08x11 - A Widow's Revenge

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08x11 - A Widow's Revenge

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There were people
who d*ed out here.

Chaos is happening,
lots of fighting going on.

I don't think anyone
should have to be afraid.

And I am.

People are afraid of her.

I don't want anything
to hurt my baby.

I just feel fear, fear, fear.

This is driving me insane.

This seems like a possession.

My name is Amy Allan.

Everything was built on blood.

I see dead people.

Very disturbing.

I speak to dead people.

There's victims around him.
Ow.

And they speak to me.

Her voice sounds like death.

But there's only one way
to know if my findings are real.

The living don't
stand a chance here.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve Di Schiavi.

I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.

You could have
got k*lled.

And I know every person,
every house has secrets.

This is coming
straight from Hell.

It's my job to reveal them.

Your mom was m*rder*d
right here in this room?

Yes, she was.

But Steve and I never speak...

We never communicate
during an investigation.

...until the very end...

This was
just the beginning.

...when we uncover
if it's safe for you to stay...

Oh, my God.

...or time to get out.

They're very bad.

This house
is going to k*ll me.

I'm in the small town
of Dumfries, Virginia,

just 25 miles south of D.C.

I got a call
from a desperate lady

who says the town's
historic museum

she works at has become
a paranormal w*r zone.

People are seeing
all sorts of crazy things

and getting physically att*cked.

She says, if we can't help her,

someone's gonna
get seriously hurt.

Before Amy arrives,

I clear the area
of any leading information.

This museum has a lot
of historic items,

photographs and religious icons

that have to be
covered or removed.

When I'm done, the location

will be ready
for tonight's walk.

The dead here are upset about

some of the structural
and land changes.

Trying to let their anger,
like, go.

'Cause I don't want to
fixate on that.

And it's, like...

I'm seeing, uh,
this big graveyard.

And then I see this house.

And it's inside the graveyard.

That is so weird.

Unless there's been a ton
of deaths here, I don't know.

It doesn't make any sense.

When we spoke on the phone,

you sounded, um, scared,
for lack of a better word.

What's --
what's going on here?

This place, um,
is a dream job for me.

But my hopes here
are getting dashed,

because the amount of
the paranormal activity here

has been downright
frightening.

You've got to be afraid
to come to work every day.

Sometimes,
I have to admit,

I'll pull into
the parking space.

And I will hesitate
when I get out of my car.

So why don't you just leave?
It's a job, right?

I love this place.

It would be heartbreaking.
I don't want to give it up.

When I drove up,
I saw the two buildings here.

Yes. The building
we're in right now

is the annex building.

The house on the corner
is the actual museum house.

And that was constructed
back in the 1700s.

Both, um, buildings
on the property,

there's restoration efforts
going on year-round.

What are you guys
experiencing?

Footsteps, voices,

dark shadows
moving through the room,

doors opening, closing.

It's been,
um, getting physical.

Been on tours

and we have had guests
who have been touched,

uh, their clothes
pulled on,

things of that nature.

Now, what kind of tours
do you do here?

We do a historic tour.

And, in October,
we do haunted tours.

- Oh.
- Mm-hmm.

That could be a problem.

There are some people
who come here specifically

for that, you know,
want to investigate.

So what are you hoping
we can do for you?

My dearest wish
is not to leave here.

I don't think anyone
should have to be afraid.

And I am.

There's a male here.
He's apparently inside.

And he says, "Hi!

Welcome! I'm Uncle Bob!"

Uh, he's a big guy.

Uh, I think
he was an owner.

Any interaction
with the living?

Uh, he goes, "I talk
to them all the time."

He even says people
have taken pictures of him.

He doesn't...care
for certain aesthetics

that are here.

The way he expresses
his dislike,

uh, is by pounding
on the ceilings,

messing with the light
fixtures and the lights.

Living people will
physically hear

and see this phenomena
happening.

Okay, Erica.

So tell me what's
going on in here.

To begin with, we hear footsteps
happen all during the day.

Uh, sometimes it sounds

like just one man
walking in heavy boots.

Sometimes
it sounds like

there's a whole troop
of men.

When you hear that,

do you go upstairs at all
to investigate?

Absolutely not.

Okay.
There anything else?

I've seen
a full-bodied apparition.

He came in through
our side door,

walked down our hallway

and disappeared
into our kitchen.

Okay.
Anything else?

- Well, I had my hair pulled.
- So what happened?

Well, I was touring
some guests.

And I felt fingers slide up
the back of my head.

And then I felt
those fingers tighten.

And then my hair was yanked.
- Okay.

The obvious question
I'm gonna ask,

"Was anybody behind you?"

There was no one
behind me.

That was probably the most
disturbing thing about it.

I think there's some maybe
little negative things

that he does to the living.

But he knows that, at times,

people misinterpret his touch.

Uncle Bob doesn't know
how they see him.

Ugh.

He's, like, telling me that
any other dead people

are just simply not important.

This is driving me insane.

I feel like he's trying
to cover something up.

He's saying,
"I'm the king of this castle."

And he's, like, smothering me.

So, Erica, why'd you take me
out here to the park?

Because one of my more

horrifying experiences
happened here.

I saw, uh,
a shadow figure.

Okay,
describe it to me.

I saw a shape that had to have
been at least 7 foot tall.

It was humanoid in that
it had two arms and two legs.

But the way it moved
wasn't like a human.

And, as it moved away,

its legs elongated
like a spider.

It was the strangest thing
I've ever seen in my life

and absolutely terrifying.

It scared me to death.

Now, have you ever seen anything
that looked like that again?

Not quite like that.

I do see shadow figures
out here, but not as tall.

I see them often,
along our fence line.

You know this
is not normal, right?

Oh, I'm well aware
of that.

I love this place.

And I don't want
to leave it.

There's a lot of men,

uh, moving about,
uh, working.

And I'm feeling like there
were people who d*ed out here.

So how would it
affect the living?

I think, you know,
they might hear things.

They might see, like, men.

I just feel awful, though.

Mmm.

Very sick, sick
and dizzy and, like,

I think that living people
would not feel good out there.

I just feel sick.

Uhh.

So, Joann, how long have you
been the director here?

- Eight years.
- Eight years.

- Yes.
- Now, from what I understand,

we're lucky that you're even
talking with me right now.

Is that right?
- That's correct.

- What happened?
- I ended up in the hospital.

I was basically told that
I was on the verge of dying.

- You're kidding me.
- No.

Okay. So the doctors know
what happened to you?

No.

Okay.

I'm seeing five men.

There's a woman walking
around bringing drinks.

These men are
drinking, arguing.

Chaos is happening.

Ooh, ooh, lots
of fighting going on.

What they're doing
is not right.

Uh, so it's thick.

And it just zaps you,
just zaps you.

So how would it
affect the living?

It would make them very,
very tired, very tired.

And it could affect
their potassium level,

which is not good,

which could bring
on heart issues.

Do you have
any experiences

that you can share
with me?

I've had my son literally
be thrown down the stairs.

- The stairs here?
- Yes.

Now, did your son
get hurt?

No, luckily not.

Did you see it happen?

Three other people
saw it happen.

So he's lucky he's okay.

You got to be concerned
that one of your patrons

might fall down
a flight of stairs.

- Yes, very much so.
- Okay.

So is there anything
else going on here?

Well, I've seen and heard
an old man in here.

He's in older, uh, clothing.
- Okay.

Uh, and he looks like
he's from the 1700s.

I've seen him move books.

What are you hoping we can
do now that we're here now?

Anything to keep us safe,
that is the main thing.

Okay.

There's a man in here
who's just crying.

I think that people
would hear a man crying and,

like, screaming and yelling.

If people were around him a lot,

uh, they would experience

a great amount of depression.

I think that he, uh,
might interact

with the living often, uh,

because he doesn't
know he's dead.

It's possible that
they might see an app--

apparition with him.

Because he's so --

he is pretty damn solid.

He's super, like, physical.

So, Natalie, I understand
that you work here.

- Mm-hmm.
- Okay. Uh, what do you do?

I'm a volunteer.
I do tours.

Okay. So how do you
like working here?

It's gotten intense
with the spirits and stuff.

I'm very uncomfortable.
I'm also pregnant, too.

And I'm very protective
of my baby.

I don't want anything
to hurt my baby.

Okay.

Tell me about some experiences
you've had in here.

I saw a floating head
of a sl*ve.

A what?

It was, like,
just a floating face.

And it just...Boom!

It was, like, really fast.

It scared me to death.

You doing anything that
may make you hallucinate,

seeing floating heads?
- No.

Okay, so anything else?

Yes. I was
in the annex building.

And I felt pressure
on my chest.

It was really intense
to the point

where I couldn't breathe,

like I was having
a heart att*ck, practically.

I could feel pressure.
I could feel it was a man.

And it was just angry.

Okay.
So I'm curious.

I mean, how heavy of a feeling?
Just demonstrate to me.

- Kind of like...
- Oh, I see what you're saying,

like a body was
just leaning on ya.

Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Laying on me.

I've been touched
a lot, too.

The first tour we gave,
I was standing over here.

And I felt cold hands
going through my hair.

And I've been
touched on my back.

I've been tugged at.

I've been touched
on my legs, feet.

Now, when you say you've been
touched in those areas,

were you talking
in a sexual way?

Or just a...
- Just like a touch.

Just like a touch,
cold touch I could feel.

Okay.

Well, why the hell
are you sticking around?

'Cause the family,
I love the family here.

We've all grown
so close together.

I don't want to go.

Okay.

There's a woman,
and she's crying.

I think, if a living person
is around her enough,

uh, they might develop
various illnesses.

She's prone to tantrums.

People are afraid of her.

If they get in her way,

I feel like, uh,

they might feel like
they're being slapped

or pushed, uh, physically.

I don't want to piss her off.

Just how physical
can she get?

I think that she can shove them
and, you know,

like, push them down the stairs.

Oh
She can harm people.

The second I got out of town,

I called a few local historians.

One name kept coming up over
and over again, the Merchants.

When I called
the local genealogist,

he told me a Merchant family

really did live on the property.

And they had a lot of heartache
while they were there.

Don, I know
Richard Merchant

lived on my client's property
at some point.

What can you tell me
about him?

Well,
the Merchant family,

uh, has been prominent
in Dumfries

for over 200 years.

This guy Richard sounds
like a rich kid.

Yes.
You can tell from the way

he's dressed that,
uh, he has some money.

Okay,
so what's his story?

He gets married in 1877.

His wife is Annie Spieks.

What do we know
about her?

She was, uh, about the same
social level as he was.

So, Don, you mentioned
on the phone

that the family
had a lot of heartache.

Uh, what'd you mean
by that?

Well, they had
four children,

three of whom d*ed
young and tragically.

The first child
was a boy named James.

And he only lived
6 months.

There's no official record
of his, uh, death.

The second child
was also a boy named,

uh, Richard Jr.
- Okay.

And, uh, lived
to the age of 4.

We do have a death
certificate for him.

Okay.

And it shows that
he d*ed of meningitis.

Okay, so this kid
suffered before he d*ed.

- Yes.
- What was the third death?

The third child was,
uh, Mary Frances.

In 1906, she d*ed
of an epileptic seizure

at the age of 23.

How did Richard
and the wife handle this?

Not well, apparently.

Only 6 months
after Mary Frances d*ed,

Richard d*ed.

This is a copy
of his obituary.

Oh, he was only 54
when he d*ed.

Okay, what's he dying of?
- Don't really know.

There's no official
death certificate for him.

Okay.
So now the wife,

Annie's left
without her husband,

lost three children now.
What happens with Annie?

She stays on the property
for the rest of her life

with her one
remaining child.

This is a picture of her

shortly after
her husband d*ed.

So, when you said
this family

suffered some heartache
on the property,

you aren't kidding.
- No.

Okay.

Crying lady.

She's gone through a lot
of losses in her life.

Uh, I think she lost
several children.

It seems to me like
she's very spoiled.

So I'm thinking she might've
come from money.

Definitely a big complainer,

big complainer,
big-time martyr.

People are afraid of her.

So far, I've got clients

being physically assaulted
on a property

where one of the original owners
lost three young children.

But I want to see if
there's anything else.

Searching through town records,

I find that Dumfries
was caught right

in the middle
of the Civil w*r,

and that it changed hands
between Confederate

and Union patrols several times.

I'm heading over to meet
with a Civil w*r historian

who says Erica's museum
is literally built

over the remains of hundreds
of Confederate soldiers.

All right.

David, you mentioned
on the phone

there were probably
hundreds of, uh, soldiers

buried on the property
I'm investigating.

Did all these men
die in battle?

Uh, there weren't a lot
of casualties from battles.

To be quite honest
with you,

most of the casualties that
you're gonna see in Dumfries

occur from three things --
from starvation,

from the elements
and from disease.

Okay.

In the winter of 1861
and '62, there was a --

a good bit of, uh, issue
with weather,

with the elements because
it was extremely cold.

Both winters
were very rough.

What's your estimate
on how many dead

Confederate soldiers
are in Dumfries?

It could be
as many as 1,000.

Wow.
Okay.

I see, like, men marching.

I think they have, like,
gray uniforms on.

Somebody's banging the drums.

And I saw frozen dead people.

And they were, like,
encrusted in ice.

Then I see...
Many people over the years

have d*ed along this path.

What was the age --
average age

for a soldier back then?

Uh, a soldier should be,

you know,
16, 17, 18 years old.

Paint the picture what
these kids were going through

when they were stationed there.
- It's cold.

There's snow
on the ground.

There's a lot of people

camped in
a very tight location.

The sanitation is poor...

- Right.
- ...at best.

And so, if you have
one of those men

that contracts a disease
that can be spread,

it spreads
like wildfire.

Food is hard to come by, too.
People are starving.

This is pretty traumatic
for these guys.

Yes, sir,
like Hell on earth.

I'm seeing the crying man again.

He didn't have any food.

He doesn't like the conditions.

He -- he saw a lot of bad stuff.

Like, he's showing me a memory

that he has of
a guy's head exploding.

And he can't get
that out of his mind.

He's young.

Uh, I think he's,
like, 16, 17, 18.

He's really sick.

Because everybody either d*ed
or everybody got sick.

Oh, he's got, like,
blood in his mouth.

I feel like he got, like,
beaten and, like, sh*t.

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You know, another thing
caught my eye in research.

There was a deadly duel

right next to the grounds
of the museum.

This thing goes back
to the late 1700s.

So I couldn't find
too much on it.

But I'm on my way to meet
with a local professor

who says the story
involves race,

privilege and bloodshed.

So, Kelly, this duel
that happened in --

in the 1700s, were you able
to find out anything for me?

Yeah.
Actually, it all started

with the Scott family,
James and Sarah Scott.

They were wealthy
Scottish immigrants.

And they came here.

And he was actually
the reverend

of this church
right over here.

And the family came over.

They had
a 2,000-acre plantation.

They owned 26 slaves.

All right.
So now we got rich immigrants

living on my client's
property here.

How does that
turn into a duel?

There was a little
boy named Davy.

He was 7 years old.

He was one of
the slaves on there.

Okay.

And, one day, he runs away.
And he gets caught.

And he gets brought back
to the plantation.

The reverend's wife,
Sarah, takes a cane.

And she hits him twice
in the head

and kills him.
- All right.

So what winds up
happening with her?

She goes to trial.

And she gets acquitted.

You're kidding.

18th century, she's white,
it's what happened.

I see different,
like, laborers working.

And I'm feeling like there
were people who d*ed out here.

Like, basically,
people were m*rder*d.

But it was claimed to be
justice or legal or something.

But it -- but it wasn't really.

Well, I think the people
being m*rder*d were --

were black men and women.

I'm just hearing
something about justice

and justice being served.

All right.

So how does this
turn into a duel?

So, right after
Sarah Scott gets off,

there was a local colonel
whose name was John Baylis.

And he was very upset
by what happened.

Okay, so what --
what'd he do?

So he started doing
a smear campaign,

saying that --
that they were dishonorable.

I mean, this was -- this was
a reverend and his wife.

And, about two
and a half years later,

their son, John Scott,

decided to challenge him
to a duel

because of all the pain

he was causing
their family socially.

Okay, so what happens
with that?

So, on September 24,
1765,

the duel took place
right here.

And the whole town came out
to watch this happen.

And John Scott decides
to have his brother-in-law,

Cuthbert Bullitt,
stand in for him.

Okay.

So the kid that starts
the duel doesn't even...

Nope, he doesn't
even participate.

Okay.
So how's the duel go down?

They do their
traditional 13 paces.

And John Baylis is the one
who's supposed to fire first.

And he sh**t,
and he misses.

Yeah.
So Bullitt sh**t him,

hits him in the groin
and the thigh.

Here's the newspaper article
about it right here.

Okay.

And he ends up
bleeding to death

after 5 hours.
- All right.

So it sounds like
this guy got hit

and then slowly bled out.
- Yep.

I mean, you talk about
a miserable death.

This guy really suffered
before he d*ed.

I'm -- I'm getting, like,
something about

a impact to a male.

Confusion, uh, stumbling.

Really don't feel very good.

He's dying.

So he's stuck in
that pre-death state.

I just feel a lot of panic,
like, fear, fear, fear.

Just feel awful, though.

Hmm, very sick.

I saw several dead people
on my walk.

But the crying woman

attacking the living
concerned me the most.

She was very thin and frail.

Her mouth just looked
sad and angry.

And this elderly female

is socking a nondescript male
in the face.

Amy,
is this who you saw?

Yes, that's who I saw.

Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,

we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other

and our clients
for the first time.

So, Amy, this must be
one hell of a place to work.

Because, after what these
two ladies have been through,

I can't believe they're
even sitting here.

This is Erica.
She's the assistant director.

Uh, this is Natalie.

She's a volunteer
for a few months now.

And they've been through hell.

Now, Erica called us in
because she's afraid

of somebody getting hurt.

And, if that happens,


they're gonna have
to shut down the museum.

So, now that Amy knows
a little bit about you guys,

I'm gonna ask her
to describe her walk.

I saw the main building
inside a graveyard,

which I thought
was really odd.

That indicated to me
that it was possible

that a lot of deaths
had, uh, occurred.

I walked around the yard.
The first people

that I encountered
were in gray uniforms.

And they were marching.

And I kept hearing, like,
this weird drum b*at.

And then I got that there
were a lot of people

who were extremely ill.

And then
I saw a lot of bodies

that were encased
in ice and frost.

Well, I might be able
to explain what you saw.

Right now, there's a good chance

that we're sitting on
the remains

of some Confederate soldiers.

Now, they wore gray uniforms.

From what I was told, about
1,000 of 'em d*ed right here.

During the w*r, the soldiers

were camped out right
on these grounds.

Conditions were hellish,
freezing-cold temperatures,

no running water, no sanitation.

Food was scarce.
It was basically Hell on Earth.

Hundreds d*ed from starvation,

freezing to death,

disease and basically

were buried
right where they d*ed.

That absolutely
makes sense.

I walked to houses.

Which house did you
go into first?

- The bigger house.
- Which is the annex.

The annex.

The only thing I was able
to get there

was this older man.

And he was this extraordinarily
dominant personality.

As soon as I walked up
and opened the door,

he's like, "Hi!

You can call me
Uncle Bob!"

He was a rather big guy.

Uh, he looked like
he was some type of farmer.

He said that he tries

to interact with
the living a lot over there.

He said that he tries
to talk to them a lot.

He has tried to take
pictures with them.

He says that he tries
to show people around,

but they misinterpret
his touch.

You mentioned that this guy
had his picture taken?

Sure, yeah.
He wants to be

the center of attention
all the time.

In October,
you guys do this thing.

Tell Amy about...

In October, we do,
um, ghost walks.

And we take a walk
going from our annex

to the cemetery

and then to the house.

Like, you're not
harassing...

No, we have a very strict
code of conduct...

- Oh, okay. Good.
- ...that we maintain.

He also dislikes
very much

what's happening
to the building.

And, when he gets angry,

he'll do things like bang
on the ceilings.

Um, and it's actually him,
like, jumping from the floor

and, like, hitting, you know,
hitting the ceilings.

Tell Amy about
knocks and bangs.

Constant.

A lot of knocks, bangs,

it's on and off
all throughout the day.

When he gets upset,
like,

he throws a tantrum
like he's a 2-year-old.

Like, he's a f--
like, weirdo.

Uh, he got really
in my space

and started to, like,
kind of smother me.

I was thinking that
the living might experience

that feeling as well.

Yeah, I've experienced that,
like, something,

just pressure on my shoulders

and my chest where
I couldn't breathe.

I mean, it was really
intense to the point

where I had to get up
and leave the building.

It was actually not long
after I started working there

that I had a few issues
where I was feeling

like I couldn't
catch my breath.

And I was just, you know,
I had to kind of step outside

and, you know,
get it together.

Is that this -- this guy?

Yes.

I do not like being
in the office by myself,

um, because I feel
something there.

He could become more
of a sexual predator, um,

and could go further
with acting his desires out.

Mean -- I mean, it can
end up in -- into r*pe.

Okay.
Anything else?

So I finally went into
the main house, the little one.

And I went into the room
where there's, like,

a dining room table
and a fireplace.

There were, like,
four or five males.

Uh, they were all white.

There was a woman

who was, like,
giving them drinks and food.

And they were all having this,
like, heated argument.

And there
was a lot of anger.

It was extremely chaotic.

And it could be dangerous
for the living, um,

because it's so much
energy there

that it could tap
a living person's energy

and cause their potassium
level to drop.

And also, just being
in that situation,

it absolutely drains you.

So you'll feel fatigued
in that room and tired.

Sometimes, I go in.

It's heavy.
It's oppressive.

I feel, um, wiped out.

I'm sorry.
I'm getting upset.

I've been in that
side of the house.

And I was actually making
my way towards the stairway.

And -- and this feeling
came over me.

It was just like,
you know, when you --

you know, when you
really want to cry?

Mm-hmm.

And it's that feeling
like you're just gonna cry.

So I've experienced that
on a couple of occasions.

Now, Natalie,
you're pregnant.

You're a couple weeks, right?
- Yeah, yeah.

I'm -- I'm worried now
that it --

after what you just said
about the room in there,

could that affect my baby,
hurt my baby in any way?

Okay, anything else?

So this individual
I'm...concerned about.

Um, she's a bit
of trouble.

She's depressed.

And she, like, is full
of, like, self-pity.

And, when I first
encountered her,

she was just crying
and crying and crying.

She's very used
to getting her own way.

And if she doesn't
get her own way,

she literally, like a child,
throws a tantrum.

And the ways that she can
lash out towards the living,

what she indicated was
that she could slap people.

She could shove people.

People can get sick
from her.

I think that people
could possibly see her.

I was giving a tour.

And I could feel,
uh, hands going up --

a hand going up
the back of my head

and then fisting my hair
and yanking it.

- Whoa!
- So it yanked my head back.

It was strong enough.

And it was --
and I actually got verbal.

I said, "Stop, please."

That -- would --
that would've been her?

Yeah.

I've been touched on my butt.

I've been touched
on my back, my shoulders.

I've been touched a lot.

The other problem is

you've had people
pushed down those stairs.

Yes, at least
that I know of,

on three occasions.

Oh, she really did it,
huh?

One of the things
that I saw

was her going after
a living male.

And so I did
have a sketch done.

She ain't playing games,
is she?

No.

That's...

It's creepy.

It makes me feel uncomfortable.

You have any idea who this woman
might've been in life?

She looked to be about
in her, uh, 30s,

early 30s, I would say.

And the way she was dressed,
she just had on,

like, a white dressing gown,
you know, for bed.

And, uh,
so I was thinking

maybe she was
from the 1800s.

I got that she, you know,

obviously had been exposed
to money at some point.

She indicated that she had
lost several children,

that that's why she's always
so depressed and crying.

Um, then she said about
her death that she got sick.

Uh, it -- like,
it came on really quickly.

And she d*ed really quickly
from her illness.

And that she was older
when she d*ed

than what
I was seeing her as,

in her 60s or maybe 70s,
when she d*ed,

and she looked really,
really bad.

You got a woman
who comes from money

who lost a few kids
around the 1800s.

I mean, I might have
something for you here.

Annie Merchant and her husband,
Richard, um,

moved on
to the property in 1881.

Now, both of them
came from money.

In fact, they were
basically given the land

by his parents, his mother.

So they had four kids,
but three of them d*ed.

Wow.

The husband, Richard,
also d*ed young.

I got his obit here.

You can see they really
have no idea how he d*ed.

She lived on the property

all alone for many years.

Um, she finally d*ed
in 1952 at the age of 98.

Whoa.

I was able to track down
a photo of her.

Dang.

Um, in the photo,
she's probably in her 60s.

Okay.

Um, wondering if that might be
who's haunting this place.

Oh, yeah.
That looks like her.

This is the one
that's been touching me.

That scares me that --

that she could cause
a miscarriage for me.

I would be nervous
because I could see her

being jealous
and acting out, lashing out.

I'm about to cry, too.
'Cause that's scary.

That -- that makes me feel
like I don't want to be here.

But I -- I -- I don't want
to leave my family.

I don't want to leave 'em.

Sorry, I'm about to break down.

It's okay.

Yeah,
I completely understand.

I mean, of course, we'd --
we'd hate to lose her.

I mean, we don't want you to go.
But, I mean -- but we --

um, I mean, I --
I -- take care of yourself.

So my concern with her, um,
is that she would jump

to the next level
and start k*lling.

I think
she has that potential.

I'm glad I know
what's going on here now.

Gonna have to protect me
and my baby.

So I got to say that you
two ladies have been very loyal

and dedicated to this museum.

And I hope this town
is grateful for that.

But it's still
just a building.

You know, my concern
is you guys and your baby.

So now we're gonna find out

if it's safe
for you guys to stay here.

For that, I'm gonna
turn it over to Amy.

There's obviously things
that need to be done

to ensure people's safety.

And that goes for staff,
volunteers and visitors.

So what I recommend
doing is a cleansing

by taking a bunch of,
like, old towels or rags

and putting them in,
uh, salt water

and then going and wiping
down the walls,

everything in the room.

And what it does is it
brings in good energy.

It removes any kind
of depression

that's floating around
in the air.

It's, like, really a wonderful,
uh, thing to use.

As far as the two dead
that are issues,

so this Uncle Bob guy
and the woman,

my suggestion
is to bring in a minister

who will go
into both locations

and do a blessing.

During that blessing,

he also needs
to make a statement

directly to these
deceased individuals

that you guys
need to leave.

You are no longer
welcome here.

You need to leave.

Give 'em a week
after he leaves

and does his blessing.
Give 'me a week.

If activity is
still going on,

if they're still
being idiots

and they choose
not to go,

then the minister will
have to come back

and do an exorcism.

How are you feeling about
the whole exorcism thing

if things don't work out?

The alternative
is unthinkable.

I mean, we're not going
to shut our doors.

So we're willing to do
what we need to do.

So, as far as the other dead
go, um, could they stay?

I feel like they can.

Because they're not causing
any problems or anything.

You're upset you can't
be here for while.

Yeah.
I'm very upset.

But it's not a --

a -- a lifetime thing, you know?

You'll be back.

Well, you've definitely
given us insight

on what we've got going on
and given us direction.

And that within itself
is priceless for us.

If Erica follows
my suggestions,

she'll be able
to keep the museum

she loves open
for years to come.

And, more importantly,
she'll be able

to have her friend, Natalie,
by her side.
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