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she's starting some water no what do you pay for this oh no four
bucks a six-pack sixty-seven cents right ounces of water all the way to France
they see you come comes from the Italian Alps that makes a difference but uh
what's with the Son of Sam David Berkowitz shot six people those are the ones he confessed to for the shootings
probably before even thought about it he was a fire setter he set over 2,000 fires Bandhan cars
vacant lots and put a match to anything he never got caught a lot of pyromaniacs
grow up to be K*llers I know a lot of them don't why is that Tony asked and I
don't know I don't eat it sometimes it drives me crazy
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how's that tree is coming formatting it right now wide margins I got to keep the
page count up good morning to you too
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Allan Houston they're gonna be done with your paper I'm proving it right now thought I include some pictures in a brief explanation of the systems good no
maybe not maybe not I don't want them to think that we're spending their money on PR it's coming out of my own pocket
you should have mentioned it
good performance Tyree no I'm your dude [Music] Tony
he's doing the dairy farmers who were m*rder*d from Wisconsin we're listening
to this unbelievable ridiculous extreme why did you go to the cafeterias stare
at the cheese come on lass I'm trying to concentrate here expenditure projections
no why not because I was focusing on
this work in an area where you're deficient synergizing with criminals is the most questionable aspect of what we
do I want those projections on my desk today in this staff meeting ten minutes
I had 20 make up a dozen of these one
for every member of the subcommittee one for you and seven copies are going over to the attorney general's office that's good today I've got an itch
here's mine Jimmy have this proof corrected and printed for the binder
please okay skipper business at hand youngster from an ER polish up to some
tissue samples back to dry ice and forgot to fix the diplomatic seal we need you to intercede with customs
Muldoon what's priority visa V Interpol there's been another k*lling in Belgium young couple in Liege one couple every
Valentine's Day for the past 13 years now there's not much we can do about that and what's Alan's got to leave do they celebrate Valentine's Day in
Brussels Jimmy find out anything else nothing that won't wait until you come
back from the hill good there is this fire center in Haynesville North
Carolina five fires in the last 10 days eat progressively bigger more dangerous
there's nothing here for us Ned unless I've missed something well the unsub is starting to get close
to the dwelling a dumbster vacant lot abandoned tractors supermarket and music store exactly see the first three are
where you know there are no people then the supermarket in the music store where people definitely show up shouldn't have
made a turn why did it frustrated fire chief and small tranquil town didn't know where else to turn
tell him to call Raleigh I want to look into this it's probably a teenager definitely a teenager
male white approximately 15 years old below average intelligence socially
maladjusted that's the classic profile classic comment what I was only
following quarters hey what was that
mind schiller you know exactly what I deserve that dismissal you have any idea what I'm
going through to prepare for these hearings I have a pretty good idea that's all you care about recently I know why you want this case then well I
think after 35 years in the job I ought to be able to make it a Cajun he'll call without being dumped on by bureaucrats
bureaucrats just calling a spade a spade
Ned then okay you want to look into this
thing you've got the stripes I want you to take an with you I don't need a haddock come with me well this
bureaucrat does on the off chance your brain is not for schnitzel and bad news you will not be testifying on your
report Tony will Wow I want Ned to look into this fire setter
and I want am to go with him I have my reasons sorry about the mood I'll be a much
happier fellow when I get back from the hill what do I know about your report
try reading it Tony I have to read it
yes what I do how you do reports
that's Ann's expertise she's not a field detective I am she's great in the field
yeah victimology do you know what this
has to do with David Berkowitz doesn't have anything to do with Berkowitz sure it does Berkowitz was a fire setter I
found Ned reviewing his file this morning yeah I know I I can't run up to
that hill and give testimony on her area of expertise why don't you read a report you'll be an expert I can't do it
I might make a fool out of myself in front of all those people it's possible
I could end up embarrassing you the entire unit could be then why should I
do it you were only following orders
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I love irritating him [Music]
you record your emergency calls sure dude get me a copy of all the college or
seasons of fire Eastern I will do where it is Firestein back there by the
upright there's nothing special about it
just a lot of gasoline and a match
yes oh sorry guess you caught me staring
I guess I did you don't read me wrong ma'am I I'm just
a little surprised that the Justice Department responded in the affirmative to my request I also had no idea the
Justice Department could be so pretty what she follows I do declare I i-i've
just always wanted to do that that's all right ma'am you can call me Ronnie
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you're not gonna get all buttermilk pigtails on the area come on now don't be such an old fuddy-duddy buddy but get
up on the crate look through the window
look don't touch the sill see anything
on the sill yeah I need a bag
you all right that one fine get that to Alan the overnight mail
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I want to go back to the hotel huh [Music]
why you listen to that tape I can't you check this week I meant if we sent it to
Washington Alan could run it through the sound spectrograph and get a voice print I sent him the original already this is
a dub any repeat callers I haven't heard it all yeah keywords or phrases the mic
I said I haven't heard it all yet what do you say we take a break and get some
dinner we know who this guy is fifteen to twenty below average intelligence socially maladjusted just a
second that's twice I've had to listen to you say that below average intelligence according to WHO the
McKinley report and did this McKinley character did he call her a couple dozen fire setters before he hung up his badge
he was a professor of behavioral sciences at Berkeley a bare-knuckle beat
if ever there was one you can write a k*ll this if you want to net but the fact is everything we know
about fire starters is - based on what you learned after they were caught by guys who never heard of them again in
rapport Whittle gone on first term basis with these kids most of whom are just trying to establish a little control on
her life Ned we're not talking about a one-time thrill-seeker here we're talking about a pathological firestarter
you don't know he's pathological no he could have a thing for barbecues but I wouldn't count on it cause it wouldn't
validate what you do what the hell does that mean without a sickness you can't
provide a cure you can't justify those initials after your name I don't have to
justify them to you or anyone else if
you don't want to talk to me about what your problem is Ned that's fine but I'm through taking a shellacking for this I came down here to help you out
and I didn't ask you but I'm here I cashed my check - no so you can just
forget about the help all right I'm here work in the same case no we're not you're looking for a pathologically
motivated criminal with assuming hatred for society I'm looking for a kid who probably figures the whole
world is stacked against him all he wants is for the few people in his life that he cares about to stop and listen
that's all any kid wants and a damn video games in the stereos that doesn't
matter they just want someone to stop and listen must've been one hell of a
father just because I knew what to do doesn't mean I did it come on let's get
dinner I don't want to keep at this by
then I'm gonna pick you up in an hour and we're gonna have dinner at a restaurant that does not serve catch it
stop and listen
I just want to say you're working with you guys it's been one of the best things that's ever happened to me and
I'm really gonna miss it Tony this isn't a goodbye dinner because this isn't goodbye
come on West he doesn't send me to North Carolina with Ned I know the units in money trouble our appropriations are
being cut back but he doesn't really like me although I've broke my back hey he respects your talent too much to let
you go he knows what you put into the job and what the job takes out of you so why doesn't he let me do it why is he making
me slog through Anne's report I don't understand half of it we didn't motor Haynesville either it's different with
you guys you guys don't have to work on the road I mean you guys can do you work in the fish ball but I'm worthless if
I'm not doing what I do best on a crime scene y'all something West he just tell you flat out if he was gonna let you go
Stella letting you twist in the wind he doesn't know me it's a business I know that I've been a hotshot I've shot from
the lip I know that too he sees part of himself in you you told me that yeah the
party like to have surgically removed Tony stop torturing yourself talk to him I'm afraid to talk to him I'm afraid I
might explode I mean my ego was just as big as his you know I mean you can't he
can't just shut me out like this why can't he why can't he deal with me like a man look I'm not being paranoid
here I just want to know what he's saying about me because if he thinks he's gonna cut me up and throw me to that committee well then he should at least admit it to me let's duck exactly
how you feel there's a joke I want in come on Platt I
was just thinking of the cheap little novels being ripped in the head all the
guys watch me dance with them if I were them I would be gonna be driving me nuts
you are a terrific dancer [Music]
I told you could come with me but you can't hang around embarrassing me like your old friends
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let me get that thank you bet I'm with someone story of my life I hear you is that
someone you want to be with sort of
drive you nuts doesn't it
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I didn't embarrass you there fella bar no good-looking fella it's okay
probably shouldn't scare them off Ned
[Applause] [Music] I owe you an apology
dad I told you I didn't want to be picked up by that guy no no for acting
like the horses for not graciously accepting your help when I was listening
to that tape you don't owe me an apology I wouldn't mind an explanation see it
burned me to hear you talking about that dim-witted socially backward fire center
because I I never thought of myself as dim-witted my folks having their
troubles I was about 14 or so some kids
a home is a safe harbor me and my brothers it was a constant storm watch
I'm sorry dad I started setting fires
you know little ones as trash cans yard there was a feeling of power that I got
from this was something I could control even if I couldn't control anything else
then when my dad decided to go for good I went down in the basement and started
a fire burn the house down did anyone get hurt no I got lucky when
I was in the juvie there was a counselor that got me to realize that those fires were kind of
like a an SOS stop listen to me stop and
listen this kid were after maybe he's asking his folks the same thing
come on let's go hundreds of students escaped injury last night when an apparent arsonist struck again in
Haynesville the fire dros one high school apparently started in a janitor storage room I spread to the gymnasium
where dancers in progress Fire Department officials said only the quick reporting in the fire by one of
the students prevented loss of life reporting live from Rosemont hi this is Diana towers of Channel 10 News this guy
called him twice fire two nights ago on the fire last week at the supermarket well fires four and five or six blocks
apart it's conceivable he saw two fire yes drunk as he sounds just can see who bullies saw two of everything
closes mr. low-frequency I'm surprised he's able to stand we had one of the
multiple caller yeah she also reported
the supermarket fire come now that's interesting the profile says male but I
think our unsub's a girl I get a chromatography on the fiber and found on the scene there are traces of propylene
glycol which gives that flowery fragrance to precious a perfume that's popular with teenage girls and what
about the fiber itself the red fibers are cotton wool blends used by a company that specializes in varsity sweaters
company sells two or three high schools in the area one of which hosted last
night's fire Rosemont high home of the Red Dragons let's print this out and fax
at the net man
was there anybody left inside when the fire department arrived uh yeah me and my friends were in the bathroom on first
floor you know try and get away from the smoke and then I think Richard called I didn't know how bad it was so I figured
I should call someone so you're the hero yeah well you know
there was there was all this smoke I figured it was better to call it even if I was wrong
someone could have got hurt with all those people you might not kenapa piece
of that footage for it I already did that copies yours did you get the kids names and addresses I'll be happy to let
you have them but you'll have to go through legal listen if any of these kids give you a call you mind giving us
a jingle we're at the carriage Inn sure thing Thanks thank you see a phone booth
around are you calling memory serves me correctly Bell added one minute the spectrograph probably gotta grab this
knocked out in a couple ah you think they're on this tape is the same one that Alan and Norma isolated from the
emergency calls generalisations I'm
counting to three and this door better be open one two I heard you the first 50
million times I leave you brush your teeth what are you the queen of hygiene this
is my bathroom - ouch this is no way to treat a hero you're not a hero you're a
dweeb
you gonna be alright tonight I'll be fine I've left the number where we're
staying by the phone there's a 20 in my top drawer which barn in emergency should be there when we get back
pizzas aren't emergencies what are you doing to my newspaper here it is mom
last night's blaze at Rosemont Senior High a huge pain I ruined a great dance
my last one Richard Colley a freshman at the school noticed smoke from a janitor
supply room honey we have to go that way here's my quote we've heard you're quotable wonderfulness ace give it a
rest I wasn't doing anything special just didn't want anyone to get hurt said the alert young man said the alert young
man bridge honey have you got your sheet music I want to make it to Chapel Hill by nightfall I'm relaxed okay I already
got the scholarship they just want to hear me play I'm sorry I guess I'm just so proud of you on top
of your playing you making those high SAT scores and save an $1,800 cashiering
I could have worked there too if that damn supermarket hadn't burned down don't you worry honey
we'll get you to college somehow let's see if he makes it through high school first you could apply yourself a little
more Richard I apply myself yeah my things I told you about taking my
sweater now there's a big bowl of chili in the freezer you can have a friend over but no parties who party with him
we'll call when we get there
why don't you just add to it to chest hero better use small letters
[Music] everybody's got problems gentlemen you
meet every department on the hill we're all bleeding today right the whole
nation is bleeding and I love that word bleeding well the taxpayers want relief
they're sick and tired of footing the bill for Eagle measuring contest with the world's law enforcement agency I'm
here what this to me I got a ins report down cold at 3 o'clock don't light all after my voice you're gonna take me into
the game you gonna do it anyway nobody
cares agent Grayson sleepy you are you ready yes sir mr. chairman I have a
last-minute addendum bio mr. Grayson when you're ready
congressman Radomski I I certainly appreciate this opportunity
mr. Grayson we've got a lot to go over if you please before getting into the
specific rationale of each of my requests congressman I would like to provide an overview contained in your binder there in addition to the ratios
of the cost per conviction as well as cost per victim you'll find the constraints the various cutbacks we've
already endured with regard specifically to the cost of the day-to-day maintenance of perhaps the most
sophisticated crime detection Center in the history of modern criminology a
science which as you well know is bound only by the limits of its nation's needs and by the constraints of time within
which we must all function I therefore ask before applying any further cutbacks to the operating budget of CPU it should
consider two things first of all these these tools of our trade our objects of
high technology the wonder of modern thinking and secondly that my requests
be considered not with an abject eye but with an eye to the future excuse me
mr. Grayson but would it be to abject of me to ask what the hell's so sophisticated about this yes congressman
on the surface that's it's a cow bovine Holstein browner I can see that
well that's exactly my point sir but to the trained observer the trained eye
with no more than a fiber from the from a piece of blue denim which we found by
isolating the pixels on that photographed without incurring of course the cost of flying to Wisconsin mr. gray
are you gonna give me my cutbacks or do I have to move this in your Holstein Calif into my office tomorrow mr.
Grayson my office West I'm sorry I
didn't know I don't know how that got in there I didn't mean to screw up their idea of
what it is we do those ivory tower jokers haven't a clue as to what we do
only what it costs I don't understand how you can put up with these guys I do
it because they have to welcome to the
real world pal
so when I taped the glass that's from Allen Norma the others the news tape boy
last night Richard call it mm-hmm I got 16 feet from in five seconds of
glory that's prepositional phrase I think my
man oh that's it he's our caller well he
fits your profile to a tee now let's just go see how pathologically
dim-witted he actually is [Music]
you know what you're gonna say
external and maybe they went out for me
call the fire department you see
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we appreciate the call I figured this is our boy just take it easy son check yeah
you need attention officers Platte and Madison this is
chief prosecuting attorney Owen Magnuson I want to talk to the boy nobody's talking to anybody sign you're
under arrest we appreciate all you've done for us mr. Platt you too ma'am
have a nice flight congressman you asked
me for a complete by department review and you've been dealing with committees and budgets long enough to understand
that when we asked for a review we mean what can you do without and the CPU has already had to learn to conduct its
business where the bullseye in the back hypnosis empathic science doesn't sound
to me like you're being shot at you know I was hoping that you'd present us with rollbacks of your own but apparently you
felt your time was better spent defending your budget with this tone what do you want to start or do you want
me to wait a minute how are you gonna cut back something you don't even understand ami empathic science accounts for maybe
maybe 10% of what we do if you want to quantify it but to focus arbitrarily
upon that small element that's not a small element Wes you've been running a gravy train and as far as this office is
concerned it's about to let a few of its passengers off what the hell are you
grinning about oh nothing sorry I was just uh it was nothing I was thinking about something
else well that's just wonderful isn't she my wife's the center of my life now
let's get a wife Claire
Claire she makes you feel one doesn't she what else he trying to do I feel her
in this room Tony this is not at the time I'm not
gonna stand for this who needs satin sheets when you're in love right get him out of here yeah yeah
room I need room service room service at
the Four Seasons I need room service at the Four Seasons Claire loves room service
at the Four Seasons doesn't she doesn't she I will not be blackmailed I don't
know who you've been talking to but this isn't going to work I will not be blackmailed do you hear me congressman
would you would you care to table this conversation until say the next quarter
yes yes
yes I think sessions probably review
your report where I'm a little more clear of my look why don't you look at
some trims here and there and we'll review it next quarter
Thanks pleasure
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I heard a couple of guys talking about in the bathroom [Music]
mrs. Kolya boys a Firebug and he's gonna do time for it he's 15 yes ma'am and already done near
$100,000 worth of damage to this town I'd like to talk to the boy I don't
think so why don't you people leave are you waiting for us to hold you a parade I'd
like to pray but first I want to talk to the boy I said no I don't think it's your decision to make I think it's up to
mrs. calling you can talk to him I sure don't want him going to jail you don't think you should be punished
are you willing or able to make good on the property he destroyed you know I can't do that I don't know what happened
to him I guess he couldn't get over his daddy's death your daughter didn't go
out and burn up half the town a juvenile facility you'll come back you trained in
crimes other than ours and we'll send his butt right back to jail you know I've arrested more people in my
career than reside this Connie why is it you're behaving like I'm a member of the ACLU cuz I think you got something up
your sleeve dry skin and arthritis friend now can I talk to Richard I don't see the harm in
it well fine but my duty is clear I'm gonna prosecute your duty is to protect
and maintain the safety and peace of the community and that doesn't always manifest itself in the form of prosecution what do you expect to get I
want to know why that's all can I talk
to him now
my name is Ned Platt I'm with the Justice Department like a
cop sort of like a cop you know they don't mind too much
I'm the guy that pulled you out of your house last night what I didn't want to
see you die in there I figured you didn't want to die in there either
not really no would you know what I wanted I remembered what it was like
when I burned my house down Yeah right Copple burned his house down I wasn't a
cop when it happened yeah I'm gonna tell
you a story son and you're gonna sit down and listen what if I don't I'll
break your arm
Quorra that wasn't the first fire that I said there are the things out in the
backyard woodshed that my father took what I remember how I felt watching
those things burn that's like oh hey everybody I did that I felt powerful
school and at home why I didn't have any control over anything but I sure had
control over those fires once I said I could make everyone pay attention
we get a confession here send the boy to Charlotte save the taxpayers some money
only in the short run we know what happens when a juvenile acento it's
essentially a holding tank for state prison we're inside to be a career criminal folks up in Washington rely on
statistics folks down here rely on me they want to be protected what to
protect can also be to prevent to prevent taking a kid who can be helped and turning him into an animal that has
to be caged yes I thought I was fixing
things see my mom and dad they were
fighting a lot and my dad left and I had to make him see what he was doing doing
what he was doing to me and I thought setting that fire would get him back did
it he came around make sure I was okay and then I didn't see him again 15 years
my dad's dead
he was k*lled by a drunk driver two years ago
whom my mom I could never even were you real close
with him he sad this old beater did we run or anything we used to select to
work on it this is gonna be mine [Music]
she sold some guy for parts
I wouldn't run anyway he shut him out I couldn't live with the pain I have a
responsibility here to the people of this town he committed a crime he can
pay for it with what he's 15 you can work it off I can keep him busy at the
firehouse a few afternoons a week maybe he can talk to other kids you know maybe
keep some other kid from turning and my
sister she's a smart one of the family she has scholarship Minh Anh funkin
three subjects did you always have trouble in school
now now everyone says you just don't apply
yourself I heard it all the time myself
did you set those fires in the music store in the supermarket
and the school but then you phone the fire department
[Music] I didn't want anyone to get hurt and
maybe you thought people pay attention if you say to school
it's alright son it's alright
you can put them on probation see that he gets therapy and assign them to community service there is a financial
as well as a legal responsibility here look at the moral responsibility not to make a kid suffer the rest of his life
because of something that wasn't his fault to begin with your move on
there may be a chance I can get the insurance companies to sign off on this agree to put them on probation if I can
I won't press the charges good call
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01x08 - Burn Out
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Series revolves around an elite FBI forensic team that investigates serial murderers and other violent crimes. Unsub is an abbreviation for the "unknown subject" of an investigation.
Series revolves around an elite FBI forensic team that investigates serial murderers and other violent crimes. Unsub is an abbreviation for the "unknown subject" of an investigation.