01x07 - Inside 'The Bloody Doors Off'

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- We have traveled down

the road and back again

as the boys uncovered

more Vought secrets

and a surprise ally.

But like most heroic adventures,

they encountered

a monster d*ck along the way.

I'm Aisha Tyler,

and you are watching

"prime rewind:

Inside the Boys."

♪[theme]

- Guys,

if you are not caught up,

go watch episode six

of "The Boys" right now,

because we are about to go deep.

And here along for the ride

is the jack of all trades

with a great big heart,

Frenchie himself, Tomer Capon.

- Hi, Tomer.

- Hey.

- Good to see you. Welcome.

And the woman behind the design,

L.J. Shannon,

"The Boys" Supersuit Designer.

Hi, L.J. Welcome.

- L.J.: How's it going?

- Aisha: Really good.

Good to have you.

And our special guest

and superfan

who is no stranger

to a Kripke-created series,

Jeffrey Dean Morgan.

Hey! Hi!

- Hey, everybody.

- Yay!

- Let's get started.

Tomer, tonight's episode exposed

the truth about Frenchie.

Um, when you first

read that script,

was there anything

that shocked you about it

besides the giant, k*ller c*ck?

- [chuckles]

Yeah, right?

It's the whale and the c*ck.

The whale and the c*ck,

and who knows what's

gonna come next, right?

More than anything,

I was so excited

about getting the chance

to get deeper inside

Frenchie's origin story.

I tried to look up sources

that I can work with

from the comic books.

- Mm-hmm.

- And there's not a lot

that they say there

about Frenchie.

beside this crazy story

he tells.

He catches Hughie one day,

and he says,

"Petit Hughie, now it's time

for me to tell you my story."

And he starts telling him

this ridiculous story

about his father being

k*lled by a baguette duel,

and him feeling guilty about it,

fleeting to America,

and meeting Butcher

at this pub.

But with episode six,

everything came together

for Frenchie to redeem himself.

That was, like, amazing for me,

and the big, big p*nis,

of course.

And the big p*nis, of course.

Jeffrey, tell me what

you love about "The Boys."

It's always fun to meet

another actor who's a superfan.

What is it that you connect

with most about the show?

I didn't know a lot

about "The Boys"

kind of going in.

I hadn't read the comic,

the graphic novels,

and, so,

I went in just because

I wanted to see

what Kripke was up to.

Um, that first season,

I was just hooked.

I think each character

is so great.

To be sitting here

with Frenchie--

Um, he's so good.

- But every character has had--

- Oh, bless you, brother.

time to shine.

And it's just great

storytelling.

You don't know

who you're rooting for.

You don't know who

to root for in this show.

It's so f*cked up in every way.

I think they do

a really good job

at selling that world.

-Yeah.

-It's the deconstruction

of superheroes.

For me, it's kind of

my dream world.

I get lost in it every week.

I'm just thrilled to be able

to watch this show.

I think they've done a great job

bringing it to life.

- One of the things I love

about the show that you're on,

is that they ask

really big questions about

the nature of human beings.

Right? Who are we when

societal rules fall away,

like a show like

"The Walking Dead,"

or who are we in the case

of "The Boys,"

when we don't have to follow

those rules, right?

In the case of the supes,

the rules don't apply to them.

Well, and they're questions,

I think,

that we're asking now

in real life.

- Mm-hmm.

- I think "The Boys"

in particular

does a really great job of kind

of paralleling what's going on

in the world.

This episode, they talk

about everyone having cameras

and how that has changed

everything.

It's amazingly topical.

I think Kripke has

just done an amazing job

at telling a story.

And really that's what we want

is great storytelling,

and this is it at its finest.

L.J., I really quickly

wanna ask you specifically

about Homelander's costume,

because it's just--

What's interesting is,

when you first see him,

he evokes a lot of the iconic

superheroes

that we all know from comic

books and graphic novels,

but there's so much about

the way that they wanted

to corporatize,

you know, a guy who's

supposed to be Mister U.S.A.

How fun was that to design?

We had a great time

with Homelander.

And he was one of the first

characters that we jumped

right into,

um, because we

actually did a presentation

to get our project greenlit.

And Homelander was really

at the heart of that

presentation.

We did a lot of research

into symbolism

from other cultures

and times in history

where fascism really

was pervasive,

and we kind of baked that

into his designs.

And I had a great moment

in our camera tests

when all the actors

were together,

and, you know,

he has this tactical fabric.

Then, all of a sudden,

Erin looked at him,

and she said, "Oh, my gosh!

Those are eagles!"

'Cause his tactical fabric

is actually a repeat of

these fascist eagles.

- Aisha: Oh, my God.

That's awesome.

- So, it's, like,

once you see it,

you can't unsee it.

But we don't want to lay all

our cards out on the table

right from the get-go.

- Yeah. It's-- It's--

It's incredible work.

Um, Tomer, we've been hearing

a lot about Lamplighter k*lling

Grace Mallory's grandchildren,

and we finally got a little bit

more of the data on that.

And Frenchie really felt

like he was the one that

should have done something,

that he should have done

something to prevent that.

How do think guilt--

the guilt that he feels

about that moment

has transformed

or driven his character?

- From day one

when we meet Frenchie,

it's guilt all over.

Guilt mixed with revenge

- mixed with so many different

emotion and masks.

- Cocaine.

- Cocaine, exactly, and masks.

The masks are the drugs.

That's right, Jeffrey.

- [chuckles]

- You know what?

He turned it into revenge

against Lamplighter.

Of course, he wanted to k*ll him

the first time he saw him.

But then when they put

the masks off,

and put 'em aside,

and they shared their guilt,

it kind of washed away,

and I'm so curious to see

where both of these characters

are going to go

further down the line.

- Yeah. Absolutely.

Jeffrey, John Winchester's

experience

on another Eric Kripke show,

"Supernatural",

- is very similar to Butcher's.

- That's right.

They're both driven by this rage

that they feel towards

different kinds

of super-human forces

in both shows that have--

they believe have taken

their wives from them.

Did that parallel resonate

for you at all

when you were watching the show?

- Kripke likes

those kind of issues.

Uh, he likes to explore

those issues.

He loves the dynamic of

fathers that are messed up

generally

because their wife is dead

or their sons are disasters.

- Mm-hmm.

- That's something just,

as an actor,

that you have to have something

that you can kind of dig into,

as you know.

And revenge and your wife being

m*rder*d is a great way to go--

- Absolutely.

- as far as motivation.

You can get a lot

of mileage from that.

- Highly motivating.

All right. Let's switch

over to the boys.

Butcher, Mother's Milk,

Frenchie, Kimiko

all are vastly different people.

but they really balance

each other out.

So we'd like you guys

to help me out here.

Name the boy out of the Boys

that you think would do

the following.

So, Tomer

- Gotta be Butcher.

- Aisha: Yeah, that

feels right to me too.

That feels right to me.

Um, L.J.

- Ooh, don't be mad at me,

but Frenchie, right?

- Frenchie.

- [laughing]

- Why? Because he's French?

Oh, my God.

It's not good.

- [laughing continues]

- Um, Jeffrey, which boy

masturbates the most?

- Frenchie.

I think I'm gonna

go with Frenchie too.

Sorry, brother.

- He's a sexual being.

He's a very sexual being.

He's a sexual being,

that's right.

- It's a compliment.

- And he's not ashamed of it.

- I think it's Hughie who's

masturbating all the time,

thinking about Starlight.

- I wasn't even thinking.

Yeah, that could be.

- Aisha: That feels right.

- I think so too.

- All right. Fitted bodysuits,

gloves, flag capes,

leather-clad headbands

and blinged out accessories--

supefits always drip.

So we talked a little bit

about your design process

for Homelander,

but tell me about

the process for the other

characters on this show

and some of the thematic threads

that you pulled

as you were putting the other

supe outfits together.

- Sure. Well, so, first of all,

even though they're superheroes,

they're also human beings

and characters,

so one of the things that

is really important to me

as a designer

and to Kripke as our creator,

our show runner,

was really coming from a place

of being character-driven.

And so he's so great

at sharing with me,

you know, all of the, kind of,

arcs of each

of the characters

right out of the gate

so that I can incorporate

that into what we're trying

to accomplish.

I always say that I like

to take just enough DNA

from the books

so that the fans have

something to snack on

and be excited about,

but then also, you know,

go in our own direction,

and in particular we could

point to The Deep for that.

In the books, you know,

he was covered in this

giant helmet,

and it was immediately clear

that Kripke did not wanna go

in that direction,

that, you know,

we have this amazing actor

playing the character,

and, you know,

let's show that moneymaker.

- Mm-hmm.

- So there's actually

this wonderful moment

that we had in our fitting

with Chace where--

I was there with Carrie Grace,

who was my assistant designer.

And we put Chace

in his little zip-up top,

and he was connected

to these tighty-greenies,

'cause, you know, he's in his,

like, multi-colored green,

scaled, fabulous suit.

And he was like, "Oh, all right,

cool, yeah, this is great."

And we were like,

"Oh, no, this isn't your suit."

It was so cute of him

that he ready to just roll

with the undies,

which we did later use

in some advertisements.

But I was,

"Oh, no, babe, you get pants.

Don't worry, we're good."

In that character,

we also got to explore

some things that you don't

usually get to explore

in other genres.

And let's just go right there

while we're talking about c*ck.

There's always c*ck talk

in a superhero suit.

- I'm assuming that you

had to build some kind

of superhero codpieces

for all the guys in tight pants.

We have codpieces.

And not only do we have

codpieces for every guy,

we have, like,

a basket of codpieces

that are like,

codpiece "A," codpiece "B,"

shape one, shape two.

And specifically, um,

specifically for The Deep--

we called his Little Deep--

And, uh, you know,

it's a thing.

- Ouch.

- Jeffrey, when do I get

to put you in tights?

- Give me some tights.

I'm ready for some tights.

- Tomer: Oh yeah, I love it.

- [laughing]

- I'm just trying to get

the hashtag "littledeep"

- trending immediately online.

- I love it.

- So, Tomer, Kimiko was

rocking a bossy ring

on tonight's episode.

What kind of statement

or message do you think

she was trying to send?

- Oh, she's growing up so fast,

this girl.

- She is.

- I think that is a big,

big statement.

I love that ring.

I'm just sad

after Love Sausage

got out of jail after

who knows?

The first woman who ever

touched him was Kimiko,

The Female,

with her ring.

And that's a statement, too.

A big p*nis trying to get us,

and she's just bossing him out,

right?

- Aisha: She knocked it out.

She tapped it out.

Okay, guys, what do you think

the other supes' statement rings

might say?

If one of the other supes

had a statement ring,

what would it say on it?

Let's start with Homelander.

- I would say Homelander's

statement ring

would say

"f*ck. You."

- Yeah, the feels entirely--

- No. "Mama. Issue."

- Yes! Even better!

- "Mama Issue." Yes, exactly.

- He's like a walking

Freudian slip.

- Aisha: He really is.

- L.J.: Totally.

- Jeffrey, what do you think

A-Train's statement ring

might say?

- Oh, God, uh

I feel so bad for A-Train.

He can't do anything anymore.

I was gonna pitch

Molar Molester.

'Cause remember, he swallowed

Robyn's molar in episode one.

- [all laughing]

- Right, right.

- Okay. All right, guys.

So Stormfront's experiment

at Sage Grove

burned through a lot

of test subjects.

And I'm really concerned

about how Vought

is going to find

more supe candidates.

Let's see how they're doing it.

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I feel like I would call

that number.

I have to tell you.

I really do.

I think I would absolutely

call that number.

Oh, okay, guys,

the laser baby is going off.

And that means that we could

not recap this sixth episode

without "the r*cist

for the ages,"

Stormfront's Aya Cash.

Wasn't that a nice intro?

[laughing]

We know it's not you,

it's your character.

- Every little

Jewish girl's dream

is to grow up and play a n*zi.

- You know

- [laughing]

- when we're little.

Many people thought

that Stormfront was manipulating

Homelander at first, right?

That she really had

an agenda for him.

But now it feels

like this is actually

a real relationship,

you guys are a real item.

Is that how you're seeing it?

- Yeah! I mean, I think, um,

don't we always manipulate

the people we love?

- [laughing]

- I don't know. I'm a monster.

- [laughing]

- Ask my husband.

No, I think, yes,

she's manipulating him,

but she is also genuinely

madly in love with him.

He represents everything

she could possibly want

in a man.

He's got a great super c*ck,

and, um, a, uh

Aryan eyes and blond hair.

- I mean, it's her dream man.

- Aisha: Right.

Aya, what were your thoughts

when you discovered

that your character was

a n*zi?

- Look, I had a moment of, one,

they'll never let me do this,

and, um, two,

um, how cool would it be

if I got to do this?

Simply because

I was raised Jewish.

And to play a n*zi

feels like something

out of my wheelhouse.

And it feels exciting

to take on new challenges.

So, obviously,

I knew she was bad.

And I do think it's really

interesting to try to

play people who you

violently disagree with.

Um, and, um,

I knew there would also

probably be some backlash.

As this airs,

I'm sure there will be.

First of all, Stormfront

in the comics is a man.

- Right.

- A very large man.

So people will have

a reaction to that.

People will probably have

a reaction to the fact

that I'm Jewish.

But I think--

But it's not my job

to monitor people's reactions.

It's my job to do the best I can

to bring a character to life.

And it's Eric Kripke's job--

I think I've said this before--

to punish her deeply.

- [laughing]

- That was beautifully put.

- f*ck all those people.

- f*ck all the--

You are k*lling it.

- Thank you. My hair's finally

growing out, guys.

- It is. It looks great.

It's like it was never shaved.

One thing that I think

is really interesting

for the people

that are complaining

that Stormfront was a male,

is that this storyline

is so much more complex

because Stormfront

is a female in "The Boys."

It brings another layer

into the dynamic

between her and Homelander,

between her and the other

female members of the Seven.

That complexity--

And also quite honestly,

the way that she infiltrates

the Seven,

is very different than the way

that she would have

infiltrated the Seven

if she was a guy.

- Yeah.

The idea of a wolf

in sheep's clothing

is a trope for a reason.

Or the Trojan Horse

I mean, she comes in in a cute,

little Instagram-friendly

package.

And I think-- Unfortunately,

that's the way our world is

working these days.

I mean, even Nazis don't want

Oh, be called Nazis anymore.

Evil is packaged

in all new ways these days.

- Yeah. I think that parallel--

it's a beautiful parallel

to be drawing--

which is that we've got

a lot of people

who are rebranding themselves.

No, we're Nazis anymore.

We're alt-right

or we're nationalists,

or these more palatable terms

for he same old bullshit.

There have been people

caught on camera

doing crazy r*cist sh*t,

and then immediately insisting

that they're not r*cist.

- Like, wait a minute, guys.

- Yeah. Wake up, people.

- Video evidence

to the contrary, but--

All right, guys, let's check out

what the Internet is saying

about "The Boys" this week.

And by badass, I'm sure

that person a terrible person.

I think, for people watching,

to see how manipulative

Stormfront is

and that she's really

using tools

to bend opinion towards

her agenda

that I think it's important

for people to see

that that's actually happening

in the real world as well.

So when she is, like,

using her meme queens

to change public opinion,

that comes from real life.

That's not fantasy.

That's what's happening

in the world right now.

- She's f*cking terrified.

- Aisha: It's terrifying.

But I think it's good to be

talking about it in a way

you know, for those

of us who spend a lot

of time reading the paper

and thinking about this stuff,

it's one thing.

But I think these memes

are so much easier

to share and propagate

than a long article about how

social media's manipulating

the way that people see

politics.

So, it's important to talk

about that too.

Because people share

a funny name,

but they don't think

about it that much--

But this stuff

can really change--

- I'm guilty, too.

- Aisha: We all do it.

- We've all tweeted or put

something out there

that we didn't do

the research on,

and that we thought was funny

or we thought was a fact

and it was not,

so I think it's a--

This is a story for all of us

to listen to and say,

you know, we should

all be doing our research

and being rigorous.

- Absolutely.

And as your pin says,

we should be voting.

We should be voting.

So, um, guys,

before we wrap it up,

I would really love

you to tap into your character

on the show

or into your own personal

character if you're not

on the show,

and send some thoughts

and prayers to another

character on "The Boys."

Tomer, why don't we start

with you?

My sincere condolences,

I think, um

to Lamplighter,

being a d*ck and having

to dress like a d*ck.

- And having to fight a d*ck,

you know what I mean?

It was a cavalcade.

Poor-- Jeffrey will never

come back on this show again.

He really-- We--

I didn't think we could--

- I'm gonna thought and prayer

a d*ck right now.

- You're next,

since you volunteered.

- Oh, good. In keeping

with the theme of the show,

my thoughts and prayers go

to Mother's Milk.

May you never be choked out

by a large p*nis again.

- That was elegant

and heartfelt.

- Right?

- Yeah.

It worked for me. Absolutely.

L.J., how about you?

- [laughing]

- Well, I kind of have two.

One is to Stormfront.

May you never have to have

another merkin fitting.

♪♪

The next one is

to my supersuit team.

as they traverse merkins,

mercenaries,

mayhem, and many, many

other things

that you all will see

season long,

um, I apologize in advance.

- That was lovely.

Those were very genuine

and kind.

Um, yeah, I'm assuming

that you needed the merkin

for the sky f*ck scene

with Homelander where

he tried to laser your--

- Jeffrey:

Great scene, by the way.

- Aisha: That's a great scene.

- Yeah, we all--

- Oh, God--

By the way, all of the stuff

with the Homelander

and Stormfront is brilliant.

I just-- I'm so--

It's like "Moonlighting" 2.0.

- That's what happens when

you get two awesome actors

and great writing.

- I just love all of it.

Aisha: Okay, Aya

- Let's just clarify,

the merkin did not make

the show.

I requested a merkin,

because I thought,

as a hundred-year-old woman,

I should have a very large bush.

- Yeah.

- And I was very disappointed

it didn't make it,

because I also wanted it

to be a beautiful bush,

'cause I don't think we see

enough beautiful bush

on television--

- Nobody has more bush pictures

than I do on my iPad.

- [laughter]

- Thoughts and prayers

to Stormfront's bush.

- I'll give my thoughts

and prayers to the poor man

who Homelander and Stormfront

made sweet, sweet,

passionate love to

on their dead body.

I believe that's going out

with a bang.

- [rimshot]

- Ding.

- [imitates rimshot]

- Aisha: Oh, there you go.

Nicely done.

Guys, are you anxious to know

what will happen next?

We got you. Take a look.

- Hey, guys.

- Hello.

- Ryan, I'd like you to meet

my girlfriend Stormfront.

I think we'll be around more,

a lot more.

I want us to be a family.

- Oh, boy.

- Dun-dun-dun-dun.

- Yes, it's gonna be amazing.

Well, friends,

floor-skimming cape,

crack-splitting tights,

scaly bodysuit

Lucite chest plate--

If you had to choose,

which supe's costume would make

it hardest to fight crime?

I'm gonna go with Lamplighter,

'cause he just looks

uncomfortably hot.

But I want you to hit us up

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and use #insidetheboys.

And catch an all-new episode

of "The Boys"

next week on Prime Video.

Then join us here afterwards

to break down the themes

and chat with

your favorite characters.

And remember, if you see

a bald chick in bare feet

walking in your neighborhood,

maintain way more than

a six-foot distance,

all right?

'Cause what she's got

is catching.

I wanna thank you guys--

Tomer, L.J., Jeffrey, and Aya--

for being here.

This was so much fun,

you guys,

and I'm sure not at all what you

thought you signed up for,

but I could tell you

one of the most dazzling

pieces of television

that I've ever participated in,

and I'm sure we will be haunted

by it for the rest of our lives.

Good night, everybody,

and thanks for watching.

See you next time.

Thank you.

Thanks, guys.

- Thank you for having us.

- [overlapping chatter]

- So fun. Thanks, guys.

- Thank you, guys.

- [line ringing]

- Hello?

- [speaking French]

- I don't really speak French,

love.

Didn't you know?

Uh

[speaks gibberish]

Aisha, I don't--

I'm sorry, love.

- Oh, le poo poo.