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01x04 - Nothing Takes the Place of You

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Stax: Soulsville U.S.A.". Aired: May 20 – May 21, 2024.*
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The series follows Stax Records, a record label that ushered in artists, Otis Redding, Isaac Hayes, Booker T. & the M.G.'s, The Staple Singers and Sam & Dave; The label went from being an outsider to one of the most influential producers of music, with an impact even after the label has gone.

01x04 - Nothing Takes the Place of You

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My father

was a landscaping contractor

for Winthrop Rockefeller

of the Rockefeller family.

As a teenager, I delivered

invoices from my father.

And one time, Rockefeller

talked to me about wealth.

He taught me the major financial

world's way of thinking.

One, you don't own

any of the turf.

So if you wanna become

an entrepreneur,

you have to appreciate

that there's someone else

that owns the turf

that you're setting out

to build something on.

Two, after you've gotten

to a certain magnitude,

you begin to infringe on

somebody else's market share.

And that's the major

corporations in this country.

Once you do that, they realize

you're achieving something,

they come in

and they wanna buy it.

"If we can't buy it from you,

we'll try to copy it.

And if we can't copy it,

then we'll destroy you."

The big fish

has to eat the little fish.

I understood the rules

of the game in America,

but after all of our success,

I began to wonder,

why couldn't Stax

become the big fish?

By the '70s,

Stax was on everybody's radar

in the music industry.

Very successful, recognized,

but Stax's presence

on the West Coast

still eluded them.

We decided to open

an office in Los Angeles.

But to have more impact

on the West Coast,

we needed more involvement

in the Black community.

Black folks in Watts

needed help.

We had just gone

through the Rebellion,

you know, six,

seven years before.

There were whole blocks

that had been burned down

and seven years later

they had not been rebuilt.

There's no difference

in Watts now, Watts '65.

Those people were in pain.

We had an obligation and needed

to do something about it.

Al's commitment

to the Black community,

he felt like he should give

something back

and still conduct business

and-and make money.

I understood that he felt

he needed to do that.

We decided to put on a concert

at the Los Angeles stadium

where the Rams play.

The management at the stadium

kinda laughed at us,

"You're some

little record company

from out of Memphis, Tennessee.

You wanna rent this stadium

to put on a concert?

Who do you say

these artists are?"

It became, "Let's bring the

whole entire roster out there."

And we were promoting

the daylights out of it.

Everybody

knew Wattstax, Wattstax.

We worked on it for months,

and every time

you run into anybody,

they'd say, "I'll be there.

I'll be there."

Now it looks

like we may pack this stadium.

So you know how it is

when there's a gathering

of more than one of us

someplace,

the largest segment of society

begins to kind of wonder,

"Are we gonna

have a problem here?"

The LAPD

wanted to patrol the Coliseum.

Nobody liked the Los Angeles

Police Department.

The Rebellion started

because of the LAPD.

Their hiring practices

were to go to the South

and get police from there.

So they hated us in the South,

and then they brought 'em here

to the West.

You got

police that are antagonistic,

who want to do

some c*ck waving kind of thing

and provoke somebody.

Larry Shaw

and Al Bell said,

"No, we were hiring

our own security."

You just eliminated

a huge problem.

No police, no conflict.

We the people ♪

Hey, now ♪

Got to make the world

go 'round ♪

Got to make the world now ♪

We the people ♪

Yeah ♪

Got to make the world

go 'round ♪

Got to make the world now ♪

Let's bring together our people.

Let's show ourselves that we can

do something for each other

and not be dependent upon

anybody, and we can do it.

But we all are

living on blood, so ♪

Don't let nobody

slip into the mud ♪

'Cause we the people ♪

You tell 'em ♪

Got to make the world

go 'round ♪

Got to make the world now ♪

We decided that

we were going to

charge the people

just one dollar.

And we committed to

give a portion of the proceeds

to all of our civil rights

organizations

and our civic organizations.

Everybody sweatin' ♪

What you give

is what you get ♪

Our music was a reflection

of what goes on in our lives,

and we wanted to show that.

Larry Shaw said,

"Let us do a documentary

so that Black people

can see themselves."

We brought on David Wolper

and Mel Stuart.

The finest documentary people

in Hollywood.

But all of

the behind-the-camera staff

were all white guys.

No. No. No, we didn't want that.

Larry Shaw had a vision.

He wanted the people that lived

and worked in Watts

to speak for theirselves.

And at that time,

UCLA had just graduated

a crop of Black filmmakers.

African Americans

had been pretty much

kept out of the industry.

They needed to find some people

who really knew the community.

And that was us,

"The Wild Bunch."

You know,

the-the-the young guys

that lived in South Central LA.

I was 20-something.

Was just a young guy

with a camera

and happy to have a chance

to use a camera.

And I wanted to show how

beautiful Black folks were.

I was working at a camera shop.

I have quite a meager portfolio,

to be honest.

They looked at the portfolio

and they said to me, uh,

"We're going with somebody else,

but here's some tickets,

and a backstage pass."

Camera six, roll nine!

Wild sound. Wattstax.

Some people ♪

Are made of plastic ♪

Over seven years ago,

the people of Watts

stood together

and demanded to be heard.

On a Sunday this past August

in the Los Angeles Coliseum,

over 100,000 Black people

came together

to commemorate that moment

in American history.

The atmosphere,

it was like a combination

of church, a sporting event,

a revival,

and it was nothing

but Black people

as far as the eye could see.

Today, we are together,

we are unified

and on one accord.

But when we are together,

we got power,

and we can make decisions.

That is why we gather today,

to celebrate our homecoming

and our own sense

of somebodiness.

That is why I challenge you now

to stand together,

raise your fists together,

and engage

in our national Black litany.

-I am

- I am

-somebody.

- somebody.

-I am

-I am

-somebody.

-somebody.

-I may be poor

-I may be poor

-but I am

-but I am

-somebody!

-somebody!

-I am

-I am

-Black

-Black

-beautiful

-beautiful

-proud!

-proud!

-I must be respected!

-I must be respected!

-I must be protected!

-I must be protected!

What time is it?

When we stand together,

what time is it?

Nation Time!

When we say no more,

"Yessir, boss," what time is it?

What time is it?

What time is it?

"Freedom

Sweet and wonderful to say.

On my heartstrings freedom sings

All day, every day."

"And there are words

like Liberty

that almost make me cry.

If you had known what I know,

you would know why."

I had been at a stadium before,

but I had no idea how many

people were up there.

It was just when they told me

it was over a hundred thousand

people, I was like "Wow."

Carla Thomas!

By the time I sang,

I was hyped up on adrenaline.

Hey, boy ♪

We're drifting apart ♪

We keep breaking

each other's hearts ♪

Tell me, how long

can this go on ♪

Before all our love is gone ♪

Tell me now ♪

Can we pick up the pieces ♪

Can we pick up the pieces ♪

And start all over ♪

Yeah ♪

I know we can make it ♪

This time, we can go

all of the way ♪

'Cause I realize

the cost of losing you ♪

Is too high a price ♪

When we first got there,

it was kinda unreal.

I just thought

it was just so wonderful

because I was there

when Stax actually started.

Let's start all over ♪

Yeah, start all over ♪

It was our realization,

the importance of Stax

to the Black community.

Oh, yeah ♪

All right!

Tell the truth

on our equal rights ♪

Yeah! You been lyin'

on the truth ♪

Al, this is a very important

precedent that's being set today

with Black enterprise

being involved

in a tremendous

community project.

Uh, do you think

there's enough of this?

Would you like to see

more of it?

Oh, I think

there should be more of that.

Uh, I hope that today

is just an example

to all Black businessmen,

and other businessmen,

of how we

should begin to participate

and-and-and put money

back into the community

rather than through

token presentations

that we've been doing

in the past.

I hope today is just

a-a-an example

and merely beginning

of what it's really all about.

Right now, we'd like to give

everybody a chance

to get down.

Whoa-oh-whoa-oh-whoa ♪

Whoa-h*-h*-h* ♪

Woo-hoo ♪

I was born and raised

on 45th Street ♪

Had the problems of a man

at the age of three ♪

Now, my daddy's bad,

I've been told ♪

So my family name

I must uphold ♪

I love by the clock

and I live by the g*n ♪

You ever met the father,

you met his son ♪

Woo! ♪

Yeah, yeah ♪

As a sister living

in this community,

what does this day mean to you?

Oh, wow.

It's a day in which

I'm given a chance

to represent people that I love,

people that I'm proud of.

Dad felt it important to get

the man on the street,

the woman on the

in the beauty shop,

the man at the restaurant,

the man on the stoop,

all of these different aspects

of Black people in their lives.

Black is beautiful

because it feels so good.

People have to have something

that they can relate to

for right now.

I don't mean tomorrow,

for right now,

dig what I'm saying?

Woo! ♪

Good God Almighty ♪

Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo! ♪

Don't mess with me ♪

I wanted Black people to be able

to look into that mirror

and see themselves positively,

and I wanted white people

to be able

to look through

a little peephole

and be able to look inside

and see just a little bit

of what we were all about.

Lord knows I'm the son ♪

Hee-hee! ♪

Woo, oh! ♪

There's a lot more

than putting out music.

Hey!

-Hey!

-Hey!

-Hey!

-Hey!

-Can I ask you something?

Ain't I'm clean?

Oh!

Y'all come on in now!

Come right on down front!

I got somethin'

I wanna show you.

I'm talking about

the Funky Chicken.

The deal was, is that

no one's supposed to

get on the field.

Y'all ready?

Do the funky chicken now ♪

Do the funky chicken now ♪

Do the funky chicken now ♪

And he invites everybody

in on the field

and they're dancing and having

a good time, you know.

Do the funky chicken now ♪

Oh, oh ♪

Do the funky chicken now ♪

Los Angeles Rams

are gonna play

Woo! ♪

so a problem was brewing.

And then, Larry Shaw

whispers something in his ear,

and what he's saying is,

"Get 'em off the field."

Come on, y'all,

please go to the stand.

Please with a capital P-P.

God bless

the talents of Rufus Thomas.

He was able to control

that crowd.

That's right.

Might be a little slow,

but you just got to go.

Don't jump the fence

because it don't make sense.

And there's one guy

that's on the field

and he's acting a fool.

You know, he's doing all kinds

of crazy stuff.

He don't mean

to be mean,

he just want be seen.

Yeah, that's a brother,

all right.

Somebody told him he's cute

and he want to try

to show it off out there.

It could've been a conflict,

but there were no police inside.

Now, y'all get him off.

Y'all go out there

and get him off.

Get him off, y'all.

Get him on off.

Get him on off.

And finally, the kids rush out,

and he doesn't want to go,

but they don't beat him up

or they're not violent.

It's just like the power

of this this loving mob

just swept him off the field

in a very nice way.

It also kinda showed the unity

that was there that day.

Dad was amazing.

And then I asked him, I said,

"Can we go sit

out in the audience?"

He said, "Are you crazy? No!"

They wouldn't let us go out.

Because I wanted to see,

as the sun was going down,

I wanted to see Isaac.

Brothers and sisters,

we are now

about to bring forth

a bad

bad

bad brother,

Isaac Hayes.

Yeah!

Yes!

Yes!

Yeah, yeah, yeah!

Yes!

So here I am

as a young photographer,

just trying to make his way

in the world.

So I decided I needed to get up

on that platform.

Yeah, yeah, yeah!

Yeah, yeah!

They had hired, you know,

the slabs of beef brothers,

the big, the big brothers,

but they weren't really

security.

So I was able to waltz

right up the stairway.

I had zero credentials

to be on that stage.

I was just there by sheer luck

and a little audacity.

And I'm a foot away

from Isaac Hayes

in front of everybody.

Soulsville ♪

Black man ♪

Born free ♪

At least that's the way

it's supposed to be ♪

The chains that bind him

are hard to see ♪

Unless you take

this walk with me ♪

Ooh ♪

The place where he lives ♪

Has got plenty of names ♪

Slum, ghetto,

and Black belt ♪

They are one and the same ♪

-And I call it ♪

-Soulsville ♪

Okay, so, this is one

of the photographs

I took of Isaac Hayes

that night.

Wattstax was, for me,

a pivotal moment.

Later, I had the audacity

to think

I need to be one of the keepers

of Black folks' history,

visual history.

'Cause I wasn't gonna leave it

to somebody else.

Little Black boy ♪

Needs a pair of shoes ♪

And this is only a part of ♪

Soulsville ♪

The images,

they chose me.

That was my dream,

to become a cameraman.

And, uh, it came true.

In ‘74, I went to Zaire,

and I filmed

When We Were Kings,

Muhammad Ali and George Foreman.

I got the job because I

they saw Wattstax.

This is what I wanted to do

when I was 12 years old

in sixth grade.

I did something.

I did something. You know?

This misery that we have in ♪

Soulsville ♪

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪

That day that I stood

on that stage

in Los Angeles, California,

and saw that place,

which was probably

an impossible dream

filled with 112,000

of my people

The highest day in my life,

that day.

I can't even explain how much

that meant to me.

Soulsville ♪

Two thousand

soulful people came together

for the opening of Wattstax.

Wattstax, how about that?

The growth at Stax

from the beginning of the label

till the Wattstax

documentary film

is mind-boggling to comprehend.

Stax, and many people

in the music industry,

begin to think in bigger terms

for Black artists.

And opens up the door for

artists we all know and love.

By '73, Memphis

was in the top five

record producing centers

in the world.

New York, L.A., London,

then Nashville and Memphis,

driven by the success

of Stax Records.

We were all learning

and developing and growing

and changing.

Oh my goodness.

Stax, it was excellence.

It was Black excellence.

You got writers, producers,

publishers, costume people.

There was a company

that was created

as a result of selling

Isaac all of his instruments

and sound systems

and stuff for the road.

So Stax was important

to the economy of the city.

One time,

Jim Stewart called the president

of Union Planters National Bank

to borrow a million dollars.

We paid him back

in less than a year.

And in Memphis, Tennessee,

at that time,

to borrow a million dollars,

especially being

a little old record company

in the music business

and pay that back,

"What the hell

are you all doing?"

"We want to do business

with y'all."

Union Planters National Bank.

To help you get more

out of life.

Up until that time,

Stax had been under the radar

because it was

in an all-Black area.

But word started getting out

that people were making

a lot of money over there.

You know, all the artists

started buying

all the fancy cars

right and left.

King Furs made a lot of money.

I bought my first one there

when I was 21.

Local merchants were making

money because we spent money.

Whites took the money,

but they still resented it.

I remember going to the bank

a couple of times,

and, you know, the tellers

would have an attitude

seeing a Black person coming in

with a nice-sized check.

I had a jeweler

who I brought

a lot of business to.

He told my wife,

"Isaac is getting too big

for his britches."

For most of white Memphis,

it's like, "How did this happen?

How did how did these

Black people in South Memphis

become this big

and have this power?"

We were energized, successful,

and there was nothing in Memphis

to stop it or to change it.

The early '70s were very good

but I'd been doing this

for 15 years or more,

night and day,

seven days a week.

I was getting tired.

One day, Jim said, "Al,

I think we need

to sell the company."

And I said, "No, Jim,

we don't need to sell."

I loved this company,

and my personal mission

is to continue to build

and grow Stax Records.

I couldn't just give it up.

I understood

where Al was coming from,

so I agreed to sell

my interest to Al.

I needed millions

of dollars to buy Jim out.

So I knew I had to get to one of

these major companies out here

and get me some help.

I went to several companies,

but there was no place

in the entire industry

that would offer the kind

of money that we needed,

except CBS.

The leader

in the rock revolution.

CBS Records took in

two billion,

seventeen million dollars.

And that's just

for records and tapes.

Columbia, CBS Records

was the number one

recorded music company

in existence in our industry.

They were all power.

The whole of the industry

bowed to their knees.

But there was a problem.

The Black segment

of the industry

considered CBS r*cist.

They believed CBS didn't care

about them at all.

It was as though

they were nonexistent.

Where I found some peace

within me to make this decision

was Clive Davis

Oh, yeah ♪

the president

of CBS Records.

Mr. Big Stuff ♪

Who do you think you are,

Mr. Big Stuff? ♪

Clive Davis

A genius.

I explained to him my mission

to expand into the mainstream.

He said, "Well, Al, I think

I can get that done.

I think we can do that."

Clive Davis

saw this as making money

in the R&B business,

that, at that point,

CBS had yet to be making.

The soul music market

was substantial, it was growing,

and for CBS, the opportunity

with Stax was gold.

When we finished talking,

Clive Davis got up,

took my arm, said "Al,

we're gonna march

through this industry together

and show them

what can be done out here."

The deal that Al Bell

and Clive Davis worked out

was the inverse of the typical

distribution deal of the time.

CBS could get a 15% royalty

of the sales

and Stax would get the rest.

Plus, Stax maintained

creative control.

This is a total flip.

The little guy is going to make

a lot more than the big guy,

the corporate behemoth.

No large American

record corporation

had ever agreed to a deal

like this before.

With CBS, things were really,

really happening.

Stax got into spoken word,

country, rock, show tunes.

Would you welcome Lena Zavaroni?

We had signed this little girl.

She had a voice

like Ethel Merman.

Every minute,

he gets bolder ♪

Now he's leaning

on my shoulder ♪

Mama ♪

We were on top of the world.

We were on top of the world.

Whoa, Mama ♪

He's kissing me ♪

Al Bell really

wanted to make Stax Records

a major label

equal to RCA or Columbia.

Yeah ♪

The Stax-Columbia deal

was made October 24, '72

and by May 1973,

Columbia, which was owned

by CBS,

had a problem.

The story begins

with Pat Falcone,

convicted heroin smuggler

with ties to

a large New York mafia family.

Patsy Falcone was arrested

on a drug charge

and a quantity of heroin

was also seized.

In Falcone's address book,

investigators found the name

of a high-level executive

at Columbia Records,

a major record company

in rock music.

A while later, that executive

and Clive Davis,

president of Columbia Records,

were fired on short notice.

CBS is saying nothing

about the dismissal

of Clive Davis

other than an official statement

saying that he's being sued

for misappropriation

of company funds.

They fired Clive Davis.

I said, "Oh my God."

The only reason

I made the deal with CBS

was because of the relationship

with Clive Davis.

And now he's gone.

Clive Davis's

successors get into office.

They start looking

at the various deals

they have with various

companies.

They see the Stax deal

and think this is nuts.

This little company

in this backwater town,

as these New York executives

saw it,

had control of everything.

And so they want to renegotiate

the deal.

I said, "Wait a minute."

I had already signed a deal.

Well, my mind went back to

what Winthrop Rockefeller

taught me

about big fish

eats the little fish.

They try to copy

what you're doing.

Rolling.

They come

and try to acquire

or purchase what you're doing.

And if they can't do that,

then they set out

to put you out of business.

There are rules in this game,

in that world.

But I couldn't accept

that offer.

-What time is it?

-Nation Time!

I don't think Al realized

what he might be up against

when you got powerful executives

at a corporation the size

and scale of Columbia

who decide,

"No, this doesn't work for us.

It's time to renegotiate."

It's like talking to the mafia.

You're not gonna have

your kneecaps broken,

but you're gonna say no?

See what happens.

I was in Washington, D.C.,

doing promotions,

and I went into Waxie Maxie,

ran by a gentleman

by the name of Herbie Cohen,

who has 19 stores

in the Washington, D.C. area.

And I knew Herbie personally.

So I went through

and see the salespeople

getting their aisles together,

tidied up and everything.

I said, "How am I doing

on that new Johnnie Taylor?"

"We don't have it."

"Uh?"

"We don't have Johnnie Taylor."

"Hold on, hold on."

So I ran back up

and I said, "Well, by the way,

I didn't see the Staple Singers.

You got them?"

"We don't have it."

"Uh-huh?"

And I said, "Herbie, why you not

having no product?

What's going on?

You lost your mind?"

And he said,

"No, I ain't lost my mind.

You lost yours.

CBS got you on hold."

"On hold?"

I went to Dallas

with the Staple Singers.

They were opening

at the Fairmont Hotel.

Actually the first Black act

to ever headline

at a Fairmont Hotel.

You got radio spots running

and-and-and all of that,

and they're appearing

right there in town.

You know, it's a tremendous

opportunity to sell product.

So imagine

imagine my confusion

when I'm talking

to the record shops,

and I'm told that,

"Well, we love--

I mean, sales would be going

well if we had some product."

"You don't have product?

CBS is our distributor,

there's an office in Dallas,

and you don't have

Staple Singers product?"

I talked to CBS

every week,

two times a week,

three times a week,

and always gotta start

with, "Al, it's just,

there's no demand for it."

"But there's demand

for product in the market!"

"But, Al, we're not

getting the demand in here."

So, now keep in mind,

CBS is laughing

because they control

your money now.

Stax Records

is continuing to produce product

at the pace and level

that it always has,

but we can't get the product

into the marketplace

because CBS

controls our distribution.

No product out.

If you press it,

they're stockpiling it someplace

where you can't find it.

CBS got in touch with me

and asked me to have

a meeting with me.

Said to me, "Al, what we'd like

to do is make a deal with you

where we will make you

vice president of CBS Corporate.

You have access to all the perks

that executives of your stature

get inside of CBS.

The corporate jets.

We'd like for you to go

around America, speaking

and talking to people

about the beautiful relationship

with CBS

working with Black people.

And when soul music artists

start making demands,

we want you to come in and say,

'CBS is gonna take care of you,

and it can help build your

career and build your life.'"

He said, "And you'll be the most

powerful Black man in America.

What do you think

about that, Al?"

I said, "Let me

let me think about that."

And I disappeared. I left.

There was a desire

to take Stax over,

own it and control it, you know?

"Y'all sing and dance

and do what you do best,

and we'll take care

of the business."

If I'd accepted that deal,

I knew what the end results

of that was going to be.

A contemporary sl*ve.

I couldn't take that.

I can't sell my soul.

At the same time, I wouldn't

knowingly sabotage the careers

of all of those artists at Stax.

So I couldn't do it.

Ultimately,

CBS starts withholding money

from Stax.

Suddenly, there's no income

coming into this company.

I came back to Stax

when the company

fell into financial straits.

We, um, had a substantial debt.

So I put what money

I'd gotten for the sale

back into the company.

We were belt tightening.

We cut back employees.

We cut back until

there was almost no overhead.

We had to work from nothing.

Yes,

it was back scrapping again.

But, you know,

you get knocked down,

the challenge is get back up.

That's how you stay in the game.

During that time,

Al Bell was inspirational.

Al, you know,

was gonna find a way.

We used to call

Al Bell the "hype-meister"

because no matter

how dark the situation,

Al Bell has an upside

to the story.

"It's gonna be okay,

Ms. Crutcher.

Don't worry about it.

It's all right."

We needed to get some revenue.

So Jim Stewart came up

with the idea of Truth Records,

so we could sell records

outside of our deal with CBS

and start making money.

That was Stax refusing

to lay down,

refusing to say,

"Columbia got my hands tied."

- This is, uh, G.

One, two, three, four.

Hello?

May I speak to Barbara?

Barbara, this is Shirley.

Shirley Brown.

She, uh, she was a great artist.

She she would've been,

you know, an Aretha Franklin.

Woman to woman ♪

If you've ever been in love ♪

Then you know ♪

How I feel ♪

And woman to woman ♪

If you were in my shoes ♪

To this day, I can see

Al sitting there

with Jim in Jim's office,

listening to that groove.

You know?

Same thing too ♪

Making music like that,

that's what Stax was built on.

Woman to woman ♪

Now can't you see where

I'm coming from ♪

That's a thing of communicating

and moving you.

Making you feel something.

Woman to woman ♪

At number 22, moving up 4,

here's Shirley Brown

and "Woman to Woman."

Woman to woman ♪

Now, should

I just step aside ♪

And let her take

what's rightfully mine ♪

Oh, woman to woman ♪

Woman to Woman

was the last record I did.

Ironically enough

it was a million seller.

Too little, too late.

Stax

was doing everything they could

to save themselves

from economic strangulation

by CBS.

Suddenly, they have

this much bigger problem

with Union Planters,

who they've had

a long relationship with.

By the mid-'70s,

this bank was in trouble.

They had made an unbelievable

number of shaky loans

and is now being threatened

by the U.S. government

to get its ship straightened out

or go out of business.

And then it's discovered

that one of their employees

is forging checks.

He's a loan officer

named Joe Harwell,

who just happens to have

the Stax account.

Joe Harwell,

he'd been sent to prison.

I was shocked.

I was shocked.

I thought he was the best banker

in the world.

When the artists came in town,

if they needed to get money,

cash a Stax check,

I would send them to him.

The bank has insurance

that basically says

if there's fraudulent activity

between a bank employee

and a client,

they can collect millions

of dollars and save the bank.

The board of directors

at Union Planters

is comprised of the financial

elite within Memphis.

They were not going to allow

that bank to go down

if they could do

anything about it.

At Union Planters,

the solution is to

connect Joe Harwell to Al Bell.

In Memphis, Tennessee,

what better target

than a record company

that's predominantly

African American

that's making

Black people wealthy?

Our fate becomes their cover.

Union Planters National Bank

filed a 16-count indictment

against me and Joe Harwell

for conspiring to defraud

the bank of $18.9 million.

Can you imagine that

in Memphis, Tennessee?

And a Black man from Arkansas

conspiring to defraud

a white bank

of $18.9 million?

Is that believable?

Is that believable even?

When I went to my trial,

I thought based on the way

these attorneys

were presenting their case,

that the jurors,

two black people,

ten white people,

knowing the world,

that they would do anything

other than find me guilty.

I left the courtroom

that first day

and went back over there

on South Parkway

to my back guest bedroom,

got on my knees beside the bed,

and I opened a drawer.

My mind was I needed something,

and in that drawer

was my Bible

and my .38.

And as I looked at it,

I just grabbed my Bible,

took it out,

stayed on my knees,

and I went

to my Garden of Gethsemane.

Not my will,

but Thy will be done.

And made up my mind that night,

if they are successful

prosecuting me,

then I'll run this business

going forth

and rebuild it from jail.

If the only demon

in this situation that Al Bell

had been fighting

had been criminal,

that would've been one thing.

But he was fighting the most

insidious of all demons,

and that's racism.

He-- It was bigger

than Al Bell.

Al Bell just happened to be

the owner and face

of what it was

that Memphis was trying to k*ll.

All the charges against Al

caused us to lose credibility.

Nobody wanted to have anything

to do with Stax.

We could not overcome

all these things

coming at us from all sides.

I realized

the company was in trouble

when I went to cash my check.

I was told,

"We've been instructed, uh,

that we can't take

your payroll checks."

Then it got so bad

that uh, uh,

we were getting paid in cash.

I was writing money

out of my checking account,

giving to people,

because they'd say,

"I can't pay my house note.

I can't pay this, I can't pay."

And me giving people money

to take care of some

of their responsibilities.

Bills piling up.

No money coming in.

Employees and artists leaving.

One day,

I got called

into Deanie's office.

She said, "I've got to cut

my department in half

immediately,

and I'm starting with you

because in six months,

none of us are gonna be here."

In the final days,

I-I don't think there was more

than 20 people

left aboard ship to work.

Al was trying

to work things out,

get some money from here,

some money from there.

He definitely believed

he could keep Stax going

if we did one more great record

or one more thing.

I was in my office on McLemore,

and I got a telephone call

from the receptionist.

She said, uh, "Mr. Bell,

there are some police officers

and people from

Union Planters National Bank

that want to meet with you."

I walked up,

and then the officer

from Union Planters

National Bank,

he said, "Take us

to the master tape vault.

We want the master tapes."

I said, "What the heck

are you talking about?"

I looked and saw

a Black federal marshal,

and I said to him,

"What's going on, man?

I mean, what is this for?"

He said, "Well, Al,

Union Planters National Bank

brought an involuntary

bankruptcy proceeding

against you,

and I have to serve you

with that.

They want the master tapes."

I was really getting upset,

really getting upset.

Our most important asset

as a recorded music company

is those masters.

At that point, I really was

ready to go off.

And then the Black

federal marshal,

he said quietly,

"Be cool. They came to off you.

Be cool."

I said, "What?" He said,

"They came to off you, Al."

I said, "Whoa.

I'm facing death out there?"

I turned around, and I start

walking down the halls

and back toward

Studio B

and the master tape vault,

and showed them

how to open the vault,

and let them in.

Everything significant

that we achieved

was in those masters.

I remember calling up

top business people.

I thought, look,

I'm a white guy,

and I knew a few people

that owned certain things,

I thought, maybe

they'll listen to me.

And I remember going

to several people and saying,

"Look, Stax is an institution.

Why don't we save it?"

And nobody cared.

People with all the money

in the world,

who could have done something,

two or three of 'em

could have got together,

not even missed the money,

and-and saved it.

But no one was interested.

I couldn't get anybody

interested.

I went there one day.

It was rubble.

I parked right in front,

climbed up on them bricks

which was, like, 'bout here,

all along,

and laid down on them like this.

Just laid down on the bricks.

That was like

demolishing a pyramid.

So much so much blood,

sweat, and tears

went into that company

from so many of us.

When it ended,

my thought was

all the unfinished music,

you know,

all what could have been.

Think of the great music

that we could have produced

to share with the world.

I mean, you destroy art

like that

that's that's a sin.

After the close of Stax,

I would drive

and park across the street

and look at that vacant lot

and see the weeds there,

building gone

and I would cry.

Do you think people understand

how much a sacrifice

this kind of latter part

of the story was for you?

They have no earthly idea.

They have no earthly idea.

And people that I love

and that are a part of Stax,

and I know they don't.

That I was gonna be going

to jail if they'd convicted,

had been successful in that,

for two life times, 140 years?

That's what I've been through.

Al was acquitted.

By the time that was over,

you know,

he had to move out of Memphis.

He just couldn't take

the city anymore

'cause he how he felt

on what they had done to him.

What about you?

Well, we lost lost our home

and then

and the bank finally,

you know, took it.

And, um

So it was it was

kind of rough for a while.

But, you know, I consider myself

quite lucky, in all.

I loved to get up every morning

and go to work.

Gee whiz ♪

Look at his eyes ♪

Gee whiz ♪

How they hypnotize ♪

He's got everything ♪

The people

who gave their hearts

and minds and soul

to that company,

they made Stax Records.

Oh, oh ♪

Gee whiz ♪

He's all the joy ♪

Gee whiz ♪

Bettye Crutcher,

David and Isaac,

Rufus and Carla,

Booker T.,

Otis.

I hope I'm not his decoy ♪

I merely gave them

the tool

for them to express themselves.

Oh ♪

Our love ♪

There was real soul there.

I hope our love will ♪

Grow and grow ♪

'Cause ♪

We were trying to be that

example of the American ideal.

Those with the power,

they wanted Stax Records

to be erased.

But for years,

people would come to Memphis

from all over the world

and they would pick up

anything they could find

on that corner.

A pebble,

a piece of broken glass,

whatever they could get

that they thought might have

been a part

of that old Stax building,

because they were that excited

and that much in love

with the music that was created

at Stax Records

in Soulsville, USA.

Gee whiz ♪

Oh, yeah ♪

-Each new day ♪

-Each new day ♪

Finds me so blue, yeah ♪

Because nothing,

oh, nothing ♪

Takes the place of you ♪

I read your letters ♪

Oh, one by one ♪

And I still love you ♪

When it's all said and done ♪

Oh, my darling ♪

Oh, my darling, my darling ♪

I'm so blue, yeah ♪

Blue ♪

-Because nothing ♪

-Because nothing ♪

Oh, nothing ♪

Takes the place of you ♪

As I ♪

As I write this letter ♪

Oh, yeah ♪

It's raining, raining,

raining ♪

It's raining

on my windowpane ♪

Ah, and ♪

And I feel the need ♪

Oh, the need of you ♪

Because, see, without you,

oh, without you ♪

Where are you? ♪

Oh, nothing, nothing,

nothing seems the same ♪