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02x07 - Pancho Villa's Plunder

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Beyond Oak Island". Aired: November 17, 2020.*
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"Beyond Oak Island" digs deep into the many treasure quests across the globe, revealing amazing new details and clues from past searches--and in some cases, advancing the hunt.

02x07 - Pancho Villa's Plunder

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-NARRATOR: Tonight..

NARRATOR:
on Beyond Oak Island...

ENRIQUE:
This is it.

This is where he used to hide

weapons, jewelry, silver coins.

GYPSY:
There's something there.

Right there.

MATTY:
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

That is a coin.

CINDY: Villa used
the tunnels to escape.

- There's got to be more of these around, Matty.
- (chuckles)

- Yeah, that's right.
- ENRIQUE: Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

We'd love to help you find some.

MATTY:
Uh-huh.

JACKSON:
Oh, what is that?

What you got?

MATTY:
Oh, wow.

MARTY:
Oh, baby.

All the while
we were growing up,

my brother and I were fascinated
with finding treasure.

RICK:
Pirate treasure,

cursed treasure.

Civil w*r gold.

- (laughter) - Since then,
our work on Oak Island

has shown us
there's a world of mysteries...

- Whoa.
- Waiting to be explored.

RICK: So, we like to reach
out to other treasure hunters.

X marks the spot, right there.
Brilliant.

- MARTY: We want to hear their stories...
- That's right.

- And share our insights.
- "Ill-gotten gains."

- RICK: And who knows...
- GARY: I got it.

Maybe we can help them
with their search.

MARTY:
Not only in America.

Wow. That is gold.

- RICK: But all over the world.
- Yeah.

MARTY:
Beyond Oak Island.

♪ ♪

MATTY:
Hey, guys.

RICK:
Hey, Matty Blake.

MATTY:
You got my message?

Yes. That's why we're here.

All right.

Does it have
something to do with treasure?

It indeed does, my friends.

Uh...

I think this one
could be really fun.

I think you'll like it.

- Oh, very cool. Tell us more.
- I think anytime

you have
a treasure mystery on the table

a bunch of things
you hope for, right?

And one of them would be
colorful personalities involved.

And there's probably
no more exciting history

than when you talk about
revolutionaries, right?

Major upheaval, wars,

people rising up.

The common denominator
in all of these is

- strife, upheaval, violence.
- Yeah.

The shifting tides
of-of human fortunes.

It take-takes more
than that, though.

People only rally to people

that are very charismatic.

Someone they can tie into,
someone they can believe in.

Well, I mean, we talk about
a time line a lot on Oak Island,

and if you look at
a time line of revolutions,

a lot of them, especially when
we're trying to connect it

to Oak Island, for example,
are-are far in the past.

American Revolution,
French Revolution.

Um, but when you talk
about the Mexican Revolution,

that wasn't that long ago.

- Turn of the century, right?
- 20th century.

- Yeah.
- Yeah.

NARRATOR:
In 1910, Mexico was heading

for a highly-contested
presidential election...

just as the nation
was on the brink of revolution.

GROSSMAN: Porfirio Díaz had been
the President of Mexico

for 31 years

and was seen by a large portion
of the Mexican population

as corrupt and oppressive.

SARGENT: A lot of folks were
rising up and opposing

that kind of leadership.

It was a situation where
the people needed a change,

and the change that they needed
required a revolution.

The history is complex, uh,

with various revolutionaries
jockeying for power.

Some more conservative,
some more liberal.

Francisco Madero really leads
the first phase

of the Mexican Revolution.

And of course,
on the military side,

Pascual Orozco and Pancho Villa
developed armies

and were fighting all across
the northern part of Mexico

in support of Madero.

I think if someone had mentioned
the Mexican Revolution,

I think Pancho Villa's name
would be

- the first thing in your mind, right?
- Yeah, absolutely.

The name is
instantly recognizable, right?

NARRATOR: General Francisco
"Pancho" Villa was the commander

od the División del Norte...
Or Division of the North...

In the Mexican state
of Chihuahua.

Although he had
a very humble upbringing,

Villa would not only become
one of the most notable leaders

in the Mexican Revolution
and the governor of Chihuahua,

but, according to researchers,
would also amass a fortune

in plundered valuables.

One of the main sources
where Pancho Villa got

most of his money
for his revolutionary army

was confiscation.

General Villa primarily
made money by confiscating

the properties of the wealthy.

There was one occasion
where Pancho Villa took

about 600,000 pesos in gold bars

from the former governor
of Chihuahua

by the name of Luis Terrazas.

So it was quite a bit.
It was a-a substantial amount.

You have a lot of money,

it's wise to hide it
in different places.

So, in case you're discovered,

they're not going to acquire
everything.

So you have to strategically
distribute your assets

in multiple locations
for safety.

It was all about hiding.

Villa was operating in El Paso,

financially and in terms of

acquiring weapons
and ammunition.

He was involved in
counterfeiting operations,

smuggling operations,

but he managed to put together

quite a lump of cash
and bullion.

NARRATOR:
On July 20, 1923,

Pancho Villa was ambushed
and assassinated

in Parral, Mexico,
by political rivals.

He would leave behind
an incredible legacy

and, according to
many researchers,

a number of buried treasures

between El Paso, Texas
and Chihuahua, Mexico.

One of these verified locations,

known today
as the Villa Stash House,

was raided by U.S. officials
in 1915,

where thousands of dollars
in looted treasure

was recovered
from a hidden safe.

When the Customs and Treasury
went in there

and they got the safe open,

uh, it was packed full,
it was solid.

So that leads people to believe
that they had more stash

somewhere around that building,
that property.

They could've buried it
in the backyard.

They could've stashed it
in tunnels.

We know of some tunnels
that were built in El Paso.

- So where's the treasure?
- MATTY: Well,

my contact's in El Paso, Texas,

and he is, uh, very connected
to its history.

His name is Jackson Polk.

He hosts a radio show
and he's a local historian.

- Mm-hmm.
- He seems to have a line on somewhere.

I-I saw the phrase
"stash house."

Ah, that sounds good,
for openers.

When I saw "Mexican Revolution,
Pancho Villa, stash house,"

I was like, "I think I need
to tell you guys about this."

So I think we should
talk to Jackson.

D-Do you have him standing by?

I do. Yeah?

- Yeah.
- You're pretty good at this Matty.

- I'm getting better.
- Let's talk to this guy.

All right. I think, uh,

Jackson Polk
should be standing by.

Hey, Jackson,
welcome to the w*r room.

It's Matty, and I'm here
with Rick and Marty Lagina.

- MARTY: Hello, Jackson.
- Good to see you gentlemen, how's it going?

You're about to make our day.

Well, I hope so.
We'll see what happens here.

We got some, uh,
hidden treasures around El Paso.

Why this story?

I love El Paso and its history.

I sort of knew about
the Stash House, but not until

we had a story
all about Pancho Villa

on the radio a couple times
and explained it.

NARRATOR: Born and
raised in El Paso, Texas,

Jackson Polk's fascination
with history

led him to a career
as a documentary filmmaker,

broadcast journalist
and radio host.

JACKSON: I started studying
and I joined the historical society.

As I heard more and more,

I realized
that the Mexican Revolution

was planned in El Paso.

I started figuring out
Pancho Villa

was a man to be reckoned with.

Pancho Villa turned into a guy
who had to manage his fortune,

so he started
stashing it places.

He stashed it
several places in Mexico.

We know he stashed it
in El Paso.

He had a house here
called the Stash House.

And at one point, the U.S.
Customs raided it, in 1915.

MATTY:
So, this stash house,

it was already raided before.

Um, are there any indications

that there is still
treasure there?

JACKSON:
Well, there may be.

Cindy Medina has become the
publicist for the Stash House.

And she introduced me to a guy
named Enrique Guajardo.

He owns the property,
and he's, uh, fixing it up.

And he's pulled up a wood floor

and found two empty areas
in the floor

where there could have
been weapons,

could have been gold,
could have been a lot of things.

But there were definitely
stash locations

under the wooden floor.

He's already found some
artifacts on the property.

Lot of old bottles,
lot of old paperwork.

So, stuff that puts

the location there active

in, uh, the 1910-1915
time frame.

He's agreeable to having
you guys come take a look at it.

He never used metal detecting,

and if you bring
your electronics,

I think you have a good chance
at finding something.

MARTY:
Uh, I think that'd be great.

We think we can bring
a-a very professional,

very skilled metal detector
person as well as the equipment,

and maybe help out with the, uh,
ground-penetrating radar, too.

RICK:
Absolutely.

JACKSON:
That's exactly what we need,

because I think what's hidden
is well hidden.

(chuckles)
Okay, good.

- MATTY: All right, thank you, Jackson, great stuff.
- We're in.

And, uh, we will figure out
w-who's going

and-and we'll coordinate
with you.

- Thank you.
- MARTY: All right.

Thank you, sir.
Pleasure meeting you.

It's fascinating.
Absolutely fascinating.

Who's coming?
Can both of you come this time?

You know, count me in
on this one, Matty.

Count me in. I've got some
business interests, actually,

in New Mexico, so I might be
able to dovetail that.

- MATTY: Oh.
- So let's go to El Paso.

- Sí.
- (laughter)

- Sí.
- Big brother?

- What about you, Rick?
- RICK: Uh...

I would love to go,
but I... you know, you know...

- One of us should probably be here, so...
- One of us should stay.

I have no problem
with both of you going.

And I look forward
to the reports.

Let's do it.

Amigo, vámanos.

- (laughter)
- MATTY: Vámanos.

The interesting

- Thank-thanks for coming.
- (chuckles): Uh, yeah, hey.

- We're all excited about it. Eh, Matty?
- Yeah.

Well, we need some help here
looking for things,

and you guys
are pretty good at that.

So I got to thinking, well,
if you can make it to El Paso,

we have some very interesting
things you can go look for.

Hey, we're headed for a place
called the Stash House.

- MATTY: I love it. I love it.
- That's got to be a good place to look, right?

NARRATOR: Three days after
their meeting in the w*r room,

Marty Lagina and Matty Blake
travel to El Paso, Texas

to meet with treasure hunter
and historian Jackson Polk.

JACKSON: It's a great
city, it's got so much history,

it's kind of hard to begin
where to tell it.

NARRATOR: Together, they'll be
conducting a comprehensive search

of a property that once belonged

to the notorious Mexican
revolutionary Pancho Villa,

who is known to have hidden
stolen valuables here

in the early 20th century.

MATTY: So, the stash house
we're going to right now,

in 1915, you know,
$500,000 was found

by U.S. government officials.

- And $30,000 in jewelry.
- (scoffs)

And w-what's interesting
about it is,

they did find some things
in the floors,

they found the stuff
in the safe.

But frankly, knowing how I think
Villa would-would operate,

it looks to me like there could
easily be more things in there.

Yeah, the safe
is too obvious, isn't it?

Yeah, and you know,
if he's got a stash house,

you think he's gonna
put it all in one safe

where everyone knows it is?
It doesn't make sense, right?

No, it's almost like the dummy
treasure idea on Oak Island.

- You know? Yeah.
- Yes. - Ah, yes.

He would've put a lot of things
in the backyard, I think.

Villa maybe used tunnels
as well.

They weren't tunnels
for passage,

so much as they were tunnels
for hiding things.

- Okay.
- And there's a very good chance

he did that at the Stash House.

And that it would not be,
uh, easily detectable,

because they had no technology
back in the day.

Yous guys are used to doing
things with technology.

That's what's gonna be
so interesting here.

Here we are.

JACKSON:
Welcome to the Stash House.

MARTY: Clearly
we're at the right place.

- All right.
- MATTY: This is great.

- MARTY: Very cool.
- Hey!

- How are you guys? Welcome.
- How are you?

- This is Enrique? Matty Blake.
- Nice meeting you.

NARRATOR: The former
hideout, or stash house,

of Mexican revolutionary
Pancho Villa

is now a historical landmark.

Well, welcome
to the Stash House.

NARRATOR: and was
purchased by Enrique Guajardo

in 2015.

To help in today's search
of the property,

Enrique has also invited
the U.S. representative

of the Pancho Villa Foundation,
Cindy Medina, to join the team.

- MARTY: Very cool.
- It's incredible.

NARRATOR: It was Cindy who
introduced Enrique to Jackson

in the hopes that he could help
organize an effort

to verify if any of
Villa's plundered fortune

remains hidden
on the grounds today.

It's a very unique piece
of property,

and it carries a lot of history.

My plans for the Stash House is
to convert it into a restaurant,

bar, museum or galleria.

But we stopped the renovation
because we started finding

so many artifacts, so many items
that belonged to Pancho Villa.

So, we wanted to have
a professional help

here at the site.

It's now or it's never.

Let's have a look, if it's okay.

- Let's go. Come on in.
- Marty, we are about to walk through

- Pancho Villa's front door.
- We-we are stepping in

- his footsteps.
- I love it.

NARRATOR:
Between 1910 and 1920,

during the height
of the Mexican Revolution...

- Into Pancho Villa's lair.
- This adobe structure,

which sits only 1,000 feet
from the U.S.-Mexico border...

- This is awesome.
- Was an ideal hiding place

to stash weapons and treasure
that could help Pancho Villa

wage w*r against
the government of Mexico.

Built in 1899, both the house

and the 4,200 square feet
of grounds surrounding it

have never been searched
using modern scanning

and metal detecting technology.

However, when Enrique began
to remodel the property

earlier this year,

he quickly made
some surprising discoveries.

This is it.

This is where he used to hide
weapons, jewelry, cash.

Oh, wow. I mean, this is the
first thing that my eye catches.

You found this?

ENRIQUE:
Yes, actually, um,

when we start renovating
the house, we lift the floors.

And when we were
lifting the floors,

- we found some holes in there.
- Oh, my gosh.

So, this was under the floor?

ENRIQUE:
This was under the floor, yes.

MATTY: This is the
original flooring here?

ENRIQUE:
That's original flooring.

Briefcase was here as well.

MATTY: That was the
actual briefcase in there?

ENRIQUE:
Yes, sir.

I mean, that must have been
an incredible moment,

opening that briefcase.

- JACKSON: What was in it?
- Uh, it was empty.

There was something there
at one time.

Uh, there's just no doubt.

There is just no doubt,
you just don't do that.

Is it the Lone Ranger?
I don't think so.

There's got to be more
of these around, then.

- (laughter)
- Yeah, that's right.

ENRIQUE:
Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

We'd love to help you find some.

Do you guys believe
that we will find

something of value here
on this property?

- Most definitely. Most definitely.
- ENRIQUE: Yes.

ENRIQUE:
Uh, people used to bury

their treasures
on their backyards.

And, uh, he had
some horse stables right

- in the back in the patio.
- Oh, let's look at that.

- Yeah, let me keep showing you.
- Yeah. - Yeah.

ENRIQUE: Right here
used to be the horse stables.

- MARTY: Mm-hmm.
- He used to keep all his horses.

R-Remember, he used to travel
with his military.

- Of course.
- So, there was more than 20 horses here.

Has this ever
been metal-detected?

- No, sir.
- Oh, really?

- JACKSON: Oh, you're gonna love this.
- MATTY: That's good.

You haven't even really done a-a
treasure hunt or proper search,

but in your, just, work here,
you've found stuff.

- Yes, I have.
- JACKSON That's why these guys are here.

We found boxes,
boxes and boxes of stuff.

- Let's have a look, please. Please.
- I'll show you.

ENRIQUE:
This is the soldiers' house,

- right here.
- Okay.

So we got b*ll*ts and dynamite.

- Whoa.
- JACKSON: Whoa. Let's...

- let's play with that.
- (Enrique chuckles)

MATTY: I mean,
historically, is this something

that Pancho Villa
would have used?

Oh, look at that, yeah,
the old stick of dynamite.

- ENRIQUE: Oh, yeah.
- Pancho Villa would use dynamite.

He loaded up a train one time,
lit it up and sent the train

down the tracks,

took care of what was, uh,
what was down-track.

And this is probably
the most interesting.

- (gasps)
- MARTY: Oh, yeah.

- ENRIQUE: Silver coins.
- MATTY: Oh, wow.

- MARTY: Oh, baby.
- JACKSON: Oh.

- CINDY: I like the sound of that.
- ENRIQUE: And bills.

- Yeah, that does sound nice.
- Doesn't it?

Some bills from the 1900s.

MATTY:
My goodness.

Hold that. That's awesome.

And where was that found?

ENRIQUE: That was inside
here, the soldiers' house.

- MATTY: Look at that.
- MARTY: This is issued

- by the state of Chihuahua.
- MATTY: Really?

MARTY: Yeah, "El Estado
de Chihuahua," right there.

MATTY:
So is this one.

- That's where he was from.
- So could this be

- the so-called Pancho Villa money?
- That is right.

- It is?
- That is right.

He was the governor of Chihuahua
and we have Chihuahua bills.

- Exactly.
- That's-that's... At his stash house.

- JACKSON: At his stash house, yeah.
- Right.

I don't think there's any doubt
that Pancho Villa was here.

- (laughter)
- No. I mean...

- Look...
- I am fully convinced, okay?

MATTY:
Yeah.

If he has found
this much material

in just working here...
And no digging, no technology...

He's just eyeing these things...

I mean, what else can
we find here today?

So, uh, the GPR team
is almost here.

Gypsy will be here, uh,
any minute, so let's get going.

- Let's find you more.
- Let's get it.

- All right.
- Good stuff.

- ENRIQUE: Equipment's here.
- Holy moly.

MATTY (laughs):
That's GPR.

NARRATOR: Rick and
Marty Lagina have arranged

for ground-penetrating radar
specialists John Gallegos

and David Acosta
to join the team

and help search
for any underground voids

or possible treasure caches.

They have also invited
treasure-hunting colleague

- and metal-detection expert Gypsy Jewels...
- Oh, look who's here.

To help look for artifacts

and evidence of Pancho Villa's
activities on the property.

- ENRIQUE: Welcome. - GYPSY: How are y'all?
- MARTY: This is Gypsy.

She's our metal detectorist.

These gentlemen are using
a different technology.

- GYPSY: Sure.
- MARTY: How does this work?

JOHN G.:
Sure, so this is

a, uh, 3D GPR antenna
that allows us

to be able to see
into the ground.

NARRATOR:
The IDS Opera Duo

is a ground-penetrating
radar device

that utilizes 300
and 700-megahertz antennas.

It operates by sending
electromagnetic signals

down into the earth

that, when reflected
back up to the surface,

create an image
that may indicate

the presence of solid objects
or potential voids.

And Gypsy, you're bringing in...

I brought two metal detectors.

Yeah 'cause that one's new.
I haven't seen that

- in your arsenal yet.
- GYPSY: You haven't seen this baby yet.

- (Gypsy laughs)
- I love it. Good.

NARRATOR: To assist in the
search of the surrounding property,

Gypsy has brought along
the GTI 2500 metal detector.

This device
is extremely effective

in finding both nonferrous
and ferrous targets,

like silver and gold,

up to four feet
below the ground.

In addition, it can identify
not only a target's depth

but its size.

MARTY: You know,
Enrique, we're throwing

everything we got at this.

- Yeah, man, look at this.
- I'm looking at this

and it's just amazing.

MARTY:
Well, let's do this.

I'd like to grab these guys.

Let's run that inside
the building first.

You can do your thing out here.

We've got the right tools,
so we're ready to go.

MARTY: All right, let's go
do this. Let's get started.

- Let's find some treasure.
- All right.

MATTY:
Let's find some treasure.

MARTY: -Whoa.
- Whoa, whoa.

Before we get started,
let's-let's just

have a little powwow here.

Here's the plan, I think.

You're gonna fire that thing up.

Let's do this half
of the building first.

That's kind of divided nicely
along this wall.

NARRATOR: In a historic El Paso,
Texas, adobe structure

once used as a stash house

by the famous Mexican
revolutionary Pancho Villa,

Marty Lagina,
property owner Enrique Guajardo

and historian Jackson Polk
have teamed up

with GPR specialists
John Gallegos and David Acosta.

They are about to begin a search
for any evidence of voids

that might have been used
by Villa

more than 100 years ago

as potential hiding places
for treasure.

So, right here we have a known,
and by that, I mean

we have some sort of
hidden hole... catch,

whatever you want to call it...
Under the floor,

that Enrique already found,
so we're hoping that maybe

there are more of these and
maybe the ones we find elsewhere

- won't be vacant.
- Yeah.

So, you can get that
in your machine, and then,

if we come into something
similar, you'll have it.

- Does that make sense?
- Yeah. No, absolutely.

Well, let's do that.
I'll turn you lose, then.

After that, just do this
whole side of the building.

- Let's see what's here.
- All right, let's...

- Let's take a look.
- Great.

So, this is the type
of signature

that we're going
to be looking at.

- Right here.
- Mm-hmm.

JOHN G.: What we're
looking at is anytime the wave

kind of bounces off of the air,
it creates this signature.

So, look, in terms of the data,
if it looks normal,

it looks kind of like they're
stacked on each other,

which is the normal geophysical
layers of the features

- that you would find on that.
- Mm-hmm.

So, we know it's between,
uh, roughly about

four and a half to about
eight and a half...

Something around four feet,
five feet-ish.

- MARTY: Yeah, it damn sure is.
- Yeah.

Okay, go find another one.

To my knowledge, uh, nothing

of any sort
of scientific methodology

has been used
on this house at all.

And that includes
ground-penetrating radar

and even metal detecting.

All right, let's-let's take a
pass right parallel going back.

Sure.

The easy stuff's
already been found.

The stuff that Enrique and
his team found by cleaning up,

that's already in their pocket.

Now we're gonna bring
the technology

that might be able to sense
where the hidden stuff is.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

- What happened?
- What do you got?

DAVID A.: Whoa, it's definitely
getting something there.

Oh, my God.

JACKSON:
That looks different.

- MARTY: That looks real different.
- DAVID A.: Now, this is,

this is a little bit wider.

That's something there,
for sure.

It looks like it's maybe
about four feet wide or so.

Here's-here's one end of it.

Even the data is showing,
more or less,

that it's about four feet wide,
this way.

It's not right up against
the wall, then,

- like the other one, either, right?
- No, no.

This one isn't.

Our preliminary analysis
of the anomaly

is that it is
a little bit bigger aerially

than the two that have
already been found,

and also, it might be deeper.

All right,
so, us being human beings,

we jump to the conclusion
that this is the mother lode.

So, this could be the one that
he left behind undisturbed.

We're pretty excited about it.

NARRATOR:
As Marty and the GPR team

begin to mark out the perimeter
of a potential target site

inside the Pancho Villa
Stash House,

Matty Blake, along with metal
detection expert Gypsy Jewels

scan the property outside
the building in a search

for any valuable artifacts
that may have once belonged

to the legendary
Mexican revolutionary.

(beeping)

GYPSY: Hey, y'all,
here's a signal right here.

(long beep)

- Right about there.
- MATTY: Right there?

- Ooh, hard. Oh, man, yeah.
- (laughs)

I mean, it's almost like
digging through stone.

- Working up a sweat, Matty?
- Already.

- How's that?
- GYPSY: Now you're getting it down there.

(beeping)

We got it.

- You ready for this?
- Let's go.

This is what we came here for,
Cindy. I love this moment.

Ooh!

MATTY:
Oh! Whoa, whoa, whoa.

That is a coin.
It is caked in mud.

Hold on. Hold on.

Do we have any water... oh,
I don't want to put water on it.

Here.

This is old, Gypsy.

GYPSY:
Actually, I think it is a coin.

A piece of rock
has formed on it.

- Mm-hmm.
- If we try to clean this any more,

- we're gonna damage it.
- Mm-hmm.

- Right.
- So, let's pocket that,

and then we'll, uh,
we'll get it,

we'll get it looked at
with something.

MARTY:
Hey, Matty! Gypsy.

- Come on in. We need you.
- GYPSY: Oh, okay.

MATTY:
I like when he sounds excited.

- Here, ladies first.
- CINDY: Thank you.

MARTY: Look at this.
Look what we got here.

- Look at that.
- GYPSY: Oh.

MARTY:
Hard data, too. Hard data.

These guys are pretty sure
that there is a void,

and we're hoping you might
shed some light on it

before we cut it.

- This is exciting, y'all.
- It's fantastic.

Crank that thing up.
Let's see what that thing says.

GYPSY: I'm going to
walk down the center here.

(device whirring)

- MATTY: Whoa. Oh.
- (laughter)

Wow, wow.

- (whirring) - It starts
again right on the box.

It's right on it.

GYPSY:
That is an awesome confirmation

right there.

- I've got chills.
- (laughter)

MATTY:
Something's under there.

- GYPSY: This is exciting.
- DAVID A.: It's pretty cool.

-(de JOHN G.:

- Right.
- NARRATOR: In El Paso, Texas,

Marty Lagina and Matty Blake,

along with treasure hunters
Jackson Polk

and Enrique Guajardo

and metal detection expert
Gypsy Jewels

have just discovered
evidence of a void

and metal objects beneath
the floor of the stash house

once used by the famed Mexican
revolutionary Pancho Villa.

GYPSY: There is definitely a
fairly large object right there.

- That's right on the box.
- MARTY: Mm-hmm.

But Gypsy,
you're sure it's metal?

This machine would not go off

unless there was
some metal in there, so...

Oh, my Go...
And that's a big bunch of metal.

There's something
big right there.

- MARTY: Well, we're gonna find out soon.
- ENRIQUE: How about this,

- let's get it out.
- Yeah. - (laughter)

MARTY: How about
we quit guessing?

ENRIQUE: Yeah. Let's go,
let's go for it.

MARTY: Let's go get
the cutter. Let's go.

- We'll be back.
- All right.

MARTY: We'll get the
heck out of your way.

- We're this close.
- Good job. The new toy paid off.

We've done the house,
let's go do the yard.

MATTY: We've got to get the same
technology we used in the house

outside the house
to this back lot.

We're got to run a grid pattern
GPR survey,

look at the data,
and see if there's any targets.

- Here you go.
- All right.

MATTY:
I.e., voids, spaces,

perfectly square objects,
things like that.

We can identify the targets
and then hopefully dig.

Well, it looks like we do have
something here, gentlemen.

And look at this scan
right here.

We got a anomaly right there.

This is a dark indication

- that there is obviously something there.
- MARTY: Oh, yeah.

- What do you think?
- It's an anomalous, anyway.

Yeah. I would recommend
the digging commence right here.

"X" marks the spot.

- Is this the only anomaly?
- Well, I think, uh,

it wouldn't hurt to take another
pass in this direction.

Please.

Well, hey, it looks like we, uh,

got another point of interest
here, guys.

- Really?
- Kind of the same signature as we're seeing over there.

MARTY:
Oh, yes.

Mark it, please. Yeah, I mean,
it's kind of looking like

there might have been
a series of tunnels here,

maybe partially filled in.

CINDY:
Villa used tunnels,

you know, to store weapons,
ammunition, money, escape.

- Mm.
- You know, the one at La Quinta Luz in Chihuahua City

was big enough to even
ride horses underneath.

- Okay. Well, that's...
- Huh. - CINDY: Yeah.

He could've done that here.

Is this a tunnel
running along the outside

the back of the house?

The other thing I see
is that the first target

seems to line up with the hole
dug in the Stash House.

So is that a tunnel?
Do we have a tunnel system now?

It's definitely possible.

NARRATOR:
During the Mexican Revolution,

Pancho Villa's use
of elaborate tunnel systems

is well-documented.

For his estate in Chihuahua,
purchased in 1911,

and which is now
the Historical Museum

of the Mexican Revolution,

Villa commissioned
elaborate tunnels

to be built under the property.

Constructed from brick,
cement and sandy clay,

he used the tunnels to secretly
hide and move soldiers,

weapons, provisions
and even horses,

along with the riches
he accumulated

during the course of his
numerous heists and robberies.

Is it possible that the team
has now found evidence

of tunnels on this property,
where Pancho Villa was known

to have hidden valuables
more than a century ago?

I would find it hard to believe
that a place he spent

this much time at he wouldn't
have some sort of escape plan.

- Right? Yeah. - He had to.
- Okay, well, let's find it out.

MATTY:
All right, let's go.

(beeping)

JACKSON:
Oh, my God, what does he have?

Well, that's a serious machine.

MATTY:
It's not really a treasure hunt

until Marty Lagina
is in an excavator.

- Yes, yes, yes, yes.
- (cheering)

Now forward, yep.

Cool as a cucumber!

- (laughter)
- Oh, yeah, baby.

- ENRIQUE: Perfect.
- (cheering, applause)

- Hey, hey.
- That wasn't easy.

JACKSON:
Success.

JACKSON:
Scoop number one coming up.

- Oh, yeah.
- MATTY: Hey,

we've broken ground
at Pancho Villa's Stash House.

- (cheering, applause)
- Viva Villa! Viva Villa.

- Wait, there's a brick.
- You see, there's...

GYPSY:
That's a brick.

- Different-colored dirt.
- I think there's something there.

Right there.

You think that's a coin?

Oh, my God,
it does look like a coin.

JOHN G.:
Where?

- MATTY: You see a coin?
- It is. - GYPSY: It's a coin.

- Really?
- MATTY: Right there.

- Wow.
- And it's got a green patina.

Wait, you just found that?

You two just found that
with your eyes?

Well, we both kind of saw it
at the same time.

- JACKSON: it came out from a pretty far depth.
- Oh, it is smaller, yes.

MARTY:
What is that? What is it, Gypsy?

- ENRIQUE: Wow.
- MATTY: Is that an eagle?

Oh, it is a foreign coin,
I think.

- MATTY: See the ridging around the end?
- Yes.

It's got a lot of patina, Marty.
It's green.

More than likely copper.

- MATTY: I know what this is.
- JACKSON: What?

MATTY:
That would be a Mexican penny,

- my friends. - Ah.
- Mm-hmm.

- And there's...
- "Centavo."

It's got the "C" for "centavo."

- JACKSON: Okay.
- The wreath.

GYPSY:
Can you see a date?

CINDY: It's hard to
tell what's back here.

GYPSY:
May I check?

It is...

Can you read a word?

- 1905.
- (whooping, cheering)

We're on the trail
of Pancho Villa!

That puts it right
in the time frame we want it.

CINDY: Finding a 1905
coin is sig-significant to us,

especially here
at the Villa Stash House,

'cause when the raid happened,
that was 1915.

Even though the coin
is from 1905,

that was in circulation,
so that could have been dropped

by one of the Mexican
revolutionaries

visiting the house at the time.

Quite frankly,
that could have fallen

out of Pancho Villa's pocket.

- That can't be the Lone Ranger.
- (laughter)

It can't be the Lone Ranger.

I think, Gypsy,
you should metal-detect that

and then I'm gonna keep digging.

- All right. - Perfect, sounds like a plan.
- MARTY: Get it.

(beeping)

JACKSON:
There's bricks.

There is a ton of bricks
coming up.

All right, now,
watch that ground.

This is gonna fill in fast.

I'm not seeing
anything but earth.

JACKSON:
That's just dirt.

MARTY:
Yeah, I think this is backfill.

- It's soft. I think... and-and that's why...
- MATTY: Yeah.

- There's so much junk in it.
- Junk, yeah.

MARTY: As I start digging with
the excavator on the anomaly,

it's clear I'm in
disturbed soil.

Initially, I'm a little
disappointed, frankly,

because it looks like
more modern things than period

for Pancho Villa.

But I'm gonna keep digging.

I'm gonna dig as long
as I'm here

because this stuff
could've been filled

over what we see.

GYPSY:
I got something.

You got something?
Hold on, she's got something.

Look.

- Right there.
- What is that?

It's got a nice
green patina to it.

MATTY:
Oh, my God, it's bright green.

JACKSON:
What is it?

I don't know.

MARTY:
We need to dig this out.

- You guys ready?
- Yep.

JOHN G.:
I'm just gonna probe it.

- Whoa.
- Look at that.

- JACKSON: Oh, what is that?
- MARTY: What you got?

At is that? - GYPSY: Right there.
- MATTY: Wh

GYPSY: It's got a
nice green patina to it.

MATTY:
Oh, my God, it's bright green.

NARRATOR: In El Paso, Texas,
on the grounds of a hideout

once used by the Mexican
revolutionary Pancho Villa,

Marty Lagina, Matty Blake

and metal detection expert
Gypsy Jewels...

- Is that a design?
- I think it might be.

NARRATOR: have just
made an intriguing find.

- GYPSY: It's a button.
- MATTY: Oh, it is.

And it is looking like
a military button of that era.

MATTY: I completely
agree, 'cause that is...

- GYPSY: That is a shank.
- That is a shank.

This is great. Great find.

- All right.
- Awesome.

MATTY:
This is a military-type button

with what we believe to be, at
this point, an American design.

And it appears to be
from the time frame

that Pancho Villa was back here.

Now, we know for a fact,

Pancho Villa was wheeling and
dealing with American officials.

So did we just find evidence

of Pancho Villa cutting a deal
with an American official

in his own backyard
of his own stash house?

- Marty, hell of a job digging.
- Yeah, well,

- you know, I made some hole, that's for sure.
- You did.

MARTY: But we need to go in
and check on these other guys

- and see how they're doing.
- MATTY: Okay.

- So, let's do that.
- MATTY: Great.

All right, let's see
what these guys are... Oh.

I like it.

- Whoa. That was fast.
- It's cut up.

JACKSON:
We got her all cut.

All right, well, are we gonna
try and knock it out with that?

What do you think, Marty, you
want to give it the first shot?

I'll give it a try. All right.

If I look bad,
then I'll hand it to you.

(laughs)

MARTY:
Come on, baby.

We need to break this floor
out of here.

We need to get the floor removed

so we can get down
to this anomaly

that might be
the treasure trove.

JACKSON:
Oh, yeah.

I look around,

there's no way to get that...
Even a mini-excavator in here.

Which means this is gonna be
sledgehammer work.

- There we go.
- JACKSON: Number one.

(beeping)

GYPSY: You know, I am
getting a low signal here.

- There's something definitely really small.
- MATTY: Okay.

GYPSY: So, Matty,
about right-right there.

MATTY: God, it's tiny,
whatever it is, 'cause...

All right, Matty, here we go.

I'll hold this.

GYPSY:
I see it.

You know, look at this.

So that right there

looks like a tiny piece
of an old b*llet casing.

- It sure does. It's...
- So, it would have been

- when they fired a b*llet...
- CINDY: Mm-hmm.

Some of the little pieces
of the b*llet casing...

- CINDY: Explode.
- Explode.

GYPSY: Now you see that
little bit of green patina on there.

- MATTY: Yeah.
- It's got a little age to it.

- MATTY: Yeah.
- Who knows?

- Pancho Villa might have...
- (imitates g*nshots)

shot that very b*llet.

Some celebratory, uh,
firing in the air?

- (laughs)
- Yeah, that's awesome.

MATTY: Gypsy pulls
up this little piece

of what she thinks
and what I agree is

a piece of a b*llet fragment.

Corroborating the fact
that soldiers lived

right next to where we were.

So did someone fire
that g*n in the air?

I don't know,
but it's that type of thing

that brings history alive for me
when I hold an object like that.

I just start telling
those stories in my head

and it validates it in a way.

(indistinct chatter)

MARTY:
Have a probe, John.

- JOHN G.: You guys ready?
- DAVID A.: Yep.

DAVID A.:
All right, let's probe it.

- Whoa.
- Look at that.

DAVID A.:
He went way down in there.

JOHN G.:
Let's see, we got about...

it's about 40...
It looks about three feet?

It's-it's not consolidated
or compacted.

It's as if somebody
put some fill on there

and just covered it up.

I'll tell you what's clear,
we're not done here.

We need to dig this out,
because if it is backfill,

there could be
a crate down there, right?

I mean, that-that's what you do,
you dig a hole.

You tell your men, dig a hole,
put the crate in it,

bury it back.

ENRIQUE:
See?

- It's getting easier.
- ALL: Whoa!

- How about that?
- Look at this.

Cool.

MATTY:
So, where do we stand right now?

We broke through that.

John, um, probed it,
he feels like it's fill.

- Well, that's interesting.
- JOHN G.: Yeah, it's super, super soft.

We got the probe in
about 36 inches.

MATTY: I mean, it doesn't
seem really natural to me.

- Does it to you?
- It doesn't.

- JACKSON: Oh, what is that?
- MARTY: What you got?

I can tell that
"I got something" look, Matty.

- What is it? Let's see.
- That looks old, doesn't it?

It's a big spike, eh?

Look at the head.

JACKSON:
Is that a screwdriver?

No, it's not a screwdriver,
that's a spike.

- What the hell's that doing here?
- And it looks like it's made

by a blacksmith.

Yeah, so this looks
like it could've

belonged in a big timber
at some point.

That's encouraging, Matty,
you know?

I mean, h-here's where
I'm at with this.

I'm not usually given
to speculation,

but I'm gonna do it.

You dig a hole, maybe
there's a chest down there.

If you're just digging a hole,
then you backfill it.

And w-we're just not there yet.

I-I think, if I were you...
This would be my advice...

I wouldn't quit until this
is a four-foot hole

all the way around.

Four-foot deep, I mean.

ENRIQUE:
Okay, we got to do it, then.

MARTY: It's one thing to know
from books that Pancho Villa

was here, but it's another
to prove it yourself, right?

- And I think we did.
- I agree. Totally. 100%.

We didn't find exactly
what we were looking for,

uh, but I'd say, for today,

- we're done.
- MATTY: Okay.

MATTY: We didn't find
Pancho Villa's treasure.

We didn't find gold bars
or silver bars or gold coins.

But that's okay, honestly,
'cause as Marty always says,

you have to eliminate targets.

I think Enrique needs to keep
going and I know he will.

MARTY: You know, Matty
and I are gonna have to go

on to the next adventure
for now,

but you will keep us
appraised, right?

- I mean, you're not done.
- ENRIQUE: Of course.

Oh, no, we're not done.

Oh, no, we're gonna
keep digging for sure.

- Okay.
- Yeah.

What you have found
with just your naked eye,

there is no doubt
you're gonna find more.

Okay, well, I will say,
thank you, young lady.

- It was a pleasure.
- My pleasure meeting you.

I'm sure our paths will cross.

- Thank you, señor.
- Jackson.

- Yes, Cindy.
- Great meeting you.

MARTY:
Good job, everybody.

- Good stuff.
- (applause)

MARTY: Enr

that he had preserved,
which were very intriguing,

and we brought in a
ground-penetrating radar crew

and we covered every, every bit
of that site with that.

We covered the inside the place
and outside the place.

- Oh, you did, yeah?
- But we never really got the backyard excavated

as much as we wanted to.

We-we ran out of time.

Enrique is a great guy.

- MATTY: Such a great guy.
- The energy of that guy.

MATTY:
He's unbelievable.

He went from, you know, always
welcoming, "Yeah, go ahead,"

and then he was like, "Let's go.

Let's keep digging,
let's keep digging."

You've been in contact
with him, right?

MATTY: Yes, he's telling me
that he's got an update for us,

so I'm actually really excited.

- D-Do you have him standing by?
- I do.

MARTY:
Hello, Enrique. How are you?

Hey, how are you guys?

- Good.
- MATTY: It's great to see you again, my friend.

We had a blast.
We were just filling Rick in

on the whole trip.

I've heard nothing
but good things

about you and your efforts
down there.

Yes, yes, definitely it was,
it was a great experience

for-for us as well.

I mean, it was incredible.

MARTY:
We're wondering,

have you kept digging
since we left?

- Have you found anything?
- Yeah.

We dig, like,

about two days more.

We have a c... you know,
a couple items.

I have them here with me,
I don't know if you guys...

- MARTY: Yeah, let's see.
- Yeah, definitely.

We got a couple of bottles.

MATTY:
Oh, that's beautiful.

Can we see the bottom
of that bottle, please?

Yeah, it has a huge hole.

- Wow.
- MATTY: Wow.

That can easily be dated.

You should, you should
have that done.

Yeah, I have, like,
a hundred, a hundred bottles.

Here's another bottle.

I think this is a very cool one.

Oh, that's beautiful.

- Oh, my goodness.
- RICK: What the heck is that?

MATTY:
It's ornate.

- That could have been for one of his wives.
- Yep.

And then this is a plate
where they used to eat.

- MARTY: Oh, yeah.
- MATTY: Wow, that's incredible.

- That's cool.
- That could be, you know...

You said the soldiers
were back there, you know,

you could see them having their
rations on something like that.

How deep were those finds?

These were between
four and five feet.

Yeah, I-I'd say keep digging.

- Think of Rome, right?
- MARTY: Yeah.

Current streets of Rome
are probably 20 feet above...

- They are.
- Areas of significant interest

where-where Rome
"originally was."

I would keep digging
until you've found nothing.

That's what I would do.

My brother wants to bring in
a bigger excavator, Enrique.

- You okay with that?
- (chuckles): Oh, no, no.

Oh, yeah, you know,
we need to find the gold.

We need to find that treasure,
you know?

That's what, that's what
we're here for.

I just have the-the biggest
feeling in my, in my heart,

there's something in there.

There's no way

that Pancho Villa
could have left

that property without even
hiding something, you know?

So I have a huge, strong feeling

that there's something
in there, for sure.

- I love that.
- Yeah, me, too.

- Well...
- MARTY: It was, it was a great adventure.

Enrique, you were a great host.

We're eager to come back,
so why don't you keep us posted?

We'll kick around
when we might be able

to do some more with you.

- Thank you, my friend.
- RICK: Thank you.

- Thanks.
- MARTY: We'll stay in touch.

He's a great guy.

The whole thing
was w-wonderful, um...

I mean, Marty, what's your gut?

I mean, we literally got dirty
in that backyard.

- Is there more to do?
- Here's the thing about that.

It's not that big a spot. I-I...
I mean, I think he's right,

I-I think,
just-just what Rick said.

Dig the whole back...
The backyard, Rick.

I mean, you could...
He could do it with a shovel.

- Yeah. Yeah.
- (laughs)

- That small?
- MARTY: It's not that big.

That yard couldn't
have been 30 by...

- 50, maybe?
- Yeah.

- So it's doable.
- MARTY: Yes.

You would love El Paso.

I mean, you love the whole
conquistador thing.

Well, I-I'm a little bit jealous
right now.

It's hot weather
and you got dirty.

(laughs)

Having said that, Rick,
let's us not give up

on our own treasure hunt.

RICK:
I agree.

Awesome.

Marty, we made
new amigos and amigas

down south on the border.

MARTY:
On the border, at the pass.

I'll meet you
at the pass, Matty.

MATTY (laughs):
Yes, sir.