[Amy Allan] She was m*rder*d
and he keeps burying her.
Sometimes, he literally shakes
the entire house.
-Something jerked me.
-Show me. Oh!
I woke up and my body
was completely paralyzed.
This shadow figure
holding this person down
by their shoulders.
-What's going on?
-Uh...
You can tell me.
[Amy] Everything
that's going on here is
about keeping your mouth shut.
He definitely is getting off
on torturing him.
[speaking softly] I'm sorry.
[Amy] All I hear from him is,
"Stay dead. Stay dead."
He wants a person dead.
My name is Amy Allan.
I see dead people.
I saw a winged creature.
I speak to dead people
and they speak to me.
This person feels
like a monster.
But there's only one way
to know if my findings
are real.
They are sucking the life
out of these people.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve DiSchiavi,
a retired New York City
homicide detective.
So how many bodies
are we talking?
And I know every person,
every house, has secrets.
It's my job to reveal them.
But Steve and I never speak.
We never communicate
during an investigation.
Until the very end.
Ooh, you're not
gonna like this.
When we uncover if it's safe
for you to stay...
I'm sorry, I need
to take a break.
...or time to get out.
-It wants inside the house,
because it wants to k*ll you.
-[gasps]
[Steve] I'm up here
in Euclid, Ohio.
It's a suburb just outside
of Cleveland.
I got a desperate call
from a single mother
of three who says
she and her kids
are getting terrorized
by the paranormal.
I feel hopeless as a mother.
And this has been
going on for four years
consistently.
And sometimes it's daily.
It's real and I need help.
But here's the weird thing,
it wasn't her idea
to reach out to us.
She was talked into it
by two of her son's
grade school teachers.
Now, that is
definitely a first.
And I'm hoping Amy and I
can help her out.
[Amy] I'm seeing
this dead girl.
She's in a decomposed,
skeletal shape.
She was m*rder*d.
She wants help.
The male who k*lled her,
he's nearly an animal.
Anytime he comes in,
she runs away.
So there's battles
between these two
dead people here.
[Steve] So, Brooke,
this is a beautiful place
to raise children.
And when we spoke
on the phone,
you sounded pretty frank.
What the hell's going on?
I need help, um, I'm tired.
[Steve] Yeah, huh?
I'll bet you are.
Oh, thank you.
-Sounds like you're
having a tough time.
-[Brooke] Yeah.
Try to stay positive,
good vibes, um, I'm always
smiling, but it hurts.
Okay, so, Brooke,
let's start with some
of the basics.
Who lives
in the home with you?
I have a photo here.
[Steve] Okay.
[Brooke] That's my daughter,
Novee, she's four.
That is my daughter Michaela,
she's and my son Kingston,
he's nine.
Okay, so they all
live here now?
Michaela used to,
um, but she moved out
about two years ago
and she will be moving back in
in a couple months.
I have a granddaughter now.
Ah, okay.
All right, is she happy
about coming home?
No, she's terrified.
Because of what's
going on here.
Yes and she would have
to move down
into the basement.
What about your little one,
as far as experiences.
Is she having any?
Absolutely.
-[Steve] Okay.
-She has probably the most.
I recently started
documenting it
and recording it.
[Brooke speaking]
That just breaks my heart.
[sighs]
Um, so something's
touching her.
This is just one
of the examples of many.
Are you telling me your son's
teachers had suggested
to call us?
Now, that's a first.
Yeah.
Tell me about that.
What happened?
They did bring up
that he is playing and talking
and seeing dead children.
And he did not want
them to tell me.
Okay, Brooke, uh,
obviously there's a lot
going on here,
so just give me a list
of what you guys
are experiencing.
[Brooke] So, we hear
strange things.
We're seeing shadow people.
Things are getting
really violent.
It's affecting my health.
What about your health?
What are we talking about?
I get headaches.
The fatigue is horrible.
Um, sometimes it almost feels
like I'm sedated.
Anxiety.
What do you think is here?
I feel like there's
a spiritual warfare
going on here.
[Amy] The man who k*lled
that dead girl I saw,
tries to be a shadow man.
There's fighting going on
between this dead woman
and this dead guy.
So, all of a sudden,
a living person's having
massive anxiety.
Massive panic, like almost
panic att*cks,
when the fighting is going on.
This person's getting
wicked headaches.
Ah, [bleep], my head.
[exclaims]
He does use headaches
to distract the living
and to get the dead girl
out of the room.
He stops her from talking,
'cause he doesn't want
anybody to know
that he k*lled her.
[bleep]
-[Steve] All right, so,
is this your bedroom?
-[Brooke] Yes.
Tell me about some
of the experiences
you're having.
I'm seeing shadow figures.
-Is it possible you're getting
a shadow from outside?
-[Brooke] No.
Why is that?
I have my curtains all closed
at all times.
Okay, so, what else
is going on?
When I was walking
through my living room,
something grabbed
my purse strap
and jerked me.
Okay, so how hard
were you jerked?
Show me.
-Are you sure?
-Yeah, yeah.
Oh! Okay.
All right. Did anything else
physical happen to you?
Yes. I was att*cked
when I was giving
my daughter, Novee, a bath.
Okay, what happened?
Out of nowhere,
my arms started burning,
like acid was on them.
I actually have a photo
I wanna show you
of the scratches.
Oof.
Those are definitely
scratches.
-This ain't a rash
or anything.
-[Brooke] No.
Why don't you just
get the hell out of here?
-I fought for this house.
-Mmm-hmm.
This is our house.
-It is your house, right?
-Mmm-hmm.
-[Steve] It's not their house.
-Right.
-Okay.
-I'm not gonna give up.
So the dead woman,
that I saw outside,
does come in here often.
I think this person
is a sensitive
and she keeps trying
to talk to this person.
I see her, like,
shaking the bed.
The person's feeling
like the bed's moving,
which is, you know,
freaking her out.
And the dead lady's
getting angry,
because she wants
to get the [bleep]
out of here.
She's touching
the lady's hair,
trying to talk
and then she gets louder
and louder and louder.
So there's a definite
miscommunication here,
between the dead
and the living.
[Steve] So, Michaela,
your mom said
you moved out of here,
because of the activity
that was going on?
[Michaela] Yes,
it was that bad.
I understand that you're
moving back here
with your two-year-old
daughter.
Why is that?
Well, I'm going back to school
to be a nurse and it's gonna
help me financially.
So, the basement, what's--
Why'd you bring me down here?
What's the story?
This is where I'm actually
moving back into.
Okay.
And this is where I felt
a lot of the activity
going on,
but this would be
the only room
for me to go.
Okay, so take me through
the experiences you had
when you were living here.
So, one night, I woke up
in my room and my body
was completely paralyzed.
I had tears coming
down my eyes.
I was crying,
'cause I was so scared.
I couldn't even scream
if I wanted to.
Were you on any kind
of medication
or anything like that?
-No.
-So, nothing. Taking any weed
that might have...
-No.
-Okay, so what else
can you tell me?
I was in my bedroom once
and when I looked
to the doorway,
there was a shadow figure.
Okay, so now,
your mom mentioned
about a shadow figure
that she saw in the hallway.
What'd it look like to you?
It looked like
a smaller person
and I honestly started crying.
-Because I was so scared.
-Right.
Because I just felt
like something bad was
about to happen to me.
It's no wonder you don't wanna
come back here.
I mean, what else is going on?
I'm constantly feeling
watched in this house.
-It's very creepy.
-Okay.
It feels creepy
and one of the reasons it does
is one of the places
-I often felt watched was
when I was in the shower.
-[Steve] Hmm.
And it felt like someone
was in the room staring at me.
[Steve] So, listen, I'm not
trying to pick on you,
but you're moving back here
with a two-year-old.
You think that's
such a good idea?
No, I honestly don't
think it's a good idea,
but, at the same time,
I don't have a choice.
[Steve] Okay. ::. --] ::. align:right line:.%
[Amy] That dude
is a little perv-y
and he does watch
women in the shower.
Don't like that.
Not good.
-He does get really angry
down there.
-[Matt] The basement?
[Amy] Yes. That's his lair.
Sometimes he literally
shakes the entire house.
They hear bangs from him
all the [bleep] time.
He literally goes
crazy down there.
He would not like
anybody down here
living-wise, period.
[Steve] Hey, Kingston,
there you are.
-[Kingston] Yeah.
-[Steve] How are you,
buddy?
[Kingston] I'm good.
-[Steve] What are you doing
out here, are you playing?
-Yeah.
So mom was telling me
you're having some experiences
in the house?
-[Kingston] Yeah.
-Yeah, what's going on?
Uh... Hmm...
You could tell me.
Well...
It's just, I need to find out
what's going on.
-Okay.
-Mom said you have some
friends that you talk to?
That nobody else can see?
Yeah.
So, what can you tell me
about them?
Um, the first one,
he likes to play
Legos with me.
And the second one,
likes to, um, watch
TV with me.
Let's talk
about the third one.
What's his story?
Um...
I, uh... Hmm...
He doesn't really do anything.
Usually, he's, um, outside.
Does he scare you at all?
Um, well, I don't know.
[Steve] What do you hoping
we can do for you?
Well, if I can have
my normal life back,
to being a playful boy,
playing with Legos,
watch TV a lot...
-[Steve] Right.
-...and play with my friends
at daycare.
[Steve] So you wanna
go back to being--
Having a normal life
and not seeing...
-[Kingston] Yeah.
-...people that nobody
else sees, right?
-Yeah, and that's all
I can tell you.
-[Steve] All right.
[Amy] I'm getting
this scared little kid
in this room.
This person is hearing
something coming
down the hallway.
I think it's the k*ller guy,
but he looks different.
And then there's, like,
I think... I wanna say
scratching at the door.
And then the door's opening
and then there's, like,
this black mist.
But, you know,
about this tall?
Kind of rolling into the room.
It was, like, you know,
a very aggressive feeling
is coming from this thing.
Like, I'm gonna [bleep]
take your [bleep] out.
And this person's scared.
At some point too,
this person's being held down.
Like, I see this shadow figure
leaning over and holding
this person down
by their shoulders.
Like, can feel
that something's
right there
and they can't move,
they can't talk.
He seems to enjoy
torturing them.
Oof.
[Steve] After talking
to Kingston, I got the feeling
he's dealing with a lot more
than he's letting on.
So, I reached out
to the teachers who talked
Brooke into calling us in,
to see what he shared
with them.
So, what made you guys
think Kingston had
some issues going on with him?
He just, kind of, talked to me
about things that he was
seeing at home
and, um, that he was
a little nervous
and apprehensive about.
Did he get specific with you?
Yeah, he, um,
told me that there were
three children.
And that two children
interact more with him
than the third.
And that the third is,
um, not as nice.
He got really bad vibes
off of him and that he
was, like, really mean.
He said something
interesting to me.
He says, um,
"Well, if they do leave,
then I can get my life
back to normal."
That, to me, makes me
feel like right now,
it's bothering him a lot.
It's really weighing
heavy on him.
He is struggling.
Ladies, you're convinced
that what's going
on with Kingston's
paranormal-related
and not anything else?
Yes, my family actually
grew up in the area
and we've had
experiences as well.
-He's a good kid
and it's a good family.
-It is a good family.
[Steve] So, I'm curious,
you guys being teachers
and suggesting the paranormal,
were you worried about,
any kind of, backlash,
or anything like that?
No, I wasn't, uh,
after you teach
for over years,
you see a lot
and you experience a lot
and you know your kids.
And Kingston is not one
to make up stories
to scare people.
Okay.
I feel like this person
wasn't being taken seriously
for a while
and has seen
a lot of [bleep].
I think that this person
is actually kind of happy
that we're here.
'Cause I think this person's
very tired and scared.
[Steve] We've done
quite a few cases here
over the years,
so I've made a bunch
of local contacts.
One of them is a genealogist.
She just called me,
saying a couple
of the original owners
of Brooke's property
have a story I definitely
need to know about.
Well, Mary, it's good
to see you again, ::. --] ::. align:right line:.%
I appreciate you
helping me out.
All right, so, what can you
tell me about this family?
All right, well, back in ,
there were two brothers.
-Okay.
-Michael and John Hartman.
And they bought three lots
right here where your
client's property is today.
It's seems that they were
planning to move their mom
on to one of the lots,
because she had been widowed
when they were
very young boys.
Okay, so the kids were looking
to take care of their mother.
[Mary] Yes.
All right, so they seem
like a close-knit family.
Do you know anything else
about them?
Well, they were immigrants
from Transylvania,
which was the Catholic region
of Romania.
All right, so we got
two brothers that owned
my client's property.
Let's start with, uh, Michael.
All right, well Michael
actually would up moving
to Indiana shortly after
they bought the property.
Okay.
And he worked
as a truck driver
for the public library.
But it turned out,
Michael was leading
sort of a double life.
He was running
a bootlegging operation
and a speakeasy
and he was arrested
for that in .
I have a newspaper
article about that.
[Steve] Does he do
any jail time?
Does he plea out?
What happened to this guy?
Presumably, he did
a little bit of time
and he would up
dying in Indiana
in at the age of .
[Amy] There's
something really strange
about this k*ller guy.
He is afraid of Catholicism,
so that's interesting.
I feel like this bad guy
did live here.
Something about mother,
possibly living with her.
Some kind of, like,
government job, like, I mean,
obviously he got benefits.
Definitely mentally ill.
Okay, so we got one brother
who's a bootlegger.
-And d*ed at the age of
in Indiana.
-Mmm-hmm.
Okay, so what about John?
What do we know about him?
Unlike Michael, uh,
John stayed on the property.
Things turned tragic for John
almost immediately.
So, what happens
with this guy?
He had a wife
and she came down
with a severe case
of pneumonia.
She was only years old
when she d*ed in .
[Steve] All right,
so does this guy wind up
remarrying at all?
Yes, he marries,
actually, pretty quickly.
He marries a woman
named Johanna.
Okay, so is there anything
else I should know
about this family?
By , John was
diagnosed with a terrible
kidney disease.
Uh, he suffered with this
for ten years.
All right, so this guy
had a miserable existence
for all this time.
Yes, he did.
He d*ed on your client's
property in ,
at the age of .
[Steve] What about Johanna,
does she stick around?
Johanna stayed on the land
for another years.
She wound up dying
in at age of .
So it's a sad story,
you know...
Comes here as an immigrant,
thoughts of new life,
loses his wife young.
And then, ten years
of suffering from something
like that had to be
incredibly hard for this guy.
Yeah, he suffered a lot.
[Amy] There's a couple.
So, man and wife.
I guess both are deceased.
Uh, they ran upstairs,
so I need to get upstairs.
Okay, I don't know
where they went.
I think they're hiding
in a closet.
I think he d*ed
before she did.
[Steve] I just got a call
from my old friend,
journalist Lou Hebert.
Now, he said
he found something
that may help my case.
He tells me a teenage girl
d*ed in a lake,
less than a mile
from Brooke's house.
At first, everyone
thought it was a drowning.
That is, until it started
to look like a m*rder.
Well, Lou, it's good
to see you again.
Uh, thanks for helping me out
on another case.
So, before we get
to the drowning,
what do we know
about this victim?
Her name was Molly Petelinker.
She was at the time,
she was, uh, born
and raised here in Euclid.
At the time, she was dating
a guy by the name
of John Mckay.
He was seven years
her senior, he was
years of age.
Okay, Lou, so let's
get to the drowning,
what happened?
Well, it happened
on June seventh, .
John and Molly were
right here at Euclid Beach.
They took a rowboat
out into the lake.
A few hours later,
the rowboat comes
back to the beach,
and it's overturned.
Okay, so, I assume
they had a search party?
Yeah, they started
looking for them,
but they didn't find
anything right away.
But about two weeks later,
a fisherman happened upon
a body of a woman.
She was wrapped
in fisherman's line.
And then they determined
it was, in fact, Molly.
-Okay.
-But they never
found John.
And it was presumed
that he had drowned as well.
Here's a picture of her,
an article at the time.
[Steve] All right, so when did
they start to consider this
a m*rder?
Molly's sister gets a letter.
A very strange letter
that's expressing sympathy
and some guilt
over Molly's death.
and interestingly enough,
it's signed
by a fictitious author.
The police decide
to reopen the case now,
and they put out a citywide
search for John Mckay.
Here's an article
on it right there.
[Steve] All right, so did
they ever find this guy?
No, they looked
for about a year
and a half,
and John Mckay
has never been found.
[Steve] It's very strange,
this story.
I'm more on the side
of there's a little
foul play here.
I would tend to agree. It's--
He's probably, um--
-He probably found
a new life somewhere.
-[Steve] Yeah.
[Amy] The k*ller guy
hides his victim down here.
This is where he likes
to keep the lady.
She did not get buried.
He left her outside
and she rotted really quick.
This dude k*lled her,
and he thinks
nobody knew about this,
but here, he like, keeps her,
and he keeps burying her,
and burying her,
and burying her.
All I hear from him is,
"Stay dead. Stay dead.
Stay dead. Stay dead."
He just wants her
to be quiet and disappear...
...because he doesn't
want her telling everybody
anything about
her being m*rder*d,
I think, by him.
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[Steve] So far, I've got
a terrified mother
worried about the safety
of her children
on a property where one
of the first owners suffered
a long and painful death...
...but I wanna see
if there's anything else.
Searching through old records,
I make a horrifying discovery:
There was a deadly
fire at a school
near Brooke's house.
I'm heading over to meet
a local author who wrote
a book about this tragedy.
Now, he says the worst part is
it was completely preventable.
So, Dr. Badal,
I appreciate you helping
me out with this case
and taking the time.
Before we get
to this horrific fire,
what can you tell me
about the school?
Well, the school was
originally constructed
in .
This is what the finished
building looked like.
to children were
distributed among nine
different classrooms.
[Steve] Do me a favor.
Take me through the fire.
What happened?
[Dr. Badal] Well,
it was March , .
-year-old girl, she asked
to go to the lavatory,
and as she walked
down the stairway,
she saw a little wisp of smoke
coming up between the cracks
of one of the steps,
so she called
to the janitor,
whom she saw,
and when he saw the smoke,
he ran into one
of the classrooms
and pulled the fire alarm.
Where did things go wrong?
[Dr. Badal]
Virtually everywhere.
When the janitor opened
the doors at both sides
of the building,
the wind just went like this,
and the entire interior
of the school was wood.
-So, it turned it
into a big chimney.
-[Dr. Badal] So...
It turned it into a chimney,
and there was a second
factor involved.
The interior was Georgia pine,
and the janitor cleaned it
and kept it looking nice
by using oil,
which is an accelerant.
[Steve] Does
the fire department
eventually show up?
[Dr. Badal] Yes.
Okay, so what happened
once they got there?
The pressure
in the hydrants
was low,
and they didn't have ladders
that were big enough to reach
to the second and third floor.
Any fire escapes?
There was one.
In a building that big?
Originally, the builder
wanted to use three,
but the school board
balked at the cost.
Okay. I'm not surprised.
There's actually some footage
that was taken of the fire.
[Steve] Unbelievable.
-These kids
never had a chance.
-[Dr. Badal] No.
[Steve] Now, you told me
how many kids
went to this school.
What was the final
death count?
children were k*lled,
two teachers,
and one would-be rescuer.
The fire was so bad
that of the children
never were identified.
[Steve] So, Jim, when we
spoke on the phone,
you said that this might
have been preventable.
What'd you mean by that?
They determined
that the cause of the fire
was an overheated steam pipe
too close to a wooden joist.
Okay.
It was a design flaw.
Was there an investigation?
Anybody charged?
[Dr. Badal] No.
There was a very
extensive investigation,
but no one was
actually charged.
In fact, here's
an article about it.
[Steve]
"Slaughtered Innocents!"
That's a good title.
So, let me ask you a question.
As far as school fires go,
where does this rank
in our country?
This is the worst school fire
in American history.
[Amy] I saw several
disturbing things on my walk,
but the dead k*ller
burying his female victim
in the basement
concerns me the most.
I saw a grave,
and it had fresh
earth put on top,
and then around it,
it had, uh, little stones.
What I saw of him was
basically the back of him,
and he had, like,
an old-fashioned shovel.
Amy, is this what you saw?
Yes. That's what I saw.
[Steve] Now that Amy
and I have completed
our investigations,
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
and our clients
for the first time.
So, guys, this is Amy.
she's gonna be
doing the reveal
from another room
so she can focus
on the dead and your case
without any distractions.
Amy, this is Brooke
and her daughter, Michaela.
Now, Brooke
is a single mom
who lives here
with her four-year-old
daughter, Novee,
and her nine-year old
son, Kingston.
Now, Michaela used
to live here,
but she had some terrible
experiences and moved out,
but now,
for financial reasons,
she has to move back
in with her two-year-old,
and she doesn't think
it's going to be safe,
and that's why
they called us in.
Unless Amy's got
some questions for you,
she'll tell us about her walk.
[Amy] During my walk,
I encountered four
deceased people.
The first ones
that I wanna talk about
are, uh, an older couple.
I believe that it's
a man and a wife.
I could not really gather
if they had lived here or not.
They were both kind of,
you know, on the heavier side
because of their age, mainly.
They looked to be
in their sixties.
Late sixties,
early seventies,
I think.
I do believe the male d*ed
prior to the female.
All right, it's not
a lot to go on,
but a few things remind me
of a guy who used to own
this property
and lived on it
with two different wives.
His name was John Hartman.
Hartman came here
from Transylvania,
saved up, and bought
the property in .
Now, his time here was brutal.
In , his first wife
d*ed from pneumonia.
She was only years old.
But, he quickly remarried.
His new wife
was named Johanna.
Now, you said the man
d*ed before the woman.
In , John was diagnosed
with a kidney disease.
He suffered
for ten long years,
though in ,
John Hartman d*ed
right here on the property.
He was years old
when he d*ed.
I have his death
certificate here.
Now, after John's death,
Johanna lived here
for another years.
She d*ed in
at a local hospital
and she was years old.
Is it possible that's
the dead couple
you ran into?
[Amy] You know, it's
definitely a possibility.
[Steve] Okay,
what else we got?
[Amy] Now, I'm gonna
discuss the other two
individuals that are here.
One of them is a m*rder*r,
and one of them is his victim.
The victim, the female,
is in a very, uh,
decomposed state.
I saw her in this room
and going upstairs
and to the right.
-[Steve] That's
your room, Brooke?
-[Brooke] Yes.
She's trying to get
help from you,
and the reason why is
because you're a sensitive...
...but you've really
shut that down.
I'm sorry.
-What's going on?
-Like, she said I...
I, like, feel stuff,
but I just shut it down.
I only discuss
that with myself.
I've told nobody
in this world.
Nobody.
Not even you.
She really wants
to tell her story
and to move on.
The m*rder*r, the k*ller guy,
does not want her to talk.
When she tries
to communicate with you,
he gets pissed off
and they fight,
and you're picking up
on it via emotion
and you're getting
panicked and freaked out.
Now, your anxiety is something
that's a real issue.
Tell Amy how that goes.
[Brooke] So, it just hits.
I could just walk into a room
and I feel a sense
of something's not right,
something's bad,
and I go into really
bad anxiety.
It makes sense.
[Steve] Now, you said
this m*rder victim tries
to get Brooke's attention.
What does she do?
I did see her touching,
so, like, caressing
the hair and the face.
She's just trying
to get your attention.
So, um, a week
after we moved in,
I was walking
through the living room
and someone grabbed
my purse strap,
and it took me
back a couple feet.
I asked her
to demonstrate on me,
and I have news
for you, she...
-[Amy] Pretty hard?
-[Steve] Yeah, I mean,
I'm pounds
and she pulled me.
[Amy] Wow.
The other thing is
when you got scratched.
-Mmm.
-[Steve] Tell her
about that.
So, I was giving
my daughter a bath,
and it felt like someone
poured acid on my arms,
and when I
brought my arms out,
there was
huge scratches
going down my arms.
I got a photo
right here to show you.
Could that be this woman
trying to get her attention,
or is that something else?
That's more than likely the...
The k*ller.
-[Steve] Ah.
-[Amy] Yeah.
So, since we're talking
about physical,
I wanna talk about Novee.
You had given me a video
I want to show to Amy.
That would more than likely
be the female.
It makes me very nervous,
and the fact that I'm
bringing my daughter
and I'm seeing this
with my little sister,
it already breaks my heart.
[Steve] As far
as this k*ller goes,
any idea who he might have
been when he was alive?
[Amy] According to him,
this m*rder he was
able to keep secret
when he was alive.
I believe that he might
have lived here.
I'm thinking that he may
have lived with his mother.
He has a deep fear
of Catholicism,
and I got that he may have had
some type of government job,
like a mailman or something.
What you're talking
about makes me think of
the brother of John Hartman
that owned the property.
Now, his name was Michael,
and he and John
bought three lots
Of property here
together back in .
One of the lots was
supposed to be for John,
the other for Michael,
and the third
was supposed to be
for the widowed mother...
-Ah.
-[Steve] ...so she
could live here.
Now, you said this--
The k*ller's afraid
of Catholicism.
As I mentioned, this family
was from Transylvania.
Apparently, it's an extremely
Catholic region of Romania.
But, like you said, Michael
had a government job.
He drove a library truck.
But, as far
as murdering someone?
I got nothing on that.
[Amy] He kept it
a secret in life.
All of the boxes are
coming together with him.
-With the Catholicism
and all that?
-Yeah.
When I went down
into the basement,
he is burying her.
This happens over
and over and over again
because she gets out,
and that's when she's
coming to you and trying
to talk to you,
and then he's gotta get her
and put her back in the grave.
Like, he just wants her gone.
I did have a sketch done
of this situation.
This should be interesting.
[shudders] This is creepy.
Michaela, that's your new
space in the house, isn't it?
Oh, no.
[Michaela] Like, that's
terrible and terrifying.
Like, that's supposedly
happening, like,
where I'm supposed to be
living with my child.
[Amy] And the basement, like,
that's his place.
He doesn't want any
of the living down there.
So, does this k*ller
do anything to interact
with these guys?
I did get that he,
on occasion, will watch
the females,
uh, bathing or showering.
That was the two
spots, actually.
It was the basement
and the shower
where I constantly
felt watched.
I saw that he,
at one point,
got into a rage,
and it literally felt
like the house shook.
Like, it was
like this... [rattling]
[Steve] Brooke, have you
heard anything like that?
[Brooke] Yes.
Very obnoxious banging
for about to minutes.
What? That long?
-Yeah.
-[Amy] Holy smokes!
He is pretty active
in one of the bedrooms,
uh, which is the one
directly across from here.
-[Steve] So, that's
Kingston's room?
-[Brooke] Yes.
[Amy] I did think
it was a boy.
I got that he was, like,
excited for us to be here
because he is tired and scared
of all of these experiences
that he has had,
and he felt like he wasn't
being taken seriously,
and that frustrated him.
Wow, Kingston. I'm a little
blown away by that.
So, Amy, here's
what you need to know.
Kingston was having
problems at school,
um, and he told his teachers
that he was seeing three
different dead children
here at the house.
He told them two were nice
and one not so much.
The reason we're here
is because those teachers
called Brooke
and told her to have us
come in and investigate.
I was upset
because he never told me.
He never opened up,
and when I asked him, he said,
"I wanted to protect you."
Who are these kids
that he might be talking to?
He might be, uh,
perceiving the older couple
as the two friendly children.
Okay.
And, maybe perceiving
the other kid who's bad
is the k*ller.
I interviewed him
and he seems to be holding
back something else.
[stammers] He's not
telling me everything.
Everything that's going
on here is about keeping
your mouth shut.
That's the k*ller's MO.
That's what he's
doing to this woman.
I mean, that's, like,
the whole thing here
is keep your mouth shut,
and I think the k*ller
has targeted him
because he has
medium abilities.
I think the k*ller feels
a thr*at that he could
get him out of here.
He could push him out
and expose his secret.
There was one situation.
it was really dark.
He was hearing footsteps
coming down the hallway...
...and then the doors opening,
and then there's, like,
this black mist
kinda rolling into the room.
The feeling was just
rage and aggression
and very threatening,
so it seems like he
definitely is getting off
on torturing him as well.
This poor kid is
going through hell.
What kind of mother am I
to bring my daughter somewhere
where I know is not safe?
I...
I'm sorry.
[Steve] So, Brooke,
you know why Kingston's
been having all these issues,
and Michaela,
you know why the basement
freaks you out,
so it's time to answer
the big question:
Is there anything you guys
can do about this,
and if so,
what's it gonna take?
Uh, for that answer,
I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
[Amy] What I would
like to see happen
is for a male medium
who is a practicing Catholic,
they'll come here
and they will engage
with the k*ller
and move him on.
Once he is gone,
I feel that the female
will be able to finally
see clearly her way out.
Once that's done,
the older couple will leave.
So, once they
get rid of this--
The k*ller, right?
Michaela can move in, or does
she need to wait a while?
Yeah, no. She can
totally move in, yeah.
He'll be gone,
the lady'll be gone,
everybody'll be gone.
-How do you feel
about that?
-Relief.
[laughs]
It's sorta like... [exhales]
-I'm happy about this.
-[Steve] Me, too.
We are also dealing
with abilities here,
and functioning, and I am
concerned about your health.
It would be really great
if you could see
a Reiki practitioner.
You have a lot of stuff
that needs to get
out of your body,
and then, with Kingston,
we need to create a lot
of safe spaces for him.
So, what I would like
is for him to see
a child therapist,
uh, who's open to this.
I know Kingston was
your number one concern.
The behavior was not him.
I felt like something was--
There's more to it.
But now you know why.
Now I know why.
-But you feel
relieved about that?
-I do.
-I do.
-[Steve] Yeah.
You're gonna do
what she says, right?
Of-- %.
-Are you kidding me?
-Yes.
You look much better.
Yeah.
This is huge for us
and our family.
I appreciate you guys more
than I could ever express.
Seriously.
[Amy] I really hope
Brooke contacts a medium
to remove the k*ller
and the other dead
trapped inside her home.
If she does that and finds
a therapist for Kingston
as well as a Reiki master
for herself,
I believe this family
will find the peace
and happiness they deserve.
We took your advice.
Um, we did everything
that you had put together
for us that would help us,
and it worked.
As you can see now,
my beautiful daughter
is finally moving down
to the basement,
and we have
been renovating it.
Yeah, I couldn't
appreciate you more.
I feel % comfortable
down here,
and it's definitely
because of your guys' help.
-Thank you, guys!
-Thank you!
14x11 - Buried
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"The Dead Files" features two independent investigations into locations that are reported to be haunted. One investigation is performed by a psychic medium, while a former NYPD homicide detective investigates. Each show concludes with a meeting, where they discuss their findings together with the victims.
"The Dead Files" features two independent investigations into locations that are reported to be haunted. One investigation is performed by a psychic medium, while a former NYPD homicide detective investigates. Each show concludes with a meeting, where they discuss their findings together with the victims.