02x31 - Cross Country Rescue and Wedding Debt Denied

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He said, "Dad, I have no place to go."

He fed you, he kept a roof over your head.

- And you weren't working?
- Yes, ma'am.

- And the girlfriend wasn't working?
- Yes, ma'am.

I'm quickly losing patience
with two ingrates.

[narrator]
This is Judy Justice.

[theme music playing]

[narrator] Nineteen-year-old Kaia Eliasoff
and Brandon Blanchard

are suing Brandon's father,
William Blanchard,

for unpaid wages, property damage,
and stolen belongings.

[Kevin]
Court come to order. All rise.

Have a seat, everyone.

Hello, Judge. Case #2028,
Eliasoff/Blanchard versus Blanchard.

- [Judy] Thank you, Kevin.
- [Kevin] You're welcome.

- [Judy] Eliasoff?
- Yes, ma'am.

[Judy]
That's you. How old are you?

Nineteen, almost twenty.

- Nineteen.
- [Kaia] Yes, ma'am.

[Judy]
What do you do?

- I am a server.
- Since when?

- As of June of this year.
- [Judy] This is your boyfriend?

- Uh, fiancée, yes, ma'am.
- Yes.

Fiancée. And how long
has he been your fiancée?

[Kaia]
Uh, for over a year.

[Judy]
What does he do for a living?

He is currently unemployed.

When was the last time he had a job?

That was about a year ago.

What kind of work did he do a year ago?

Warehouse work.

Is there any reason that
he hasn't worked in a year?

He has, uh, concussions
and back injuries and...

- From what?
- [Kaia] From car accidents.

Does he currently have any lawsuits
pending with regard to those accidents?

No, ma'am.

So, the accidents were your fault?

No, they were the other people's faults.

- The other people had no...
- [Brandon] Sorry.

The other person didn't
have insurance at the time.

So, later on, he ended up stating
that he did have insurance

and got out of the ticket.

Do you see a doctor regularly?

Not anymore, no.

I used to, though,
until I ran out of my insurance,

for health insurance,

and then the bill
just kept stacking up on me.

- At that time, did you have an attorney?
- No, Your Honor.

Did you ever have an attorney
with regard...

Did you ever consult an attorney
with regard to these accidents?

- No.
- [Judy] No. Okay, fine.

Is there any reason
why you're not working?

Yes, ma'am. I have bad back problems
that I've had for quite some time.

I have four discs out of my lower back.

Um, I also have knee injuries,
shoulder injuries.

I was, uh, pushing my body
more than I should've been.

I was over 300 pounds working in
a heated environment, working every day.

And I dropped all the weight,
and then, I ended up

hurting myself even further from there.

And then, my doctor told me
not to do anything over 20 pounds.

So, I went against her rules
and I did it anyways,

and I kept injuring myself.

What kind of work does your father do?

[Brandon] He works as a U-Haul business
associate and a mechanic, as well.

[Judy]
When did you live with your father?

I lived with my father in January,
I believe it was 8th...

January of what year?

[Brandon]
Of 2021... 2022, sorry.

After you have been disabled all this time
because of all the heavy work.

Yes.

Let me give a general outline
of what this case is about.

Yes, ma'am.

You and your fiancée were living where?

We were living with my father.

No, before you lived with your father.

- My father.
- Her father.

- [Judy] In what state?
- Wyoming.

There come a time when your father
either said it's enough,

or you decided that you were
no longer happy in Wyoming?

It was a conflict with his girlfriend
that came about.

If it was a conflict with his girlfriend,
your father told you to skedaddle.

- Yeah.
- Yes, ma'am.

[Judy]
And you called your father?

- No, I didn't call my father.
- [Judy] Who did?

- My father called me.
- [Judy] You mean, just out of the blue?

Yeah, he does it at random,
every once in awhile.

No, no. He just called you
at about the same time

that your fiancée's father
told you to get out?

Yes. Is what I believe, anyways.
I've had a few concussions, Your Honor,

and I don't remember a lot.

Okay, we're gonna get there.
In any event,

you had a discussion with your father
that you didn't have a place to live.

You didn't have a job,
she didn't have a job, you had no money.

Her father was kicking you
out of the house.

And he drove cross country to get you.

- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] In what month?

Uh, it was in January.

- January of 2022.
- [Brandon] Yes, ma'am.

How many miles did he drive
to come and get you?

- I think a thousand miles, maybe.
- [Judy] Each way?

Each way, probably about 2,000, total,
something like that.

Okay. So, he drove 2,000 miles
to come and get you.

Yes, ma'am.

- Then he brought you back to his house.
- Yes, ma'am.

- [Judy] And you weren't working?
- Yes, ma'am.

- And the girlfriend wasn't working?
- Yes, ma'am.

So, if you weren't working,
the girlfriend wasn't working,

you had no money, so your father
was taking care of your expenses.

- Yes, ma'am.
- Okay, good. And now you're suing him.

And you're suing him for a host of things,

which I'm gonna give you
a relatively short time to tell me about.

But one of the things that your
girlfriend, excuse me, fiancée says,

is that your father owes you for wages
because you worked for him.

- [Brandon] Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] Doing what?

I was doing U-Haul work, basically...

[Judy]
What is U-Haul work?

Oh, sorry, I'll explain. Sorry, ma'am.
Basically, what we do...

I don't want to hear basically,

I want to hear what you were doing.

I would hook-up U-Hauls.

I would also clean
and inspect all the vehicles...

[Judy] Just a second.
Hook-up the U-Hauls...

- Hook up the U-Hauls.
- [Judy] Clean and inspect them.

Clean and inspect them.

What does it involve in cleaning them?

- Uh, basically spraying down...
- [Judy] Not basically.

Sorry, ma'am, sorry.
We spray down all the...

[Judy]
Not "we," you.

Yeah, sorry. I spray down every single
surface of the innards of the vehicle.

Basically, the steering wheel,
the floor grates, the radio, everything.

And when you hook them up,
explain how you hook something up.

How I have to hook something up
is backing up, lining up with...

- So, you'd have to drive.
- Yes, ma'am.

[Judy] And you're driving a car
and backing up.

- Yes, ma'am. And then...
- So, you're using a rear-view mirror...

- [Brandon] Yes.
- And yourself.

You're looking to see where you're
backing up because you have to use both.

- Yes, ma'am.
- What else did you do for your father?

I also did paperwork for him,

doing, like, inventory, stocks,
and stuff like that.

- Terrific.
- Basically...

Not basically, I don't want to hear
basically. Basically is a filler word.

Sorry, ma'am.

What else was I doing?
I would sweep, clean up his shop.

I basic... I would do a lot of things.

All while you were
unable to do anything else?

[Brandon]
Yes, ma'am.

- I was, uh...
- [Judy] Just a second. All...

After your back issues,
after your concussions,

after whatever other injuries that
you had from working someplace...

By the way, you don't have a lawsuit
pending against anybody, do you?

No, ma'am.

[Judy]
So, it's just a question of kvetching.

Other than maybe trying to collect
a disability somewhere along the line

from the federal government,
you were able to hook-up U-Hauls...

[Brandon]
Mm-hmm.

...clean them and sanitize them,
sweep out the premises,

- do paperwork,
- Mm-hmm.

but you can't work? I mean,
because part of this lawsuit

is about all this work that you did,
but all while you're telling me

that you're unemployable
because of all the injuries that you had.

- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy scoffs]

You understand how ridiculous
that sounds to me.

I only had one other case
in my recent memory

that sounded anywhere familiar
to this story,

and that was a man that was
also receiving disability

because he had a bad back.
He was the plaintiff in a lawsuit,

suing someone because he had built them
an outdoor patio deck, alone.

Alone. And he wasn't paid
the $6,000 for it.

But he had been collecting disability
for a back ailment for 31 years

from the federal government.
That sound odd to you?

Yeah.

Well, doesn't it sound odd to you that
you're able to put hook-ups together

and sweep and everything else,
but you can't say,

do you want a hamburger
with your fries or fries with a burger?

- Yes, ma'am.
- That sound peculiar to you?

Right. So, I don't want to hear
about work.

Okay, that's the first thing.

And you lived in your father's house
for how long, by the way?

I think we only lived there
for the first month.

And then, we ended up getting
moved out to a camper for like,

the last bit of the, I think,
two months that we were there.

I don't know what you're suing for.
You want to tell me?

I don't want to see any pictures.
Of what, of the truck?

Of the parts that were missing.

I don't care. I don't care.
After two weeks, he can burn that truck.

It's on his property
without his permission. Let's go.

That, you said perfectly.
I would ask her for $50 or $100

and she would lend me that. Those are...
Is that the word she used?

"She would lend me
money and vice versa."

[Judy]
Thank you.

[theme music playing]

[narrator] Nineteen-year-old Kaia Eliasoff
and Brandon Blanchard

claim Brandon's father, William Blanchard,
owes for unpaid wages and stolen property.

William is countersuing for
moving expenses and property damage.

Now, I'm not entertaining your wages
'cause you can't work.

That's what he just swore to,
he can't work.

That's why he's unemployed.
He has four disc problems,

I think he said four, whatever.
He can't work.

Forget him now, I want you to tell me
what you're suing this man

who drove 2,000 miles to rescue you
after your father threw you out.

Why don't you tell me
what you think he owes you for.

For the stolen property of my vehicle.

What stolen property of your vehicle?

He stole my toolbox with the key with it
and also parts that went to my vehicle.

- [Judy] Did you take her toolbox?
- No, ma'am, I did not.

Next! What's next?

- Whenever I confronted him about it...
- [Judy] About what?

About the toolbox
when we went to go get my truck,

then he would say what he just said,
that he never took it.

But when I asked him
where did the key go for it,

he denied,
he would just ignore that fact.

It's not a fact. It's not a fact unless
you can prove that he took your property.

You said he just said to you,
"I don't have your toolbox."

But my vehicle was on his property,
in his possession.

And that's what you have, your
vehicle, while you were living there,

- was on his property...
- Mm-hmm.

and therefore, he's responsible
for the toolbox?

When he kicked us out and then
told us to come back for the truck,

he was gonna give us two weeks
to have it towed.

'Cause the truck wasn't working,

but he let the truck stay on his property
for two weeks.

- Yes.
- What else are you suing him for?

Just for the repairs on the vehicle.

[Judy]
On what vehicle?

On my truck that... Whenever I went
to go get the truck off his property

after that two weeks,
that's when the toolbox was missing

and I also looked under the hood
and there was wires hanging out.

And those wires,
I do have pictures. And...

Just a second.
Let me ask you this question:

- You said... Hey!
- Yes, ma'am.

[Judy] You said he gave you two weeks
to come and get your truck

- off his property.
- Mm-hmm.

The truck was inoperable
when you left it on his property.

[Kaia]
Mm-hmm.

- [Judy] It wasn't running.
- No, ma'am.

That's right. But you did not come
to get it off his property in two weeks.

You came after the two weeks.

Yes, ma'am.

[Judy]
How much after the two weeks?

I think just like a couple days after.

We came back on April 23rd
and we left the property April 6th.

- It was after the two weeks.
- [Kaia] Yes, ma'am.

- [Judy] Anything else?
- Yes, Your Honor.

Well, let's get there fast

because I'm quickly
losing patience with two ingrates.

Here's the pictures.

I don't want to see any pictures.
Of what, of the truck?

- Of the parts that were missing, and...
- [Judy] I don't care.

After two weeks, he can burn that truck.

It's on his property
without his permission. Let's go.

Move on. Your father came 2,000 miles
to get you. He fed you for a month.

He kept a roof over your head for a month.

In return, you're suing him for nonsense.

- Let us move on.
- Yes, Your Honor.

- [Judy] Anything else?
- No, Your Honor.

- Very good, okay. Now, Mr. Blanchard.
- [William] Yes, ma'am.

You have a countersuit that, actually,
you wouldn't have brought now

because you didn't have an agreement
with your son and his fiancée

when you went to get him.
How many children do you have?

Eight altogether.

Prior to going to get him cross-country,
when had you seen him?

Been several years.

Tell me about the conversation
when he contacted you.

He said, Dad, I have no place to go.
We can try to stay with her grandmother.

I offered, said, "I'll come get you
if you have no place to go."

And then?

I went in a week.
I dropped everything to go get him.

Now, when your son and his fiancée
came to you, sir,

did you put him to work in your business?

Yes, ma'am.

[Judy]
And how long was he in your business?

Altogether, maybe, less than 90 days.

[Judy] Did he work in your business
after they moved out of your house?

He says they only lived in your house
for 30 days.

They were in the house 45 days,

and then they were, lived,
another 45 days inside of a camper.

Can you tell me why
they moved into a camper?

There was a chance of my daughter
coming home,

and they were living in her room
at the time.

And so, I wanted to make sure
they still had something,

so I put them into a camper.

- A camper on your property.
- [William] Yes, Your Honor.

What kind of camper?

A small camper. It had power.

So they used the inside of the house
to shower and stuff.

Yes, Your Honor.

- But they slept in the camper.
- Yes, Your Honor.

- [Judy] All true?
- [both] Yes, ma'am.

And he paid for the camper, he paid
for the electricity, water, etcetera.

And she wasn't working.
Did he also pay for the food?

Did you eat in the house
or did you eat in the camper?

Uh, no, ma'am,
we were getting food stamps.

So we paid for our own food.

And we also helped them
with their food, as well.

[Judy]
Why were you getting food stamps?

Uh, for the short bit of time because
he recommended to get on food stamps.

Had you been on food stamps
when you lived in Wyoming?

No, ma'am.

[Judy]
How did you support yourself there?

- [Kaia] I was working at the time.
- And what about him?

A driving company. Basically, we go
around, pick up food from places and...

- [Judy] So, you were able to drive? Oh.
- Yes.

- For only a little bit.
- With all those injuries. Amazing.

Okay. I would like you to testify, sir,

now to the conversation
that you had with your son

with regard to compensation
for coming to pick him up in Wyoming.

Be very careful what you say to me.

I told my son before I picked him up,

I said, you need to pay me back
for this trip.

[Judy] Did you tell him
what for the trip? I mean...

Yes, for all expenses.
All expenses for the trip.

- For the expenses?
- [William] Yes, Your Honor.

How was he supposed to do that,
he wasn't working.

He was supposed to get a night-time job
on top of working

and helping me out around my shop.

- Did he help you around your shop?
- He did.

You said about 90 days.

- [Judy] Did you pay him?
- No, Your Honor.

Well, if he worked for you for 90 days
and you didn't pay him at all,

and it cost you a couple of thousand
dollars, according to you...

Yes, Your Honor.

...to go out and get him, hire trucks,
spend time back, whatever it was.

And he worked for you for 90 days
without compensation.

Why do you think he did that?

I was hoping just because
that's what he really wanted to do.

[Judy] No good deed goes unpunished.
You went and you got him,

and now they're suing you,
but their case is dismissed.

They have no case against you.

It's all a bunch of nonsense
and ridiculous.

But likewise, sir, your counterclaim
is for the expenses that you incurred

in going to pick them up.

I don't actually think
that there was an agreement

to pay you back for your expenses.

But even if there was an agreement
to pay you back for your expenses,

the fact that he worked for 90 days
without any compensation,

I think more than
compensates you for that.

As a result of that, your counterclaim
as well is dismissed. We're finished here.

[Kevin]
This court is adjourned.

You try to do your best for your kids
whenever you can.

And this is no different.

It's been very difficult growing up.

I hope he gets his life together.

I don't want anything to do with him.

I'll always be there for him.

It's time to cut the strings.
I'm done with him.

That young man sounded
as if he was intelligent.

That doesn't mean he was smart,
that means he was intelligent.

Because at age 19 or 20,
to have already figured out

that you can't work
'cause you have a bad back,

unless you really have to work.

If you have to work, then
you can work for your father...

That's a bad mindset
for a very young person.

It means that your life
is really going nowhere,

you're not preparing yourself
to do anything.

And to take it a step further, and to sue
the only person that was there for you,

in a time when you needed them.

No good deed goes unpunished.

Case #2059, Dobson
versus Jones-Poindexter.

All parties, please, step forward.

[narrator] Clarissa Dobson
is suing her sister-in-law,

Kanisha Jones-Poindexter,
for a trip and wedding expenses.

Miss Dobson, I assume
this is your brother.

Yes, it is, Your Honor.

- [Judy] And this is his wife.
- [Clarissa] That is correct.

- [Judy] They're newly married.
- [Clarissa] That's correct.

[Judy]
When were they married?

- June of 2021, June 26th.
- [Judy] Were you at the wedding?

Yes, I was. I was in the wedding.

- [Judy] Wedding at your house?
- Wedding was at my home.

This is the unfortunate circumstance
that I read in your papers,

which I hope to be able
to resolve quickly.

You've known the Defendant
for many, many years.

Yes, that's correct.

She became engaged to
and she was getting married

and they were planning a wedding,

according to you, and Miss Poindexter,
according to you,

asked you to lay out certain monies
for her for the wedding.

That's correct.

[Judy] They were married.
It was a joyous day, I gather,

and then you asked her for the money back.

Yes, that's correct.

And she said, "I never agreed
to pay you any money, we're family.

I've done things for you,
you've done things for me.

There was never an agreement
for me to pay you."

And your brother, he said,
"Leave me out of this.

- Yep.
-"I don't want to get involved with this."

"You two ladies take care of it..."

That's exactly what he said.

[Judy] Okay. Well,
it seems like a family matter

than more like a court matter.

I don't see "stupid" written over here.

- No.
- If somebody doesn't have $50,

and you think I believe
that you relied on her statement

that I'm gonna pay you for this trip
that your brother is going on, too,

I don't believe it.

[theme music playing]

[narrator] Clarissa Dobson
claims her sister-in-law,

Kanisha Jones-Poindexter,

is responsible for trip costs
and wedding expenses.

- You have your own home.
- [Clarissa] Yes, that's correct.

[Judy]
Tell me about your home.

Nice home, got a lot of land.
We're on a property.

How much?

I would say probably a half an acre,
which was big enough

to put up two large tents,


the mayor, some police.

It was nice.

And there were certain things
that you paid for.

- Yes, that's correct.
- [Judy] You paid for a photographer?

- Yes, that's correct.
- How much?

The photographer was $300, Your Honor.

[Judy] Okay,
what else did you pay for?

Because the party was held at the home,
the wedding, excuse me,

all the events pertaining
to the wedding party

had to take place at the home.

[Judy]
Like what?

So, like, we had our bridal shower
meetings, 'cause also Miss...

You mean the meetings to plan the wedding.

- [Clarissa] Right, to plan the wedding.
- I'm not interested in that.

So far, we have $300 for a photographer
that you say you laid out.

Did she lay out that money?

- Yes.
- [Judy] Yes. Okay, what else?

Her rides back and forth...

[Judy]
I'm not interested in her rides.

How was she gonna get there?
She's in Philadelphia, I'm in New Jersey.

$300 for a photographer. What else?

And just money she asked to borrow,
for the most part, throughout the wedding.

- [Judy] Just a second. How much?
- So, we have...

And when?
So far, $300 for a photographer.

So, on January 20th, Your Honor,
we have $150.

- [Judy] For what?
- She didn't state what it was for.

It was for the wedding,
though, 'cause I have it here.

Everything wedding is here.

Well, did she ask you for this $150
on the phone, in person...

She asked for it, like, over the phone.
But then, I sent the money too.

So anything that I sent to her,
I always sent to her through Cash App

because she's in Philadelphia, no car...

Okay. Then, let me ask Miss Poindexter.
Miss Poindexter,

there would be no other reason
for Miss Dobson to send money to you

through a Cash App
during the wedding period

other than for the wedding.
Would that be accurate?

Not in January, Your Honor.
We didn't start planning our wedding

until 90 days before June.
So, anything that happened in January

had nothing to do with my wedding.

Okay. Do you have Cash App statements
before January?

- I have nothing before January.
- [Judy] She has nothing...

I have everything from January, on.

Only after. So, that would be
for the wedding.

We didn't start planning our wedding
until about March.

We got married in June.

So, what would she
be sending you money for...

It has been times... I'm sorry.
It has been times when

I'll ask her for, you know,
let me get $50, or...

- You know, it has been times...
- [Judy] Why?

If I didn't have it, or if
I needed car fare or something.

And she would do that,
she would lend me money, and vice versa.

No, I'm not talking about vice versa.
I don't have a counterclaim.

That, you said perfectly.
"I would ask her for $50 or $100,

and she would lend me that."

Is that the word she used?
Let's make sure I heard that right.

She says, "It has been times when I'll
ask her for, you know, let me get $50,

or you know, there has been times..."
And you asked her why.

She said, "If I didn't have it
or I needed car fare or something.

And she would do that. She would
lend me money and vice versa."

Thank you. "Lend me money."

So, okay, now we're going
to get to, Miss Dobson,

how much money did you
send her via Cash App?

'Cause she's already just acknowledged
that those were loans.

So, $150...

[Judy]
Let me have the dates.

Oh, okay. All right.

[Judy]
Let's go back. $150 on what date?

- January 20th.
- Okay, $100 on what date?

- [Clarissa] On February 11th.
- [Judy] Next.

- March 8th, $50.
- [Judy] Okay.

[Clarissa] April 4th, $100.
May 11th, $20. May 17th, $25.

May 22nd, $205.
Uh, $15 on May 25th.

May 28th, $45. June 3rd, $15.

And I had a February 28th in here for $50,
that was the first one. I'm sorry.

[Judy] I had February 11th, only.
So, you have another...

Right. A February 28th for $50.

- Can I see all of those?
- [Clarissa] Yes, ma'am.

- Here you go.
- [Judy sighs]

Okay. Sarah Rose,
would you fix that up for me?

Okay, and you,
based upon the read-back

and based upon what I thought I heard,

anytime she sent you money
it's because you ran out of money

or you were in a bind,
and she loaned you the money.

That's what was here. Okay, you have...

Seven hundred and seventy-five dollars.

[Judy] $775. Has she paid you back
any of that money?

No, Your Honor.

Okay, now, the photographer.
I want you to tell me

how it came about
that you paid the photographer.

Because
Miss Jones-slash-Poindexter

was waiting on unemployment to hit.

I'm not saying she wasn't trying
to get the money up, 'cause she was.

But when the time came,
this photographer guy needed to get paid,

she didn't have the money.

Want to tell me about the photographer?

Yes. The photographer, I believe
I was short, like 300 some-odd dollars.

And Clarissa did
put the rest of the money...

Why didn't you pay her the $775?

I don't believe I owe Clarissa...

But you just told me that she loaned you
the money when you were short.

And she wired it to you,
or did whatever they do in a Cash App.

I don't understand all of that.
You said it was a loan.

Is there any reason why you
didn't pay her back? No. Okay.

So, so far, I have $775 and $300. Next.

Okay, so now we have the trip.
They are the godparents of my twins.

Your Honor, we were inseparable, so...

They're the godparents of your twins,
your twins.

Came time for their birthday, she said...

Month and year.

April of last year, 2021.

Okay, April of 2021.

Right. So, in the process
of planning the twins' birthday,

Miss Jones-Poindexter said,
"Oh, I would like to go.

I'm just waiting on the unemployment,
pandemic money, all that to hit."

When it came time to go,
they didn't have the money.

You're talking about the Defendant
and your brother. Yeah, they both went.

- Right, so...
- Just a second, they both went.

They both went, that's correct.

- [Judy] What work does your brother do?
- [Clarissa] He was a chef at the time.

- [Judy] So he was working.
- [Clarissa] Yes.

And she wasn't working.

Yes. Can I say something?

You can say whatever you want to say,
you know where I'm going, don't you?

- I know where you're going.
- Okay.

Like I said, we were inseparable, right?

I don't care
about the social aspect of this.

Okay, but certain things she just didn't
want to let him know she was doing,

'cause she thought
she was gonna get this money.

Miss Dobson, I don't care whether you say
she didn't know what she was doing.

You were already in a place where,
on January 20th,

she didn't have $150,
so you sent it to her.

On February 11th, she didn't have $100.
You sent it to her.

On March 8th, she didn't have $50.
You had to send it to her.

So, I don't see "stupid"
written over here.

- [Clarissa] No.
- If somebody doesn't have 50 bucks,

and you think I believe
that you relied on her statement,

that I'm gonna pay you for this trip
that your brother is going on, too,

because his godchildren
are celebrating a birthday,

I don't believe it.
So, let's just forget a trip.

$775 is what she says she owes you

because she says it was a loan.

[Judy] $300 for the photographer.
You have the pictures?

- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] And I don't hear

anything from you suggesting to me
that this $300 was a gift.

I honestly did believe that
she was doing it for our wedding.

Okay, good. $1,075, judgment
for the Plaintiff. Thank you very much.

- [Kevin] This court is adjourned.
- [Judy] That's it.

It's just a sad situation
all the way around.

That's probably how she feels right now.

I love my sister-in-law.

She loves me and I love her,
so what.

Honestly, I just want to be able
to see my god-kids.

I'm sure we'll be all right.

It's always unfortunate and sad
when a nice occasion turns sour

- by one thing.
- Yeah.

And I thought the brother/ husband...

Was the smartest one.

The smartest one.

"I'm staying out of this.
Between my sister and my wife..."

Yep. The safest place he could be
was right where he sat.

It's just unfortunate. I mean,
families squabble all the time.

But just to bring it
into a legal system.

There are ramifications for that,
that sometimes your anger or emotions

- can get the better of you.
- That's true.

But to take it to a filing stage
and to use the court system,

that's just a next level that I feel like
most family members don't need.

- Don't do. Yeah. You're right.
- Yeah.

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