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01x03 - Dis-Chord

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "SWV & XSCAPE: The Queens of R&B". Aired: March 5, 2023.*
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It follows female R&B Groups SWV and XSCAPE as they come together for a special concert event.

01x03 - Dis-Chord

Post by bunniefuu »

Previously on
"The Queens of R"...

Now we can talk about
the idea of all of us

getting together
to do this tour.

I'm not excited
about going on tour.

[energetic
hip-hop instrumental]

We got a lot of internal issues
that we gotta deal with.

[dramatic music]

Tamika and Tocha
aren't getting along.

That's a major issue
'cause they're sisters.

When you do things wrong,
Mama get quiet.

What do I do?
What do I do?

When you do stuff...

when you stole my money...

Mama didn't say nothing.

I stand up
for you many times.



- I'm working nonstop.
- Yeah.

I'm so happy we home,

even if it's just
for a couple days.

Mm.

Eriq, do you know
who Xscape is?

[music slows to a halt]

No?

[laughter]

Ooh, you been practicing?

Trying to finish some tracks
so we can get in the stu.

So cool, the stu.

Jayye is in school
for dentistry,

but all of a sudden,
he wants to be a singer.

I wish that I would have
gone to college

and done other stuff.
- Yeah.



You followed your sister
all those years.

Because, when I did that,
I got my mom's love.

Mm-hmm.

Like, why now, and why solo?

When you've been part
of a group,

it's very hard
to speak your truth.

What does this mean
for Xscape?

So they don't know
you meeting with us right now?

She was supposed to go solo.
You went solo.

She's never gonna own that.

She can't get past
who you've become

and who she didn't become.



♪ I don't live
an ordinary life ♪

♪ This is my life,
my right, my life ♪

♪ Kick off your shoes
and relax your feet ♪

♪ Party on down
to the Xscape beat ♪

Just kick.
Got that?

Ooh, hi, deer!

I think that's a wrap.

♪ And I ain't gonna never
live no ordinary life ♪

Hey, so how many people
do you have subscribed

to your YouTube channel now?

17,261.

What?
[laughs]

♪ And you ain't never
dimming down my light ♪

♪ You can keep
your ordinary life ♪

- Did you have a good day?
- You already asked me that.

Why you always gotta
be smart-mouthed?

Hm?

You get that from your
daddy's side of the family.

Okay.

Well, you might get it
from my side.

Oh, boy.

♪ This is my life,
my right, my life ♪

♪ My right, my life

♪ This is my life,
my right, my life ♪

♪ This is my life, my right,
my life ♪

♪ And I ain't never gonna live
no ordinary life ♪



- Hey.
- Ms. Taj.

- Hey.
- Hey, babe, how are you?

- Good to see you.
- Good to see you too.

- Welcome to the 'Ville.
- Yes, I was about to say.

I'm in your city.
What's up?

Have you been here before?

- I have not.
- All right.

We gotta go check it out.
- Come on now.

Taj has this energy
about her.

We're both from
two different girl groups,

but we've found a common place,
and it's music.

The first time
that I even heard SWV,

it was electric.

♪ I am gonna try to

What's the next...
♪ Boy, my body's just for you

And I was like, "I love it!"

If y'all did it,
we can do it too.

Oh, look at this,
"Straight Outta Compton."

"Straight Outta Compton."

I fell in love with that

"Straight Outta Compton"
cassette tape...

- Yeah, yeah.
- Because they curse so much.

I was like "[BLEEP] that sh..."

- Oh, oh.
- [laughs]

Well, you know,
we grew up gospel,

so I couldn't listen to it,

but when I would be
with my cousins, yeah.

- Okay, LL Cool.
- Yes.

Ladies love Cool J.
- I still do.

Yes.
[both laugh]

- Oh, Whitney Houston.
- Whitney.

Destiny's Child.

Girl, I remember
when they were babies.

They used to look us up.

Every time
we had to go to Houston,

they would find our hotel...
- Are you serious?

And be in the lobby
waiting for us.

It was adorable.
They were our, like, superfans.

They loved us.

We used to take them on
autograph signings, everything.

- Really?
- In-stores, yeah.

- Get outta here.
- Yeah.

- I never knew that.
- What do we have here?

Wow.

It's such a privilege
to be on this wall.

It is.

It's humbling
just to be a part of this.

Absolutely.

Thank you
for bringing me, Taj.

- Yes.
- I really enjoyed this.

- I wanted to see yourself.
- Yeah.

- Look at how beautiful.
- Yeah.

The fact that my grandchildren
can say,

"My grandmother contributed
to this in a special way,"

my heart is elated.
- Can you imagine?

We're a part of
African American music history.

Oh!

Baby, we in this thing.

I want you to tell me
a little about everything

that's been happening
since we last met.

Okay, let's sit.

I mean, the last summit
was intense,

to say the least.
- Yeah.

So how can we work this out?

Because it was very clear
that something was wrong

between you and your sister.
- Mm-hmm.

- Where we sitting?
- Oh.

You can sit over here
next to your sister.

[quirky hip-hop beat]

- Don't you look cute.
- Thank you.



I felt like
she body-shamed me.

It was like a lot
of different things...

- Body-shamed you?
- Yeah.

It's a long story about me

having the little butt
in the group.

Hold up, I know y'all ain't
fighting over no booty-booty.

No, it's not that.
That's not the only thing.

Some things happened
with her and my mom.

Girl, nobody steal
your money.

When you and Rocky
stole my money,

Mama didn't say nothing!

Mama got quiet
just like she quiet now!



I'm the oldest,
and when you disrespect Mom,

I'm like,
"What's going on with you?"

Well, that seemed like
there's something more

going on between
you and your sister.

That's it.

Tocha is very vague
with her answers.

Honestly, I don't know

what the [BLEEP]
they arguing over.

I have no idea,
but clearly their conflict

is way, way more advanced
than I thought it could be.

You need to get back
to the beginning.

Things change,
people change,

and situations change.

- I hope for the good, right?
- As we speak.

I'm hoping
for the good as well.

- Yeah?
- Yeah.

I had a meeting today.
- Oh, yeah?

Yeah, for a record deal.

- A solo deal?
- Yeah, yep.

I plan on stepping out
and not fearing this time.

What does that mean?

Are you planning
on leaving the group?

I want to step out
and find some freedom.



♪ I had to hit 'em
with the flex one time ♪

♪ I don't even stress, baby

♪ You about
to make a mess, baby ♪

♪ Why you looking
so perplexed, baby ♪

♪ I had to hit 'em
with the flex one time ♪

Hello.

- Hey.
- Oh, hey, my sister.

Hi.
[honks]

[beeps]
[laughter]

- What's goodie?
- Hey, sister.

- How you doing?
- What's up?

You look good.
I love him.

Hey, baby.

Oh.
[laughter]

What's going on?
- You done got skinnier.

- Yes.
- You too, little face.

Oh, okay.
[laughs]

I'm so excited and happy
to be home

'cause I get to see
my best friends.

Can I start you off
with something to drink?

I want the penthouse.

Can I get a Coke
with a lot of ice?

- I want a Shirley Temple.
- How old are you?

[laughter]

LaTroy is like
my little baby brother.

Anything I need ever,
he's there for me.

Can I ask you something?
What is this?

A bra.

I bet them
little t*tties hang

when she take that bra...
[laughter]

Tamiya, I consider her
a little sister.

She's not caught up
on who I am or what I do.

I just prefer real people.

You on that Hollywood sh...,
I'm not here for it.

So what the hell
you been doing?

I mean, we've been
missing each other.

She's been gone,
I've been gone,

you've been gone.

We've been so busy
on the road doing shows.

Our 30-year anniversary
is coming up,

so we preparing for that.

A lot of people been posting
about that too.

- Aw, that's nice.
- Y'all trending.

- Yeah, okay.
- See you, I see you.

The shows are cool.

You know, I do what I do,
and I leave.

How are you?
You good?

My mental is good.

- That's good.
- I've been good.

Yo.
- That's good.

In 2017, I was diagnosed
with bipolar depression.

The devil is busy.
- Always, that's his job.

- That's her job.
- I have manic episodes.

I could be happy one day,
and I'll feel, like, a wave,

and then I'm really sad
and deep in depression.

My final straw
for me seeking help was...

I was thinking about
k*lling somebody,

and I knew
that it was an issue.

It was deeper
than I even understood,

so I went to get help,
and I'm glad that I did

'cause I could be in jail
right now.

I've grown so much.
- Yes.

For so long, those seeds
were planted about you,

and I think everybody
sees you like,

"Oh, this the real Coko."

Once I was diagnosed,

I was put on medication,

and the medication
calmed me down a lot.

I've come a long way,
but it's a struggle every day.

You're in that third quarter
of life.

You gotta enjoy this sh...
- Hot damn.

- Y'all are not young.
- Hot damn.

- Sh...
- b*tch, what did you say?

- Y'all not young.
- b*tch, I'm young.

Girl, please, one thing
everybody need to focus...

- I'm young.
- Okay.

And this p*ssy still get wet
like I'm 21.

- b*tch, if you...
- Why?

- Shut the [BLEEP] up!
- You better believe it.

[screams]
Oh, my God!

Tells me I'm not young.

It's turning things I don't
want to think about you.

- I'm 52, but this p*ssy is 21.
- No!

[screams]
[laughs]

Coming up...

You wrong
when you disrespect me.

Okay, I am the fifth member.
- No, Mama.

I'm that silent member

that keep you
and Tocha together!

[soft dramatic music]

[upbeat hip-hop music]

♪ What you know
about respect? ♪

♪ Respect, I got next

You got everything
you need in your suitcase?

I ain't even have no chance
to look at my damn lip.

Well, we gotta hurry up, cuz,

'cause you got
to catch this flight.

♪ You gotta work
till you get it ♪

♪ And grind until
there's nothing left, go ♪

I'm sitting at BNA,
Nashville, Tennessee

on my way to Pittsburgh.

My flight was supposed to be
at 9:45, but it's delayed.

♪ 365 just to grind

♪ Yeah, we stay alive

♪ If you don't get it,
then play it one more time ♪

♪ One more time,
I need respect, yeah ♪

♪ I need my check, yeah



Hey, guys,
I am in Pittsburgh.

It is almost showtime.

I'm rushing 'cause
we're supposed

to be downstairs at 6:45,

but, of course,
I didn't get here till 5:00...

what...
5:30?



So I was in the airport
since 8:30.

We didn't land till 3:50,

so yeah,
I'ma be up there a zombie.

[laughter]

In the '90s,
we were in our 20s.

You could sleep as long
as you wanted to.

You could eat whatever you
wanted to and not gain weight,

not have to worry about
acid reflux.

I need you
to make some noise!

Now, touring,
you need to rest.

You need to eat right.

You have to be very careful
about what you do.

I'm even more excited
right now.

- Oh, my God.
- What up, man?

I'm good.

I feel extremely blessed
that, after all of these years,

we still get to do shows
and people still wanna see us.

SWV!

♪ Oh

♪ Oh, hey

♪ Oh, oh

♪ Hey, oh



[knocks]

[sighs]
[doorbell chimes]

Come in.

Are you okay?

I'm glad to see you.

You're glad to see me.

You're sure?
- Mm-hmm.

Tamika,
I'm happy to see you too.

- Well, I cooked.
- You cooked?

Mm-hmm, I made your favorite
salmon and cabbage.

Oh, you made
our plates already.

I just wanted
to make things right.

The last time we talked,
it really broke my heart.

You know they stole my money!

Ain't nobody
stole your money!

But you know they did!

You tell me
what is really going on

between you, me, and Tocha.

Because you always
show favoritism, Mama.

It's been...
- I show favoritism?

Yes, ma'am.

In what way
do I show favoritism?

You allow her
to express herself.

When I...

I allow her
to express herself because

she do not come at me
in a disrespectful way.

When it comes
to Xscape business,

you are not the fifth member.

You wrong
when you disrespect me.

You wrong when you talk to me
in that kind of way.

Okay, I am the fifth member.

When I first put
that microphone in your hand

when you was a little girl,
I am the fifth member.

When your daddy
walked out on me,

and then he didn't care whether
we swam or sank,

I am the fifth member!
How about that?

I think a lot
of our mom's hurt

comes from her
and my father's divorce.

She was a housewife,

and when they broke up,

it was like
we had to struggle.

We went through a lot.

I really don't think
she healed from that.

I don't deserve disrespect
on no level!

I feel like I get beat up on

because,
when my mom looks at me,

she see my dad.
I'm a daddy's girl.

We act just alike.

I'm that silent member that
keep you and Tocha together.

No, Mama.

That show you right,
tell you right and wrong,

whether you want
to believe it or not.

You always tell me
I'm wrong, Mama.

You that fifth member
that tells me I'm wrong.

Tamika,
somebody got to tell you.

But I'm not always wrong, Mama.

- Tocha is crushed since you...
- No, she's not.

- She...
- No, she's not.

You done talking
about her husband.

Only time
I say anything about him,

when he insert himself
into my business.

Tamika, if you can sleep
at night...

- If I can sleep at night?
- Yes.

He in my business.

He taking money
from me and my family,

but if I can sleep at night?

Ain't nobody
taking money from you.

As hard as you going
for them,

I wish you would go
as hard for me.

Well, I brought you
here today.

You said I disrespected you,

and I'm sorry
for disrespecting you.

But if you can't
respect me as an adult

and my feelings,
then I'ma have to step back.

Step back?
What you mean?

'Cause I can't keep
getting beat up on.

I've been getting beat up
my whole life.

Tamika, look at me.
Look at me.

[soft dramatic music]

I'm your mom.
Look at me.



I love you.

Always have,
and always will.

And if you feel like that
I've been less than a mom

to you
and more of a mom to Tocha,

well, then I'm sorry.

Look at me.

I'm here for you.

You hear me?

I love you more than anything.

[tender music]



I love my mother,
but for the first time,

I put my foot down.

You my baby girl.
You always will be.

Hopefully
we can move forward

to have a healthy, adult,
respectful relationship.

I love you.

♪ Tonight

Coming up...

I ran into Tocha.

She was in Nashville
meeting with Motown,

looking into some options.

This is a repeat of history.

♪ Ladies

♪ How often do you have

♪ A man that makes you
want to cry ♪

I would go down
to the gas station

to get my lottery ticket...
[laughs]

I can't with you.

But I invited my friend Taj
over here.

That sound familiar.
Who is that?

You know my friend Taj.
She's in a group SWV.

You guys met her when, like,
you was really young.

I do remember.

I think it was, like,
a studio session.

- Yes.
- Yeah.

I remember sitting there
all night

listening to the same song.

Taj is definitely the person
that I'm the closest with.

We used to keep in touch a lot
for a long time.

I used to always check on her
'cause she's a Taurus like me,

and so yeah, like,

I always thought
she was just super cool.

In the meantime,
can you please look up

what time is the cutoff for me

to get my
billion dollar ticket?

[upbeat music]

Ooh.



[car beeps]

[door beeps]

Hello!
- Hey, hi!

- Hello, beautiful.
- What's up?

Good to see you.
Oh, hi, how are you?

- This is Kenyatta.
- I do hugs.

- I'm a little wet.
- Oh, it's all right.

That's all right.
I take baths, so it's all good.

- You want anything to drink?
- You know what?

I'll take some water.

So how did you enjoy
your trip to Africa?

Well, I had so much fun.

We did a safari.

Hi, elephant.

Oh.
There you go, trunk up.

You just get him, baby.
Get him, baby.

We stopped at this little
lion cub sanctuary.

They were so cute.
- Oh, wow.

They were so cute.
I love animals.

What were y'all doing
while we were gone?

Y'all had a chance to converse
and love on each other?

- Not quite.
- [laughs]

I ran into someone you know.
- Who?

- Tocha, she was in Nashville.
- Tocha who?

She was there
meeting with Motown.

She said she wants
to do some gospel.

She's just looking into
some options.

[soft dramatic music]

Really?

Like, this is a repeat
of history.

When we were younger...
- Mm-hmm.

When she first came
to tell us

that she was about
to do her solo thing,

she did the same thing.

She started treating us,
like, real wack

and having that ego thing.

She didn't really want to say
she was out the group.

And it really was just because
she wanted to...

- A safety net.
- A safety net.

'Cause she didn't really care.



I can relate because,
when SWV was going through

all our turmoil,
that's what Coko did.

She shopped a deal
and took off.

I was pissed.

We'd love to have her there...
- Mm-hmm.

But the vision don't stop
because she's not there.

Why don't y'all come down
to our rehearsal next week?

We need to make a decision
if we gonna do it or not,

and since y'all
are willing to go on,

I say let's start
being creative at this point.

- I say the same thing.
- Let's do this.

Let's do this.
- Let's make it happen.

Let's make it happen.

Mmm.

[laughter]

My girl.

[upbeat music]

♪ Are you ready?

♪ I let it go, I let it go

♪ I don't have time
for any haters ♪

♪ Yeah, you know

What is this place
you got me?

A coffee and wine bar.



- Hello.
- Hi.

- How are you?
- Welcome in.

Welcome to Sulit.

I'm actually gonna
have me some green tea.

Some green tea, okay.

- Can I do a Corona too?
- Sure.

Would you like for him
to be your step-daddy?

You have to relax,
like, right now.

Chill.
- He looks nice.

You too gangster for that.
You too gangster for him.

I have two children,

Margaret and Khiry.

We have
a pretty dope relationship,

but I'm not friends
with my kids at all.

That sh... sound good,
and, oh, we're best friends,

and...no.
You know what?

You get the wings,
and I'ma have

the burger... of life?
- Kay.

They play around
with me sometimes,

be like, "Leanne, LeLee."
I ignore they a*s.

No, that's...use the name
that you met me by,

you was taught
when you was a kid.

Mom, Mommy.

So I like you representing
the S-S-W-W to the V.

You know I had to do it
for the one time, you knoW?

No, I like it.

'Cause, you know,
my aunties and y'all

do y'all thing.
- We do.

We do our thing-thing.
- Y'all have it.

Well, I'll put you
against anybody.

Your music is sick now.
You know?

My son is actually
a very talented rapper.

And I'm not just saying that
'cause he's my son.

I'm saying that
because it's true.

Now it's all about

what are you
gonna do different?

Like, grind season,

it's time up
for the extra stuff.

It is grind season.

He is solely relying on me
and my resources

to push his music through.

Of course, if I can make it
a little easier for you,

but I'm not opening the door.

You're gonna have
to open the door like I did.

That's my thing too.

Like, right now,
it's all about hustle mode.

Right.

I'm just on my grind
right now.

Mm-hmm.
You pressing the button.

I got "The Many Faces
of Sister Hot p*ssy."

What is that?

- It's the erotica audiobook.
- Sex books.

And erotica love stories.

Any personal experiences
in these books?

No, no.

Sister Hot p*ssy

is my alter ego,

but she's confident,
she's sexy,

she doesn't care
what people think about her.

Women, we hold so much back

when it comes to sexuality,

and there's a market
out there for it.

The first book that I wrote
was my biography.

That was more sad,
so I wanted to do something

a little bit more fun,
a little bit more risqué.

Nobody wants to imagine
their grandmother

in the missionary position.

[laughs]

What the [BLEEP]?
I'm just...

I don't want to imagine you
in no missionary position, sis.

Don't, don't, don't.

I like it.
You tapping into your creative.

I'm setting myself up
so that I can be a better me.

I don't want to just be
the girl from SWV.

- Yeah.
- That ain't enough for me.

Yeah.

I went through
a lot of sh... by myself.

A lot of stuff,
y'all didn't even really know.

I kept it away, which is what
I felt like a mother should do.

When we broke up in 1998,

it was a pretty tough time.

I no longer
was making any money.

I didn't have
anything coming in.

You were living in your car.

Yeah, I had some nights,
some very cold nights

in my car, yeah.

I mean, I got to the point

where I was just
gonna end my life.

- Literally.
- Oh, yeah.

It was that bad.

I would drive around
New York City

all night until about 4:30,
5:00 in the morning

because I didn't want
to go to sleep there at night

because I wanted
to limit my chances

of somebody raping me,
so I would wait

until about 5:30
in the morning,

and I would go to sleep in
Yankee Stadium parking lot.

It was rough.
It was rough.

Like, I shouldn't even
be here right now.

I should be dead
and gone right now.

I straight up took control,
and I got my life back.

I went back to school.
I got my GED.

I got a job working in
a office building.

I was in charge of my life.

I was in charge
of my finances.

So it was a struggle,

but I got to the other side
of the rainbow,

and it made one hell of a beast
out of me, honey.

And it was a process,

and that's what
I always tell you.

You can't skip the work.
- Process.

You can't skip the process,
and sometime,

that process,
that sh... is gonna hurt,

but it's okay.

Once you get
on that other side,

you gonna feel good
about yourself.

Yeah.

Coming up...

I don't want
to go back to school.

Are you for real right now?

[upbeat music]

♪ When I think about
all you've done for me ♪

♪ I can't keep it to myself

♪ I want
the whole world to see ♪

♪ You're loving me,
protecting me ♪

♪ And keeping me from harm,
but when this world is crazy ♪

♪ I'm safe in your arms,
and it's a fact ♪

Being in the studio,
that's, like, my safe haven.

I find it very therapeutic
if I'm trying

to get something off my chest,
or if I just want to sing.

I do that a lot,
just freeing my mind

and just being LaTocha.



Stop it for me real quick.

So I'll just go back
and do the ad-libs again.

So can you give me
a ad-lib track?

I've had a meeting with Motown.

I think that we see
tremendous value

in what you've shared so far
in terms of your vision,

and we see a space for you.

- Yeah!
- I cannot.

I cannot.
What?

- Yeah!
- Please stop.

And although
I haven't signed yet,

this is a new chapter for me.

See, I'm about to go down in
my low range still in a minute.

Y'all ain't gonna be able
to mess with me.

Things are about to change.

Yeah.
Okay.

- Yeah.
- All right.

♪ Don't ever change
'cause you're ♪

♪ Everything, everything

- ♪ Everything
- ♪ Everything, everything

- [vocalizing] ♪ All right
- ♪ All right, all right

♪ All right, all right,
all right, yeah ♪

- ♪ All right
- ♪ Everything

♪ Everything, everything

- ♪ You're gonna make it
- ♪ All right, all right

- ♪ All right
- ♪ All right, all right

♪ Yeah
- ♪ All right, all right

♪ Every...
I cannot.

So you came in here dancing.
That's a good sign.

Yeah, we boppin' to it.
Look here, anime.

I'ma need you to come
from your stomach, okay?

Don't do it.

I'ma need you to get it out
'cause we gotta go...

we got a lot of shows
to do now.

We gotta go now.

I guess we're gonna take
a minute, you guys.

Yeah, I'm coming
in the booth.

Rocky in the booth.

Hey, y'all,
I might get on the mic.

If I get on the mic,
shut it down.

You know what I'm saying?
Go plug in.

Plug you in.
We here though.

We got you.
[laughter]

I really should
get on the mic.

- You really should?
- One time.

- What you gonna do, rap?
- Nah, I never rap.

What's going on?
- What's happening?

Nothing, just had to pop in
on your session...

Right.

See what y'all doing
up heres.

Working.

I got a text message
from Kandi.

You know, she said that SWV is
doing some type of rehearsal,

and she wants us all to come
so we can talk about a show.

- So are you going?
- I don't know.

It's obvious
that what's happened

with you and Tamika
is affecting you.

I know.

Does she want y'all
to get back?

I mean, it's obvious she don't

because she's accusing me
of something.

When you and Rocky stole
my mother.....ing money,

you didn't say nothing!

Once again, I forgive her,
but I don't get it.

Have you talked to Xscape
about what it is you're doing?

I have not.

I'm keeping quiet
about this solo album

because a lot of times,
when I tell people

how, you know,
things are going for me,

it doesn't always work,
so it's okay

for me to wait
till the ink dries

'cause I don't want to put
the cart before the horse.

Think about it.

If you want to go, go.

If anything,
go grab the microphone

and remind 'em
of who the hell you are.



[sighs]

♪ I'm so fresh,
I'm so clean ♪

♪ Pull up on 'em
with a gangster lean ♪

♪ I'm so fresh

Ooh.

♪ When I walk in the room,
I get picked ♪



What's going on, y'all?

It's your boy Jayye Michael
here to let you guys know

that I have a new single
coming out.

I'ma sing a little snippet
for y'all.

Y'all know how I do.

♪ Me and you could never be

♪ Why can't you see

♪ All the things
you've done to me? ♪

♪ Made it harder for me
to love and trust someone ♪

Hey!
Shut up with that noise.

You know I'm doing a video, right?

Oh, my bad.
[laughs]

Come, come.
Come talk to your mama.

[laughter]

You.
- My seat.

You so wack.
What's going on, bruh?

- Nothing much, just chilling.
- You sound good.

- I do?
- You sound all right.

- I get it from you.
- Oh, what you want?

[laughs]

I did see this Balenciaga bag.

Yeah, I ain't getting it.

We're mother and son,
but we're like best friends.

That line gets blurred.

You need to just go ahead
and be this beautiful dentist

that you're gonna be.

That way, you can buy
your own Balenciaga.

He's like
my little bro best friend.

That's what I call him.
[laughs]

See, that's what I want
to talk to you about.

What?

I don't want
to go back to school.

What?

I want to work on
my creativity

and that type of stuff.

I don't...dentistry
doesn't interest me, Mama.

Dentistry does interest you.
It does.

How you gonna tell me
what interests me?

'Cause I'm your mother,
and I know what's what.

You went to school for a year.

You got amazing grades.

You kicked butt
without even trying.

Now you talking about
you don't want

to go back to school
'cause you want to sing?

Yeah.

You gonna go back to school
because I'm paying for it.

You need to get a education.

I never got a chance
to go to college.

Your brother
didn't go to college.

You can sing on the weekends
or something.



The entertainment business
is not easy.

They'll love you today,
and they'll hate you tomorrow.

That could be your side job,
but you should go to school.

If you're not strong,

you can just
mentally lose it all.

And there's not a lot
of Black dentists, Jayye.

Like, it's amazing, like...
- I get it.

But I'm not gonna sacrifice
my happiness

to make
everybody around me happy.

[tense music]

Are you for real right now?

You still gotta tell Grandma.

Okay.

- Good luck.
- Let's call her.

Jalen and my mom,

they have
an amazing relationship.

Growing up,
when I was on the road,

she helped take care
of Jayye,

and they would just have
a good time.

Like, she was
his old best friend.

I don't know
if you can know

definitely where
you're gonna really go

because you're 19.
- Right.

[line trilling]

Hi, Grandma.

Jalen has some bad news
to tell you.

[soft dramatic music]

So I was talking to Mom,

and I was pretty much
just letting her know

how I didn't want
to go back to school.

Ooh.

You know, it's just
not really my thing.

[clicks tongue]
Tell him, T.



I just don't feel like
I should be doing something

that I don't want to do.

[sniffles]

Right,
that's what I'm saying.

He wanted to do it.

Now, all of a sudden,
he doesn't want to do it.

He just started singing yesterday.

Now he wants to stop
to go sing?

If I don't want
to do something,

I don't feel like I should be
forced to do something.

Oh, Jalen.

Mommy, he is crying.

[tender music]



How about
I just take a year off,

see where I go from there,
and decide after that year?

Dang, you ain't do this
with me when I wanted to sing.

I'm being punked.

Like, you are not the same lady
I knew growing up.

No.

When I was quitting school,
she would leave notes

all around the house,
"You need to get a job."

She would just leave
these Post-it...

these sticky notes
all over the place,

and I'm like, "Mom, I got you."

Mm.

I will.

[sighs]
All right, girl.

Hang up.
[line beeps]

[growls]
Jalen.

Child, you done pissed me off.

[dramatic music]

[sighs]

♪ Boy, there you go

♪ You're telling me

♪ That you love me

[SWV's "I'm So Into You"]

♪ I'm so into you

♪ Ooh, yeah

[together]
♪ I don't know what

♪ I'm gonna do

♪ Ooh, what am I
supposed to do? ♪

[groovy R music]

♪ I'm so into you

- Nice, nice, nice.
- Whoo!

Oh.
Great job, ladies.

Great job.
- [laughs] Damn.

- What's going on?
- You know.

We got the meeting
coming up again

with the ladies of Xscape,

and we have
other tour opportunities

for next year as well, so...
- Yay.

Like, we gotta get
to the bottom of this today

and go, "Are we doing this?"
Or "Are we not doing this?"

'Cause we can do other things.

Dan has talked
to the promoter,

and he only has one day
available for the venue,

and that's a month away,

so we gotta figure
this sh... out.

I had a little conversation
with Kandi.

Sounds to me like
they're ready to go

with or without Tocha.

I'm just hoping
that it all works out,

and if it doesn't,

we would have loved
to have Tocha,

but if not,
we gotta get this going

'cause she can't stop history.
- Agree.

[energetic
hip-hop instrumental]

Hey, girl.
What's up?

On my way
to the meeting now.

Can't wait to hear
what SWV is talking about.

I really want to see
what this show could be.

It would be great if we
could have all four girls.

It'll be awesome.

And it'll be
an amazing show,

we already know, but...

True.

Yes, I did.

I told Tiny that Tocha
was planning to go solo.

- I ran into someone you know.
- Who?

Tocha.

She was there meeting
with Motown.

Whatever solo sh...
is not gonna hinder her

from coming in here,

doing what she got to do
with us.

No, she didn't tell me
she was shopping a solo deal.

We didn't know
anything about it.

We just kept getting
a resistance from her

to where every time we tried
to sit down and have a meeting,

she's either walking out
or she has nothing to say.

I'm not excited
about going on tour.

We got a lot of internal issues
that we gotta deal with.

We have to be able to mend it
at this point.

We're really not done
with the business stuff.

We need to talk.

We can't get anywhere.

I kind of feel like
that was an excuse

because she already knew

she had
this solo project coming up.

[SWV's "Anything" playing]

♪ Like that, like that

- ♪ It's like that, y'all
- ♪ Check it out one time

- ♪ It's like that, y'all
- ♪ We're SWV

[together]
♪ We in the house, y'all



♪ Kaboom, guess who
stepped in the room ♪

- ♪ The S
- ♪ The W

♪ W-V



Whoo-hoo!

Give me some love and sugar.
Give me some loving.

- Hi.
- Give me some of that loving.

Ah!
- Hey, boo-boo, how you doing?

- Hi, baby girl.
- Ah!

Hey, boo-boo.
- Don't you look cute?

Always got your t*tties out.
- Hi.

- Girl.
- Hi.

[laughter]

What's up, superstar?
Hey.

Hey, we got the same idea,
or what?

- Okay.
- I love it.

- Purple today.
- What's up, baby?

Look at you.
You looking like a genie.

- Mwah.
- You look beautiful.

Well, come here.
On at 1:00.

- That's right.
- What's up with you?

Not much, baby.
Okay, pictures.

I've been...
right.

- Oh, hello, hello.
- Hey, hey, hey, hey.

- Hi.
- Hey, ladies.

- Hello, hi.
- Hey.

Although my sister
and I haven't talked,

I'm walking in
with an open mind.

- How y'all doing?
- Hi.

Look, I got my heels on.

This would be important
for the culture,

two girl power groups
that come together

on one stage to perform,
and today,

I'm gonna look past
all the drama.

What's going on, y'all?
How y'all been?

How's everything been going?

I'm so happy everybody's here.

We really didn't
get anything done

in the last
little get-together,

so today we need to talk about
what we plan to do

moving forward.

[energetic music]

What about one show,
one big-a*s night

of SWV, Xscape onstage together
doing a hot-a*s collaboration?

What do y'all say?
Everybody put their hands in!



Okay.



Here we go.

You're not gonna put
your hand in?

[tense music]

Shorty 2.40, what?
What are you doing now?

Wait?
Everybody is in.

- Come on, team.
- That's right, that's right!

That's right!
- We're all too short.

Everybody's hand in.
[overlapping chatter]

We gonna see
how this work out.

SWV, Xscape collaboration, creatively.

And we definitely love y'all.

We love y'all to be able
to do this show.

After weeks of going
back and forth,

we finally
get to do the fun part.

Yes!
Oh, my gosh.

Thank you.
Thank you, thank you.

[sighs]

Obviously, we have
a truncated timeline

to do this one-off show.
- What's the timeline?

So, I mean, we're looking at
doing the show

in the next month
to test it out.

I mean, I guess
we have to ask, like,

the obvious because,
I mean, last tour we did,

we were headlining
our own tour.

So how is this gonna go
when it comes to billing?



[soft dramatic music]

Last tour we did, we were
headlining our own tour.

So how is this gonna go
when it comes to billing?



I mean, I think it needs
to be coheadlining.

That avoids
any feelings, issues.

I just think it needs to be...

you have two
legendary R groups.

It should be coheadlining
to keep it moving.

- And it's collaborative.
- Well, see, that's the...

I mean,
I hear what you're saying,

but at the same time,
like, our group,

we still feel like
we want to still have

top billing on our tour.

What the hell is this?



On your tour.
On your tour?

On any tours that we're on.

We gonna pass.
[chuckles]



This one, this show,
we should coheadline.

Okay.

Girl, do you know
who you're talking to?

This is SWV.

We've sold how many records
compared to your 7 million?

Girl, bye.

It's really a celebration.
It's not about egos.

It's not about my tour,
your tour.

It's a celebration
of all of us together.

Y'all don't want
to coheadline?

I mean, that wasn't really
what we were thinking

about doing before,
and this is not having

anything to do
with you guys personally.

Don't get me wrong.
- No, no, no, go ahead.

No disrespect to y'all.
We love y'all.

We love y'all music,
and we respect y'all.

You know what I mean?

But realistically, we have
been headlining our shows...

- Since you came back...
- Right.

- As a group, yeah.
- Right.

SWV, major hits,
but do they have the fanbase

or the following that we have?
No.

People watch me, Kandi
on TV doing our thing.

Then they find out,
"Oh, these girls sing?"

So that fanbase is millions

and millions and millions
of followers more.

That's fine,
and what I'm saying is

this is one night.

When y'all do your tour,
you can headline all day,

but for this one night,
we need to coheadline.

In the '90s,
Xscape never headlined.

Coming back,
10 or 15 years later,

whenever they came back
and Kandy and Tiny has

this whole reality television
audience now,

yes, that is the reason Xscape
is able to headline.

It's just
the business part of it,

I think, that she's
making a stand...

So...wait, wait.
So the business meeting,

you all want to be paid more
than us.

What I'm saying is,
like, say for instance,

like, when you see two people
on a situation together,

and that person's name,
whether that person

got first on the title

or their title
is a little bit larger,

whatever,
we already know how that goes.

So it can be co,

but you want a bigger letter
is what you're saying?



Okay, so what we doing?
'Cause I'm ready to go.

- I'm going to the bathroom.
- I'ma go with you then.

Come on, let's go pee together
'cause I'm ready to go.

I don't want to say
that it feels like a nightmare,

but it feels like a nightmare.

Oh, my God, I can't take

another second
of this stupid-a*s sh...

I didn't expect for things
to be so difficult.

[sighs]
Sh... is a headache.

- I ain't doing that sh...
- [laughs]

I.....ing ain't opening
for no mother.....er.

I sold 30 million records, b*tch.

- Well, wait...
- Listen.

No...ain't no ifs,
no ands, no buts...

- No, no, no.
- No suppose, nothing.

Neither of us are gonna
argue with you on this.

Not a mother.....er.

Yeah, I mean,
clearly that can't happen.

I ain't no.....ing opener.
Are you crazy?

That went kind of left,
you know what I'm saying?

Because it was not...

I guess, the proper way to,
I guess,

bring it out at the time.

We don't have but a month
to try to do this show.

I just think
it's a disrespect.

It's a disrespect because
we've laid down the ground

for you to come out.

That back there is just...
- Yeah.

It's just, like,
I don't even know

about the one show.
- Sheesh.

Like, it's some
next-level sh...

If we can't agree on this,

then there will be
no SWV and Xscape show,

period.



Next on
"The Queens of R"...

- Jayye, dentist!
- I was not happy.

Was it people's breaths when
you was in those cavities?

It would be dope if y'all
could bring out some horses.

We ain't bringing no horses
in the Toyota Center.

Why not?
Bring the horses.

So have we figured out,

are we headlining, coheadlining?

I just want to know before,
like, we had this

full-fledged conversation,
and everybody's happy-go-lucky,

but I needs to know.

Tocha is...
she hasn't been cooperative,

collaborative.
- What's her reasoning?

Well, from my understanding,

she has a gospel deal
right now.

Where is Tocha?
- She's not coming.

I hate to say that.
- Like, come on!

She's Gladys Knight,
and we the Pips!

That's what the [BLEEP]
is happening right now.