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02x04 - Ancient Dimensions

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Beyond Skinwalker Ranch". Aired: June 6, 2023.*
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Showcases sites of unusual activity to discover if the activity documented on Skinwalker Ranch is real and pervasive.

02x04 - Ancient Dimensions

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NARRATOR: Tonight on
Beyond Skinwalker Ranch.

We don't know if they were
from interstellar space...

Or we don't know if they're
from a different dimension.

We're basically saying here
that these people were visited

or they experienced contact.

That's correct.

MAN 1: We're down to 19.

MAN 2: When they
started up again?

Yep.



What is happening, man?



Dude.

MAN 3: What in the...

[laughs]

That's my favorite
Travis reaction so far.

NARRATOR: For years,
scientists have

been working to reveal the
secrets of Skinwalker Ranch.

But is it possible
that the clues

to unlock the
mystery are located

beyond the borders of this
hub of high strangeness?

Wow.

NARRATOR: Now, an ex-CIA
agent and a veteran journalist

have been recruited
by the Skinwalker team

to go on a high stakes
mission across America.

Look at all this
activity that's happening.

ANDY: That's unbelievable.

PAUL: That is right
over our heads.

That's it, that's
it right there!

NARRATOR: The goal...
uncover evidence that

may finally expose the truth.

MAN 4: How is this happening?

MAN 5: Now it's going
to get interesting.

ANDY: Look, it's moving!

Look at that!

PAUL: This is just
the beginning.

Well, Paul and Andy,
it's great to have

you back at the table.

Now, I understand you
guys have something

of a very different
nature lined up this time,

something very special.

I think this is
an interesting one.

This is sort of a different
jumping off point for us

than usual.

This is not an area where
there's necessarily been

a recent strange phenomenon.

It's more sort of a
long history of it.

ERIK: OK.

PAUL: Right, we're interested
in visiting this place called

Rock Art Ranch in Arizona.

TRAVIS: I'm very familiar
with Rock Art Ranch.

So then you know it has
really one of the largest

sort of privately held
petroglyph sites in the country

and maybe in the world.

NARRATOR: Rock Art Ranch is a
private cattle ranch in Northern

Arizona, where it's
home to thousands

of ancient Native
American petroglyphs.

The petroglyphs on the ranch
are carvings on the rock

surface made by Indigenous
people who lived in the area.

For these Native Americans,
petroglyphs were a sacred form

of documentation
used to communicate

details of their lives
for over 13,000 years.

For the past five years,
the team at Skinwalker

has been investigating the
petroglyphs on their ranch.

What I'm looking
at is these curves.

It's a metaphor for
a serpent or a snake.

Snakes represents
two different worlds.

So it's a guardian
to the portals.

NARRATOR: Veteran
Navajo Ranger Jon

Dover also analyzed
the petroglyphs

surrounding Skinwalker Ranch.

The spiral seems
to be universal.

This spiral could refer
to some kind of a portal.

NARRATOR: This spiral
symbol in the petroglyphs

is also seen in an
ancient stone circle

on top of the Skinwalker mesa.

We have basically a
spiral right here that's

been put into this ground here.

NARRATOR: Now, Andy and Paul
plan to join up with Jon Dover

to investigate Rock Art Ranch,
one of the largest petroglyph

sites in the country,
to dive much deeper

into the phenomena surrounding
these ancient carvings.

So Jon Dover invited
us out to the ranch

to conduct a fulsome
investigation there and compare

the petroglyphs that exist
there with the petroglyphs

that you've had here
on Skinwalker Ranch

and see if we can't find some
correlation with the phenomenon.

Think about whatever
you're looking

at there, what it could be
that it's trying to tell you.

It's probably not just a record.

It's probably a
spot of interest.

You know, that reminds
me of a Ute shaman

told us that the
Indigenous people

around here used the cave
systems as a portal system.

These places like this may
be a doorway or a window

to somewhere else.

Now the possibility of
something like a portal,

that really gets my attention.

I can't wait to see
what you guys bring back.

All right.

This is definitely going
to be worth your while.

PAUL: All right, we're excited.
ERIK: All right, guys.

TRAVIS: See you soon, gents.
Good luck.

PAUL: I'm so excited to be
back in Northern Arizona,

on the edges of Navajo Nation.

Look at just how vast it is.

It feels like we're in
the middle of nowhere.

Well, I mean, this speaks
to exactly how preserved

this location must be.

I mean, there's no sign
of civilization anywhere

near where we're going.

Yeah.

ANDY: Ancient people
habituated here.

I mean, they came here,
they built a life here,

they left a history here.

And that's what we're
here to explore.

What we know about
this place is that it

has thousands of petroglyphs.

And as many as have
been discovered,

there are maybe many more.

ANDY: Yeah.

Compare that with Skinwalker,
which has a few petroglyphs.

This place is potentially a
wealth of information and energy

and stories and history that
really we've never experienced.

The petroglyphs
at Skinwalker Ranch

seem to suggest
that there might be

some kind of interdimensional
portal around that area.

So the question
for us is really,

can we identify any of the
same anomalous activity

here around the petroglyphs
slides at this location?

PAUL: This is exciting.

ANDY: There's Jon.

PAUL: Mr. Jon.

ANDY: Always great to see him.

How's it going?

Good to see you again, man.

- Yeah, really good to see you.
- Hey, Jon.

How are you, sir?

Doing great.

We've got some
really interesting

things to show you today.

You've been able to actually
research the petroglyphs

at Skinwalker Ranch.

What is it about
these petroglyphs here

that you think are noteworthy?

Well, we're seeing
the same symbols,

but on a much larger scale.

Skinwalker Ranch just
has a few petroglyphs.

This place is just
going to blow your mind.

Wow.

Jon, do you know, has there ever
been any kind of investigation

out here?

I mean, aside from people
just looking at them.

And you know, there's been
a lot of sort of research

about petroglyphs and
what they might mean.

But actual investigation and
experiments performed out here.

There have been none.

So you're going to be the first
guys to put instruments on this.

That's awesome.

This is a clean slate.

You know, it's uncharted
territory for us

to be the first to do this.
- Absolutely.

I'm excited to get out there.

Yeah.

Let's do it.

NARRATOR: With Navajo Ranger
Jon Dover leading the way,

the team heads out about three
miles west to the canyons,

where over 3,000 well-preserved
petroglyphs have been found.

Have the petroglyphs been dated?

What do we know about them?

We know that the people were
here about 500 AD to about 1070,

and then they disappeared.

You really do feel
like you're entering

some kind of sacred space.

This place is just astonishing.

Yeah.

Wow.

What a spot.

ANDY: Look at all those.

Oh my god.

JON: And these are just...

just a few.

Are those carved in?

Those are carved in.

That's incredible.

There's animals.

There's humans.

There's sort of humanoids.

Some of the figures
that you see up

here, if you count the fingers,
some of them have three fingers.

Some of them have five.

And the accuracy when
these things are made

is important to realize
that they were recording

things that they actually saw.

And if they saw
three-fingered beings,

that's what they recorded.

Is there an interpretation
of what these three-fingered

people or creatures are?

They represent star people.

Star people?

So we're basically saying here
that these people were visited

or they experienced contact...

JON: That's correct.

With extraterrestrials.

That's really quite humbling.

Yeah this is not rock art.

They actually had a
purpose for putting

this on the face of this rock
and in the location that it is.

Now, I'd like to point out that
the orb under that guy's arm

might not be an orb.

If you look at it closely,
it looks like a spiral.

In Native culture,
spirals always

are an indication of migration.

However, we've reinterpreted
it to symbolize a portal.

- Wow.
- Right.

A portal.

Right.

We believe that the ancients
had the ability to manipulate

these dimensional gates.

They postulated that
energy, frequency, vibration

were magical.

If you knew how to use
them, you could do anything.

We knew that they
had the ability

to utilize these things, these
dimensional gates and portals.

I mean, these are things that
we can potentially measure.

We should take
some measurements.

Yeah.

NARRATOR: In order to test
for the presence of any

naturally occurring energy,
frequency, or vibration

in the canyon,
Andy and Paul will

take readings with their
handheld instruments.

I'm cool.

I'm pulling out
our trifield meter

right now to look
at magnetic energy.

If we're taking electromagnetic
readings anywhere else

in the United states, we
expect to see somewhere

between 0.2 and 0.4 milligauss.

Sounds pretty quiet so far.

Very quiet.

Like, impossibly quiet.

Watch.

PAUL: Wow.

We've never seen that.

So this is saying,
Jon, that there

is no measurable
electromagnetic field here.



Which is unusual in itself.

Absolutely.

Yeah, this is not normal.

If you're going
to have a portal,

there must be intense
energy at that site.

Energy and frequency
and vibration.

NARRATOR: Andy and Paul are
with Navajo ranger Jon Dover,

studying the petroglyph
covered walls within the canyon

at Rock Art Ranch.

Jon suggests that energy,
frequency, and vibration are

needed for a portal to open.

So they're using a
spectrum analyzer

to check for the presence
of radio frequencies.

Let's take a look
at the radio spectrum.

OK, great.

Oh, look at that, Andy.

What'd you just find?





PAUL: Yep, and it's
been steady there.


a frequency that's

reserved for space to Earth and
Earth to space communication.

And here we are seeing it
next to petroglyphs that

are potentially
showing a depiction

of interdimensional phenomenon.

When you're collecting
this data on its own,

it looks kind of
disparate and you

don't know how it all connects.

Until Jon tells us that
there's three elements

tied to some sort of
interdimensional portal activity

within Native American lore.

There's frequency,
energy, and vibration.

And what we're seeing
here with 1.6 gigahertz

is a clear, strong frequency.

PAUL: I'm really curious to see
what else this little canyon has

in store for us.

JON: Oh, there's lots more.

Oh, wow.

Look at that.

ANDY: Look at those.

There are so many images
here that are clearly humans.

But what are those?

Those huge creatures.

Huge creatures with... it
looks like spikes or plates

on their back.

Right.

Honestly, I was thinking
they look like dinosaurs.

That's the same thing
that went through my mind.

And then associated right
there with that spiral shape.

Many Native tribes have
creation stories where

they came from somewhere else.

In the case of the
Navajo, they came

through several different
worlds that they describe.

A world of insects, a world of
giants, a water world, you know.

When they talk about
these, they say

that there was something that
appeared in the sky, a hole

in the sky.

And they climbed through that.

You know, they're
naturally occurring portals

that are just opening
and closing whenever

they get enough energy.

What's to prevent other
things from coming through?

ANDY: So interesting thing.

I feel like we should see what
we can measure at this location.

PAUL: Sure, let's do it.
ANDY: Yeah.

I want to try the FLIR.

Just get a thermal
read on this space.

Let's do it.

NARRATOR: The FLIR T1030 is
an exceptionally sensitive

high definition imaging
camera that measures

the heat signatures of objects.

The hotter the object,
the whiter it will appear.

What I'm thinking, Andy, is I'm

curious to see if
there's any difference

between the glyphs themselves
and the rest of the face.

Can you... can you aim right
into that crevice right there?

Do you see the dark spot?

PAUL: OK.

ANDY: You see what I'm seeing?

PAUL: The heat that's sort
of trapped in that corner?

ANDY: Why would there be...

PAUL: Seems like it
should be cold in there.

ANDY: Yeah.

Here, let me come
around where you are.

Yeah.

Yeah, look at that.

This is really interesting.

It's shaded from the top.

Yep.

Much warmer in there.

ANDY: All the way up and down.

PAUL: Yeah.

The carvings here right
next to this heat signature

are the spirals that
signify some kind of portal.

I mean, it's 64,


And the exposed face
over here is much cooler.

The most shaded is the hottest.

This face has been
in the shade all day.

ANDY: Yeah.

It wouldn't surprise
me if this was

an entry point of some kind.

It could be an entry point,
if we knew how to open it.

We've got the portal correlating

very closely with some
kind of energy anomaly.

You've got thermal energy.

There's absolutely
thermal energy back there.

And when you layer
that in with the fact

that we're seeing a very strong
signal here at 1.6 gigahertz,

we have a giant
energy anomaly here.

Is it unique or are
there others like it?

We know there are other sites.

I think that's the question
we've got to ask going forward.

Yeah.

Let's go collect some
more data and find out.

Thanks, Jon.

NARRATOR: After discovering
strange energy and frequency

readings in the canyon, the
next stop in their investigation

is a partially excavated
sacred dwelling site

a couple miles away, where
the ancient Native American

tribes lived.

What we're going to look at here

is a ruined site with
some rune blocks in it

that has been professionally
excavated by archaeologists.

They would have lived up here,
but the canyon would have been

a source of water
and it would have

been where they had different
ceremonies and things going on.

I think the big
question here is,

you know, these two
sites are obviously

connected by the people and
the time that they spent here.

We're curious about how they're
connected energetically.

Well, there's
definitely energy here.

Traditionally, in
Navajo culture,

you do not go
around these places.

Because the spirits
of the dead are here.

Wow.

Look at this.

Wow.

Just instant time travel.

This is a window back in time.

JON: Each room would
have held a family.

This area, I can feel the
energy all through my body.

PAUL: Let's take some
measurements here.

NARRATOR: Andy and Paul use the
radio spectrum analyzer to test

for the 1.6 gigahertz
frequency that

was present at the petroglyphs.

Look at that.



That's the same signal that
we were seeing in the canyon.

Yep.

What we've been able
to do is confirm for sure

that in this location, we
have two of the three elements

that you've been talking about.

We have energy.

We have thermal
energy in the canyon.

We have frequency.

PAUL: Right.

This really clear 1.6
gigahertz frequency.

So all that's
missing is vibration.

If we can get the three
elements together,

we have, I mean, the opportunity
to potentially unlock

whatever the ancients saw here.

Yeah.

The third point of this
triangle, this triad

of energies.

I think we need to bring
in a traditional singing

group with a drum.

NARRATOR: In 2023, a Native
American drumming group

performed at
Skinwalker Ranch, which

resulted in dramatic
temperature changes,

focused on the stone circle.

TRAVIS: The stone circle is
lit up like a Christmas tree.

NARRATOR: Which is thought
to be a sacred place

for the ancient people
and potentially a portal.

If this is the location for
a portal, all we need to do

is find a way to tap into it.

The fact that we have this
thermal energy, the radio

frequency, now the
question is, can we somehow

tap into this
vibrational question

here that Jon has
been telling us about?

We're going to do
a drum ceremony.

Who knows what could happen?

We could trigger our
own thermal anomaly.

We could trigger our own orb.

Anything can happen out here.

This place is wide open for us.

Art, it is so good
to have you back, man.

I know that we are in
good hands with you

and Jon on the
case with us again.

Thank you.

Thank you for having us.

We agreed to this so that we can
help propel the scientific value

as well as the
spiritual value that may

arise out of this experience.

NARRATOR: For the
first experiment,

Jon Dover has called upon Navajo
musician Alex Adeki and medicine

man Art Hardy, who
helped guide the team

last year at Navajo Nation.

Can you hear this, Andy?

Come here.

They're here.

I don't know how to
process through the idea

that they are here.

I don't...

Shh.

[WHISPERS] Don't
process, just listen.

NARRATOR: The team will perform
a traditional drum ceremony just

outside a sacred dwelling
site at Rock Art Ranch.

Jon believes that a combination
of energy, frequency, and

vibration can open up a portal.

And the team has found energy
and frequency at the site.

So the plan is to add sound
vibration into the environment

to test this theory.

So first and foremost,
the vibrational frequencies

is actually a key part
of what spirituality

is within the Native
American community.

There is phenomenon that
happens within the ceremonies.

We do see things.

We do hear things.

And I'm pretty sure a lot of
the Native American community

can attest to that.

I couldn't think of a better way

to let you guys
start setting up.

Great.
Sounds good, Andy.

Thank you, Art.

Thank you, guys.

NARRATOR: Given the thermal
anomalies that resulted

from the blazing bear drum
ceremony performed at Skinwalker

Ranch in 2023,
Andy and Paul have

set up a FLIR thermal camera
focused above the ceremony.

They've also set up two AI
powered UFODAPs to capture

any activity above them.

This system of two cameras
puts non-stop eyes on the sky

and can track objects to
identify if it's captured

a plane, satellite, or star.

Or if it's locked on to an
unknown aerial phenomenon.

[rattling]

I just got the chills.

[non-english singing]

[beeps]

Whoa.

That was interesting.

What was... that was fast.

Let me see if I can pull
up that file real quick.

Right there.

You see it?
- Do it again.

Yep.
Flying across the screen.

You can see the wings flapping.

I think that's a bat.

Yeah.

OK.

Well, false positives.

Yep.

It's working.

Check this out, man.

The air temperature has
been strange above them.

We were up above 33, 34.

We swung down to 28, 27.

Our target is 10 feet
above their heads.

It's not the fire.

Oh, look at this, Paul.
Look at this.

- Whoa, whoa.
- Look at that.

PAUL: Dropped out of nowhere.

ANDY: Yeah.

It went down as
low as 24 degrees.

Something is happening.



The music just stopped.

Look at this.

Look at this.

All they did was stop singing.

In the same area above.

That is so weird.

The music just ended.

PAUL: I was going to say, it
kind of went all over the place

when the music ended.

ANDY: We've gone up five
degrees since the music stopped.

On a cold night.

PAUL: Just went up to 28.

[rattling]

[non-english singing]

Andy, Andy, we're down to 19.

When they started up again?

Yep.





What is happening, man?





Dude.

ANDY: We just dropped
another seven degrees.

Wow.

It went down seven degrees in...

like that.

And you can hear the
difference in the voice, too.

Did they change singers?

They changed singers.

That's Art.

PAUL: Is that Art now?

Wow.

Look, it's at 13.

We're actually seeing that
the singer, the difference

in their intensity and the
difference in their voice itself

is changing things.

It's like we hit a
new threshold somehow.

Wow.

How interesting, man.

Look at that.

It's going back.

It just... soon as he stopped.

We've gone up in temperature
since the music stopped.

That was a powerful hit.

Did you see that just there?

That's fast.

What is that, though?

You see that?

PAUL: It's got a trail.

Look right there.

Did those look like two distinct
ba*ls of light in a row?

I'm going to pull up a clean
file with no data on it.

OK.

I don't know what that is.

PAUL: It also... did
you see the movement?

ANDY: I was going to say
there's movement there.

That kind of movement
and speed change.

PAUL: Yeah, I don't I
don't know what that is.

It changes velocity completely.

Right there, too.
PAUL: Yep.

ANDY: I didn't even
see that little curve.

I saw the one farther
down, but it...

PAUL: You see that?

Yeah.

It changes direction twice.

That's wild.

Yeah.

We just saw some kind of bird
or flapping insect before.

It's neither of those.

Correct.

And it's not moving
in a straight line.

I mean, it's a UAP.

Yeah.

It's a UAP.

And look where we are and
think about what we just did.

This is exactly what
Jon was talking about.

We're getting thermal anomalies.

We're getting UAP
hits on the UFODAP.

During this ceremony where
we brought in that one

missing piece, the vibration.

Two times now,
they've stopped singing.

And in both instances, the
ambient temperature went up.

On a cold night.
PAUL: Right

That's crazy.

Oh yeah, no.

Everything should
just be cooling down.

There should be none
of these fluctuations.

And to have it correlate twice.

Right.

What would make that
temperature change?

ANDY: What an awesome night.

I know we got some great
data, but I'm still sort of,

you know, reverberating
just from the moment itself.

It was absolutely
impressive to see.

It was a privilege
to be part of it all.

Not only did we see a
change in thermal activity

based on the change in voice
and the change in song,

but we also had
multiple UAP sightings

over the course of the night.

PAUL: Right.

Now, there was so much
going on that we actually

didn't have the
ability to capture

it all with our own two eyes.

So the production team actually
went through and scrubbed

all of the footage to find
the most significant anomalies

captured on the UFODAP.

Perfect.

Now, this was the one
that we saw in real time.

No flapping activity.

It changes speed right
there in the middle.

Right.

Yeah, now that one is different.

No question.

Different motion,
different speed.

That accelerating curve.

Yep.

Yeah, exactly right.

And when you hear people
talk about a cigar shape,

this is a cigar shape
flying through the sky.

That's right.

Now here's a new one.

Whoa!
- Whoa.

Whoa.
- Did you see that?

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, it just changed
direction right there.

Look at how intense
that color is, too.

But what's even more intense
is the change of direction.

That turn at that velocity
is just unimaginable.

It's more than a 90 degree turn.

Yeah.
It turns back on itself.



Yeah.

That's truly strange.

I don't know what that thing is.

There's no pilot on Earth that
could handle a turn like that.

Whatever that is, that's
an object that somehow seems

to just slice through the air.

Right.

And the question
again is, is this all

connected to the ritual?

Would we have observed
them otherwise?

We did the ceremony at
the settlement, right.

I want to know what effect
that might have in the canyon.

That's where the
petroglyphs, you know,

record the experiences
of these people.

What they witnessed,
experienced, and maybe brought

into being in that space.

And then there seems
to be potentially

some kind of correlation between
the walls that have these energy

seams and that
swirling petroglyph

that might indicate a portal.

Yeah, I think we should have
Art do a ceremony in the canyon

if he's willing.

Jon talks about feeling
an energy in that canyon.

I mean, I can't help
but wonder if we're

on the verge of potentially
opening a Pandora's box.

NARRATOR: Now that they've
documented thermal anomalies

and UAP sightings
during the drum ceremony

outside the ancient
dwelling site,

Andy and Paul had backed down
into the canyon with Jon and Art

to see if the ceremony
around the petroglyph

covered walls will
produce similar results.

Art will perform an
ancient medicine man

ceremony, where he will
invoke sacred prayers

designed to open a portal.

We definitely can
feel the heaviness

within the canyon, and as
far as what may have happened

here with the ancestors.

This corner is
just filled with...

look, there's the spiral that
we've seen so many times.

ANDY: And here, too.

I mean, the spirals
are everywhere...

PAUL: Portal or vortex.

The spirals are
everywhere in this section.

I mean, look, there's
multiple of them up here.

There's etchings here.

And they're old, Paul.

Look how faded they are.

I mean, what an
incredible place to set

up this experiment for tonight.

What I'm going
to be doing is I'm

actually praying to our gods.

The terminology that comes
with it is very sacred.

A lot of that's given from
medicine man to medicine man.

So unfortunately, I can't
let those names be on camera.

It's very sensitive in nature.

It's very sensitive to the
Native American community,

my family, et cetera.

So in that sense, I'd
rather you just see and just

capture anything with your
equipment that you can

while I'm performing
this ceremony.

OK.

So but we want to make
sure, you don't want

us to record any audio of you.

Correct.

And that's only for a
short period of time.

PAUL: OK.

And after that, we can resume.

So my understanding,
this is correct,

that yesterday's
experiments with the drum

and the song, that
was putting out

vibration into the environment.

Correct.

Whereas today, the
ceremony that you're

going to be executing,
essentially you

become the center
point of concentration.

Am I understanding
that correctly?

Yeah, no, you're right
on point with that, Andy.

We want to concentrate
all of the energy.

We want to bring that here
as much as we can, anyway.

Let's get started.
- Yeah.

OK.

All right.

So we've got recording on this
FLIR, recording on this FLIR.

UFODAPs are live.

Satellite tracker is live, and
our spectrum analyzer is live.

OK.

[WHISPERS] Andy,
right off the bat.

Look at all that.

Holy smokes.

Look at this.

The whole seam.

Dude, that's just like the
other areas in the canyon.

NARRATOR: While Navajo
medicine man Art Hardy performs

an ancient ceremony
designed to open a portal,

Andy and Paul are
once again seeing

abnormally hot seams in the
crevices of the petroglyph

covered walls.

ANDY: I mean, that's...

it's 10 o'clock at night, Paul.

PAUL: Yeah.

ANDY: How is this happening?

There's heat from within these.

We have another section
of the canyon where there's

this strong heat
signature in the seam,

and the actual
petroglyphs around it

are those spiraling
etchings that we're

coming to wonder if they
have some connection

to interdimensional portals.

That maybe by
itself isn't enough.

But when combined, when focused
with some sort of catalyst,

who knows what's possible?

[playing instrument]

[beeps]

That was interesting, too.

That was a quick one.

Let's see what that was.

Seemed to be in the
upper left corner.

ANDY: Right there.
You see it?

I don't see a wing motion.

I don't see a flapping.

I don't know what that is.

It looks like it comes
out of nowhere, Paul.

Watch.

We've got a solid two
seconds of empty space.

And then watch
right around here.

OK.

ANDY: See how it
just seems to appear?

PAUL: Yeah.

Some strange movement.

You know what
else is interesting?

Is this UFODAP hit coincided
with when Art blew the recorder.

Maybe with the end of
that part of the ceremony.

Right.

Hey, guys.

ART: We just had an
experience over here.

Just now?

Just now.

I heard voices down from the
canyon over here, down further.

I could sense that
there's something here.

What were you guys hearing?

Continuous but
intermittent sounds.

Like rocks hitting the
ground behind the brush.

Like something moving?

Something large.

Yeah.

Like disturbing the rocks.

Right.

I didn't hear
anything like that.

So whatever you heard was
somehow very localized.

Yeah.

That's really wild.

OK, so first of all...

That was interesting.

Does it slow down and speed up?

ANDY: Yeah, that was...

PAUL: That's weird.

Here's the frame by frame.

It's similar to what we saw
up at the settlement site.

And it also has the
change in direction

and the change in speed.

The acceleration.

It looks like a roller coaster.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Nothing on the FAA tracker.

I mean, Paul, that's a UAP.

That's absolutely unidentified.

Yeah.

JON: Oh, look at that.

Changing direction.

PAUL: Did that change
direction on us?

Wow.

Completely different
direction than previously.

PAUL: Something's going on here.

So we have one UFODAP
that's up on the cliff edge,

and then we have
one that's here.

And this is the one that's down
here in the valley with us.

So all these hits
that we've been

seeing of whatever this is...

Are right here.

This is down in the canyon.

This isn't at altitude.

It is fascinating to me,
Paul, that the multiple

sightings that we've
seen of this tonight.

But they've been
happening multiple times

since the four of us have been
standing here at base camp.

Whatever the phenomenon
is right now,

it does seem to be
hovering around Art.

In my ceremony,
that's what I requested.

Was like, show yourself.

Goes back to what I just said.

You know, sometimes
we manifest things.

And then if you're looking
for evidence, Andy,

I present it to you, sir.

This was a fantastic night.

Absolutely a success
on multiple fronts.

And what I want to know is if
the Skinwalker team can analyze

this data in any way
that we can't to find

any semblance of causation.

Thank you so much.

PAUL: Thanks, guys.

Well, gentlemen,
welcome back to the ranch.

I understand you're fresh
off of a very different

kind of investigation.

I'm so anxious to learn what
you learned at Rock Art Ranch.

I was blown away by this place.

I mean, this was an absolute
joy of an investigation.

It was everything you
promised it would be and more.

I mean, being able to see these
petroglyphs up close inches away

from your face.

I can still feel it now.

The sense of awe.

And our data was difficult
to make sense of, frankly.

While we were in this
corner, the spiral

portal symbols on the wall, the
types of petroglyphs that were

on this wall, Jon
was speculating to us

that this might be a portal.

Yeah, this is
weird, these results.

I still don't know
what to make of it.

Can you... can you aim right
into that crevice right there?

You see the dark spot?

PAUL: OK.

ANDY: Do you see
what I'm seeing?

The heat that's sort of
trapped in that corner.

Why would there be...

seems like it should
be cold in there.

PAUL: Yeah.

The deeper into the corner
you look, the hotter it got.

That's not intuitive at all.
PAUL: No, it doesn't make sense.

- Does that make sense to you?
- No.

What direction is that facing?

Where is heat?

I want to say south.

So sunlight never was directly
pointing right down the crevice.

PAUL: Not there.

But those portal designs seem
to be clustered in these areas.

You can see you've got
our wheels turning over

here on this side of the table.

But that is...

it's really fantastic, though.

And the anthropologists told
us there are ceremonial places,

where their magic portals were
and things like that, they let

Mother Nature tell them where
it was instead of them picking

the place or building it.

This could really play
in an interesting way.

Absolutely could.

So after seeing the canyon
where the actual petroglyphs

were, our next objective
was to get a sense

of where these people lived.

And Jon took us to some
incredibly well preserved

remnants of their dwellings.

So Jon arranged to have
a Native American drum

and singing group join
us for deep prayer

based ceremonial song.

I like that.

Perfect.

PAUL: Andy, Andy,
we're down to 19.

When they started up again?

PAUL: Yep.





What is happening, man?



Wow, look at that.



Dude.

Wow, temperature's
really dropping.

PAUL: Really dropping.

We dropped seven degrees
in just a few minutes.

And then we made
another observation.

So the ceremony, the
singing just stopped.

Look at that.

We've gone up in temperature
since the music stopped.

That's absolutely repeatable.

We have seen that.

I can't explain it.

We measured it
with Blazing Bear.

We've measured it
with the rabbi.

I don't understand it, but
it is a real phenomenon.

We obviously had the UFODAP
running at the same time

as the experiment.
- I was going to ask about that.

Yep.
Yeah,

There we go.

I was watching
in that direction,

seeing if I could see anything.

I didn't find anything yet.

TRAVIS: Uh, there was something.

ERIK: Looked like...

A meteorite maybe.

ERIK: A meteor, uh-huh.

PAUL: Except as this...

Did it change its course?

PAUL: Yeah.

Look, look at that.
ERIK: Wait.

What?

What just happened there?

PAUL: It sort of surfs.

Direction and altitude.

Let me it to you at full speed.
- Wait.

What time of year?
It was cold.

There's no bugs
flying at 20 degrees.

PAUL: Very cold.

What, what?

What did I just see here?

ANDY: Let me show
it to you again.

What in the...

Yeah.

[laughter]

PAUL: That's my favorite
Travis reaction so far.

I mean, we... we're obviously
amused at our own confusion.

And confused with
our own amusement.

ERIK: Yes.

I would agree with
that as well, I think.

So, here we have another
UFODAP hit that we're

not quite sure what to make of.

So first, you see the boxes
keying in on something

in the upper right-hand side.

But then you see this.

What the... what?

What is that?

Where does it end up?

Where does that thing go to?

ANDY: It disappears in
the center of the screen.

Look, if it's out there and
it comes in and does that,

the g-forces on that
would be ridiculous.

PAUL: Uh, that's
strange, isn't it?

- It's strange.
- OK.

This is definitely a
piece of footage that

warrants some post-processing.

I'd like to get
this raw footage.

And further investigation.

ERIK: Absolutely.

ANDY: But wait...

There's more.

ANDY: When we showed Art the
same UFODAP footage that you

just saw, that was when he
came up with the idea of taking

and replicating this
similar experiment

inside the canyon itself.

Now, here's where we could start
recording what Art was doing...

Uh-huh.

Following specifically
the whistle that Art used

at the end of the ceremony.

[whistling sound]

ERIK: There.

[beep sound]

ANDY: And then you
heard that right away.

That was the UFODAP hit.

Are you kidding?

Did it do that?

TRAVIS: It did the
same thing again.

- What did we just...
- Look at that.

It's doing the same thing.
PAUL: The other day...

TRAVIS: And it's vanishing.

And it goes the other way.

ERIK: There's an
abrupt change there.

Satellites don't
make moves like that.

Here's the big
reveal about this one.

ANDY: We had two UFODAPs looking
at the same patch of sky.

Excellent.

But with about 60 feet
difference in altitude.

PAUL: This is from the
DAP inside the canyon.

All right.

So show us the other one.

The other one didn't...

The other one didn't get it.

So...

PAUL: Whatever this is, it's
below the rim of the canyon.

How?

Are you sure there
wasn't any obstruction

above the UFODAP in the bottom?

There's nothing above us.

I mean, there's
some low, sort of,

brushy trees along the edges,
but not where we set up.

We couldn't explain it.

And from the data that we were
collecting, it was close to us.

PAUL: The most
reassuring thing actually

was sort of Art's sort of
calm demeanor like, well,

yeah, what did you expect?

This is what we're here to do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's a perception
that it's going

to be a nuts and bolts
spacecraft with little aliens

in it in spacesuits.

And so who's to say that
it's not something more

akin to an orb that travels.

So are they telling us something
with these petroglyphs about

what is capable in
these locations?

Were they depicting the story of
traveling through a portal using

energy frequency and
vibration, the intermingling

of all the things
vibrating together.

Right.

Jon Dover said the same
thing about energy,

frequency, and vibration.

It's the idea of
cause and effect.

We do this, we get this outcome.

And that seems to be the
story that we're reading out

of those petroglyph records.

I'm determined to be caught red
handed in the act of learning.

And I feel like this might
be one of those moments.

I'm with you.

For sure.
TRAVIS: Fantastic

PAUL: Thank you.

TRAVIS: Thank you, guys.

ANDY: Thanks, guys.

ERIK: Believe
anything you just saw?

TRAVIS: I don't know
what I just saw.