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01x01 - The Campus r*pist

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Monsters Inside: The 24 Faces of Billy Milligan". Aired: September 22, 2021.*
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Billy Milligan was arrested in 1977 for a series of robberies, kidnappings, and r*pes of three women on the Ohio State University campus.

01x01 - The Campus r*pist

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I do things and I don't remember them.

Because I'm asleep.

And people tell me I do things

bad things.

What kind of things

do they tell you that you do?

Criminal stuff.

In Columbus, Ohio,

the doctors told a court,

the defendant in a r*pe charge,

is a psychiatric curiosity,

He's been in

what's called a psychological coma,

unable to control his own emotions.

He is charged with

r*pe, robbery and kidnapping.

The r*pe of three women

on the Ohio State campus.

He was the infamous "campus r*pist."

I wouldn't say arrested, I'd say rescued.

They started

bringing in doctor after doctor

and discovered what was wrong with me.

Well, among the physical,

there was emotional abuse.

And it's so hard to describe.

It was just It was like living in horror.

The Billy Milligan case

is a one-in-a-million outcome, I think.

Didn't even realize

what was going on at the time.

Somebody trying to talk to me.

What are they trying to say?

I can't really understand them.

I can't hear them now.

Well, I can hear and know they're there.

Is it a hoax? Has he been faking it?

He should have an Academy Award.

- For what?

- For the performance he's put on.

I don't believe he's a con man.

He should not be out.

He is a menace to women.

He should be in prison

where rapists belong.

A lot of people did see

Billy Milligan as a monster,

and he probably did

have monsters inside of him.

- Brilliant.

- Talented.

- Disturbed.

- Damaged.

Manipulative. Dangerous.

You don't know the real Billy Milligan.

Milligan ran away on Friday.

He is now searched all over the state.

When that medication runs out,

he could, uh, fragment

and then become very dangerous.

He was the most creative criminal.

What about the victims?

So much attention on him,

but what about them?

Billy had no feelings

for any other person.

Is that the people

that lady told me was inside of me?

What are they doing in there?

In the dark side, I am waiting ♪

Even sane, I am waiting ♪

As a child, I remember ♪

Daddy, daddy, all alone ♪

Geographically,

Ohio State campus is a sprawling place.

There are several ovals,

lots of buildings,

and in the mid-70s, looked like a campus

just coming out from the Vietnam w*r.

People were trying

to grapple with all of those topics

and the fairness.

There were a lot of

social justice equality issues,

not only for men but for minorities.

And justice for women,

especially at that time,

not being objects of fear

and having the ability to walk freely

around campus and feel safe.

I, Jimmy Carter, do solemnly swear

that I will faithfully execute the office

of President of the United States.

She and three accomplices,

known as the g*ng of Four

or the Shanghai Mafia,

tried to stage a coup

against Chairman Hua after Mao's Death.

Baby, I want you

Come ♪

Star Wars is simply

a cosmic comic book movie.

There was considerable attention

given earlier this year to the charges

A twenty-three-year-old

Columbus, Ohio man

Sexual assaults on four women

in the Ohio State University area.

October '77

was when the incidents occurred.

There was a series of r*pes

in a short period of time

related to the Ohio State campus.

The victims

were all, obviously, females.

They were all young.

They were all good-looking.

Rumors were running rampant

about the number of r*pes

and where they were occurring,

time of day, time of night,

different descriptions.

There were sketches of the perpetrator.

We saw this person everywhere.

People wore caps, glasses.

A lot of the young men

tried to wear beards.

People were really afraid,

especially the women.

A sense of anxiety,

people looking over their shoulder.

When was this person going to strike next?

The r*pes happened

in such quick succession.

This lasted only 12 days.

There wasn't much time between them

for people to catch their breath

or reflect.

People were genuinely afraid.

The first victim was parked

in one of the university parking areas

and was approached by the individual.

Usually, victims in that circumstance

try and listen to their, uh, kidnapper

and avoid doing anything

that might cause their death.

There was a nurse, similarly

in and around October, as well,

who was exiting, uh,

her shift, going to her car.

And again, he kidnapped her

and assaulted her sexually.

The third r*pe occurred

about a block behind the dormitory

that I was living in.

And I believe that the first two r*pes

happened by the medical center,

which was quite a ways away

from where we were,

and there was somewhat of

a false sense of security

until it happened a block from us,

and it lent to the feeling

that this could happen

anywhere, anytime to anyone.

The fourth victim was

an office worker here, downtown Columbus.

He did not take her anywhere.

The sexual act occurred

in that parking lot.

In each case, he was trying to,

you know, get money from them too.

So, it was r*pe and a robbery

at the same time.

The "campus r*pist"

attracted a lot of attention

because, it wasn't that

he was the most prolific serial r*pist,

but that he was

a little bit idiosyncratic.

He had to have some charm.

I think one of his victims

he persuaded that he needed a ride.

So, the guy had something about him

that was disarming to some extent.

May have been trying to establish

a relationship of some sort,

in a kind of a twisted way.

The so-called "campus r*pist"

terrified that area of town.

Women of Ohio, be warned that

there is a r*pist free on the streets.

The campus organized volunteers

to walk women from libraries,

or from the dorms to eat, or other points,

night classes, for instance, and back

so that people felt safe.

Often, the physical description you get

is close and as honest

as it can possibly be,

but because of the emotion,

you know, that's involved,

there are variations from time to time.

We were convinced from the information

and the method of operation,

if you will, the MO,

that we were dealing with one person.

Fortunately, the women

were able to take the police

to some of the locations

where these things occurred

and they were able

to dig up various evidence.

He left fingerprints

in one of the vehicles.

There were fingerprints

on the inside windshield of the car.

The Identification Bureau

at the Columbus Police Department

was able to make

a check and identification

with a suspect

whose fingerprint was on file with them.

The pieces came together,

actually, fairly well when you

think of the evidence that was available.

And so, because of

a previous criminal experience

where fingerprints were taken,

there was a record of,

you know, the identity.

The name came out to be Billy Milligan.

He had a record

with the Columbus Police Department,

uh, because he had

done time in Ohio prison,

and he actually had done some time

in the Ohio Youth Commission,

which is

a juvenile correction system here in Ohio.

There were some previous

mug shots or pictures taken.

Some of the victims verified, in fact,

that this was the person.

We had fingerprint evidence.

We had identification.

We had, um, statements from the witnesses.

They ex*cuted a search warrant

at Mr. Milligan's residence.

And we went to that address,

which is on the far east side of Columbus.

He said something like,

"Look out for the b*mb."

Well, that obviously

gets your immediate attention.

I was working

night police beat on that night,

I believe it was October 26th, 1977, um

and I picked up on the police scanner

a b*mb threat.

So, we called the fire department

to ensure that there was nothing there,

and, obviously, it was a housing area

and there were other people,

so we don't want anything to happen.

Then the fire department responded.

No device was found.

Nothing nothing that was expl*sive.

They said the b*mb was a fake b*mb,

which was pretty simple,

wires and batteries, like in a shoe box.

It wasn't going to fool anybody.

They were able to find in the apartment

driver's licenses.

Trophies, as it were,

from some of the victims.1

The first thing that caught my eye

were the number of paintings.

Excellent, just really first-class art.

And the first thought as an investigator:

Are they his or are they stolen?

It seemed like he was fairly submissive

and it was not, like, a difficult arrest.

Never said a word.

Nothing that it was a denial,

nothing that it was a claim of,

"You got the wrong person."

Nothing, just silence.

They were confident they had their man.

I'm sure they didn't realize

the complexities of the case

as it would unfold.

The first time

we heard about Milligan

was the night he was arrested.

The next day it made front page news,

and there was

a great sigh of relief in Columbus,

especially in the university area.

This guy had been

taken off the streets, finally,

after terrorizing that whole neighborhood

about a mile north of the downtown area.

When a suspect was arrested,

there was an audible sigh

throughout campus.

People felt that it went very quickly

and they were grateful,

but I also know

that some people were a little suspicious,

like, "Is this the right person?"

A 23-year-old Columbus, Ohio man

William Milligan

had been charged with r*pe

robbery and kidnapping.

My mother called me and said,

"Your brother has been arrested

for being the Ohio State campus r*pist."

I probably didn't believe it as well.

I think I said, "There's got to be

some kind of a mistake here."

Nobody's family wants to admit

their child

or their husband or their brother

could do such a thing.

I think it's

a natural reaction of families

to not want to believe that.

The reaction in the community, I think,

was shock more than anything else.

Something that happened

in their little town

and things like that didn't happen.

I was in utter shock

because I knew Billy Milligan growing up

and I knew he was not

capable of any of this.

I knew in my heart

that they had to be wrong.

I think

my brother is in trouble,

but I didn't

I didn't know what to do.

I was a kid, you know,

I was just a young adult.

I had no idea how to deal with it.

The arraignment was, like,

really soon after the arrest.

So, I went to the arraignment

and they brought him in

and he was just so messed up.

He was just that, "I don't have a clue

about what's going on here."

You could see it in his face.

He was absolutely clueless

about what was happening.

Under Ohio law,

nobody can be prosecuted for a felony

unless they're indicted by the grand jury.

And the grand jury is a body of people.

They meet in secret,

and their job is to determine

whether or not there's enough evidence

to charge somebody.

When a defendant is charged by indictment,

he will either retain a lawyer

or lawyers will be appointed for him.

In this case,

I believe he was found indigent,

which means he had no money,

and by law he was

entitled to representation.

Judy Stevenson and Gary Schweickart

were the public defenders

assigned to his case.

Judy Stevenson and Gary Schweickart

were two of the best attorneys

I've ever met.

Not only their compassion

and their intelligence,

they were so well respected.

Gary was a very unique individual.

He had a knowledge

of how you could look at your case

and how you could find something in it,

no matter how difficult it appears.

He would find something

and he could turn that case around

to where he could talk a jury

into accepting that his client

was not guilty,

no matter what it looked like.

And Judy, uh, we did call her "Sweet Judy"

because one thing that she could do

was go talk to a judge,

and before you know it,

her client's on probation.

He's not going to prison.

She was very low-key but very effective.

She and she had a great presence.

She was an attractive woman

who was very effective in front of jurors.

Together they made a very good team.

Everyone knew

that when they said something

that it could be trusted

and taken to the bank.

Gary then went over to the jail,

met Billy, I think, for the first time,

and advised him

not to answer any questions

because he expected some police

to be down there and try to question him.

And as a good

criminal defense lawyer, he told him,

"Don't talk to the people,

don't waive your rights."

He was extraordinarily confused.

He had no idea what he had done

and doesn't understand what's going on,

doesn't know from day to day

what's happening.

Gary went over and talked to him

and became convinced

that there was something there.

Judy and Gary

spent a lot of time with Billy.

They didn't understand

what was happening,

but they knew that

they had seen something odd.

They were dealing with a person

that was not typical.

I was then an employee of

Southwest Community Mental Health Center

in the forensic psychiatry department

and we were a group

that did competency evaluations

and sanity evaluations

for the criminal court.

We also were called upon if there

was an emergency down at the jail.

So, we did get a call from the jail

and the call involved

Billy having pulled a urinal,

I believe it was,

off of the wall of his cell,

using the porcelain slivers

to try and slash his wrists.

And he was so scared.

It was like this little boy was cross

across the screen from me.

And he said, "I don't know why they're

saying I've done all these things."

Judy and Gary told me and taught me

that you remain open

to all possibilities on a criminal case,

that no two are the same,

even if it's the same charge.

You have different defendants

with different backgrounds

and experiences.

And most cases in criminal court,

they're not black and white.

There's a big gray area

where people's experiences

and abilities come into play.

Whenever he had

pencil and paper available, he would draw.

All of the drawings that he made

when he was in the Franklin County Jail

were different in subject matter

and very different in skill levels.

Some of his artwork

started coming out

with the rag doll.

Hanging rag doll.

Because no one understood what is that.

That alerted the public defenders

that this person is likely to be suicidal

and doesn't understand what's going on.

And that's when I think

they were starting to try to figure out

this person may not be capable

to participate in his own defense.

To be competent to stand trial,

you had to meet certain criteria.

And one was you had

to understand the nature of the crime.

You had to understand

the difference between right and wrong,

and you had to be able

to cooperate with your attorney

in the preparation of your own defense.

It was assigned to a particular judge.

In this case,

it was assigned to Judge Flowers.

He was the judge who

basically would handle the case.

He was strict

in the way he ran a courtroom,

but he wasn't unduly strict.

I had a great admiration

for Judge Flowers.

He would enforce the rules of evidence,

the rules of procedure,

but he would let you try your case.

And he treated everybody,

whether whoever you were,

whether you were a prosecution witness

or defendant witness,

he would treat you fairly.

And they were able to talk Judge Flowers,

Judge Jay Flowers,

uh, into having

a psychological evaluation done of him,

and Dorothy Turner

was the forensic psychologist

from Southwest Mental Health

that went over to see Billy.

Spent considerable time with him.

So, she went down and talked to him

and Dorothy Turner came back

and was very puzzled by what she had seen,

and went back

several more times to talk with him.

I believe she attempted

to give him a Rorschach test,

which she was an expert in,

and found the results

to be so disjointed and so confusing

that it rendered it unusable.

He went through, um, several tests,

physical and psychological tests

that revealed significant differences

in his IQ on any given day.

And the results went from

absolute borderline

intellectual functioning

that was almost at a level

of what was then called retardation,

all the way up to being

off the charts in terms of genius level.

One time they had

taken Billy to run some tests on him.

And I think it's called an EEG machine,

that they test the brain waves.

Up until this time, I did not know,

but theoretically, I guess,

there's three different types

of brain waves we have throughout our life

and they change typically by your age.

They'd taken Billy to run some tests

and it showed that

the person that was being tested

was much younger than what Billy was.

And that's when they started saying like

there either something's

wrong with the machine

or this person's brain is doing

different things at different times.

It still bugs me when they call me Billy,

but I don't say much.

I don't say anything really.

But I'm not Billy.

When Dorothy was finished on that session,

she went over and talked to Judy

and she said,

"You've got to talk to your client."

"There's something really,

seriously wrong here."

Judy and Gary

spent a lot of time with Billy.

And I remember him saying,

"I've never seen anything like this.

I'm not sure I ever will again."

Because believe it or not,

different personalities, um,

had different mannerisms

and they would walk differently.

They would hold themselves

differently when they sat.

Um, some had accents.

Once you understood this somewhat

and saw him,

you knew after a while

who you were talking to.

There were obvious times of switching

and changing of personalities

in a very dramatic way.

There was nothing subtle

about what happened when it would happen.

When he would switch,

his eyes would roll back in his head

and then he would

show evidence of nystagmus,

the fluttering of the eyes,

and then suddenly you would find yourself

talking with someone

who seemed completely different.

My mother was not at all surprised.

She was not skeptical.

She had always,

even prior to this, made the comment,

"That's not him. There's two Billys."

"There's this Billy

who does all these bad things

and then there's this Billy."

She's always said that.

There was one time, we were

having something going on downstairs

and the other children

were all the way downstairs

in a kind of a party room.

And Billy was here, and then he came up

and he stood behind the table there.

And Billy asked me why I call him Billy.

And I said, "Well, that was the name

I gave you at birth."

Sometimes it gets frustrating

because they gotta

call your name two or three times

and you're not paying any attention

to what they're saying,

and then it's, "Oh, yeah, I'm Billy."

Dorothy Turner said

she thought there was a possibility

that this individual might be

a multiple personality disorder.

This disorder, multiple personality,

which is also now known as

Dissociative Identity Disorder,

has been around

in modern psychiatry

since the 1800s or earlier.

The best way I can describe it

is to say that we all have

different aspects of our personalities.

And we're pretty familiar with them.

In the case of a multiple,

those aspects have splintered out.

And they've not only

become separate entities,

but they don't necessarily

know about the existence of the others.

So, one of the things

that makes a person with DID

different from most other people

is the discontinuities

that they live with,

that they find themselves places

and they don't remember what they did.

They find that they've done things

and they have no recollection of that.

Whereas most people remember

what they do from place to place to place.

And so, they have a sense

of continuity of existence.

Whereas, the people with DID

often feel like they exist,

and then time goes by

and then suddenly they

find themselves someplace else.

Most people don't understand this disorder

and they think it's

too fantastic to be real.

When Gary Schweickart told me

about these multiple personalities,

I thought it was a joke.

Nobody's more skeptical

than prosecutors, right?

I thought he was desperate,

he was grasping at straws.

Multiple personalities.

Have you ever

seen someone change personalities

right in front of your eyes?

Tonight. Multiple personalities.

Jay!

Seventy-six?

Z-H-A-Y. Zhay.

I still to this day have a hard time

understanding multiple personalities.

How our minds can split like that

and we can have

different characters in our mind

and not understand what we're doing

or know what one is doing.

Usually, if someone

has mental health issues,

they also are examined

for a second, uh, part of a defense

and that would be

"not guilty by reason of insanity."

And so, I think Mr. Milligan

raised both competency to stand trial

and the fact he asked for an examination

to determine whether or not

he was not guilty by reason of insanity.

Judge Flowers had appointed

a well-known,

well-respected doctor, George Harding,

who actually was

associated with the Harding Hospital.

Dr. Harding and Harding Hospital

was the premier mental health hospital

here in this county.

He was highly respected

in the psychiatric, psychological,

mental health community.

Gary Schweickart had been to see me

and had asked if I would be

interested and willing to, uh,

participate in the evaluation.

Gary said that he felt that he was

showing some symptoms of a mental illness

and I indicated that I

would want to see the patient

and evaluate first

before making a decision,

but that I would be willing to do that.

How are you feeling?

I feel nervous.

During the time I was evaluating him,

I, uh, noted

that his behavior, uh, his voice,

his, uh, accent

changed on many occasions.

I presume

that he was under the assumption

he was coming to see a physician,

not a psychiatrist.

She never liked

it before, why should she want it now?

I just feel so damn guilty.

Oh, probably.

In 1978, when I first saw him,

the diagnosis of multiple personality

was not a commonly made diagnosis.

So, it, uh, was something

that I was skeptical about,

and I saw him the first time

with very much of a need

to be shown that this is

this was really a psychiatric disorder.

Dr. George Harding asked me

if I would please interview Billy Milligan

and tell him if I had any opinions

as to whether or not

he met the legal requirements for insanity

at the time of the alleged offenses.

The first time

I heard about Billy Milligan

was from Dr. George Harding

who wanted to know

if I would be willing, uh,

to be the psychotherapist for Billy.

I have to say, at that point,

I was not a hundred percent convinced

of the correctness of that diagnosis.

I had an open mind,

but I wanted to see what would emerge

in the clinical work.

And, so, there was some question:

Was he attempting to, um

make a case

for the multiple personality diagnosis

in order to, um, have an excuse

or to exculpate himself

from the charges that he faced?

Dr. Harding was very adamant

that if I'm manifesting

some kind of thing to avoid trouble,

that he'd be the first one to

to nail me.

I think the skepticism

regarding that diagnosis

involved both the medical

and including the psychiatric community,

certainly also the legal community,

and I believe

with the general public also.

The first important growth

of multiple personality disorder

in the 20th century

happened after The Three Faces of Eve

starring Joanne Woodward.

She won an Academy Award.

And its sequel, in effect,

was the book Sybil,

written by an author,

but in collaboration

with a psychoanalyst and a patient.

There is a rare psychological disorder

called multiple personality.

The book and the movie Sybil

were based on one such case.

I had no knowledge

of multiple personality

or anything before that.

So, I bought myself a copy of Sybil

and started reading

and, um, learned a lot

by reading the book.

I think Judy Stevenson was the one

who indicated to me what it was.

And there was a, uh,

TV show involving Sally Field,

and she said, "If you don't understand

what this is about

you should watch it to see it

to get an idea what we're talking about."

Sybil?

People. The The people

They're everywhere,

they're they're they're everywhere!

None of us had ever diagnosed or treated

a multiple personality disorder before.

We felt like we needed confirmation

by someone who was more familiar

with that diagnosis than we were.

We came to Lexington, Kentucky

to talk with a leading expert

on multiple personalities,

Dr. Cornelia Wilbur.

You may remember Dr. Wilbur

from the widely publicized case

of her patient called Sybil.

- Dr. Wilbur.

- Cornelia Wilbur.

- Cornelia Wilbur.

- She's the doctor for Sybil.

Dr. Cornelia Wilbur,

who is the nationally known psychiatrist

who successfully treated Sybil.

And by successfully treating Sybil,

she was able

to integrate the 16 personalities

into one personality.

We did talk with her

and, uh, she shared with us her experience

treating the one she calls Sybil.

It is so unusual and kind of crazy

to think about someone

having multiple personalities,

that Judy told me

that they allowed the prosecutors

to spend some time with Billy.

On March 12th 1978,

it was a Sunday morning.

We met over at the county jail

and it was myself, Gary Schweickart,

Judy Stevenson, Dr. George Harding

and Dr. Wilbur was there.

The Sheriff's Office was nice enough

to give us their break room

and open it up for us

and, um, they brought Mr. Milligan in.

Billy came in and sat down

and we asked a few questions.

It seemed that, uh,

he was driven by feelings

that he did not fully understand.

I mean, it was probably

like a couple of seconds of stuff

but then all of a sudden

maybe he'd sit differently

or talk with a British accent.

His body language, his posture, his voice,

everything was just spot-on.

Up until that time,

I thought it was a joke,

uh, a charade, it was

I didn't know,

but this was so very convincing to me,

and I came away

with the impression

that if it was fake,

it was a very, very good fake.

I couldn't tell that it was.

Well, it wasn't, uh, something

that was your run-of-the-mill

psychiatric problem.

But we felt that here was a problem,

it was something

that needed to be understood better,

and we felt that, uh,

we had a responsibility

to take the tough cases

as well as the easy ones.

So to speak, he had to give an opinion,

but according to Ohio law

and the way that

psychiatrists and psychologists testified,

Dr. Harding could not say

he was legally insane

or he was not legally insane.

He was asked to determine whether or not

Billy at the time of the offenses

knew right from wrong

and then Dr. Harding

would so report that to the court.

And the court would decide

whether or not to conclude

that he was legally insane

at the time of the offenses.

And so, Dr. Harding

agreed to take him as a patient

and do the psychiatric evaluations,

um, for a period of, like, three months.

Going to Harding Hospital

to be restored to competency

was not normal.

Normally, if people were

to be restored to competency,

they were sent to Lima,

Lima State Hospital

For the Criminally Insane.

But it was felt that Harding

was a safer environment for him.

I think it was Gary and Judy

who were able to say,

"We need to have this guy"

"We need to have our client here

and not clear up in Lima."

And because it was known

as the hell hole here in Ohio.

It was a horrible place.

Evaluating the symptoms

that were presented

made us feel that

it would be worthwhile

to do a thorough evaluation.

So, Dr. Wilbur came to the hospital

and, uh, evaluated Billy Milligan.

Who am I talking to?

- Danny.

- Oh.

How old are you?

- Fourteen.

- Mm-hmm.

Who is around most of the time?

Allen and Tommy.

How old is Allen?

- Eighteen.

- Mm-hmm.

- And how old is Tommy?

- Sixteen

Nobody had the sense

to ask the three questions:

Has anybody ever told you

that you did something

you didn't remember doing?

Have you ever found yourself someplace

and didn't know how you got there?

And have you ever been aware of the fact

that the clock hands

seemed to have gone around

and you didn't know what happened

during that period of time?

Bill Milligan's answers

to those questions were all

Yes.

I felt like she knew what she was doing

and I felt like she knew

how to confirm the diagnosis

that we were looking to get confirmed.

How soon

did you know Billy was a multiple?

Um, oh, I would guess

20 minutes after

the start of the interview,

because by this time I had

talked to three different people

and they had come spontaneously.

But he didn't know.

He didn't know that he was a multiple.

If we're talking about Billy,

the core personality,

did not know that he was a multiple

at that point in time,

and it wasn't easy to reveal at all.

You hearing them now?

I can't hear them now.

Well, I can hear and know they're there.

Is that is that the people that

that lady told me was inside me?

It could be.

What are they doing in there?

Nobody said why these people are here.

Well, one of the skeptical attitudes

is that the DID doesn't exist

until you get into therapy,

then the therapist

asks a whole bunch of questions

and you go,

"Oh, yes. I have people inside."

Well, I think we're a long ways

from really knowing how this works

because it is not under the control

of the individual

or any of the alternates.

By definition, in DID,

there has to be amnesia

and parts that don't know each other.

And when one part comes out,

the other part has no memory

of what happened.

All of the drawings that he made

were different

depending on who was doing the drawing,

which personality was doing the drawing.

And it did help

to understand the different personalities

and what each of those entities was like.

He tended to describe some of the alters.

Some were male, some were female,

some were as young as three or four.

Many were in his age group.

Initially, the person

who was in charge the most was Arthur.

He was the one who dealt

with any situation that seemed safe.

When I arrived,

there was quite a bit of confusion.

And Arthur spoke with a British accent,

but he was very unemotional,

and he seemed to be the one

who controlled

which of the other personalities

were allowed to come forward and talk.

I control the spot completely.

I say who is on and who is off.

He took a long time

before he let us meet with Ragen,

who was the personality

that was most angry and most violent.

If you look at "Ragen" it is "Rage Again."

And Ragen was the personality

that spoke in a Yugoslavian accent.

I know how to pay for a crime.

I've been in prison before.

Tommy was the escape artist.

When he was at Harding Hospital,

he got out of the locked unit he was in

and walked around to the front door,

not because he was trying to escape,

but just to see if he could.

And he could get out of a straitjacket,

he could get out of a door lock

You are the Houdini, aren't you?

You're the one that got

out of the straitjacket, aren't you?

Yeah.

Not all of the personalities

were spectacular.

Christene was a frightened little girl

who would hide in the corner

and wouldn't look at you.

Through specific personalities

identifiable by tone of voice,

facial expression, body image,

uh, they were ones

that we became knowledgeable about

so that we could identify

with whom we were talking.

I believe it was Dr. Harding

that actually gave us the information of,

"This is what

we think is going on with him."

"We think this is

a multiple personality disorder

and that's why he has

these episodes of amnesia

where he says this

but this has happened."

"And you clearly know what is the truth,

but his reality is that distorted."

"And so, we started to understand,

and then things started falling in place."

Now, I have to admit,

my very first gut reaction was, "What?"

"Are you serious?"

But that was not there very long at all

because just as soon

as they started talking about,

"There's one that's English

uh, it it just started to make sense

because I had spent time,

I'd seen this firsthand.

I know this person as Billy,

but I know what they're talking about.

To me, he always

seemed a little different.

A little a little unusual.

And one of the interesting things

that came about in the early days

of observing my brother

is that he had a knack for accents.

I remember times when we'd be driving

and he would start all of a sudden,

"Oh, I've got to stop for petrol,"

you know, in his British accent, and

I was like,

"We didn't call gas 'petrol.'

We called gas 'gas.'"

You know, I just thought it was just Billy

trying to be funny,

trying to be hilarious, but

he was just dead serious.

I'm not really sure

where these accents came from

because I don't recall

seeing them on television.

The only other show I remember

Well, Star Trek came out

in the 60s, the late 60s,

and maybe The Man from U.N.C.L.E.

Those were the only things

I remember him, um, being interested in.

Name is Napoleon Solo.

I'm an enforcement agent

in Section Two here.

That's Operations and Enforcement.

I am Illya Kuryakin.

I'm also an enforcement agent.

Like my friend Napoleon,

I go and I do whatever I am told to.

Arthur was with me quite frequently.

And then along came Ragen.

And had different

you know, speaking voices.

Spoke in a foreign language.

I couldn't understand a word.

I had to pretend I had understood,

because there was no way

I could explain to him.

But he was talking to me as his mother,

and he thought

I was supposed to understand this.

In the state that I was in, I thought

I felt everyone in the world was like me.

On many incidences,

because the way people's moods

would change in front of me,

it would be to me

as they went to sleep

and somebody else had came.

Billy was 14 when he was first sent

to, um, the very first

psychiatric hospital.

Billy was having some problems

and that the doctors want to examine him

and check out and see how he's doing

and give him some tests.

The first doctor that I recall

said that his, um

that he had states of amnesia.

And then maybe they'd call me from school.

I would go get him, I'd bring him home

and I'd say, "How about going in,

lay down and rest?"

He would go in there.

When he would awake

then he was completely bewildered.

He didn't know how

he got from the school to his bed

and what he was doing home.

I was in a classroom,

and all of a sudden, I went to sleep

and I woke up on top of a fire escape.

On top of a building.

And my mother had found me up there.

Billy's asleep.

What was it that made him go to sleep?

We had talked to a variety

of these other personalities,

but Billy had not been

allowed to "wake up," as they say.

We put him to sleep

during a suicide attempt

at the age of 16.

The host personality

being gone for five years is not common,

but it's also not rare.

I've seen many cases like that.

And if you just think about this

as a survival strategy,

let's say that

he would have k*lled himself,

but because he was put inside,

the body didn't die.

It's a defense mechanism,

a coping strategy,

a survival strategy.

But it's basically, "This is too much.

I can't deal with all this."

"I have to break it into pieces

so I don't feel

and know the whole picture."

Now, what about the suicidal business?

Has he been

No.

So, he's not suicidal now.

No. Um

I'd like to see what does he feel like.

I talked as persuasively as possible

with the alternates

and said, "Let Billy come out,"

because they said

they'd been keeping him asleep

because every time he came to,

he'd want to k*ll himself,

and they didn't want to die.

And I said, "Well, you know,

there are a lot of people here and

Let him come out,

so at least I can see what he's like."

Are you scared? What's wrong?

You remember me?

Billy?

You remember me? No need to be scared.

It's perfectly safe.

To me, I guess sleep was like death

because it was an escape.

And when Dr. Wilbur woke me up,

it scared me to death

because I had no idea

where I was, what was going on.

And I just seen

all these people around me.

I saw my first miracle.

I saw my son again.

The core, Billy.

When did everybody start

knowing about everybody else?

When you came around.

I think it was

hard for him to believe it at first,

but after explaining the fact

that he couldn't remember

things that he had done,

then I think he had to

come to the conclusion

that what they were telling him

was correct.

How did I get here in this hospital?

Mrs. Turner, Dr. Wilbur felt

that perhaps if you came to the hospital

that you would be able

to learn how to deal with problems,

and deal with frightening experiences

and that you wouldn't go to sleep

and then when you wake up

find something had happened

that got you into trouble.

And you guys can do that?

We certainly would

like to try to help you do that.

Would you like us to try

to help you do that?

You mean you'll get

these people out of me?

What are the things

that are hardest for you to deal with?

If somebody gonna hurt me.

That makes me go to sleep.

That would make you go to sleep?

In order to escape from that person?

Yeah.

If I go to sleep, I don't get hurt.

The dissociation defense

is an altered state of consciousness

and it occurs because the individual

is put in a position of terrible trauma

that is unbearable

to think about in the present,

and so they dissociate.

They go into a kind of altered state

to mentally leave the traumatic situation

in which they have found themselves.

Why am I that way?

There must have been things

that frightened you terribly

when you were very small.

The development of a multiple personality

was the direct result of extreme trauma.

And when I say extreme trauma,

I'm not just talking about child abuse

in the way that

we normally describe child abuse.

I'm talking about child abuse

that borders on t*rture.

Does he know I'm here?

Does he know you're here?

Yeah.

You're talking about?

I'm not supposed to tell things.

If I did something wrong,

he's going to k*ll me

and bury me in the barn.

Billy, I'm going

to tell all of our stories.

I'm going to tell

all the secrets that I know.

They need to understand this.

They need to know this

or this is going to keep

happening the rest of your life,

and I can't live like that either.

And you can't do that to people.

I'm grabbing your heart ♪

I'm getting to you ♪

All this pain, all the same ♪

I don't know who's right was wrong ♪

I'm strumming my heart ♪

I'm getting to you ♪

I'm feeling the pain ♪

I'm gonna hide away ♪

You're gonna stay without me ♪

Strange girl, strangle me ♪

Strange girl, strangle me ♪