They have been
here for a long time.
The Native Americans had one,
the Skunk Ape down in Florida,
the Yeti in the Himalayans,
and, of course, traditionally
just the Bigfoot.
Navajos are told, you know,
"Bigfoot does exist."
I woke up, and I swear
through the window
I saw these two yellow eyes
staring at me.
I see the door knob doing this.
And it was just standing
there, really tall,
just covered in hair.
It's got abilities that
we don't understand,
and that's not normal,
so I would call that
paranormal, yeah.
Well, the Bigfoot
community is divided
between those who would say
Bigfoot is more of an ape
versus Bigfoot is more
of a person capable
of doing things that are
beyond the realm of normal.
That's not
a human being, for one,
but it's speaking a language.
There's a lot of information
that doesn't get talked about,
never mind
the paranormal things
that no ape could certainly do.
The big one turns and
walks into that portal.
You'll have a Bigfoot sighting
and then a UFO sighting
or vice versa.
"Unknown," I knew it.
That's been our
hypothesis from day one,
that when you do
get nuclear DNA,
there'll be nothing in the
GenBank which will show it.
I've seen things that
were cloaked in the woods,
moving, with color.
I can't explain those things.
These things, I believe,
have quantum abilities.
I saw a Sasquatch and it
vanished into thin air.
I genuinely thought
in that moment...
that I was going to die.
My name's Paul Freeman.
And God damn, there it is!
I'm going to tell you
a story about Bigfoot.
I spent 20 years in
municipal law enforcement,
I had a master's degree in HR,
worked in Silicon Valley,
ran HR groups
for several years.
After I left one of
the technology companies,
the two founders had
a Bigfoot encounter
when they were young, and
they came to me and they said,
"Hey, Dave, we had
this happen to us
and we'd like somebody to
go out and investigate it."
And that's where
the road started.
The real question
of what Bigfoot is...
is it a flesh-and-blood ape,
gorilla, Gigantopithecus,
Paranthropus,
or is it something
that lives
in the spirit world
or between the spirit world
in another dimension?
Can't see
much up through here.
I hear the brush
popping and stuff.
Oh, there he goes!
And, Michael, tell
us what that shows.
Well, it clearly shows,
uh, an animal, not a bear,
something different
moving from right to left
-across the screen.
-And it was a biped?
It was a biped, yes.
So how did your dad
describe what he saw?
He said that, you know,
it reminded him
of a prehistoric man, but it
was more covered in hair,
except for the face,
which he said was more
ape-like in appearance,
although he did not
equate it as being an ape.
In 1992,
Paul Freeman was a ranger
working in the Blue Mountains,
and he started to
have unusual encounters.
And he took an interest in it.
He eventually got a camera
and started filming
what he really didn't know
was roaming those mountains,
and eventually he got some
footage that was quite credible
and really changed the
face of the Bigfoot world.
When I see
the Paul Freeman footage
uh, and I try to compare it
to the Patterson film,
I know that there's
lots of similarities.
There are some differences,
but it's...
It's not quite the same
as far as quality goes.
That's kind of what got me
into the Bigfooting thing.
One day, I just
happened to see
a frame from the Patterson film,
and it wasn't anything like
what you see normally on TV.
It told me that I was looking
at something that was, uh, real,
you know, on the earth,
uh, reflecting light
back at the camera.
And from that point on, it
became worthwhile, you know,
to pursue the nature of it,
because it clearly
wasn't, to me,
a modern human.
It was something from long ago,
uh, still on the earth.
What I saw on
the Patterson footage
did not move like
an ape or a gorilla.
It moved like a human,
but like an unusual gait.
Some of the things
that I saw on the film
that were of human-like quality
was the fact that it seem--
Or appeared to manage its hair.
When you got
the better versions
and you saw
the clearer pictures,
you could see that the
hair had been bundled.
In looking at
the Patterson film,
I'd have to say
that I'm 100% convinced
that it's real.
There's two divergent
thoughts on what Bigfoot is.
One side believes
it's an ape, gorilla,
predominantly
Gigantopithecus...
or Paranthropus.
The other school of thought
is it's multidimensional.
It lives between our world
and the spirit world.
The evidence I've found
over the years
with Bigfoot and
other cryptids is
there's a physical and
a nonphysical aspect to it.
For lack of a better term,
we'll call it interdimensional.
So do you think
Bigfoot/Sasquatch
is a multidimensional entity?
It could possibly be.
I'm about 99.9% sure.
It has the ability
to use the portals.
It has the ability to cloak.
They're able to, like,
shift into our dimension
and then shift
out of our dimension.
It's almost like the gateway
drug to the paranormal.
We thought they were just some
kind of unknown type of gorilla
that was out there--
They're more than that.
These things, I believe,
have quantum abilities.
Bigfoot didn't start
with Paul Freeman,
nor did it start with
Patterson/Gimlin in '67
when they got their footage.
I found articles
going back to 1600s
that talk about a biped that
we would know today as Bigfoot.
The first people that
walked on American soil
were Native Americans,
and they have a long history
of dealing with these.
In the era of 1924,
there were a series of
incidents in northwest America
that dealt with miners
being attacked
by the large hairy bipeds
with rocks.
And there was actually
a press conference
held by three Native American
tribes that stated
that they've dealt with
these hairy beings for years
and that they weren't animals
but they were another tribe.
Bigfoot hoaxes hurt
Sasquatch research
because it blurs the line
between fact and fiction.
With the advent of YouTube,
people can put a video up
and emphatically state
that it's truth,
when in reality they
may be completely
putting something
in front of the public
that isn't the truth
and has people believe
that the biped may be
some dumb animal.
So, what we're watching here
is a very short segment
from a documentary
called The Great North.
And it was filmed up in Canada.
And what you're seeing
is a group of caribou
running across the plains here
with a mountain
in the background.
And this segment has
gotten a lot of notoriety
for having a Bigfoot
in the background.
Under standard video screening
on, say, YouTube,
this is a black figure.
And the people tend to think
that because it's moving
through this wilderness area,
that it's got to be a Bigfoot.
Hi, everyone.
Uh, I'm William Reeve,
and, um, it was me that
was behind the camera.
Uh, my camera assistant sent
me the link to this video,
which I didn't know existed
until a few months ago.
I was totally blown away,
and I never dreamed
that I would ever have
a Sasquatch or a Bigfoot
running through one of the
images that I was photographing.
We actually got the IMAX footage
from the original producers
of this documentary.
IMAX offers a greater
definition than standard video.
We ordered this and
we wanted to review it,
and it's pretty surprising
what we found.
We'll start watching right here,
and a person starts
to perk up
over the top of
this little mound.
He throws his right arm up...
brings it down.
He's wearing a backpack.
And it appears
he's riding a bike.
And he disappears
behind the mound,
and the caribou keep going.
There were no strangers
for hundreds of miles
of where we were,
and it was only us
and, uh, a very small crew.
There were no bicycles.
Uh, there was no one on foot.
That's just bad protocol.
Uh, there's absolutely
no way that we would put
a human being, uh,
with 400 caribou.
I have studied the video
at great length.
Not only do I see the Bigfoot
in the foreground
with a youngster on his or
her back along for the ride,
I also see a trio of Bigfoots
hunting and coordinating
an ambush.
That, believers and
non-believers alike,
is my theory,
and I'm sticking to it.
Looking at this,
there's no question
this is not a Bigfoot.
It's a human
apparently riding a bike.
If this hadn't been in IMAX,
I doubt we could have
looked at it in this way
that we're looking
at today to debunk it.
Hoaxes cloud the truth,
but one investigator out
there for almost 50 years
has been vetting out those cases
and presenting some
phenomenal research
in Pennsylvania, and
that was Stan Gordon.
There have been
a long, long history
of Bigfoot activity, going
back many, many years.
Actually, the earliest
account that I have,
where I talked to
a firsthand witness,
goes back to 1931,
near Indian Head,
where there have been
sightings in recent years
up in that same area.
And it's not
just Bigfoot sightings.
Various types of
out-of-place animals,
cryptid sightings, UFOs,
the small spheres of light
low to the ground,
all kind of other
paranormal phenomena
has been reported along
the Chestnut Ridge
for years and years.
In the summer of '73,
we had the biggest Bigfoot
outbreak ever documented.
Hundreds and hundreds of
UFO sightings all year long.
The Bigfoot Field
Research Organization,
also known as BFRO,
has been around
for a long time,
and they have the
largest Web presence
with the most
number of sightings.
When you go in there
and you read the sightings,
you kind of read the same
thing in every report,
and there's very, very
few sighting reports
that talk about
anything paranormal.
- Right.
- Why is that, Thom?
Because that does not
align with their view.
What is their
point of view, Thom?
That it's a
flesh-and-blood creature,
that it is nothing more
than an undiscovered
piece of wildlife
that is, uh, just
good at hiding.
One fellow came to me
and he said,
"I was standing there
in Timber, Oregon,
in a clear-cut,
and there it was,
and it dissolved away,
just like on Star Trek."
He said, "All I want to know
is has anybody else seen that,
because that's what I saw."
Now, this was in the BFRO trash.
They weren't touching
this sighting.
The Sasquatch Outpost
in Colorado,
uh, operated by
Jim and Daphne Myers,
is a great site.
Uh, Jim moved here
from South Africa,
started to have an
interest in Bigfoot,
and developed his research
organization and his shop,
which does outstanding work.
Now, on the wall in the museum,
you have a map of the area,
and people who have
sightings or hear things,
they put pins in. How many
pins are on there now?
Between 350 and 400 pins.
About 120 of those
are eyewitness sightings,
if you want to call it
a Class A sighting.
Patricia Large is unusual.
She is a retired National
Park Service Ranger
from Great Smoky Mountain
National Park.
The Bigfoot tracks
on the wall...
Yes.
...they have some
meaning to you?
Well, I do believe that
there is something out there
that we haven't found yet.
And I don't know what it is.
But, yes, I believe
there is a species out there
that is humanoid.
And it's very kin to us,
and very smart.
Hmm. Did the Rangers
ever talk about it?
Sometimes we would gather
around the bonfire at night
and share stories.
Of-- 99% of them were
about bears.
But every now and then
Bigfoot would come up.
It's unusual
to find a park ranger
that's willing to go on camera
and talk about their experience.
It's even more unusual to
have a sitting congressman
willing to talk
openly and honestly
about their views and their
experience on the Bigfoot topic.
You know, when I was a kid,
I'd go to the library
a couple miles from the house,
ride my bicycle over there
and spend the day
looking at books.
And they had something
on UFOs, Bigfoot
and, um, maybe
Loch Ness Monster.
For some reason,
that just fascinated me.
Do you think
Bigfoot's out there?
I-I-I do. I've talked
to too many people
that have seen them. Why
would people lie about it?
These are professional people.
Why would they risk humiliation?
These are all awards
that shows his bravery,
something that he did in battle
or something he did
for the tribe.
Harvey Pratt has spent
50 years in law enforcement
assistant director
of the Oklahoma
Bureau of Investigation,
the chief forensic artist
for the state of Oklahoma.
In my first two books,
I used Harvey
as the forensic artist
to draw the Bigfoot
that people had seen
in Northern California.
Harvey is a Cheyenne Arapaho
Native American chief,
sits on a council,
and he has always
lived in that world
between
the spirits and Earth.
And his relatives
had told him
that Bigfoot lives
in that dimension.
We interviewed some people,
and one lady said,
"Bigfoot's a devil."
And the other lady said,
"If you see him,
it's a blessing."
And they were the same tribe,
but they had
different viewpoints.
I remember us
looking at your sketches
and being stunned, because
up until that point,
we were all told that
Bigfoot was an ape.
- Yes.
- And those sketches
didn't represent an ape to me.
Not to me either.
You know, they described
more of a human being.
And I remember one young man
said, "Mama, come here.
Look at this.
That's what I saw.
I didn't see a gorilla.
I saw that."
Uh, we've had a lot of sightings
all throughout the years,
I mean, many years before I even
moved on to the reservation.
A lot of them believe
that they're evil,
they're not to be messed with.
Some believe that
they are watchers.
Some believe that
they're just no good.
And some believe that
they're here to help.
Each tribe, they
believe different.
How do you view them?
As friend, foe, ally?
Um, my personal opinion,
I believe they're evil.
When you were growing up,
what kind of information
were you given as a child,
as a teenager, about Bigfoot?
What was the belief
system in the tribe?
Historically, Navajos
are told, you know,
"Bigfoot does exist,
but you leave it alone.
Don't look at them.
Just leave it alone."
Could Bigfoot be
a demonic entity?
I don't think it's demonic.
Although if you look at
doctrines and apologetics
and all that kind
of stuff, you know,
the idea there is
that what of the demons
that were cast out of heaven?
What are the beliefs in
your tribe about Sasquatch?
We believe that Dzoonakwa,
well, our term for Sasquatch,
we believe that they're
just the other tribe.
They are bigger, covered in
hair, live out in the forest,
come to the shellfish beaches
at night to harvest
like we have done
for thousands of years.
And the one thing
aboutDzoonakwa though
is you always respect them.
You never, ever think of
hunting them or harming them.
If they show you that
they're not happy,
like throwing rocks,
shaking trees,
throwing a piece
of driftwood at you,
turn around, walk back where you
came from, and leave them be.
They're just telling you,
"We're here right now.
We don't want you here."
So my research into
whether Bigfoot
is a transdimensional biped
or flesh-and-blood ape
led me to Dr. Robert Alley,
an Alaskan resident at the time
and somebody who had studied
Bigfoot for decades.
Have you ever heard of
a Native group in Alaska
thinking that
Kushtaka,or Sasquatch,
is an ape or a gorilla?
I've never heard
any Tlingit or Haidas
discussing gagits,wild people,
or Kushtakasor Hutslan,
anything like a Sasquatch
as anything other
than a wild person.
Some kinds of Bigfoot
traded with the Natives.
At least the oral traditions
state that very clearly
for these people.
There's a lot of information
that doesn't get talked about:
What is out there in the night,
what attributes
Sasquatches have.
Obviously not an ape.
You can't have swimming,
you can't have speech
and various kinds of
sophisticated communication,
never mind the paranormal things
that no ape could certainly do.
Bigfoot's perceived
as both an ape/gorilla
in the physical sense.
And in the spiritual,
multidimensional sense
as a crossover being
from multidimensions.
In the real sense, it
leaves footprints and DNA.
And at times it's seen on the
doorsteps of people's homes.
And in the Native American
community, this isn't uncommon.
In my research, there's
always been a lot of talk
about you investigating
unusual things
that most people would never
think you would step into:
UFOs, Bigfoot, Skinwalker.
Our director
actually assigned us.
I like to say we were
"volun-told" to do this,
and so we just looked at
each other and we said,
"Wow, you know, I guess
we're Navajo X-Files."
We had over 30 sightings of
people that reported Bigfoot
along the San Juan River
up in the Bloomfield
to Shiprock area.
A lot of the people
have seen this Bigfoot
coming through their property.
It's like a highway for
them to go back and forth.
My husband had
just left for work.
He was working
the graveyard shift, so he
left the house about 10:30.
And then about 15,
20 minutes later,
I could hear something
walking on the gravel.
What caught my attention
was the dogs.
They were really
crying, whimpering.
And they were under the porch.
I'm like, "Why are they crying?
What are they doing?"
Next thing you know,
it got onto the porch.
I hear the screen door open
and I see the
door knob doing this.
And what I was looking at
was all covered in hair.
The smell was bad,
like a dead animal,
musky smell.
We just looked at each other.
Just darted off the porch.
It was gone.
Me and Stan started
tracking this creature.
We tracked it
for about a mile or so.
It looked exactly like a
large version of a human track.
It had five toes.
It was very flat and wide.
This particular track
measured 21 inches.
So unless something's out there
bigger than Shaquille O'Neal,
I wouldn't want to
meet it, you know?
I mean, it's big.
Both me and Stan are
very, very good trackers.
In this case, we have a 5-foot
stride from heel to heel.
We get to a point where
the tracks disappear.
They just-- They're gone.
We lost the tracks
in trackable ground.
Now, you know, you ask,
what does that mean?
Well, if the thing
had taken another step,
it would have left a footprint.
That's what we call
trackable ground.
We come to find out that this
is a regular thing up there.
The unusual
and frightening encounters
that happen on tribal lands
aren't restricted
to just reservations.
There's thousands
of encounters and reports
throughout the U.S.,
Canada and the world.
My name is Angela
and I live on the
outskirts of Pittsburgh
and woke up on the morning
sometime in January 2018
and saw some strange-looking
tracks in my yard.
Describe them to us.
Something I had not
ever really seen before.
It went through the swing set.
I think
Bigfoot was here.
Like no joke.
Maybe 6 feet apart.
They were far apart.
So if you look out
the window here,
they started probably
right about
where the bush ends right here,
and then continue down
towards the swing set.
And just ended there.
Have you seen anything unusual?
One time I was sleeping
and, I don't know,
maybe 3:00 in the morning
or whatever it was,
I woke up and I swear
through the window
I saw these two yellow
eyes staring at me.
So that's 8 feet
to the brick line.
Add another 6 inches
for the eyes,
you have 8 and a half feet.
What'd you think
you were looking at?
I had no idea at the time.
There was a part of me,
I felt horrified,
but then I kind of felt like
it wasn't here to harm me.
Every investigator
has that moment
where it changes
everything for him.
And in Paul Freeman's
world, that happened
when he was outside of
Walla Walla, Washington,
in the Blue Mountains
and he came across something
that he initially
couldn't explain.
And that led him on a path,
a life's journey
to try to understand
what he was working around.
The custodian of all
of Paul's research now
is his son, Michael.
He worked for the United
States Forest Service.
As?
A boundary patrolman,
or what they call an outrider.
He'd been in that area
for about 15 years,
finding tracks, hearing of
other people having encounters.
I was 5 years old when he had
his first sighting
and encounter in 1982.
It was one of the days
that I patrolled
in an outside boundary.
I was coming around the curve
on an old logging spur
and, uh, it was
kind of an S-curve.
And I was coming around
one end of it
and this Bigfoot was
coming off on the other end.
Stepped right off into the road
just as I come around.
I looked up and he looked up,
and the hair stood up on
the thing's shoulders and head,
and it gave me a frown
like it was gonna jump on me.
And I just watched
it walk away,
until he was out of sight
and I went out of sight too.
I didn't know what it was.
I thought, well, some
kind of prehistoric man.
So, many people believe
that we're dealing with
an undiscovered ape or gorilla.
Others have found that
there's unusual qualities
associated with these bipeds.
And in a rare event,
we were able to meet
a first responder who had
an encounter with the biped
of an unusual nature.
We were coming to standby here.
And at midnight...
dark road, two-lane road...
...something crossed the road
in front of our ambulance
on two feet,
and then all the electronics
in our ambulance went out.
We both looked at each
other like we thought
we had turned them off,
but neither of us
had touched any buttons.
All of my hair stood up
because I didn't know
what I was looking at.
You're looking at something
that's not supposed to be real,
-you're told.
-Did you see a Bigfoot?
I'm not saying it was a Bigfoot,
but it was a Bigfoot.
The Bigfoot community is huge
but is kind of divided between
those who would say
Bigfoot is more of an ape,
therefore has
intelligence of an ape,
versus Bigfoot is
more of a person,
a type of person with
a high level of intelligence
and capable of doing things
that are beyond
the realm of normal.
And it's firmly divided
down those lines.
It's almost like
a political division
between Democrats
and Republicans.
My thinking on Sasquatch
has changed quite a bit
over the years.
I began this thinking
that they were just
an undiscovered ape,
another form of wildlife.
And within a few years,
I had learned
that they have abilities
that we can't quite grasp yet.
They can do things that
nobody would ever expect
any other form of wildlife
to be able to do.
They're very capable in
the woods as physical beings
and as nonphysical beings.
And it took me a long time
to fully wrap
my head around that.
I've always been after evidence
that can be analyzed
and that is quantifiable
and can be replicated.
So I'm after science, but
the problem is with Bigfoot,
I don't know what science
I'm trying to grab.
Everybody in
the Bigfoot community
started at the same
place 50 years ago.
But things have changed
over those 50 years.
Technology has increased.
We've had so many
more sightings
and experiences and encounters.
How about orbs in association
with Bigfoot activity?
Very recently, I took my team
who work for me
out in the woods,
and we saw what
we believe was...
was eye glow from a...
from a Sasquatch,
and we were focused on that.
And one of the women
on my team behind us
just started snapping pictures
in the dark with her flash.
And in one of her pictures,
there is an orb
up in the tree in the
direction we were looking.
Completely obvious.
Blue-green, glowing,
probably the size
of a basketball.
So could that have been
a car headlight or...?
No. No.
We were a mile away
from any cars.
It was pitch black
in the middle of the woods
about 10 o'clock at night.
You showed me a picture
earlier of an orb,
and when you expanded it,
it looked a lot like
something was inside.
It did.
It looks like a face
in the middle of this orb.
Could Bigfoot be
multidimensional,
coming through a portal?
Anything is possible
with Bigfoot.
So Jim was part of that
growing body of researchers
that has done extensive work
and transitioned from
that ape/gorilla
to multidimension/portal.
Sasquatch/Bigfoot in
Native American culture
has been something that's
been taken seriously
for hundreds of years.
And a man that's
lived it, seen it
and experienced it is Tom.
When people ask me, "What
do you think of Sasquatches?"
They're the perfect human.
As I've been taught
by the tribes,
they have laws,
very strict laws.
They have language. They
have culture. They sing.
So you believe they're another
tribe of Native Americans?
Absolutely.
Many of the tribes believe
-that they came from the stars.
-Yes.
A group out of Oklahoma said
that they came from
a star that came over
and let down and they
spilled out of that star.
What's something
that you've learned
by... by studying and
working on this topic
that you think
the public doesn't know?
What a lot of people don't
know is about wormholes.
Things walk into it, you know.
And I've interviewed
several people that...
A guy in Southern California
watched an older one
and a big, massive one,
looked like they were
talking to one another.
And he's looking at them,
and the big one turns
and walks into that portal.
It was shimmering,
and he just disappeared.
Like you walk through
a curtain, he said.
He just kind of,
like, disintegrated.
As he walked into it,
he just disintegrated.
I think that he travels
in those dimensions.
And I think that's what a lot
of people don't understand,
the-- the dimensions that
we're involved in, you know.
Scott Nelson is a Navy linguist,
and his specialty
was deciphering
complex language and codes.
Scott, how did you get
from a retired Navy position
to be associated with Bigfoot?
Well, first thing I'd
like to say about that
is I was never a Bigfoot guy.
I'm only a language guy.
And one day I had
my son, Stephen.
He had a report
that he had to do.
He was 12 years old.
And I said, "What do you want
to write it on? I'll help you."
He says, "Okay, Bigfoot."
Well, Stephen said, "Dad,
what do you think
Bigfoots sound like?"
I said, "Well, let's Google it."
So I literally Googled
"Bigfoot sounds."
And it brought me up
to the, uh, "Samurai Chatter"
directly on the BFRO website.
I listened to a
couple clips of those
and immediately I heard
something in there...
that was very strange to me.
I said, "Stephen,
there's language.
This is language.
That is not a human being."
My name is
Ron Morehead, and, uh,
I'm one of the original
Sierra camp members,
one of the few surviving ones
that was up there
and recorded their
sounds and interactions
that we had with them
during those years.
Ron Morehead
was a hunter.
He and his friends
established a camp
in the Sierra Mountains.
And his friends
started to experience
unusual things
happening in the camp:
sounds, language, tracks.
And it evolved over
years to the point
where Ron brought
a tape recorder up
and recorded the sounds
that they were hearing.
Dr. Kirlin, who
did the original study
on the sounds,
spent a year doing this.
And he's an electrical engineer
who does this for
the government too.
And he found that
there was no indication
of anything being manipulated
in those tapes.
Al Berry gave him the original
tapes that he made up there.
And they hadn't been
speeded up, slowed down.
There was outside, inside,
below the human range.
And he's established
the tapes were genuine.
And I think an
important part of this
is this is pre-digitalization.
-Yes.
-So it couldn't be manipulated.
Correct.
Okay, here's my
little exchange, 1974.
This is three years after
the initial contact with, uh...
Right there, that's...
That was the night
I got a glimpse of one.
And so did Bill, my friend.
It was just the two
of us in camp.
We'd spent the day
taking supplies in
on horses and mules.
We don't know what
they're saying, but, uh,
definitely communicating
in some way.
There were three of them,
we believe.
There was a big samurai cry
you heard from the back.
And, uh-- But there was a small
voice and a larger voice
down by the creek,
just coming down on it.
We were outside the shelter,
which was very unusual
for them to interact
or even to do anything
while we were outside.
But, uh, that was a fun night.
Exciting, really.
So Scott Carpenter and I
were in the Great Smoky
Mountains National Park
when he recorded
sounds very similar
to what were recorded in
the Sierras by Ron Morehead.
We sent those sounds
to Scott Nelson,
who said that this
was the first time
he had ever heard a recording
outside of the Sierra Sounds
that mimicked the language
he had seen in the Sierras.
This was the first time
Scott had validation
that the Bigfoot
he was experiencing
in the Great Smoky Mountains
were associated with
the Bigfoot in the Sierras.
And that there was
a human quality to it.
He also had recorded
unusual things
that surprised him:
a Bigfoot appearing
to be transitioning
from that spirit world
to our world.
Well, you know, if you
watch the video,
you can see this...
looks like a portal,
like a big ball of water.
It actually has
an event horizon.
And this... this creature,
this Sasquatch is in it.
He starts off
kind of shimmering,
like he's materializing.
As I get further away,
it gets clearer and clearer
and more consistent.
And as I get further away,
the event horizon
gets very distinct.
In my opinion, it's
some sort of portal open.
He was coming through it
or looking through it.
Technically, whatever did
this and why it did it
was thinking, "Well,
he's not looking now.
I'm going to manifest
or I'm going to come
through the portal."
To the best of my knowledge,
I don't think anyone's
-caught anything like that.
-Yeah.
-Have you?
-I've never known anybody
to catch a live
portal in operation.
Yeah, I think I
was very fortunate.
The Great Smoky Mountains
is steeped in Bigfoot lore.
It's just not portals.
There's something else at play.
You showed me a video that
you had taken with FLIR?
Yeah. Well, it's
a pulsar thermal.
- Of an orb?
- Mm-hmm.
That was over on
the North Carolina side
of the National Park.
And you'd told me before
that you had had
other orb sightings
in conjunction with
your Bigfoot research, correct?
Yeah.
So the question
comes back to,
do you see some
correlation between
-the orbs and the Bigfoot?
-Absolutely.
Um, there's been times
when it actually, uh,
interacted with me.
I don't know if it
was a Bigfoot or not,
you know, because
you don't see it.
'Cause it's dark,
but it's just...
The two go hand in hand.
I mean, you've got Bigfoot,
you've got orbs,
and you've got weird lights.
It's just, I can't explain it.
You think Bigfoot has some
type of paranormal abilities?
It's got abilities that
we don't understand,
and that's not normal,
so I would call that
paranormal, yeah.
There have been many, many
cases over the years
where if you have a UFO
sighting in a certain area,
within minutes to hours
and sometimes days later
in the same area,
you'll have a Bigfoot sighting
and then a UFO sighting
or vice versa.
Stan Gordon has worked
in the Bigfoot research field
for over 50 years, and he has
encountered several people
that have had some of
the most unusual incidents
happen to them as related
to Bigfoot as I've ever heard.
I'm not suggesting
when we're talking about
these UFO and Bigfoot cases
that these creatures
are pilots or passengers
in a spaceship
from another planet,
'cause we don't know
what the UFOs really are
or where they come from.
I said years ago,
that there's more
than one origin
to the unknown category
of a UFO phenomenon,
but they seem to
have the capability
to appear and disappear,
to change physical form,
and it's not just in PA,
it's all over the country
and sometimes around the world
of similar type of experience,
-so you can't eliminate it.
-You ever have anything of--
About a Bigfoot holding
a ball of light?
During that '73 outbreak
in north of Pittsburgh,
two women outside
waiting for a friend
to pick them up on the country,
They see this 7-,
8-foot tall Bigfoot
carrying a glowing
ball of light.
And a short time later,
this object came
across the sky,
projected a beam of light
down into the woods
where the creature ran into.
The object took off, and
that was the end of the story.
The association
of UFOs and Bigfoot
in tribal areas is numerous.
When I was in Hoopa
and I wrote The Hoopa Project,
the Native Americans
would tell me
that they always saw
UFOs in the same area
that Bigfoot were seen.
And in New Mexico and Arizona,
it's a frequent association
between the two
from numerous tribes.
You said something earlier
that tweaked something
in my mind.
Many people have put together
UFO sightings and Bigfoot.
Have you ever seen
any correlation
between the two
on the reservation?
Uh, yes, we've actually
encountered things
for 30 years, 31 years,
my whole career.
And what we started seeing,
they called them UFO flaps,
where you have a greater
activity of UFO sightings.
During those flaps,
we would see increases
in Bigfoot sightings
that corresponded
to the UFO sightings,
or vice versa.
So it was almost a given thing
that if we had
more UFO sightings,
by the same token, we'd
have more Bigfoot sightings.
We've had people describe
them as a loud pop,
that just the sound went through
your body like a blow.
And they look up
and there's this ball
floating in the sky above them.
After a while, it flies
around a little bit
and then it just suddenly
fades out and disappears.
We think that they're coming
in through a parallel
or a different dimension, a
different frequency from ours,
and that displacement of air
is what's causing that sound.
In the same token,
the Bigfoot is, uh, also able
to manipulate these portals.
So we came up with the opinion
that Bigfoot is
a pandimensional being.
And what bolsters that
is that we have
not found his bones,
we have not found his scat,
we have not found any evidence
that he lives there
on a long-term basis.
Scott Carpenter and I worked on
the DNA project for many years.
We developed ways to get
the DNA off of the Bigfoot
by way of hair samples.
Early in the DNA study,
they learned that they couldn't
get the mitochondrial DNA
from just a hair shaft alone.
And you reached out
to me and said,
"Man, when we get hairs,
we've got to get
the follicle with it."
Just kind of me and you
brainstorming together,
we kind of came up
with the idea to, uh...
to take the packing tape,
because it's extremely sticky,
and wrap it sticky side out
near the baits.
And I was trying to think,
"What in the world, you know,
could I use that would
really attract the Bigfoot?"
And we'd always kidded about,
you know, slapping bacon on--
The grease on people's backs
and sending them
in the woods as bait.
And I said, "Oh, let's
try the bacon grease."
I took the bacon grease
as far up as I could reach,
started doing it that way,
and then began to get results.
They would lean up
against the tree,
lick bacon grease
out of the bark,
as crazy as it sounds.
They'd pull chest hair
or they'd pull belly hair out,
and we were able
to get viable samples.
Bigfoot hair is very unique.
The human hair, outside
is extremely smooth.
The scales are small.
And the Sasquatch hair,
you've got rough, scaly hair.
You can definitely
tell the difference
between in the medulla
of a human hair
and the Sasquatch hair.
So the Bigfoot hair
almost looks like it has guards
on it or scales or something.
Scales, yeah. Where
the human hair really is smooth.
We submitted those hair
samples to Dr. Ketchum.
And Dr. Ketchum used
a team of five PhDs
and seven certified labs
to extricate the DNA
and to get it categorized.
Tell us what those results were.
Well, the mitochondrial
DNA was human,
which was kind of a shocker.
I wasn't expecting
it to be human.
I was expecting it
to be, you know,
some sort of weird
or odd thing.
After many years of work,
we came to the conclusion
that the DNA was a mix
between human and unknown.
The unknown DNA is something
that hadn't been seen
by science and
couldn't be explained.
When they did the
comparison to GenBank,
they used what's called
a BLAST search,
a BLAST engine, which
is a Google engine
for the GenBank database.
It didn't match
any of the sequences
that were in GenBank. Unknown.
And GenBank contains
all of the DNA
that has been classified
-in the world.
-That's correct.
So the mitochondrial DNA
came back to a human female
12- to 15,000 years
in the Middle East.
The nuclear DNA shows the
male side of the equation,
and in 352 billion
base pairs in GenBank,
which is the worldwide
receptacle of DNA,
it had never been matched.
The argument that came
back against our DNA project
is that the DNA was contaminated
by one of the researchers.
And I want people to
understand this clearly,
that if, say, I contaminated
that DNA sample,
then the male side
of that DNA sample
would have shown a Greek
person on the male side.
It wouldn't have shown nothing
or it wouldn't have
been unclassified.
So that's why
the contaminated argument
against the DNA is baseless.
L.A., I know that you spent
time with Ron Morehead
-in South America.
-Mm-hmm.
That was about the
elongated skulls, right?
-Correct.
-And you did
-DNA on that, correct?
-Yes, we did. Extensive.
Out of the 58 samples that
we took from 18 skulls,
we didn't get
nuclear DNA from that.
But we got a preponderance
of mitochondrial DNA
coming from the female line
or the maternal line
of the equation. This--
It rewrites history.
L.A. has done some
phenomenal work
regarding the skulls,
the ancient skulls,
and that has taken him
down the same DNA road
that we were on,
and those results
could have lasting
impact on our work.
So, what did the
DNA results tell you?
Well, the DNA results told me
that it upholds our hypothesis
that 3500 years ago,
these people came
from the Middle East.
So we found nuclear DNA,
but that even added more
to the mystery because...
-Unknown.
-Unknown.
I knew it. I knew you
were gonna say that.
That's been our
hypothesis from day one,
that when you do
get nuclear DNA,
there'll be nothing in the
GenBank which will show it.
Squatch sightings
go through the roof.
Something is going on,
and now they're becoming
more and more prevalent.
Are these the beasts
of the Earth?
In my opinion, they are.
They can pop in,
they can pop out.
Twelve feet tall, 14 feet tall.
L.A. Marzulli and
his research has shown
that the DNA has come from
something that's non-human.
To get a better interpretation
of his results and our DNA,
we went to Dr. Robert Alley.
-The Bigfoot DNA study, valid?
-Valid, absolutely valid.
If you got into genetics,
it's pretty obvious.
If you're doing the genome,
it's very, very obvious indeed.
So the Haida people,
what type of paranormal
things did they talk about?
The Tlingit talk about
different kinds of beings.
You've got your regular
Sasquatch, you know,
that could be a Sasquatch.
"Hutslan" was
an old Tlingit word
that the southern
Tlingits used.
The word "Kushtaka" is
a shape-shifting creature,
and it can take
the shape of a human
or a Sasquatch or
an otter or a raven,
any number of other things.
A Sasquatch is a Sasquatch,
but aKushtaka can be
anything it wants.
Is there any
relationship between
Kushtaka,Sasquatch,
orbs and UFOs
in the traditions
of the Natives here?
Traditions of orbs and energy
is something that we
have no real, uh, terms for.
It's spirit energy.
So in different tribal groups,
you'll hear the terms
"light" or "spirit."
Uh, it's difficult to tie
that energy, a Sasquatch,
uh, with... with things
like UFOs, but it's possible.
So Dr. Alley validated the DNA,
and he had worked around
indigenous tribal people
in the Pacific Northwest.
And those individuals explained
that Sasquatch had many
human-like traits.
The question is,
could those traits
translate into human speech?
And that's where we
turn to Scott Nelson.
It took me four months to
transcribe almost 90 minutes
between the Al Berry tape
and the Ron Morehead tape.
What makes it language?
Everything that you can
imagine, from the inflections,
from the streaming
together of phonemes
to create a morpheme stream,
what we would call a sentence,
where individual morphemes
are stated in one sentence
and repeated in another,
like in question-and-answer.
There's query inflection,
the uses of language that
humans use language for:
intimidation, expression
of aggression and emotion,
all of these things.
"Befawadi." "Befalulu."
Repetition of a morpheme,
both in query inflection
and in response reflection.
Here you have the female
going, "Befawadi,"
and the male going, "Befalulu."
The repeated morpheme, "Bef."
What that means, of course,
we have no clue.
One of the three conclusions
I drew immediately
is that this could not be fake.
What was Ron's response
when you came back to him
-and told him what you found?
-It was interesting,
because after four months,
I traveled out to California
to meet Al and Ron together.
We sat down with
a beer and I said,
"I cannot believe
that I'm the first guy
in all these years
that has ever told you
that there's a
language in here."
They looked at each other and
Ron turned to me and says,
"Scott, we always knew.
We've been trying
to find a guy like you
for 35 years to
corroborate what we--
We knew they were
trying to talk to us
and that they were
talking to each other.
We couldn't understand
a word of it, but we knew."
So have you taken much
flack over the years
in saying that it's language?
Not from anybody
who's actually sat down
and listened to
my presentation.
You know, either
it's an angel, a demon,
or a gigantic creature
native to this planet,
or maybe not native
to this planet,
that can speak a language.
But it's not human.
Do apes speak a language?
No, they can't.
They-- They don't have the
apparatus that humans have.
Whatever this is makes
exactly the same sounds,
creates the same phonemes with
a few extra that we can't make.
But whatever it is has
the same tracheal tree
vocal cavity, lips,
tongue, lungs.
All those things that
we create language with,
these creatures, whatever they
are, have that same apparatus.
So Scott Nelson
did phenomenal work
regarding language
associated with Sasquatch.
Other physical evidence was
obtained by Paul Freeman
that could change the face
of Bigfoot research.
This is actually the original
cast from the original sighting,
June 10th, 1982.
This was taken from
the Mill Creek drainage,
uh, right there
in the watershed.
This is a knuckle print,
and this was part of the tracks
that were found six days later
by my dad and the other
Forest Service employee.
It certainly appears
that this hand came down
into the ground,
knuckles and thumb.
We found about 40 tracks
that we could follow.
They had, like, fingerprints,
what they call
"dermal ridges" on them.
The dermal ridges were
where they should be
on an animal that weigh
600 to 1000 pounds.
And what's so funny about it
is it just seems like
sometimes their tracks
just disappear.
You see a lot of strange things
that happen in the mountains,
that you just can't put
an answer to a lot of it.
This is actually
part of the dermal set,
the tracks that Grover Krantz
was so crazy about
and took to, uh, the symposium
at the University
of British Columbia.
Uh, he also gave them to
the Smithsonian Institution,
which is where the originals
are still today.
And then this cast
here is from 1984,
a location called Table Springs,
and this is the individual
that we call Wrinklefoot.
And Wrinklefoot is kind of
our elder female of the group,
thought to be an old female,
possibly crippled.
There are signs of some
injuries to her feet, scarring,
and even some signs of
possible, like, bunions.
And we see her in 1984,
we see her in 1987,
we see her in 1988,
and we possibly see her in 1992.
From everything we've seen,
it's hard to say that Bigfoot is
just a flesh-and-blood creature.
There's too many
unusual side features
and abilities that Bigfoot
has that we've exposed.
We both agree that these
things are high intellect
and they have
special abilities.
They throw so many things
at you at the camp.
It's almost as though they're
studying your response to them.
Mm-hmm. They don't need
us for much of anything.
They study us
and they play with us,
and they were toying
with us at times.
They hear them over there,
but they don't
see 'em, and, uh...
stuff like that happens.
And I think that they
were messing with us
to see what we'd do.
This is an extremely
complex creature.
How is it able
to remain elusive?
How is it able to portray
complex and strategic thinking?
It's not simply some creature
which would have an IQ
akin to a... a dog.
On the intellect scale,
if this is an ape
and this is a human,
they are over here.
They are way beyond all of us.
I think they also have a method
of tuning into your frequency.
If you find that frequency,
according to Einstein,
you can change matter.
So somehow they're able
to reach the frequency
to change their matter
to energy, I think,
and go out of our perception.
Which we only see
within 430-770 terahertz.
'Cause you hear things
like our camp, we thought,
was being tore apart, and
it's not being tore apart.
So you don't know if they're
messing with your head
and all of us thinking
the same thing or...
or if you're listening
in to another dimension.
Dr. Christopher Blair,
West Texas A&M,
said everything from the atom
all the way through the cosmos
works under the laws
of quantum physics
but rides on the back of our
three-dimensional environment,
which is what we live in today,
which I'll consider
everything we can see
and feel and touch
with our senses.
When you understand
how things really work,
there's things out there we
just don't see or understand
through the three-dimensional
environment
that we're living in.
So the orbs that you
saw around camp...
-Uh-huh.
-...it's too coincidental
that it's all happening
in the same place,
-wouldn't you say?
-Well, uh...
I think it's a form of energy.
I don't know what's special
about that area,
but as you know, after
we left, it burned.
Ron Morehead's work has
shown that Bigfoot lives
in that veil between reality,
multidimensions and portals,
and this has been seen
and the research
has been continued
by Joe Hauser at
the Montana Vortex,
where that same veil
seems unusually thin.
So we actually
started a guided tour
based on things we've
discovered in the energy field
over the first few years
we were here.
And when you say energy
field, what do you mean?
Well, it's a geomagnetic
or electromagnetic anomaly,
and on any given day, we have
more electromagnetic energy
on the grounds than we do
in the surrounding area.
One of the other truly
fascinating videos I've seen
is in the House of Mystery,
there appears to be a form of...
like a Bigfoot that
comes out of the side
and kind of hangs
out and moves.
First of all,
there's a big blue circle
that appears in there,
and there shouldn't be
anything like that in there,
and we think that
could potentially be
some sort of portal.
But then there's
light or energy
bleeding in from the left
side of the House of Mystery,
and this thing came out of
that light or that energy,
and it kind of floated
up across the room,
floated to the other side,
out of the camera's view,
and then, oh, probably
about a minute later,
it has like this spiritual,
fluffy, uh, presence...
and then it walks back through
in a physical presence.
As it walks across, you can
see, like, a sagittal crest.
When it turns sideways,
you can see the shoulders.
And its head sits right on...
right on its shoulders
with no neck.
And then it kind of
moves over this way
and then turns back and
looks over its shoulder.
And in that point,
there's no doubt
that it has
a physical presence.
We've done different
experiments here
to raise the energy
of the vortex
to try to create a tipping
point or an event horizon
to possibly open a portal.
And we felt if we could
get the energy high enough,
that we might cause
something to happen.
The unusual things that
have happened at the vortex
happened to our film crew
when we were on site there
filming an event.
We saw UFOs in the sky.
We've seen things
captured on cameras.
And people that have
worked at the vortex
actually have photographed
a Bigfoot behind them,
unknowing it was even there.
While I'm on the
property, every now and then
I'll take selfies in a really
pretty spot on the property,
and I'll go and I'll
post it so that I'm like,
"Come on, you guys,
come to the vortex."
It wasn't even until
a few days later,
my husband was going
through my pictures with me
and I just... I just
kind of go, "What's that?
Is that what I think
it looks like?"
What did Joe
think it was?
Oh, he knew it
was a Bigfoot right away.
What do you say about
the so-called "researchers"
who claim they've
been doing this
for decades and
decades and decades
and they've never had
anything unusual,
paranormal or supernatural
happen around them?
I've been doing this 11 years,
and I've had more encounters
than I can count
where something happened
that was beyond
the realm of normal.
So I would put it in
the realm of paranormal.
Like Bigfoot disappearing,
I've seen things that were
cloaked in the woods,
moving with color, that
there was nothing there.
In the last 25 years,
there is high strangeness
attached to almost every
meaningful Bigfoot encounter
in some form or fashion.
Well, as far as
people discounting,
you know, the, uh...
the stranger side of Bigfoot,
I don't know why they would.
If you're out to
solve the problem,
you're going to have to
know all aspects of it.
We know something
through physics now
that we didn't used to know.
We know that there
were, uh, dimensions,
and they didn't really
understand what a dimension was,
but now they pretty much do.
So can a Bigfoot
manipulate light?
I say that's quite possible.
It's too many people
say they just disappear.
We found a set of tracks
going across the sandbar.
They were-- They were
4 inches deep.
I couldn't even begin to
put a dent in the ground.
And then they stopped.
There was no more.
So the day
that I walked up
behind my cabin,
me and my dog...
I heard a deep, "Rrr!"
And that's when I saw:
My first thought was gorilla.
I was a little bit confused,
because we don't have
gorillas in Washington.
So the thought process was,
"Oh, my gosh, it's Bigfoot."
And in the first instant
that I was looking at him,
he was looking
directly at me.
And then he turned,
and when he turned,
I could see he had
big, bony ridges
that went up either
side of his head,
and it was carved out
flat in the middle.
But these bony ridges
went up into a huge cone.
And I knew that this
was only going to be
a few seconds with
this experience,
so I did everything I could
to just make a mental
picture in my head to--
So that I could remember it.
He had a massive jaw,
a flattish nose,
very dark, deep-set eyes
and a very heavy brow.
And above that brow,
it was just empty space
where we would have a forehead.
He had no hair on his face.
It was pasty, pale white.
It was black hair growing
out from the sides,
straight back, and from
the sides of those ridges.
And that went down
the back of his head
and fanned out beautifully
across his back.
I knew that one more step and
he would be out in the open,
and I would have
full view of him.
And he took that last step...
and it was as if he stepped
behind an invisible curtain.
He just wasn't there anymore.
And I stood and I stared at
that spot for a good 10 minutes.
And I looked down at my dog,
she was staring at
the same place I had.
She hadn't made a sound,
hadn't moved the entire time.
I knew that she was trying
to figure it out too.
And I spent the next two days
just trying to wrap my head
around what had happened,
because I had never even
heard of "cloaking" before.
I didn't know it was an option.
I saw a Sasquatch and it
vanished into thin air.
And at that point,
I was comfortable enough
to tell people that I
had seen a Sasquatch.
The National Institute for
Discovery of Sciences,
NIDS, was an organization
started by Robert Bigelow,
who eventually purchased
Skinwalker Ranch.
The idea behind the
purchasing of the ranch
was to understand UFO energy
and their propulsion systems.
What's happened since then
is that opened up a research
area on orbs, Bigfoot,
unusual things
that have happened
in and around the ranch
in the 20 years
that they had physicists,
scientists and researchers
on site 24/7.
My name is Colm Kelleher.
I was the project manager
reporting to Robert Bigelow
on Skinwalker Ranch
starting in 1996.
And then for
the AAWSAP program,
which was a government-funded
defense intelligence
agency program
that ran between 2008 and 2010,
also associated with
Skinwalker Ranch.
We had a $22 million contract
from the Defense Intelligence
Agency that lasted 27 months.
And that's one of the things
that we were following up
on both,
you know, the UFO phenomenon.
And there were
nuts-and-bolts objects seen
on the Skinwalker Ranch,
as well as a whole bunch
of unusual creatures
and also a lot
of paranormal phenomena.
You said that you actually
had some researchers
that were working an area
for Bigfoot evidence.
Well, Bigfoot was one of these,
um, I guess you would class it
as an anomaly that, um...
that seemed to show up.
There were multiple stories
of Bigfoot being spotted
around Skinwalker Ranch by
a lot of security officers.
I mean, there was
one famous case
where we interviewed
this security officer
who had come upon this dog that
was barking extremely weirdly.
And he noticed that
the dog was fixed--
You know, fixed
in the attention.
So he walked closer
and closer and closer,
and he started smelling
this god-awful smell.
And standing in the sort
of shadows was Bigfoot.
It was like no more than
maybe 60 feet away from him.
Bigfoot saw the security
officer approaching...
and then ran straight down
towards the village
of Fort Duchesne,
which is the headquarters
of the tribe.
They couldn't find it,
but like two days later...
...another security officer
and his partner were driving,
and as they turned the corner,
their headlights picked up
this large Bigfoot
on the side of the road,
looked like it was
eating something.
By the time they got out
of the car, it had run off.
We kept on bumping up
against Bigfoot.
Towards the end of NIDS'
presence at Skinwalker Ranch,
they entered into an agreement
with the Department of Defense
to have their people
come out and study
what was happening there.
And that continued
for two years.
And what they were looking at
was the same unusual features
that they'd been
studying for 20 years.
It was two,
uh, investigators.
They were both
part of the NIDS team.
This was about 2 a.m.
They had been on the ridge,
Skinwalker Ridge.
Just as they were packing
up their equipment,
one of them saw this
sort of dull light
that was on the track
on the ground.
And it seemed to be
getting bigger
and it seemed to be
getting brighter.
They said, "Okay,
well, you know,
we've got to investigate this."
One guy had
night-vision binoculars.
And then the guy with
the night-vision binoculars
started really freaking out,
because through the
night-vision binoculars,
this guy was seeing something
completely different
from his partner who
was standing beside him.
This thing had reached about
probably 6 feet in diameter now.
Through the night-vision
binoculars,
this thing looked like
a three-dimensional tunnel.
The guy beside him
just couldn't see that.
And he saw movement
in the tunnel.
You know, there was something
crawling through this tunnel.
And at this stage,
this guy was getting
very sort of freaked out.
Large human-type figure,
you know, maybe
6 feet, 6 feet 5.
No features, just black torso.
Seemed like it was big,
seemed like it was,
you know, heavily muscled.
This creature, whatever
it was, crawled through
and actually maneuvered out
of the tunnel onto the ground,
stood up beside the tunnel
and moved quickly
into the night.
There seems to be
a general thinking
amongst theoretical physicists
that these exist.
Is that what your team saw?
-You mean wormholes?
-Wormholes.
The theoretical physics says
that there's enormous amounts
of energies required
in order to open up
a throat, a wormhole throat.
However, you know,
there's no evidence
of where would that
source of energy be
on Skinwalker Ranch at 2 a.m.
in the middle of the night
when something like
this happens?
So the main sort of
bumping up against Bigfoot
that NIDS and, uh...
and we have done
is always in the context
with the UFO phenomenon.
And, you know, there are
multiple, multiple instances
where they co-locate.
Is there some kind
of bleed-through
that's happening with
the UFO phenomenon
as it moves into what we
would call our reality?
And is there a process
where other creatures
and other phenomena are
kind of dragged through
as collateral damage?
Whatever happens with
the UFO phenomenon
as it moves through,
it seems to correlate
with an increase in
paranormal activity.
People see a lot
of weird creatures,
not only Bigfoot
but other creatures too.
So it's almost like a paranormal
Disneyland that erupts
when you've got a lot of UFO
activity in the environment.
Up near the ranch, there is
a circular profile of rocks
that are-- They're huge.
I mean, these are not
naturally occurring boulders.
They are something that was
placed there purposely.
Within these rocks,
there's a mound.
And in order to get up
to the top of the mound,
there's a circular trail.
If you looked at it from
above, forms a spiral.
There's some petroglyphs
on those boulders
that indicate that this was
put in 500 to 700 years ago,
possibly by the Fremont people.
This is a place of...
of ceremony.
The original spiral is
a sign of migration.
This is what I've been
told by Navajos and Hopis.
But if you look at migration,
the Navajos came
through several worlds
to get to this world.
They climbed up through
a hole in the sky
and entered into another world.
So what I've done is
I've reinterpreted this
as a migration through
different dimensions.
And it's the only theory
that actually fits,
which makes the Navajo creation
story all the more real.
It ceases to become a myth
and actually becomes
a word-for-word oral history.
Back in 2009, my youngest
son and my nephew
were out, playing
around outside,
and they come
running in, they said,
"Mama, I've got
to show you something.
Look at this footprint."
I'm like... "Oh."
You know, my eyes got big,
and I'm like, "No, no,
they can't be," you know.
When I measured the footprint,
it was about... a little
over 18 inches long
and about 4 inches wide.
We went ahead and
set up the camera
in the kitchen window.
The next day, I...
I went through it.
It looks like it really just
boils up from the ground,
takes a step into the pool,
in a running stance
to the west. Then it's gone.
You talked
about a portal.
That happened years
and years ago.
Somebody got wind of it
and it was in the paper.
I was hiking to the Cascades,
and it's a pretty rugged hike.
On that hike, about
three-quarters of the way in,
you come across
three ancient---
Two poplar trees, and they--
They look like redwoods.
They're huge!
And I was coming back
and I stopped at the trees.
There's nobody usually on that
trail other than...
And I was circling
around one tree,
and all of a sudden, there
was a shift, like a shift.
And this is probably all
perfectly natural and normal,
except for the feeling of...
something is not right,
something has shifted.
And then I continued
around the tree,
and everything straightened
itself back out again.
I went to the, um...
And this was later, I just
happened to be on Cherokee,
and I went to one of their
elders, and I...
I didn't tell him
where it happened,
and he told me
where it happened.
So that really floored me.
He said, "It's a portal."
He said, "You walked in
and out of a portal."
And that's what it felt like.
So a lot of people don't know,
but you have an interesting
background in the UK.
-Mm-hmm.
-What was your last job
before you came to the States?
Well, for years in the UK,
I was-- I worked for
the British government,
and the easiest way
to describe it
is I cross-examined
witnesses, um,
on behalf of the government
when evidence was
put before a judge.
So my job was essentially
to test the veracity
in front of a judge of
what they were saying,
and that's been a useful
skill in my research.
So tell me about
what you were told
that you were going to
experience with Matthew Johnson.
Well, Matthew Johnson
made it very clear
that he had Bigfoots
in his location,
he had them frequently,
and that I would have
an overwhelming experience
with Bigfoots if I went.
So you're through
the second day,
nothing's happening,
what's next?
Well, we decided
we'd stay another night,
and that's when it got...
very intense.
I suddenly noticed
a beam of light,
but it was, like, horizontal,
and it didn't look natural.
It doesn't make sense.
Where's it coming from,
you know?
Obviously it wasn't us.
There were no torches,
there were no
other people there.
Where's it from?
And it just unnerved me a bit,
because I couldn't explain it.
And what do you think the
diameter of the beam was?
It was narrow and
thin, like a strip.
-Okay.
-Like that, yeah?
-Was it intense?
-It was bright.
I wouldn't say intense.
It was bright.
It wasn't like glowing
bright, you know?
But it was-- It was
certainly like a beam,
-a strange beam.
-White?
- White.
- And could you see
- the beginning or end of it?
- No.
So you guys
are sitting there,
you're watching it.
What's next?
We carried on watching it.
And then a mist forms.
This red mist emanated from
the beam and grew around it.
And from this mist,
two creatures emerged from it.
They were small, very black.
They had a raggedy
orange glow around them.
And they had small red eyes.
They were astonishing
for me. Astonishing to see.
And at this point, these
things move. Move quickly.
They come towards us.
And this was the worst bit.
And this is what becomes
the worst moment of my life.
Because the things
open their mouths.
And it's like...
In that very moment,
I remember thinking,
"I'm going to die here, and no
one's going to know how I died."
And so I
shined a flashlight...
and they-- Boom!
They disappear.
It's like they were never
there. There's nothing there.
I had you sit down
with Harvey Pratt,
-the forensic artist.
-Mm-hmm.
And you and him worked together
on some drawings, correct?
-Yes.
-So Harvey sent these over.
And is this what one
of the creatures looked like?
Yeah, that's
a very good likeness.
I think they were
interdimensional entities.
These things, I think,
use technology.
When you think about
the beam of light,
you think about
this mist forming,
that all suggests to me, energy.
Energy. These things exist.
And that, in itself,
is astonishing.
And is a wonderful,
yet horrifying, mystery.
The credible side of Adam Davies
is that Adam is a credible
researcher, number one.
Number two, he wasn't
there to see a portal.
He was there to see Bigfoot.
He didn't even know
what he was going to experience
or what he was experiencing
at the time.
I think the people
that are reluctant
to accept the fact
that Bigfoot exists
need to go on their own path
to understand.
A few sound bites from me
or somebody else aren't
going to be enough
to convince anyone.
So Darryl King wasn't
a lifelong researcher.
He just had an opportunity to
go out and have an experience.
And what he saw
shook his world.
I can remember clearly thinking,
"This is a total waste of time.
There's nothing
going to happen here.
And it's just very
cold and miserable."
Boy, was I wrong.
The group leader handed
me a thermal camera.
And he said, "Just
take a look and scope
along the edge of the
waterfront and the tree line."
At first I didn't see anything.
Suddenly, it appeared
on the scope.
This huge creature...
absolutely enormous.
Not a man. Far
bigger than a man.
Like magnitudes
bigger than a man.
This was something that was
akin to a water buffalo
standing on two legs.
Definitely bipedal.
Has like a hunched back
and a more forward leaning
kind of disposition.
Conical head.
Very long arms too.
And then it hid
behind the tree stump
and did a little...
like this little game,
like peeking around
the corner at us.
And what's interesting about
that is it's pitch black.
We could only see what we saw
because we had
the thermal camera.
After losing sight of what I
would say has to be a Bigfoot,
amazingly enough,
10 or 15 seconds later,
an orb appeared in the forest
and actually rose
from the forest floor
up into the canopy
of the trees.
It probably moved
a thousand feet
in maybe eight or ten seconds
through the forest.
Everybody could see that.
It was totally obvious.
Ten people are transfixed
on this orb
that's now moving quickly
through the forest
and then to our right
and then disappeared.
I'd never seen anything
like that in my life.
I can't say for sure
they're connected,
but it's an awful coincidence
if they're not connected.
My name's Todd Smith.
I've been an accidental
Bigfoot researcher,
um, since 2014.
Have there been UFOs,
orb sightings in this area?
Yes, sir, there is.
In particular, what is
most common down here
is these ba*ls of light
of various size
that appear to have,
uh, like, intelligence
and navigate around things.
So we have Bigfoot,
orbs, UFOs, all in one area.
This is something
I've noticed too.
Where I can make a direct--
More direct correlation
to the Bigfoot,
those orbs seem
to be yellowish,
like an incandescent light bulb,
that kind of
yellowish hue to it.
It came out over to the road
where I was stopped.
Three of them
stopped perfectly,
about 5 feet above the road.
And I'll tell you, it felt
like a... a message
in the way that it paused.
Honestly, it was dramatic.
Yeah, it was stressful for me.
We go into fear mode,
but absolutely
this was a message,
and I was going to drive
over or through whatever
was there to leave.
And before I got to them,
they just floated to the woods
and then went out
over the valley.
So then you would say
that there is an association
of the orbs and the Bigfoot?
You're not
supposed to say
that, uh, correlation
doesn't mean causation,
but, you know, when is
there a point where it does?
I mean, isn't that how science
starts, is right there.
And my personal experience,
I'm going to say yes.
Yeah, I'll throw my neck
out there. I'll say yes.
Oh, God.
What was the rationale behind
maybe there was a baby nearby?
Well, we can see
the baby being lifted
and picked up in the footage.
Um, and we can see that now
due to some enhancements
done on the film,
where in the original,
it's very, very
difficult to pick up.
It was shot in 1992,
but it was not
until the year 2000
that Mr. Doug Hajicek
discovered
the baby being lifted.
My dad never knew about that
until Doug brought that
to him in early 2001.
When your dad took that footage,
did he ever mention to you
that he felt intimidated,
threatened, and move
away from that baby?
Well, he did, yes.
It kind of became a little
aggressive in its vocalizations.
Um, and unfortunately,
the camera gets turned off
at that point because
his self-preservation
kind of took over.
I've been
a woodsman all my life,
and I've never been afraid
of anything that's in, uh...
that's in the woods.
But I am just a little bit
afraid of these, uh, Bigfoots.
When you go up there,
you're in their backyard.
It's just like if they
was to come downtown here.
Why, they'd be in
our backyard, you know.
So they know every little trail
and every little place
where you can just get
a glimpse of them,
and they're gone just
in a matter of seconds.
We had a CB radio,
and he would tell my mom
where he was parking.
And then she would be
contacted when he got back.
And he would leave
instructions with her,
basically of, "If
I don't come home,
this is where you should
start looking for me."
What was the draw
on the obsession?
He saw it and
he couldn't let it go.
And he had to see it again
and he had to go back.
But did your dad have
the ability
to hoax something so complex?
No.
I don't think so, um...
Honestly, even up
until, you know,
about a year before he died,
when he gave his last interview
he was challenging people,
actively challenging people
to prove where
the footage was fake.
And I'm doing the same thing.
I actually want this to be
the most scrutinized
footage of all time,
more so than the Patty film,
more so than
the JFK assassination.
I want this thing
scrutinized to the point
where we can't say
that it's fake anymore.
There's a lot of good, solid
evidence in the Bigfoot world.
Unfortunately, you're fighting
ridicule
and doubt consistently, and
that's fueled by the press.
And unfortunately,
it's sometimes hard
to see the sun when there's
so much fog in the area.
Well, why the secrecy
behind Bigfoot?
No reason other than,
you know, in our parks,
there's this secrecy
that surrounds our parks.
To me, is, uh...
It's beyond belief.
Some people know some things
that they don't want
other people to know,
and they control it.
And it is that mentality,
kind of the gatekeeper,
this arrogance
that you can't handle
what's going on,
that you don't have
the capability yet,
and, you know, in your scope
of knowledge, which is bogus.
Part of that unusual nature
of Bigfoot and Sasquatch
is that when you bring
technology around it
to record it, film it,
et cetera, it fails.
Basically what this is,
this is a--
Detects electromagnetic
fields, and it tells you
if the level is
dangerous or, you know,
you shouldn't be near it,
and it's going off.
So the level in this
area is high enough
for it to throw a warning
that, you know,
human beings shouldn't
be around here.
It's EMF.
You need gear that can take
an internal voltage range,
not a dedicated
singular voltage input.
This entire sh**t has had
strange things going on.
When technology tends
to fail in that Bigfoot world,
there's an alignment that
people don't understand.
That's with UFOs as well.
There's many times where
a vehicle is going down a road,
where it encounters a UFO
and the engine stops
or the lights quit.
And that association
between the UFOs
and the Bigfoot world
is something
that isn't brought up often.
I think Bigfoot is much more
intelligent than great apes.
I really do. The other question
researchers like us
have to answer
is how they are able
to evade trail cameras.
Must be hundreds of thousands
of trail cameras
in North America.
Any animals I want to
capture on trail cameras,
I've already got, yeah?
Except one.
Bigfoot. Now, why is that?
If you're capable
of strategic thinking,
you're also capable
of evasive thinking.
Bigfoot is capable of strategic
and complex thinking,
but it's a different
sort of sentience to us.
Do you believe that
they have the ability
to go invisible, to speak
a language, to mimic?
I think the Bigfoots
must have abilities
that we don't understand.
But when people use
the term paranormal,
others can immediately come--
Become suspicious, yeah,
and think of some crappy
ghost in a white sheet.
What we're really talking about
is things we don't understand.
So people will say,
"Well, that's great.
Why didn't you just
put up a trail camera
and photograph that happening?"
Well, the trail
camera is like...
like a... Is
a repellent for them.
I found out early on that
they can recognize technology.
And they actually know
what it's doing,
-and they know how to defeat it.
-What do you think
that they are seeing
in the technology
that allows them to
understand it's there?
I'm positive,
personally,
that they can see the infrared.
And the passive infrared
sensor is always--
It's always scanning, so
they can see that all the time.
And I think they
have a way to--
And I can't explain
how, but they know
when, you know, human
technology is around.
They do have the ability
to disable electronics.
Ron Morehead has
said for years,
if you haven't had electronic
failures while you're out there
gathering your
Sasquatch evidence,
then you haven't been
doing it very long.
I can't even count
the number of cameramen
who said, "I just charged
those batteries.
How could they be dead?"
Uh, but it happens
again and again.
They are opposed
to our attempts
to document these phenomenon.
That is not what
they want done.
They've got to be more
than just an ape in the woods.
They're sentient,
cognitive beings.
And certainly has
a level of intelligence
that goes far beyond
that of an ape.
There's no question in my mind,
because everything points
in that direction
versus pointing in
the direction of an ape.
The longer I've been
in the Bigfoot research world,
I've seen it transition
from just a folklore topic
to something that's
taken seriously
with more technology applied,
more resources given,
and more highly intelligent,
open-minded people
related to the arena that
are applying their skills
to exposing the truth.
I will say that the subject
has come a long way.
There is not as--
The open ridicule anymore.
I mean, when you go
into a gift shop
and there's Bigfoot
tchotchkes all over the place,
everybody's wearing
a Bigfoot t-shirt,
and they're having conferences,
the object is not met
with the same derision
and scorn that it was just
a couple of decades ago.
Bigfoot is real,
definitely real.
I mean, as physical
as you and me.
After all the years I've
spent chasing the evidence,
from DNA samples to
eyewitness accounts,
physical traces to
unexplainable events,
I've had to evolve my thinking.
The ideas that we
were once whispering
are now being
discussed very openly,
and same with the UFO thing.
Just when you thought
the world was done with UFOs,
the government themselves say,
"Oh, yeah, we've
known it all along!"
It's like, "Well, you liars."
But there's no point
in recrimination.
You just have to say,
"Well, thanks."
I no longer believe
we're dealing with
just a relic hominid
hiding in the woods.
The patterns are
too consistent,
the behavior's
too intelligent
and experiences
are too strange.
Get out in the woods.
I mean, you've got to have
boots on the ground,
time in the woods,
at night, overnight,
multiple nights, to begin
to have encounters
that you can then begin to
understand what they're like.
One thing that I would say
to the general public
about the Sasquatch, it's
that they have huge hearts.
They have love in their hearts.
They care about their families.
They care about the people
that come into the forest.
I think the Earth is important,
and I think Bigfoot's
concerned about that.
The whole Earth is-- One button
pushed on the wrong button
is going to destroy us all.
And I think this
has happened before.
And I think the time
is getting closer
for more aliens to show up,
more UFOs to be seen,
more Bigfoots to come out.
I've come to believe
that Bigfoot may be
some kind of human hybrid,
possibly with abilities
that defy our current
understanding of science.
Maybe even paranormal.
I think anybody
that's been doing research
for more than a year or so,
it's going to run
into the paranormal.
And if you look at
the evidence and you follow it,
it's going to take you down
that paranormal route.
And many people
don't want to go there.
It's not
an easy conclusion,
and it's not one
that I came to lightly.
The more I listen
to the researchers,
the witnesses and
the indigenous voices,
the clearer it becomes.
Where I hope the future
of Bigfoot research is going
is that we start to think
outside conventional boxes,
because I think there has
to be a positive way forward.
We have to consider
that this is
an extremely unusual,
intelligent
and evasive creature.
And in order to find
the answers that we need
or want to find, we have
to break out of that mold.
I think giving people
that have had experiences
or eyewitnesses,
things like that,
giving them a sense
that they're not alone
and that they're normal and
they're not crazy or weird,
I think if we can do that
and we can make people
feel better and comfortable,
I think that's a big step.
We have to keep
asking questions.
We have to keep an open mind
if we truly want to
figure out what Bigfoot is.
And whatever that conclusion is,
it may take us to a place
that makes us uneasy
and it may be
tough to understand.
But that road's
going to be fun,
and we could have
an epiphany at the end.
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American Sasquatch: Man, Myth or Monster (2025)
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