01x13 - Episode 113

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Shark t*nk". Aired: August 9, 2009 – present.*
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Shows entrepreneurs making business presentations to a panel of five venture capitalists (investors in start-ups) called "sharks" on the program, who decide whether to invest in their companies.
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01x13 - Episode 113

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- Tonight,
- hopeful entrepreneurs

-
- who believe

they have the next

big business idea

will enter the shark t*nk

seeking the financial backing

to make their dreams

come true.

It's all about the money,

all of the time.

The sharks

are ready to invest

using their own money,

but only for the right person

with the right idea.

Nate, I want you

to go back to your class

and say "I went on shark t*nk,

they b*at me into a pulp"...

- "And I deserved it.
- I'll never do that again."

But first, the entrepreneurs

must convince a shark

to invest the full amount

they're asking for...

Sorry.

Or they'll walk away

with nothing.

Why should I give you the money?

I promise if you partner with

us, we will not let you down.

- Wow.
- Wow.

And if the sharks hear

a good idea,

they'll fight each other

for a piece of it.

- There's a million guys
- with passion.

Really? you believe that?

Yes, I do. What do

investors want, Robert?

They want their money back.

Who are the sharks?

Kevin O'Leary

is a venture capitalist

- who started a software business
- in his basement,

which he eventually sold

for $3.2 billion.

Barbara corcoran

is a fiery real estate mogul

who turned a $1,000 loan

into an empire

worth hundreds of millions.

- Kevin harrington
- is the king of infomercials.

- His genius marketing
- of products

has amassed

billions of dollars in sales.

Daymond John

turned rags to riches

with his clothing brand fubu,

which has grossed

over $6 billion.

And Robert herjavec,

a technology tycoon

who sold his Internet companies

for over $350 million.

♪ The best things in life

are free ♪

♪ but that ain't really

good enough for me ♪

♪ I need money ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

♪ what I want ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

First into the shark t*nk

is Nate berkopec,

a young entrepreneur

with big aspirations

- for making the world
- a better place.

My name's Nate berkopec.

- I'm 19 years old, originally
- from eagan, Minnesota,

but I'm currently a business

student at New York university.

The goal of my company,

the factionist, is to be

- ethically conscious and make
- the world a better place.

My products target



that care about social issues.

- I think that my generation,
- more than ever,

- wants to just make the world
- a little bit better,

- and I think my company
- is the embodiment of that.

As a business student

at New York university,

- I think I've learned a lot
- about evaluating an idea

- and putting it into action.
- As an entrepreneur,

- it's really easy to do
- your market research

- if you are the market.
- So I really am

- a 19-year-old college student
- that cares about these issues,

and I think that my company

and its products reflect that.

- I know I have the passion,
- the drive, and the vision

to make the factionist

a multimillion-dollar company,

but what I don't have

is the capital.

- That's why I need
- to get in front of the sharks.

♪♪♪

Hi, my name is Nate berkopec,

and my business

is the factionist.

I'm looking

for a $30,000 investment

for a 20% stake

in the business.

I think that today's

young adults, like me,

- are some of
- the most environmentally

and socially aware in years.

Last year we had the highest

youth voter turnout

in over 30 years.

I mean, I couldn't even

sleep the night of last

fall's election

'cause of all the people

just running through

the streets of New York City

shouting "yes, we can!"

Now if we want to

carry through this mindset

into our clothing, we can't.

- Environmentally
- friendly clothing right now

is just bland and expensive.

The factionist is an ethical

- and environmentally friendly
- apparel brand

designed by

and for my generation.

- The factionist is clothing you
- can just feel good about buying,

not only because it looks good,

because you didn't spend

a lot of money,

- and it doesn't hurt
- the environment.

The bottom line is this--

the factionist is not

just another apparel brand.

It's a movement.

It's time for you to invest

in America's future. Thank you.

Wow. you're gonna save

the world?

Yeah, but I'm gonna

make money doing it.

What are your sales today,

Nate?

I've sold $3,000.

I just got started.

It's been six months.

Uh, I've been selling basically

through college friends.

- Are these your products,
- the t-shirts?

Is that the business?

It's t-shirts.

They're organic.

- Uh, the natural colored ones
- here are made in Uganda.

Um, but I want to expand.

But you don't make

the t-shirts.

I don't make the t-shirts.

You simply silk-screen

the logos.

Right. right now

it's silk-screening.

What do you do for a living now?

Right now I'm a student

at New York university.

So... there's

no business today.

You don't make the shirts.

You simply silk-screen

a good saying onto a t-shirt.

And what is so different

about you

than the million other

environmentally friendly

students from New York?

Look, I-i-I'm

a business student first.

So if you're a business

student, you would know

that's it's gonna

be very hard

to take the enthusiasm--

which is admirable...

Thank you.

Everybody wants

to save the world.

Me, too. Love that.

I want to make some money

along the way.

Oh, god.

The t-shirt business is

a brutally competitive business.

- You know that from
- the streets of New York.

Any guy and his dog

can stamp his t-shirt.

Margins are razor-thin.

Disagree.

Our margins are over 50%.

That's irrelevant.

I mean, that's

not even a business yet.

- You haven't even gone
- to private manufacturing.

How are you going to make this

environmentally safe?

You're gonna actually

have to do bamboo, correct?

You're right.

Bamboo--organic bamboo

is one of the best things

on the market right now

for, uh, for--

do you know how

much bamboo costs?

It--it's more expensive

than cotton.

- Nate, your graphics
- are not even unique.

- I-i--even--
- you could even say that.

With the $30,000, I want

to start grabbing artists

from countries,

like, um, Malawi or Uganda,

- and saying "this is designed
- by someone

"who has been

through this kind of thing,

- and this is what it's on--
- this--it's on the t-shirt."

- Nate, there are millions
- of other people with a movement

who have more brand,

more credibility, more p.R.,

more everything.

Look, th--you can

say that. There could be--

- there's a thousand
- other companies out there.

- They have millions of
- more dollars than me.

- What they don't have-- - no, no.
Forget the millions - of dollars.

- Let him speak.
- What they don't have is what?

- But what they don't have
- is the authenticity, okay?

- What? - I mean, young--
- no, young adults--

- we can smell inauthenticity
- from a mile away.

If some big company comes in--

Nathan, have you ever

worked for anybody

in a successful business?

Have you ever--

my--my dad is

an incredible businessman.

He has a garbage company

that makes--

have you ever worked for him?

Yes, I work for him right now.

How come he's not

giving you $30,000?

- He's a good dad. He's not
- just gonna give his son money.

- No, 'cause he's
- a smart investor.

He's a good dad that's not just

gonna give out money to his son.

You see, if I was your dad,

it would be very hard for me

to say, "look, Nathan,

- find something else
- to put this energy into."

But I'm not your dad,

so I'm telling you,

this is a really bad idea.

I'm out.

Nate, how old are you?

- I'm 19.
- Wow.

- Nathan, I'm curious.
- Why don't you have your brand

on your t-shirt?

I think that people look

at this and they say "wow."

It's--it's

a conversation starter.

- People see this and say, "wow. - Where did you get that from?"
- I love it--

- but go to her point.
- How do I find it?

- I see that t-shirt. - I want to buy one.
- Yeah, and--

how do I know who it is?

You go up to the guy, you say,

"hey, is that really true?"

And you're like,

"yeah, I got it from..."

That is the poorest branding

comment I've ever heard,

because you know what--

when you walk by

- in the streets of New York
- and a million people pass you,

- they are not all gonna ask you
- where you found that.

- Nate, if I go talk to somebody
- on the streets of New York,

- they're gonna sh**t me. - Look--but
you guys are - saying that--i mean--

Nathan, you're at $3,000

in sales,

and you have a value

of $150,000 on your business.

You know, on $3,000 in sales,

there's no track record for me

to invest, so I'm--I'm out.

I understand I'm risky,

but it's a long-term investment.

This is

a short-term investment,

- because we will lose - our money immediately.
- I am willing to work.

It's already cash flow

positive. I mean, I don't have--

it's got 3,000 in sales.

Because you're not

paying yourself.

Nate, you're living

in a fantasy world.

- You have an incredible amount
- of passion,

- which is the only reason why
- you're still standing there--

'cause we all admire that.

Once you step over

into the real world,

you have to have real data.

And $3,000 in sales

on a t-shirt that you don't

make, you simply silk-screen,

is ludicrous.

I'm out.

Nate, the--for me,

the numbers don't add up,

so I wish I could say I'm in,

but I'm out.

Nathan, I know a little bit

about t-shirts,

and to have a graphic

that you didn't design,

which is very easy--

I did design all of these.

I'm saying

it's just a typeface.

- You don't make the product
- yourself.

- I'm just very afraid
- that my shirt would say

"I invested and lost 100%

of my money in Nathan."

I'm out.

Nate, I want you to go back

to your class,

to business 101, and say,

"I went on shark t*nk.

"They b*at me into a pulp...

And I deserved it.

I'll never do that again."

- I don't think it's a mistake
- to have confidence in yourself.

- Otherwise
- I'm not gonna get anywhere.

- You know what-- I agree with you - on
that, and that's why - you're still here.

Have you learned anything today?

Absolutely.

What did you learn?

Even though you can have

all this confidence in yourself,

doesn't mean that--you know, you

can't walk in without the sales.

- Wow. he's a lot smarter
- than we gave him credit for.

- Okay. so you know
- what that says?

- It's all about the money,
- all of the time.

- That's what - you've learned today.
- Don't misunderstand that,

because I think Kevin, uh,

is--is...

Absolutely right.

Has been sitting in the 75th

floor of his money tower

for far too long.

You--you--you are going down

the right path.

Oh, really?

- You simply have to build a great
- business. you got the passion.

Don't ever lose that,

because that's infectious.

Thank you, Robert.

And you'll go a long way.

Thank you.

I feel good that I--that I tried

as hard as I could out there.

And I also feel disappointed

that it didn't happen.

That guy was a good kid.

Excellent kid.

He just had nothing.

He had no brand.

He is the perfect example

of why,

when you dump on people,

it's so dangerous.

- It's not dumping on him.
- Let me just finish.

- I'm telling him the truth.
- Robert--

- let me just--this guy may be
- in the wrong vehicle today.

But if he keeps that passion

and he keeps that energy,

he'll find a path.

This was not the right path.

There's a million guys

with passion.

- Really? really? - You believe that?
- Yes, I do.

- I think a lot of businesses
- have failed

- because people don't have
- passion. they have greed.

- What do investors want,
- Robert?

- We're investors here.
- What do they want?

What do they want back? Passion?

Talks about the world?

Saving the planet?

They want their money back.

I'm sorry. Were you talking?

'Cause I wasn't

listening anymore.

- That's what you should be doing. - You made a big mistake.
- Yeah, well...

- I'm Anthony calvert,
- and this in my wife, Tina.

- And together,
- we created the podillow.

I'm a deputy sheriff

for San Diego county.

Two years ago, I was injured

while, uh, assigned

to the sheriff's s.W.A.T. Team.

- It was during
- my recovery period at home

- that I came up with the idea
- for the business.

I thought it was a great idea,

and we decided to invest,

and we've been

working on it ever since.

We found that there is

a huge demand for the product.

But part of the problem

now is we don't

- have the available capital
- to keep up with the demand.

- We really need the sharks
- at this point,

and if we don't

get an investment,

it could mean that it will

be the end of our business,

- the end of the road
- for us.

- Hello, sharks.
- My name is Anthony calvert,

- and this is my wife, Tina.
- We're here today

- to introduce you to our product,
- the podillow.

We're here to ask for

an investment of $250,000

in return for 33% equity

in our company.

The podillow is a facedown

tanning and massage pillow,

and it has

internal storage pockets

to store

high-value personal items

such as your cell phone,

your car keys, or your wallet.

- On somewhat of a side note,
- I'm a 20-year veteran

- of the San Diego county
- sheriff's department.

- And I'm sure you can only
- imagine the razzing I've taken

from developing a product

that looks like this.

Trust me.

- My life would have been a lot
- easier if I was standing here

- telling you about some cool,
- black tactical holster

or the latest, greatest thing

in a prisoner control device.

Whether you're getting

a massage, you're tanning,

- or you're just trying
- to relax at home,

laying on your stomach

is tough to do.

- You keep turning your head
- from side to side

or you try propping your chin up

- on a rolled-up beach towel
- or your fist.

None of these techniques work,

and you usually just give up.

By using the podillow,

there's a hole

in the top of the pillow

that allows you to lay

on your stomach facedown.

- Anthony, did you get hurt
- on the job

- and then have to go
- for a massage,

- and it came to you one day?
- Like, how did you--

you're very close, actually.

Um, I-i had suffered an injury.

I was on my department's

s.w.a.t. team

and I dislocated my shoulder.

- As a result
- of the surgery...

This might be too much

information.

They--they had to shave

half of my chest.

Oh, that is too much.

That is too much.

Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

So I had to finish the job,

and noticed that I was

extremely pale on the chest

and decided to go lay out.

To lay out.

And I went and laid out, and I

just could not get comfortable.

- You would not believe my life
- in the last two years.

- You know, one minute I'm--when I
- was on the s.W.A.T. Team,

- we're planning
- a tactical as*ault on a house.

- An hour later, I'm on the phone
- talking about floral prints,

and daisies,

and what color pink--

have the guys been supportive?

Initially, no. They gave me

a pretty hard time about it.

But almost

every single one of 'em--

- when no one else was around--
- would come to me and say

"hey. how much are you selling

those pillows for?

I told my wife about it,

and she wants one."

So how many have you sold?

We've sold just short

of 6,000 units.

In how--in how long

a period of time?

- We're almost at exactly
- our two-year Mark.

- How much do you
- sell them for?

They retail for $29.95.

And they cost

how much to make?

My cost, um, is around $7.

Do you have any retail

or catalog distribution at all?

Yes, actually, um,

we're in two of the--the largest

mail-order catalogs there is--

uh, Lillian Vernon

and solutions.

- Both have sold out
- of product, and I'm--

and I have purchase orders right

now from them that I can't fill.

So you're saying

right now you have orders

that you cannot fulfill?

That's correct.

How many orders do you have?

- Well, the two biggest ones are
- by Lillian Vernon and solutions.

They made a fairly large

purchase in the springtime.

I told them that

"you're getting all I have,"

and within about

less than a month,

they called back and said

"we want to place another p.O.,"

and I had to tell them "sorry."

Let's bring it back

to numbers for a minute

- because actually, - that's why you're here.
- Okay.

$250,000 for basically

a third of your company

- is what you're asking for, - right?
- That's correct.

So that's $750,000 you think

the whole thing is worth.

You made about $21,000

last year.

You think there's a little...

Dislocation

between what you made and what

you're telling me it's worth?

Sure, I-I'll agree

with that statement.

But my--my--my--

so why would you come here

and--and ask so much for?

Because I believe

that those numbers

are... small

because of our limited ability

and--and resources.

But you want me to pay

as if you already had my money.

You're not letting me

wet my beak on the upside.

I guess it's a matter

of perspective.

Yeah. from this side.

Right.

That's a problem.

How do we fix that?

- I'm not sure.
- I'll be the first one to admit

I'm not a real numbers guy.

Yeah, that's obvious.

You've gotta have

a better answer than,

"gee, that's your opinion"

to Kevin's value proposition.

I-I guess my response is, you

know, the fact that Tina and I--

- I mean, you are looking
- at podillow incorporated--

- we--we--we package things
- in our garage.

- I have absolutely
- no--no marketing budget.

And yet, even given

those limitations,

in the last 2 years,

we've moved 6,000

of these things.

And I think that

with the proper knowledge,

the resources, the know-how,

- I truly believe this product
- could take off.

But, Anthony,

that's potential,

and I appreciate that,

but it's not worth $750,000.

If you went to a venture

capitalist company,

in this economy,

they would pay you a multiple

of what the company earns.

So if your company

earned $21,000,

maybe you're worth

$100,000 today.

So you'd have to sell me



That's the problem.

That's tough math, right?

I see the merits

of the product,

but this dislocation between

what your expectations are

for its value

and what I could pay you for it

is, um, the earth

and the moon.

I see.

That's how far apart.

So for that reason,

I'm out.

Anthony,

in my mass-market world,

we look for things

that can go in 50 states,

and year-round.

To me, it's a beachy

type of a product,

so that means it's gonna

be regional and seasonal.

On that note, I'm out.

Um...

I love the story.

I like the product.

I can make you filthy rich

with this product.

But daymond seems interested

in their product.

I like the product.

I can make you filthy rich

with this product.

But you made a tactical error.

And it's all gonna

come back to valuation.

At 250, I need



I'm very upset at you

for missing the Mark,

'cause you missed it

for me, too.

I'm out.

The idea that you didn't talk

to someone who knew

something about money

- before walking in here
- is a shame.

The money is wack,

so I'm out.

Anthony, uh,

you need a small loan today,

maybe 50,000,

maybe 100,000.

But how do I give you

$250,000

for any amount

of this business?

I can't get there.

I'm sorry. I'm out.

Thank you.

- All right.
- Thank you very much.

Thanks. good luck.

No pillow's

worth $750,000.

That's too bad.

You gotta know

your numbers.

- I think that the sharks
- are very close-minded.

- They are only wanting
- to deal with hard numbers.

They don't want to--

- it seems to me like they're
- unwilling to take a risk.

Just weeks ago, we watched

Kevin harrington and Barbara

- make an offer to cactus Jack
- for his push-up machine,

the body jac,

but there was one big catch.

I'd like the contingency

to be that you try

your new machine out,

you lose 30 pounds.

Cactus, do we have a deal?

I'll take your deal.

Good job.

Let's go make some dough.

- I got news for you guys.
- There's not a chance in hell

he's losing 30 pounds.

I can't wait to show you

my skinny cactus Jack.

Yeah. let's see that.

♪♪♪

We're here at our offices

at the corcoran group

in New York City,

and we are just sitting here

waiting for cactus Jack

to come in.

Cactus doesn't know it,

but I brought a doctor's scale,

and he's gonna have to prove it

that he lost 30 pounds.

When he jumps on that scale,

if he hasn't lost that weight,

the deal is off the table.

- Hey, Jack.
- Hey, cactus. How you doing?

Welcome.

- What did you weigh
- before we got started here?

- 275 pounds...
- Which means...

- So that means
- I gotta be 245 or below.

That's 200.

Should come out here.

Oh. oh. 243!

Wow.

Yeah!

Good job, cactus.

Now let's get down to business.

- Now that we've got the deal
- done with cactus Jack,

I'm ready to produce

the infomercial

that's gonna feature Kiana Tom,

celebrity fitness guru.

Oh!

Aloha!

- Unbelievable.
- Hi, cactus Jack.

We're gonna sell

- millions of body jacs
- on television.

- After being in the fitness - industry for 20 years...
- Yeah?

Trying hundreds of products,

the body jac is genius.

Well, thank you.

I love it.

I'm really excited to be here.

Well, we're excited to have you.

I have a message

for Kevin O'Leary,

who said that cactus

would never lose the weight.

Well, guess what, Kevin.

Eat your heart out.

Look at him now.

- I'm gonna be laughing
- all the way to the bank.

Hello. my name

is Kimberly foley.

My name is Matthew foley.

- We live
- in hawthorne, New Jersey,

and we are the proud owners

and creators of wee can shop.

Wee can shop is

a whimsical town

where children shop

for the ones they love.

Let's go find a gift for dad.

Kids use pint-size

shopping carts

- in search of the perfect gift.
- We're teaching kids

to think of other people

at gift-giving time,

and that's what makes

wee can shop so unique.

- All right, now we're gonna
- gift bag your gifts, okay?

- It is a family business,
- and we have no other

competitors out there. We're

the first and only of its kind.

Opening wee can shop

- has been one of our
- biggest accomplishments.

- We truly believe
- wee can shop can be

the next big retail chain.

- I know the sharks
- are gonna love us.

- They're gonna hopefully give us
- the investment we need

and the business know-how

to take wee can shop

to the next level.

♪♪♪

Hello, sharks.

My name is Kimberly,

- and this is
- my brother Matthew.

We are here today to tell you

- about our family business,
- wee can shop.

- We would like to ask
- for $200,000

in exchange for 30% equity

in our company.

- And now my sister would like
- to tell you our story.

Thank you, Matthew.

"Once upon a time,

"Kimberly and Matthew came up

with a brilliant idea

"to open a gift shop

- "where children shop
- for the ones they love.

"They called this magical store

'wee can shop.'

"upon entering the whimsical

town of wee can shop,

"children use

kid-size shopping carts

"in search of the perfect gifts

"and stroll through

charming storefronts.

"Once children have remembered

everyone on their list,

"and their carts are full,

- "their shopping experience
- is not complete

"until they pay the cashier

"and gift bag and tag

their gifts with love.

"This magical shopping

experience can become a reality

"for millions of children

across America.

- "So with a little help
- from the shark t*nk,

we could all live

happily ever after."

What do you sell in the shop?

As you can see, we have

different storefronts.

Mom's kitchen has everything

for the kitchen and baking.

Sugar & spice bakery

is all pie-shaped candles

and things that you bake with.

Has anybody approached you,

saying, "listen. We don't like

the way you're teaching children

to become consumers

at an early age"?

Is there a mothers against

child credit?

- I cannot tell you
- the overwhelming response.

- They love the experience
- it teaches their children.

In fact, when they come back

time and time again,

now they start saving

their own money. Everyone--

- since the day we opened--
- said, "you should franchise.

- We can see you in every mall.
- Why didn't I think of that?"

- How long have you
- been in business?

About 3 1/2 years.

And how much are you

grossing each year?

Um, every year we've

increased our income 100%.

What was it last year?

We had basically 13,000.

We did have--

oh.

Kimberly, I admire

anybody who's passionate

about what they do.

But if you can't make

enough money from the store

to earn a living,

what makes you think that you

could sell this as a franchise

to somebody else?

Well, when we started out



- we did--we found a retail space
- we could afford.

Um, and we do think that

in a prime retail location,

it could do

nothing but flourish.

So opening a second location

would give us the experience--

wait a minute.

The first location

isn't making money yet.

So how long

are you going to let this run

before it makes a profit?

Going into this,

we didn't have any retail

or business experience,

and doing a lot of research,

we'd always been told--

about three to five years--

- it's gonna be tough,
- and you're going to struggle.

- Okay, you're in year four
- coming up now, right?

Correct. so it is something

we do think about.

- How much money have you put in
- from the beginning?

Um, about 120,000.

Where did you

get that money from?

Um, help from family.

Friends, family, small loans.

What is your history,

and--and why do I believe

- there's a passion
- you have in this?

- My mom and my sister
- are both teachers.

I adore children.

And I haven't found a...

Sorry.

Why are you crying,

Kimberly?

I'm not sure,

'cause I am passionate about it.

I haven't found a job

that I've wanted to do

since the day this opened.

I truly enjoy

the shoppers coming in.

I have a great time with them.

And I think it can succeed.

Kimberly, look,

I get the--the passion piece,

but you know what

I'd be crying about?

The fact you're

not making a profit.

I know. I-i don't like

to think that way

because I really

believe it can. Um...

Kimberly, I'm gonna

assume 50% gross margins.

You need to do 200,000

in this store to break even,

to pay yourself

and your brother

a salary.

- More, Kevin. They need
- to do far more than that.

- At least. I'm saying if you
- just took out 30,000 each.

It's a huge issue.

- From an investment
- point of view,

it has no merit...

Because you haven't proven--

before you build

a second store--

the first one makes money.

- I love kids, but they're
- the hardest things to sell to

- 'cause they don't have
- their own credit cards.

Once we get the parents

in the store,

- they're happy to let
- their children spend money,

and then they're picking up

things, as well.

There's nothing more evil

than a business

that doesn't create a profit.

- And the only way to fight evil
- is with evil.

You have to shut it down.

I'm sorry.

It's the truth.

- And for that reason,
- I'm out.

You still leave,

at the end of a year,

with $13,000, no salary.

You owe your relatives money.

I just feel like this

is a hobby that you love.

But by no means

is it a business.

I am definitely, uh, out.

Kevin, I-i disagree

that she should

shut the business down.

I think you've grown

the business, correct?

- 100% every year.
- Yes.

- So take--take the next year.
- Don't go franchise the business.

- I'd bring my son there to shop,
- and he'd probably love it,

but as an investment, it--it

wouldn't be for me, so I'm out.

Shame on you

for encouraging her.

Well, at this point,

you're failing.

But failure, to me,

is just an opportunity

to begin again more wisely.

I regret to say it--

I'm out.

It's an admirable idea.

But part of what Kevin

says is--is right.

All of what he says

is right. 100%.

But...

No, 122%.

It's hard to call something

geared to children "evil." Uh--

the business is evil.

But, really,

there isn't any data

that supports expanding

this business today.

I'm out.

Kimberly, I'm your

only friend up here.

- I'm the only one
- telling you the truth.

All this encouragement

for you to go on is folly.

It's a huge mistake.

Somebody's gotta tell you that.

It's not gonna be your family.

It's not gonna be

these people cheering you on.

It's me.

I don't think I-i don't

think we're cheering her on.

I think that--

I don't care, Robert.

It makes no money.

I think the only mistake

that Kimberly's making

is that the data is telling her

to perhaps change direction.

Is that another way of saying,

"shut it down?"

At the very least,

go home tonight,

write on a piece of paper

- the date that you
- have to be profitable,

and be honest with yourself.

You have got to

put a timeline on this

- because it's your family's
- money you're burning,

and that I find evil.

I appreciate

all of your, um, opinions,

and we appreciate your time.

Good luck.

I mean, she was

really passionate.

You know, that is an anchor

on her life. It's a tragedy.

Give her one more year.

Why?

- She made $13,000.
- That was her salary.

You can't live off that.

Well, maybe you can't.

She can't either. She's living

off her family's money.

The business wants to die.

Say that to

that innocent little girl

standing there looking at you.

That kid has no credit card.

That's the problem.

Seeing a family's money

being burnt,

and nobody dealing

with the truth...

- Even you guys were offering her - encouragement.
- Not true. Not true.

- It's terrible.
- I don't think so.

- I don't think anybody here
- gave her false encouragement.

- You know, I will be able
- to sleep tonight,

- and you will all
- toss and turn.

- I think you need passion
- to succeed.

There is no shortage

of passion in me

or anyone involved

in wee can shop.

So I think,

you know, our future is great,

and, um...

We're gonna be okay.

♪♪♪

I'm Tim stansbury, and this is

my business partner Erin whalen.

Erin and I are both

recreational cyclists.

- We met several years ago
- through a training group,

- and we've been close friends
- ever since.

A lot of our rides

are over 100 miles,

- and many times you need to make
- on-the-road repairs

in the middle of nowhere.

It was on one of these



when I got a flat tire.

- Tim came over
- and he helped me fix it,

and once we got going again, we

talked about having a solution

that would make on-the-road

fix-it problems a lot easier.

After doing a lot of research,

- we've come up with
- the perfect product and found

a really fun way

to market it.

Got your order for ya.

All right!

Been waitin' on this.

Cool.

- What's great about our product
- is, it's not just for cyclists.

There are so many other

everyday uses for it.

I think the sharks

are gonna love us.

- Everyone that we've ever talked
- to really likes the product.

- We just have to get it
- in front of them.

♪♪♪

Hi. I'm Tim,

and this is Erin.

- And we're with
- grease monkey wipes.

And for $40,000,

- we're willing to give you
- 40% of our company.

Have you ever found yourself

completely covered

in grease or grime

with no easy way to clean up?

For me, it happened

on a 100-mile bike ride.

I got a flat tire,

and after changing it,

my hands were covered in grease.

I tried to get the grease off

in the grass and on my shorts,

but nothing seemed to work.

It was then that Tim and I

decided it would be great

if there was a portable

cleaning product

that would easily remove

grease, grime, and dirt.

So we created

grease monkey wipes.

I'd like to pass 'em out

for you guys.

- Thanks, Erin.
- Sure.

- Thank you.
- Can I open it?

Absolutely.

Thank you.

- Grease monkey wipes
- are individually packaged

degreasing cleaning wipes

that utilize a natural,

nontoxic, citrus-based cleaner

to handle

heavy-duty cleaning.

Our wipes aren't any ordinary

antibacterial wipe,

as they're designed to clean

the heaviest messes

of grease and grime.

Take this nasty, disgustingly

greasy car engine part.

- Now if I was cleaning this
- with a normal wet wipe,

it just wouldn't work.

This is a normal wet wipe.

Nasty.

It's pretty gross.

- But a grease monkey wipe
- would clean her up.

What is the ingredient

that's breaking down oil?

Uh, citrus oils.

- When they squeeze the oranges
- for orange juice,

uh, the leftover oils are used

as a cleaning agent.

Tim, how did you

figure that out?

- Uh, we did a lot
- of product testing

prior to the product launch

and came upon one

that we knew was natural,

- and would be safe
- for the environment,

and wasn't harsh chemicals.

Not only can it

clean the grease,

but it can also clean permanent

marker, paint, and crayon.

So grease monkey wipes

are perfect

for that mom whose kid

is always getting into a mess.

Erin, can you hold your hand up?

I wanna see how clean--

yeah. absolutely.

- So I can smell the orange oil - from here.
- Correct.

It smells good.

It's quite concentrated,

isn't it?

- Yes.
- Yep.

If it's--if it's

a common, um, commodity,

a derivative

of making orange juice,

couldn't I make uncle Kevin's

cleany uppy wipeys?

Like what stops me

from doing this?

Well, first of all,

the portable nature

of the product is really

our unique, um,

selling point.

- Is that patented?
- No, it is not patented.

- Is there any patent here?
- No.

We decided not to patent it

really for two reasons.

One, we're

a brand-new company,

- uh, so we didn't really have
- the resources to patent it.

- And second,
- once you patent a product,

you have to put, um, basically

your formulas out there.

So it kind of protects us

and, you know,

gives us some lead time, um,

- to get some market share
- and get in the public mind view

before someone could copy us.

Don't these exist pretty much

- in a lot of
- different categories already?

The other stuff is very

industrial-chemical heavy.

Right.

- Yeah, that's one of
- our greatest differentiator--

is the citrus formula,

the citrus smell,

no harsh chemicals,

- and the fact you can buy
- one or two at a time,

- throw it in
- your glove compartment.

I like the color combination

you have there.

But is there any trademark?

Our logo is trademarked.

It's the best logo

I've ever seen.

Thank you.

I love the biking shirt.

Thanks for saying that.

- Actually, we get a good response
- from kids, too.

All this wonderful logo stuff

has translated

into what in sales?

- We've only had the product
- on the market for a few months,

and we have sold 7,600

grease monkey wipes.

And how--what--

in dollars, what is that?

- Uh, our gross revenue is--
- has been $7,400.

It's $1 a package?

Yes.

Do you really think

that's sustainable?

We--actually, we do.

I mean, there's 285 million

registered cars in the U.S.,



and over 6 million motorcycles.

So that exponentially

grows our marketplace.

Frankly, we've had

a lot of luck so far

- in little niche markets--
- for instance, cycling.

We have a 75% success rate

of stores that we pitch

this product to.

- So-- - and then they reorder
- again and again...

- Yes.
- Or it's too young to tell?

- Um--
- we've had approximately 40%

- of the shops
- we've sold into reorder,

- but a lot of them
- are really new

- and have just received
- their initial order,

- so they haven't
- b*rned through it.

And since we are new, we don't

have the huge name recognition

to really drive, uh,

that part of the sales.

Guys,

great presentation.

I love the branding.

I love you guys.

It's just not

a business for me.

I'm out.

Tim, I feel I'm being

fooled a little bit,

not intentionally so,

by the look you have going on.

- You look like a grease monkey--
- you know, the beard,

- the whole look--
- but I feel like your,

- uh, presentation's
- pretty buttoned-up.

- Do you have
- a business background?

Yes. I have an m.B.A.

In marketing and--

I won't hold that against you.

Okay, thank you.

I appreciate that.

Before doing this

full-time, uh,

- I've been in product management
- and product marketing,

so I do have

a solid business background,

but I'm more passionate about

- this area, and cycling,
- and things of that nature.

And it just seems to,

you know, balance out

- and work perfectly together.
- He's the real deal.

My problem with this

is the, uh, lack of

proprietary content.

Um, the--the only thing

that's unique,

and I think, Mr. m.B.A.,

you know this,

is that, um, your logo...

Is your logo--

is your logo,

and it's proprietary.

Nobody can take that away.

But everything else

could be knocked off.

I-I love the whole story.

I mean, it's terrific.

- But it doesn't have one of
- the most important attributes

that I look for

in an investment,

and that's proprietary content,

so for that reason, I'm out.

I look for something

that's very, very unique,

- and that has
- a unique selling proposition.

I just don't see this being

unique enough in the market,

so I'm out.

Okay. thank you.

I think you're, uh, did

a great job PR-presenting today.

Great logo.

I think your product's

a clever little devil.

Um... but I don't think I've

ever gotten my hands dirty...

And that's in the way of me

warming up to this thing.

So I'm going to... be out.

Well, thanks, Barbara.

Thank you. Appreciate it.

Well, Robert?

Robert is Tim and Erin's

last chance to make a deal.

Well, Robert?

These can be, uh,

in every glove compartment

all over the country,

all over the world.

- Well, just in my cars alone, - we could do--
- yeah.

He owns motorcycles,

boats, cars.

- This is your ticket. - Oh, stop it, Barbara.
- You're embarrassing me.

And the exotic

cars you have,

they don't have

a lot of extra space.

- So one of these small,
- little things would be perfect.

That's true. I...

- Erin, I really don't know.
- I just don't know.

I just don't... i-i...

You--you--

you did such a great job,

- and you answered
- all the questions.

- And, Tim,
- you're the real deal.

I just look at the, uh--

I can tell you, Robert,

Tim and I,

we work great together.

- I have my bachelor's - in business.
- Tim has his m.B.A.

We are very, very passionate

about this.

Absolutely.

We want to create

a global wipe empire

and we want this monkey

to be seen all over the place.

Love the monkey.

I promise,

if you partner with us,

we will not let you down.

Wow.

Wow.

I-I just--I'm--

I promise you, Robert.

- We will make this work.
- I promise.

Look at that face, Rob.

Come on.

Erin, one sentence--

why should I give you the money?

I promise you, Robert,

I will not let you down.

I will make grease monkey wipes

be a national,

fantastic, successful brand,

and a successful company.

And I'll even make it

an international brand.

So all those figures

were just U.S., too.

So extrapolate that

across the world,

and that would easily

get your money back.

I promise,

this is gonna be fantastic.

It already is fantastic.

Whether you're on board, that's

the--that's the question.

I'm on board.

Wow.

- Excellent.
- Thank you.

- I was just
- gonna jump back in.

I love this girl so much.

What do you say

I do it 50/50 with you?

Welcome on board.

Terrific.

Erin and Tim, you got

your 40,000 for 40%.

- Sounds excellent.
- Do we have a deal?

- We have a deal.
- Absolutely.

- All right.
- You can come in.

- Okay, you got two of us,
- 'cause I was regretting it.

Wow.

Thank you so much.

We won't let you down.

Promise.

Thank you. Good job.

- Thanks again.
- Wow.

- Great salespeople. - Appreciate it.
- Thank you very much.

- Thank you - so much, Barbara.
- Both of you, fabulous.

- Bye. thank you, guys.
- Thank you very much.

Great job.

You rocked it in there, Erin.

Great job.

- Wow. that was--
- wow.

- That was one good salesman.
- Wow.

- I was thinking - about getting in also.
- Oh, my god.

That's how good they were.

I gotta tell you.

She just kept--

- coming back and coming back. - That's how good they--
- you couldn't say no.

- It's not all about the money.
- You got a little heart - on that one.

You betcha. A huge heart.

She was great.

We're going to make this

a national brand.

- We're gonna make it
- an international brand.

It is going to be

on store shelves everywhere.

♪ The best things in life

are free ♪

♪ but that ain't really

good enough for me ♪

♪ I need money ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

♪ what I want ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪
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