01x09 - Inside 'What I Know'

[bunniefuu]

- The girls got it done and

The Boys finally scored

a real win for the team.

I'm Aisha Tyler, and

it's finally time for Mario

to whip up a big batch of

those Vought gruyere air puffs,

because we have so many

questions about

the Season Two finale

of the boys.

(music)

Hey, everybody, welcome to

"Prime Rewind: Inside the Boys."

We are going all in

on this devastating

big bad daddy

of a season finale.

The fights, the death,

the city skyline self-love.

We have put together

a panel of guests worthy

of this revelatory episode,

so joining me tonight,

the showrunner, ring leader

and chief agitator of

"The Boys," Eric Kripke.

Hello.

- Hey, how are you.

- Hey. Welcome back.

And the guy who can

do whatever he wants,

Homelander himself,

Antony Starr.

Hi.

- Hey.

- Welcome back.

- Good to see you.

- Yay. And the woman who laughs

at just the right time,

Kimiko, Karen Fukuhara.

Hi, lady.

- Hi.

Hi again.

- Hi again.

- And father of the year,

Billy Butcher, Karl Urban.

[ laughing ]

- Aisha, how are ya?

Hey, guys.

How are ya?

- Hey.

I thought I was father

of the year, come on.

- You guys are neck and

neck, quite honestly.

[ chuckles ]

- Oh my God, you guys.

That ending!

What a reveal! Neuman!

My moral compass is spinning.

But, honestly, now it

makes total sense,

when we had

Claudia Doumit last week,

she answered every

question like this.

- Moo-ha-ha-ha!

[ screaming ]

- Right.

That's her.

- That's sinister.

Sinister.

- That's our Neuman.

- I love it. Neuman!

Uh, Eric, what does this

Neuman revelation

mean for the future

of the show?

- Well, I can't tell you

too much,

because there's

a whole other season

where we're going

to unpack all that sh*t.

Vic Neuman is

a character from the books,

and we were always from the

beginning really interested,

obviously, politics is already

a huge part of this show,

and ultimately, we wanted

a politician to really

get into that world.

In the comic, he's kind of

an idiot from the beginning,

and a puppet,

and we wanted to misdirect,

and so we created

a young, smart kind of

firebrand of a politician

and then reveal that

she has ulterior

and certainly bad motives.

Like, every so often

a writer will pitch me,

like, but maybe she's doing

the right thing,

and I'm like, she did blow

up congress, though.

[ laughing ]

-So so I'm in the

writer's room every day,

figuring out what

her journey is in Season Three

and revealing the things

that we know

of who she's in

allegiance with.

It's fun, I actually now

have some of those answers,

and I will not say any of them.

- Kripke!

- That's actually code

for I have no idea.

- No, I really do!

- I haven't written it.

No, I bet you do.

- I swear to God, I do!

- Wouldn't you like to know?

- I know! I know, m*therf*ckers,

I know.

- Speaking of blowing things up,

whether the Supes are

k*lling America's enemies,

rescuing a dolphin or

burning down a movie set

because their r*cist lover

isn't being considerate

about their feelings,

collateral gets damaged.

Like, really damaged.

And we can't just allow all

of this good property

to go to waste, so we are

giving you a chance

to purchase liquidated

Supe-damaged stuff

with no money down.

A once in a lifetime

super-sized offer

is coming your way.

At k*ller costs,

these properties

were involved in some of

the greatest rescues and heroics

by The Seven.

Buildings torn in half

by Homelander.

Electrical damaged properties

by Starlight and Stormfront.

Apartments with toxic mold

from The Deep's

secret aquarium themed

kink parties.

Homes burned by Lamplighter.

And at fire sale prices,

literally,

because this place

is on fire.

Call now.

-Supe house.

-Supe house.

- Kripke, that was so good

of you to let them

use your

house for that.

- What can I say?

I'm a giver.

- I do love that,

though, because

so much of superhero lore,

is just watching these

incredible fights and

not ever talking

about that fact that

some poor guy's house

got smashed by a semi-trailer.

- Totally.

- Do you know what I mean?

Guys, the finale kicked off

with an instructional video

about what kids can do

to prepare for

a Supe t*rror1st attack.

Obviously, paralleling

current real-world

school sh**ting drills.

So, Eric, why did you feel it

was important to start there?

Tell me a little bit

about that moment.

- Well, because

the g*n culture in America

is f*cking horrific.

And allowing it to continue

even though

it's threatening our children

is the g*dd*mn craziest thing

I've ever seen,

certainly the subject

makes me angry.

I'm a father.

What's really sad

is those videos about

what to do in a

school sh**ting really exist,

and we just switched out

sh**ter for super villain.

- Right. I think you made

a really important point,

which is the idea that

violence in schools

would be so normalized,

that rather than trying

to figure out

how to fix the violence,

we would be trying to tell our

kids what to do if it occurred.

And that it occurring

would be so frequent,

and kind of casual,

it's mind boggling.

- Right.

- I mean, the idea that

as a parent, whether your kid

was going to come home

from school is a general thing

that we've been working on

for a very long time here,

and it does seem crazy

in such an advanced

and wealthy and the way

that we perceive ourselves,

sophisticated country

that we haven't been able

to solve that problem.

- Uh, I have to say, you know,

I've got a couple of kids

and early on in my career I had

the choice whether

to relocate my family

to the states,

I swear that the one thing

that stopped me

was the prevalence of

g*n violence in America,

and in particular the fact

that I didn't want my children

to have to pass through a metal

detector to go to school.

I find it shocking

and abhorrent

and just just really sad

that that's the state

of American culture, and

I just pray that one day,

something or someone is going

to be able to change that.

- Right.

- Like, let's not deal with

the problem of g*n violence,

let's just get you prepared

for inevitably,

a sh**ter coming

into your school

because we're too f*cked

to do anything about it.

- Right, right, the idea

that this isn't just

a possible occurrence, but

for all intents and purposes,

a probable occurrence.

I also think that it brings up

an interesting aspect

of the show

that you guys are

really examining, which is

the idea that we

weaponize everything.

If we find something

and it's powerful,

we are going to turn it

into a weapon,

and I think that's at the core

of the Vought commercialization

capitalization, and creation,

we find out,

you know, downstream

in Season One,

of these superheroes.

But it stands to reason that

if there were real superheroes,

America would find a way to

turn them into military weapons.

And that would be

more important than

serving the public good.

- Yeah, absolutely.

- Yeah.

- Yeah, yeah.

- Everyone's just like, yeah.

- Sadly true.

- It's so true.

So sad.

- Well, put.

Karen, this was a big

moment in this episode.

During the competition

with Stormfront,

Kimiko bursts out laughing.

This is, like a

new verbalization for her.

- Yeah.

- Why do you think that

she was laughing?

- This is the first time

anyone hears Kimiko audibly,

and I struggled with it when

I first read the script because

I was thinking about what

would make her laugh enough

to change her physical

abilities,

but then everyone's coming

together and she realizes

that she had already

let these people in,

and she began

her process of trust

without her really noticing it,

and then in this moment

it all just comes up and

she realizes that she

didn't have to struggle

on her own,

and now that she's here

facing Stormfront,

and getting her revenge,

vengeance with her family,

I think that's what makes

that laugh happen,

and, you know, that change

happen within her.

- I literally am

tearing up a little bit.

I don't know why this

is making me emotional.

- Oh my goodness!

It wasn't supposed to be!

It wasn't supposed to be!

- It was really

that was nice.

- It's such a great moment

when you just hear

this little chuckle

come from off-screen.

I was like, wait, what?

And then you see this

cheeky little thing,

like, finding herself and having

all this stuff going on.

It's great.

- That's really lovely.

Well, Karl, this episode was a

real crossroads for Butcher.

He really found himself between

a rock and a hard place.

Does he give Ryan to Vought

or does he tell

the truth to Becca?

And why do you think

he chose to come clean?

Was seeing his father a factor?

Did that change his thinking

about this kid?

- Well, I think there were

ultimately a couple of factors

that went into

that moral decision.

I think first of all,

Becca makes him promise

on Lenny's grave

to swear that

he will protect Ryan,

and invoking the memory

of Lenny kind of I think

really connects with Butcher

on a very deep level.

And then I think it's really

quite as a simple as

being in the moment

when he sees that love

of a mother for her son and

he sees the woman he loves

being compassionate and

loving and affectionate

towards this boy,

and just has an epiphany

that there's just no way

that he can betray her.

You know, it's not just

Homelander's kid.

It's not just some abstract

concept of there's a Supe-kid

out there that's

Homelander's son.

It's, hang about,

this is Becca's son,

and she loves him.

It's just another log

on the emotional fire

which prompts Butcher

to do the right thing.

Which is one of

the rare occasions.

- Rare, very rare.

- Nine times out of ten,

do the wrong thing.

You pray that he's

going to do the right thing,

but, you know, so,

this is an instance

where he

does the right thing.

- Oh, his tiny heart grew

three sizes that day.

It's nice.

- Yeah.

- Well, watching this season

of "The Boys" has been

a veritable clinic on how

to deliver a sick burn.

Oh!

So I'm going to give you

guys some of

my favorite burns from the show,

and I'm going to ask

you to rate them

on a scale of one to 10

in a segment that we call

Here we go.

This is Homelander

talking to Butcher.

On a scale of one to 10,

rate that burn, guys.

- Wait, wait,

before we rate it,

give us the tongue wag

on delicious.

- Oh, God

- De-l-l-l-l-l-licious.

- De-l-l-l-l-l-licious.

[ laughing ]

- There you go.

That's what makes it.

That's what makes it.

That's the thing.

- It really does sell it.

[ laughing ]

- I'm going to have Karl

rate that burn since

the burn was directed

at your character.

Rate that burn, Karl.

- I would say that

it's probably a seven.

Probably abut a seven,

seven and a half maybe? Yeah.

- That's fair. Here we go.

This is Lamplighter

speaking to Hughie.

Hughie says

And then Lamplighter says

I'm gonna let Karen

take that one.

Rate that burn.

- Thank you. Thank you.

- You're welcome.

Karl, you have high standards,

so I don't know.

I would have rated Homelander's

"delicious" 10,

but I think this would

be like a solid eight?

- That's good, that's fair.

Okay. Here we go.

This is Frenchie and Kimiko.

Frenchie is interpreting

for Kimiko.

Frenchie/Kimiko to Stormfront:

Uh, so

Antony, since that

was your lover

who ended terribly with

a boot up her kitty,

rate that burn.

- A boot up her kitty?

I'm not sure that

a boot up the kitty

is the biggest threat

you could come up with

in context,

seeing as the little one

can tear people's heads off.

- Fair.

- But definitely, like,

its got a swagger about it,

so I'm gonna give in like

an eight, eight and a half.

- It is insult to

injury, for sure.

You know what I mean?

- Thank you.

Yes, insult to terrible,

terrible injury.

Well, let's get into

a theme that

recurred throughout this season.

The theme of family.

And honestly, there's no-one

on this show

that doesn't have deep

and destructive

family issues going on.

Antony, what do you

think Homelander's

ideal family would be?

He was trying to build

a family this season,

it didn't quite go his way.

So what do you think he

would prefer,

just him and then female him

raising little baby him?

- It would just be, like,

genetic clones

with different sex organs.

- Exactly.

- I don't know that he

really understands the concept

of family.

I think he desperately

wants connection

in some way, shape, form,

I just think he's completely,

because of his background,

because of the way

he was raised ill-equipped

to even comprehend

what that means

and, you know, he's also

got a healthy disdain

for humanity, and people

that are less than him,

which is kind of everyone.

I think he's forever going

to be a lonely dude

that always wants connection

and is never he's never

going to be able to achieve it.

Perhaps his Little House

on the Prairie days

were done with the n*zi.

- Right. One thing that's really

interesting about his character

without, like, going too

deep is he has, like,

real diagnosable

psychological issues that come

when a child is not

loved properly, right?

They are dissociated,

they cannot connect

with other people.

It helps you understand why

Homelander's such a d*ck,

because he just doesn't know

how to form relationships

because he's never had any.

- Yeah.

- He just wasn't loved properly.

- I I think

thank you for saying that.

That's what I've always said,

just misunderstood.

I think he does know how

to build relationships,

I just think the relationships

that he builds

are completely one sided

and, uh

ultimately the guy

is an emotional wreck

and so anything, anyone

that comes into his orbit

has got to serve him

in some way or

they become superfluous.

- Right.

Karen, Kimiko lost

her brother this season.

It does seem like she's finally

settled in with The Boys

as her family.

You know, and in their

own kind of insane way,

they are a family, they do care

for each other, you know,

to the capacity that

they're able to.

Do you think that this

surrogate family of The Boys

is ever going to be able

to replace

the family that she lost?

- Yeah, I think replace would

be such a harsh word to use

because, you know, her

vital years growing up,

they only had each other

and they only had each other

to experience this camp with,

and so I don't think that

anybody would be able to replace

Kenji, but

I think The Boys

through Frenchie, and Hughie,

and then Mother's Milk

who even says that Kimiko

is a part of the team,

that allows her to realize

that, you know,

she does have a home

within this group.

She has a place, and I think

that at the end of Season Two,

we really see

that click together.

And I hope that it continues

for Season Three.

But who knows?

Who knows what'll happen?

- Karl Karl and Eric,

in the last episode, Butcher

had to confront his father

and the emotional damage

that his father had done,

not just to him, but

to his brother growing up.

And Butcher had to deal

with a lot of pain.

You know, obviously

the pain of losing Becca

and this road of vengeance

he's on, but do you think

that original pain, the pain

of what his father did,

turned him into

the man that he is now?

- Yeah, I certainly

believe that

that is a huge contribution.

There is a monster

living within Butcher,

and that monster

is his father,

and I place that squarely as

his father's violence

towards not only Butcher and

his brother but his mother.

And that is this ugly being,

this beast,

and you see that character

come out

at a couple of different points.

When Becca dies at the

hands of, inadvertently, Ryan,

Butcher is again transformed

into that monster,

and momentarily you fear

for Ryan because

you know, he looks at Ryan

and he picks up that crowbar,

and that is Butcher

at his most dangerous,

that is Butcher unhinged.

Everything he touches

is potentially toxic.

He is a danger to

not only himself

but to the people around him.

You know, and he promised

to keep Ryan safe,

and so, yeah.

- Eric, in that scene,

you know,

as a viewer I just was

so desperate for his father

to have, like, one loving

moment towards his son.

It was just so disappointing

that he never got there.

- So much of the show

is this exploration

of toxic masculinity.

When we met him, we were just

like, oh, he's on the warpath

because his wife's dead.

And that was always going to be

the rug pull we had under us

of, like, well, no,

she's not dead,

so why is he in fact

so angry and violent?

And Becca says it,

it started so long before me.

And so he had to really explore,

and come to terms

with why he was that way.

Um, yes, no spoiler alert,

it's not like

Season Three

he puts on a sweater

and starts volunteering

at the local library.

That is not what Butcher

does in Season Three.

So, you know, there's

more issues to explore

but, you know, he showed that

he's capable of humanity.

He made a real human choice

in the finale.

Even at terrible cost, you know?

It cost him the one

thing he loved most.

What I love about this show

is like it's so f*cking cynical,

and all that, but I actually

see it as a really emotional

and hopeful show, because

there's like these little bits

of humans trying

to do the right thing,

and I think that is certainly

where our focus is

of who we consider the true

heroes of the show.

- Right, right.

All right, guys, so after

a season as action-packed

as this one, don't you think our

characters deserve to kick back,

relax and just fall in love?

Well, we, do, so we're going

to play matchmaker right now.

I'm going to give you guys

a character from the show,

and I want you

to give me someone you

would ship with them, all right?

From the show or beyond,

anybody you choose.

First up Homelander

is newly single.

I'm assuming that's

a tattoo on his back?

Now that his n*zi lady

love is gone,

who would you ship

with Homelander?

- Okay, first of all,

first of all,

that is not

a picture of my back,

because the skin is peeling.

- I did see the terrible

sunburn on that guy.

- Someone's got a fungal

disease or some sh*t?

I don't know what's

going on there.

That ain't my back, okay?

Thank you.

I would say the safest person

to ship away with Homelander

on the Good ship Lollipop

would be Kimiko,

and when she pisses me off

- No!

- I can k*ll her,

and then she can't die,

she can come back

and get k*lled endlessly.

Wonderful!

- Oh, God.

- Oh.

- She's not feeling it,

not at all. No, perfect.

All right,. so next up,

poor Ashley,

who's apparently

still in the 8th grade,

and

really struggling with

her professional life.

Who should Ashley be with?

Karen, do you want

to answer that one?

- Yeah, I would really

love to see her

get with some of

the marketing guys.

[ laughing ]

- I love them, they are such

a fantastic duo.

Either one of them I would

be happy with.

- Yeah, right.

Ashley, I think, would

connect with Seth,

because he would be

very non-threatening,

and after a long and

difficult day at the office,

they could cuddle,

because all they're ever

going to do is cuddle, because

he doesn't have a p*nis.

- Not necessarily.

- Thank you, I was about

to go there, Karl,

and you beat me to it.

You are a man of many talents,

and after my own heart.

Yes. All right.

And finally,

the very well endowed Mr.

Lovesausage from episode six.

That is a tree-trunk,

not a p*nis, but

feel free to regard it

as you will.

Who do you think could

tolerate a relationship

with Mr. Lovesausage?

Karl, do you want to

take that one one?

- I would just

I would vote MM,

just for the pure comedy of it.

I feel that Laz was so

comfortable with having

that love sausage

wrapped around his neck,

and I think he deserves

to have more scenes

with a lovesausage

around his neck,

so that'd be my vote.

- Karl, tell Aisha the story

of when Laz first

found it in the script.

- Oh my God,

this is hilarious.

So, we were on set one day

and we like to

give each other sh*t, as you do,

and we were joking around

about episode six,

and you know, Jack and I

were saying,

"And that moment when the d*ck

wraps around, your MM's neck"

and Laz goes, "Oh, yeah, right.

That's good."

And we're like, "No, no,

seriously, the p*nis,

it wraps around your neck"

and he goes,

"No, man, you guys

are sh1tting me.

That's bullshit!"

And we're like,

"Dude, read the script."

And he hadn't actually read

the fine print in the script.

The actual stage direction,

and honestly, it was one

of my favorite parts

of sh**ting Season Two was

seeing Laz read that script

and the horror that

came over his face

when he saw that there

was going to be a d*ck

wrapped around his neck

and he was like, "Oh, man, this

Kripke, what did I do to him?

What did I do to him?

Why is he doing this to me?"

- I want to be really clear

that I only wrap 10 foot dicks

around the people

that I love, so

That's bullshit.

- It's just a gesture

of deep affection, right?

Really caring.

Like a warm,

snuggly p*nis hug.

- d*ck hug. It's a d*ck hug.

- I actually thought of

a really great hashtag

for this episode: #c*ck.

So that's just a

gift to the fans.

- Right, yeah.

- The c*ck cuddle.

That was what that was,

the little d*ck around the neck,

it was a c*ck cuddle.

- Sweet.

Sweet is what it is.

- It's for the kids at home.

Okay, let's take a look

at what people are saying

about "The Boys" online.

@CoolguyJ says

So The Butcher Becca saga has

been one of the core threads

someone could

argue the core thread

of the last two seasons

of the show.

How do you feel,

how does your character feel

going forward, and

we'll start with Karl.

- Well, that is really

a Season Three question,

isn't it?

And one of the things that

I've learnt in my career

is never to hypothesize about

anything to do with writing

because if it comes

from an actor, inevitably,

it's never going

to end up on a show.

[ laughing ]

- Don't pitch it if you

want it to go in.

Don't pitch it.

- No, no, no, no, never do that.

Bad idea.

But I think for me,

you know,

what's interesting going forward

is Butcher, emotionally,

he's got to be feeling

a certain sense of failure

over his inability

to protect Rebecca,

particularly from Stormfront,

so it will be very interesting

to see how that sense of failure

manifests itself behaviorally

going forward.

- We know who knows

the answer to this question.

- Yeah, we're not going

to do any of that.

[ laughing ]

Came from an actor, so nope.

- Since it's our very last

episode of Season Two,

of "Inside The Boys,"

we cannot end it

without you guys sending your

final thoughts and prayers

out to a character on the show.

So as your characters, why

don't you get us started, Karl?

We'll start with you.

- Sure, I um

My thoughts and prayers

in this final episode

will be out to

Ryan's therapist.

How he's going

to deal with this little kid

who is going to be looking

at him going,

stop being a c**t.

- He's going to be a handful.

- Right.

- Yeah.

My thoughts and prayers

to that person.

- Also, like, I don't know

how you unpick the deep

psychological damage of

I lasered my mom to death.

- He'll be fine. He'll be great.

- It's gonna be fine.

It's gonna be grand.

Karen, how about you?

- I know I did thoughts and

prayers to Stormfront already,

and so I think I'm going

to do a genuine one this time.

Um, to my brother Kenji

because, really,

you know, thoughts and prayers.

Mouse. R.I.P.

- Aww

- Maybe he'll be back

for a flashback scene.

Who knows.

Oh, I should not say it.

- Don't pitch it

if you love it.

Um, that was one of the

genuinely sweet moments

in the whole show

for Kimiko is

finding her brother,

and then womp womp womp.

But that was lovely.

That was lovely.

Okay, Antony, how about you?

- Can I do two just

really quickly?

- Absolutely.

- So I've got deepest and most

sincere thoughts and prayers

going out to Doppelganger.

Sorry, dude, wrong place,

wrong time.

What do you want me

to say?

Bad luck, sorry, bro.

And then the other one

would be

my most heartfelt, deep,

sincerest thoughts and prayers

are going out to Queen Maeve,

who's seriously

signed her ticket

as far as

Homelander is concerned.

Um good luck.

- Eww.

Showdown.

- Ooh, scary.

- Eric

- Before I do, I will say

if you ask me

what was one of

my top five regrets

of the season of things I wish

I could have done different,

it would have been

Doppelganger as Homelander

actually going through and

sucking Homelander's d*ck.

I feel like we left money

on the table with that one.

- You absolutely did.

- Cause he's right there

and you're like,

Oh my God, he's gonna do it!

- But then like we pull back

and it's like,

the money move would've been

for him to actually do it.

- And then k*ll him, right?

- And then k*ll him.

And then k*ll him.

Of course.

- I would say

my thoughts and prayers

are for my writing staff

who are now banging their

heads against walls

trying to figure out how

do we get even weirder

and crazier in Season Three.

I'm hoping they pull through

and deal with

their f*cking prick of a boss.

- Oh, God, that guy.

That dude.

- Yeah, f*ck that guy.

- f*ck that guy.

I love you.

All right, now,

what do you guys think?

Who should make an

appearance in Season Three?

Let us know, tweet your

answers @TheBoysTV

and Inside the Boys

with the hashtag

#GoodThingsComeInThrees.

I want to thank Eric,

Antony, Karen and Karl

for spending all

this time with me.

This has been such a fun season

for me as a fan of the show

and for me as a fan

of all you guys to get to

have these conversations

with you.

It's been a blast.

I want to thank everybody at

home for taking a Prime Rewind

for going "Inside The Boys,"

fist first,

but only with consent.

And don't forget to

check out "The Boys" showpage

on Prime Video and the

bonus tab in X-ray

for even more Season Two

bonus awesomeness.

Until next time,

don't be a c**t.

Rewatch "The Boys"

on Prime Video.

I'll see you next time.

Thanks, guys.

- Well done, Aisha,

that was great.

- You're so good!

- f*cking A.

- Thank you.

Thank you guys.

- Cool, thank you, Aisha.

- See ya.

- Thank you.

- Hey, Aisha.

- Eric!

- I just, I wanted to tell

you this was

such a fantastic season,

I loved it so much.

But I have so many questions

that we didn't get

to answer on this show

and I just

- Oh

- Now that it's just

you and me

- Right.

- A couple of things, okay?

Are there more Supe born

kids like Ryan out there?

Are we going to meet

Hughie's mom in season three?

Is she a Supe?

And who's going to lead

the Church of

the Collective now?

Is it going to be Carol?

Is Terror going to join

the g*ng next season?

Because I just love that dog.

- Please, just rewatch

Season Two, it's awesome,

and stay tuned for Season Three.

We'll answer it all.

- You're a cold and withholding

man, I hope you know that.

- I'll catch you next time.

- He hung up.

Agh!

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