also analysed the previous penalties,
looked at how he's converted

in high-profile games in pressure situations
or how he's acted.

Come on, man! Come on, hey!

It just comes out from within and
at the time I just

got caught up in it,
and had that outburst of emotion.

Kaká. Neuer!

Manuel Neuer!

Cristiano and Kaká were two of
the best penalty takers of the last decade.

And they both missed.

It was unbelievable.

What is happening? Somebody please pinch me.

And then, yes, I got the very clear
pinch pretty quickly.

Casillas saves his first penalty.

Ronaldo and Kaká didn't score. He scores.

Then it was me.

I also thought,
it's going well...

Of course I'll take a penalty,

I have no problem with that
and see it as my job.

I had a good idea there.

In hindsight I'd still say
it was a good idea.

I knew that Casillas dives fairly early,

and had the idea of sh**ting
high down the middle.

Oh, that was badly hit,
that was badly hit!

All open again.

We had it all in our hands,

but then Toni also misses. And then
I thought to myself: this can't be, so...

Then up steps Sergio Ramos.

Ramos hesitates. Over! Over!

That will come back down somewhere
in Madrid city centre.

Honestly,

when I get into this one, I thought:
"Come on,

I'm going to win this one.“

Cristiano scores, Kaká scores,

Sergio Ramos scores

and Xabi Alonso scores.
Probably we get into the fifth

and the fifth maybe doesn't even take it.

Maybe we are going to win it
because these four

are going to score for sure.

I was wrong.

And then up steps Bastian Schweinsteiger.

This “Finale dahoam" is a one-off

in your football career.

Everyone knew
what the target for the season was.

As Uli Hoeneß said:

"In May the Champions League final is taking
place in Munich, and we have to be there.“

And when you think about it:

Lahm comes from here, Schweinsteiger
comes from here, Müller comes from here.

They're all boys
from this city.

Getting to experience that
in your home city,

representing your home city there.

You see 95 percent

just white shirts in the background.

And...

And I was really...

I have trust,
and particularly with Basti that's

a basic trust that I have in him
because I know he's just got it.

I knew: if I do this,
we're in the final in Munich.

If he scores,

Bayern will be in the final on 19th May
in Munich against Chelsea FC.

Schweini,

go!

Schweinsteiger, Schweinsteiger!

FC Bayern are in the final
of the UEFA Champions League.

Hasta la vista, Bayern finalista!

It was an incredible feeling
that we managed it,

to get to our own stadium.

Basti scores the goal,
and our fans were up in the corner,

and you run there from the halfway line.

You said it was the first and only time

that you cried after a game.

Yeah, I did,

of course not on the pitch
or in the dressing room,

but driving home, yes.

And when I'm going home already down,

I get a call from Jorge Mendes:

“Do me a favour: go to Cristiano's house
because he's dead.“

I told him: “I'm also dead."

But I did it, so...

Prepare yourself, no tears and
let's go to Cristiano's house.

He was exactly the way I was:
we were destroyed.

It was just crazy for us.

We get through against
the most awesome team

and are then in the final.

And then the ball just went in.

At first I totally missed Manu,
to celebrate with him,

I didn't care that he
ran past me and

showed his beautiful pale body.

It was just important
that we'd sealed the thing.

Yes, on the way there
I briefly lost my ba*ls,

but then I found them again
just in time for the run-up, I must say.

You have to traipse 50 metres there.

Normally you have to sprint,
that would've actually been better.

Can there be a nicer moment
than this right now?

No, no.

We're all gone.

I also don't know

how I managed 120 minutes,
but we're over the moon.

And the way it came about,

we'll never forget this day.

What does this mean for you?

Everything!

That was certainly one of
the great moments of my career.

We're in the final, and we're in
the final in my home city.

That was certainly...

That was certainly a special touch!

To be honest, I had the feeling
on that night

that fate was on Bayern's side,

because the 2010/11 season
and the 2011/12 season

were black and yellow domestically.

We won the league,

but we hadn't

won the cup
for a relatively long time.

So, we were obviously confident.

I wouldn't say
Bayern now had fear.

They're too commanding for that.

But I certainly think
they had respect

because they had a huge amount to lose.

Dear spectators at the Berliner Olympiastadion,

DFB CUP FINAL

here come Borussia Dortmund
and FC Bayern Munich.

Bayern still had this difficult situation
that their absolute highlight

was actually a week later,
namely the Champions League final.

That made it much tougher for them
in terms of focusing,

it must be said.

An aimless ball from Gustavo.

We started brilliantly
with the goal from Shin ji.

Third minute, I believe.

We come back through a penalty.

Because of the fact
that Arjen is a very strong character,

it was understandable
that he went up against me again.

He shot into his favourite corner.

I thought he would
change his mind again.

I was wrong this time
and he won.

Well, I missed against Dortmund,

and then I scored in the cup final
and I scored in the

Champions League semi-final
against Madrid.

So, yes...

It was a very even game
in the first half.

In fact, in spells Bayern were probably
better and more dominant,

and then Mats scores the penalty.

I could've saved that, in my opinion.

But these are situations

that just happen,
especially in the cup and cup final.

It's about form on the day.

We make it 3-1 shortly before
half-time through Lewy,

who for us in that period
was an absolute game changer.

Dortmund are picking them apart on the counter.

You know that Bayern
have a lot of quality

and they then fought back.

But then it's 4-1.

And then 4-2..

Arjen gave me a pass
on the right side.

Then I do what I can.

Then there were a few situations
where it could've become 4-3.

So, it was a game
on a knife edge.

There were certainly moments in the game

where you felt: we're actually better
and we can turn the game around.

But we always made a mistake
at the wrong time.

Lewandowski, now it's getting awful.

They defeated us in a fashion.

Robert Lewandowski: three goals!

There...

They really showed us up, in a way.

Yes, they were bitter, disappointed,
maybe even a bit insulted,

because you don't like losing a final.

I don't think we played
that badly.

I mean, Dortmund just played well
and ruthlessly capitalised on our mistakes,

and that's how you get
the high scoreline of 5-2.

We did sugarcoat it a bit
because we said:

The German championship went to Dortmund,
the DFB Cup went to Dortmund.

But we always said:

“We're in the Champions League final at home."

We previously lost that penalty shootout
in 2010, in Basel...

Hold on...

Bayern versus Basel?

Yes.

And what has (tech got to do with that?

Well now I can say it...