03x03 - Time to Dig

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Follows brothers Marty and Rick as they search for the infamous treasure on Oak Island.
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03x03 - Time to Dig

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Tonight on the curse of Oak Island

I don't move some dirt wreck

machine right there it's time to dig and

you told me if you know where 30 rods to

their lands right on that line x marks

your spot that right there

I claim this spot

we're digging on Oak Island

we can see something wait what's that

there is an island in the North Atlantic

where people have been looking for an

incredible treasure for more than 200

years so far they have found bits of

gold chain a stone slab with strange

symbols carved into it even a 17th

century Spanish coin to date six men

have died trying to solve the mystery

and according to legend one more will

have to die before the treasure can be

it is another day in the quest to find

treasure on Oak Island

here we me beat all this stuff and it's

on this day that Rick and Marty lagina

along with their partners have traveled

almost 60 miles from Oak Island to

Halifax in search of large-scale digging

equipment everybody decide what they

want to collect that little cat there

Rick

one of each sounds good

hello hi Scott Ferguson Scott my Carl oh

hey nice to meet you

so you guys are here looking for some

equipment yes sir

hopefully yeah we got all excited

driving in here you know I mean good

it's like that's like pornography for us

out there yeah it's just a great place

to be we're eager to see those big

yelling machines

feeling a little kid in a candy store we

will be yeah well we'll take you out

back and we can go on a little bit of a

shopping spree let you guys see

something okay see some equipment I'll

do it

when we saw that equipment I think there

were smiles on all our faces and yeah

love to being new after spending 50

years of dreaming decades of researching

and the past two years actively

identifying likely targets the Oak

Island team is now ready to dig and dig

deeper than ever before so here's one

machine we're looking at right here wow

that looks like plenty of machine my

brother needs to step up to the plate on

that I can work this thing

Marty had all your remote monitoring

these are the tracks right that's that's

the controllers yeah and then a joystick

control bucket curl on either side right

and boom lift on the right so this is

the boom down that'll be your curl okay

I've got this we'll take it no this is

fabulous this will do everything we need

to do and probably more about can't wait

to get it to the island and we're gonna

use the big excavator to dig what do we

want to dig this one here with the

backhoe we can do with more fine-tuned

digging where we might need to do that

that looks comfy okay

this is mine and then with the bulldozer

Rick is a good bulldozer operator

I don't move some dirt wreck Wow and we

can use that to scrape off or level or

whatever we need to get into any sites

for future drilling yeah which is our

little brother here the d4k these are

beautiful machines yeah they're one you

boys get up there take a look see eight

there you go

what I think Peter grandpa Ted loved

running a bulldozer yeah he was never

happier than when he was driving a

bulldozer what give me started as Rick

and Marty's youngest nephew Peter

Fornetti has been steeped in the various

legends and theories about Oak Island

ever since he can remember he's wanted

to considered by his family to be the

one who most closely shears uncle Rick's

passion for solving the 220 year old

mystery okay so what do you guys think

well here's the deal I've got strong

opinions on the excavator backhoe side

and he's kind of mr. dozer man so okay I

think we'll take that big excavator the

backhoe and that big dozer excellent

okay yeah write it up deal we start

moving some dirt around yeah

okay

okay Big Brother let's have a little fun

as they await the delivery of the heavy

digging equipment Rick and Marty lagina

along with Craig tester stepson Jack

Begley meet at the most infamous

location on Oak Island the money pit hey

Jack hey Marty hey Rick all right what

we're gonna do we're gonna look for the

x marks the spot from Robert Marcos

let's go all right

hey Robert good morning Gloria I'm Marty

Marty pleasure yeah pleasure to finally

have a seat while back home in Traverse

City Michigan Marty lagina and business

partner Alan Koh Strava arranged to meet

with Oak Island theorists Robert Markus

I want you to knock our socks off okay

because my brother Alan Craig and I we

really want to accomplish something this

year it's time to dig and you told me

you're gonna convince me that you know

we're yes sir

all right go for it based on his years

of studying books maps and historical

records his Marcus's belief that the

lost treasures of King Solomon's Temple

including the Ark of the Covenant were

buried on Oak Island hundreds of years

ago by the Knights Templar

but while that in itself is not a new

theory

what makes Marcus's findings unique is

that he believes the treasure lies

buried not at the bottom of the money

pit or the Oak Island swamp but at a

very different location you know the

history of Oak Island one of the

characters is Gilbert Hedden yeah

the thing about Gilbert which I really

found interesting is he actually had

something physical to look at and it was

a math and it was Matt based out of a

book written by Harold's Wilkins back in

1935 and it was called Captain Kidd and

his skeleton island in 1937

industrialist politician and Oak Island

treasure hunter Gilbert Hedden believed

he had made a critical breakthrough when

he saw a startling treasure map in the

fictionalized account of real-life 17th

century privateer Captain William Kidd

this is the map that was in the book but

as you can see one of the things that's

strange is the reference to North okay

North is upside down

the text and everything is right side up

but North is upside down and that's not

the way we're taught to read a map the

other thing is with the shape of the

island itself this little Peninsula land

that comes off the elephant's nose the

elephant's nose if you look at your Oak

Island

there's your elephant's nose right there

right and North is up so this would be

like that if you're looking at now all

the text is upside down right and North

is up

Gilbert Hatton was fascinated by the

multiple similarities between the map

and Oak Island such as the strange

oblong shape stone markers a swamp and

of course a treasure site indicated near

the exact spot where the money pit was

located

excited by his findings Hedden traveled

to England to meet with the author of

the book

Harold Wilkins but Wilkins insisted that

the map was nothing more than a figment

of his imagination disappointed and

desperately short of money Hedden

returned home and soon after abandoned

his search for the treasure when he was

first confronted on this mr. Wilkins

said this is a rendition he had seen

this map somewhere before so the

question is what did he see

I myself personally believe this map was

actually created by the Zeno brothers

and Henry Sinclair

I believe this map was actually created

by the Zeno brothers and Henry Sinclair

Oak Island theorists Robert Marcus has

just informed Marty lagina about the

existence of a treasure map that was

reprinted in a book about Captain Kidd

back in the 1930s

although the identity and location of

the island in the book is unknown when

turned upside down it bears striking

similarities to Oak Island similarities

which according to Robert Marcus are no

coincidence it is his belief that the

map was based upon one drawn by the 14th

century Scottish Explorer Henry Sinclair

along with his companions the Zeno

brothers

I know a little bit about this story

they're Italian navigators right yes for

centuries there have been many who

believe that the Zeno brothers along

with Sinclair traveling under the

pseudonym seach Meany sailed as far west

as Nova Scotia and as early as 1398

nearly 100 years before Columbus

according to legend once there

they hid a vast religious treasure

possibly the Ark of the Covenant and the

golden menorah from the temple of King

Solomon to ensure they would one day be

able to find it again

they created a map which was coated with

a numeric key featuring the numbers 7 by

8 by 4 I believe mr. Wilkins

misinterpreted the 7

there should be one by it by for workers

and that is based on a stone that was

found in Massachusetts this is called

the boat stone located in Westford

Massachusetts the so called boat stone

has left researchers and historians

baffled since its discovery in 1932 it

is a round 2 foot in diameter stone on

which can be found what are believed to

be 14th century carvings of an ancient

sailing vessel an arrow and the numbers

one eight four

could this map really be an important

link between the boat stone and the 14th

century Scottish nobleman Henry Sinclair

this is the starting point okay the boat

represents a coastal range followed the

coast in the number a hundred and eighty

for the unit of measure back then was

called a league now one hundred eighty

four leagues north takes you to Overton

Nova Scotia when you get to there you

find the stone within the stone right

here you have a depiction of the circle

with the Templars cross in it I believe

the Templars have carved this now

looking in the directions you have a

northeast quadrant from that stone to

travel north east takes you to the south

end of Mahone Bay and at that you find

this right here this giant boulder and

if you're looking at this stone that's

my home Bay

okay yeah so you're looking at my home

base I mean something's great here what

happened you have an island to look for

out of 300 Islands find the one that's

shaped like the one that was in the book

the one with the elephants from here you

come across Oak Island

what's the next thing you do the next

thing down from 1 by 8 by 4 which is

actually from one body by 4 the first

thing you do is behind the tree the

first tree that the beginners boys found

in 1795 the tree that was so obvious in

1795 after seen strange lights coming

from Oak Island

the teenager Daniel McGinnis along with

two companions went to investigate

what they found was an unusual circular

impression in the ground under the

branch of an old oak tree believing the

impression to be evidence of something

buried below the boys began to dig

deeper and deeper until that came upon

wooden planks and stones at 10-foot

intervals over the next few years they

found bits of gold chain coconut fiber

and even a large stone slab edged with

strange markings until the hole became

flooded with seawater and the legend of

the Oak Island money pit was born

looking at this right here you have the

money pit where the tree was yeah now if

you do what it says 14 north and go

opposite you go 14 radsolv the next

thing you have to do is you have to go

30 rods and it says south west you have

to go with north east

thirty rods to their lands right on that

line x marks your spot let me ask you

something if I said to you right now

you can have five million dollars or

I'll give you enough money to dig you

can have what's here what would you do I

dig okay well I like that answer

interesting thing about Robert Marcus is

that a lot of people come and have this

theory in that theory but he is willing

to put an X on the map right here 40

feet down why not dig the x marks the

spot before Marcus is it is who knows

what we might find I had Jack look for

the spot via GPS Jack did it the modern

way you and I are gonna do it the

old-fashioned way and we're gonna see if

we end up at the same spot as now no

problem this is gonna be like an

old-fashioned treasure hunt we have an x

marks the spot employment this is an old

fish you know what you are so right on

that okay let's find out though the

exact location of the original money pit

has been lost since the 1860s due to

repeated excavations

Rick Marty and the team believe they may

have rediscovered it last year

definitely when they drilled into what

could be a treasure vault first reported

in 1897 that's what they found at the

top of the wall okay so we want to go

339 feet due east from that point and

remember that we're already fourteen

feet north okay yep okay what's the

measurement 200 something right we got

to get our easterlies but don't worry

about the measurement we're gonna find

the spot using Marcus's coordinates it

basically just gives an easterly and a

northerly bearing and to this X but

first we have to find it

yeah that steak has to go to the north

you know that way

Yeah right there just have this edge

line up with that steak over there and

slide it all the way that way does that

look about right yeah in the U P we do

what we have to do in order to

accomplish the task at hand and that's

what we did we use a 2 by 6 and we use

the measuring tape I mean it doesn't get

more basic than that that's you per

engineering it surely is you per

ingenuity that it right there

so we found we believe with a reasonable

degree of accuracy where Robert Marcus

would like us to dig I claim this spot

plus there it is x marks the spot

according to mr. Marcus it's worth a dig

let's dig it it'll be farming yeah

tomorrow we dig

Oh red truck coming where comes a truck

yeah that looks like capability right

there

finally after years of research

experimentation and planning it is time

to start digging that looks good I like

the looks of that

and to find out once and for all if any

of the myths and legends about a

mysterious buried treasure are true to

see that stuff come across the causeway

it's like bringing in the tanks when

you're an infantryman you know you know

yeah we could use that

that's a nice machine

pretty good-sized excavator I'm thinking

of digging right in the middle of your

house dad I've heard there's treasure

under there

like again welcome to Oak Island thank

you Oak Island thanks Lawrence to be

here did you feel anything when you came

across this did you get it kind of a you

kind of a jitter he did a little little

scary feeling okay well a lot of history

here's the guy I want to meet ya mr.

Blankenship Mike Carlo dan Blankenship

pleasure to meet you sir

you have a lot of history here okay

that's for sure today represents a

momentous day for dan Blankenship at 92

he has spent more time searching for

treasure on Oak Island than anyone else

in its history more than half his life

in fact say this equipment was being

offloaded 40 years ago what would you

have done with it they did

and when Dan was out there watching that

equipment mentioned something you know

Jesus I wish I'd have had those types of

resources when I was doing my work so

it's a big that's a big boon to our

efforts

but now seeing the big digging equipment

represents a milestone that he has been

dreaming up for more than 40 years

because today his determination to find

treasure on the island seems closer than

ever to becoming a reality

let's try give one little fold there and

the way you go

I'm very excited about actually two-week

something I mean we've been frogging

around out here with cameras and

electronics and resistivity and stuff I

mean at some point you have to dig I'm

ready to dig

I want to see the mystery salt what I

like the lagina name associated with the

Oak Island story yet for my father

we asked dad if there's treasure on Oak

Island what should we do and he didn't

hesitate a moment he said do good with

it but as excited as Rick Marty and the

other members of the Oak Island team

feel they are also aware that the

islands long history offers as many

sobering realities as it does

opportunities for success last time

really enormous equipment came across

that causeway there was quite an

excavation that went on out here we have

to be careful to not repeat Robert

dunfield's issues and even had good

intent but use big equipment and we want

to make sure we do this smart

in 1965 just a few weeks after a tragic

accident that claimed the lives of

Robert rest on his son Bobby and two of

their co-workers california geologist

Robert Dunfield took over all treasure

hunting operations on Oak Island after

constructing the causeway which linked

the island to the mainland he brought in

a massive 70 ton digging crane along

with other large-scale digging and

drilling equipment but even after months

of extensive excavations Dunfield

failed to uncover any evidence of

treasure instead he left much of Oak

Island permanently scarred and many of

its important stone markers and

landmarks obliterated it is a legacy

that Marty and Rick are determined not

to repeat I know we're all eager to dig

dig dig but it's getting late I say we

call it a day

round I've grown time for David last

wine time for me tomorrow we hit it okay

let's go right

it
is the start of a new day on Oak

Island

but in spite of the eerie gloom that has

enveloped the landscape

Rick Marty and Jack Begley are

determined to see if Robert Marcus's

incredible theory will figure this out

about a centuries-old map and a

mysterious three number code could

really pinpoint the exact location of a

treasure that men have been looking for

and dying for for over 200 years okay

we found where Robert Marcus would like

us to dig so we're going to dig as deep

as we can with that big excavator we

have it's time to dig while Marty

operates the 40-ton excavator which is

capable of digging up to two yards of

Earth per bucket his brother Rick will

stand ready with the bulldozer just in

case they need to level off the ground

in my mind what we spend out here in

terms of time and money has to do with

risk reward ratio

the reward is huge if any of these

theories are correct

righty-right treasure baby treasure

fine

following up on Robert Marcus's

incredible theory that a 14th century

map created by Henry Sinclair provided

dimeric clues as to the exact location

of the Oak Island treasure

Rick and Marty lagina along with Jack

Begley have started to do

we're digging on Oh God Matt x marks the

spot

it's exciting what how can it not be

excited

now if we hit something of a historical

nature that'd be great

but look nobody is hoping for the

treasure more than I am

that is hard digging

let's see what I got here that is hard

hard hard digging look see you can

always tell see the teeth mark in the

sides

imagine digging that by hand I can't

imagine it makes me understand why the

rest dolls were happy just to get 2

inches a day it is fun to actually dig

on Oak Island it is fun to have that big

piece of equipment and dig why don't I

just keep digging I'll try I keep trying

to dig deeper until I can't dig deep and

yes each bucket that you bring up might

have something in it I mean I was hoping

every time as we got deeper something

would pop out of there

is that Iraq

that's just a rock right sure

it's a piece of one Cimber a wood timber


at the exact spot where theorist Robert

Markus told Marty a treasure vault lies

buried could it be that Rick Marty and

Jack have found the entrance to an

underground vault or treasure tunnel or

could it simply be cribbing the wooden

posts and boards used by miners and

treasure hunters to reinforce deep

tunnels and keep them from caving in

really

doesn't smell bad

although the strange piece of wood may

have turned out to be a false alarm one

supposedly dead end could lead to a

crucial piece of evidence being found

I think I see something no way what is

it hey Rick

is this blue clay

blue clay although the presence of blue

clay appears disconnected from Rick and

Marty search for an underground treasure

vault the existence of layers of blue

clay was first reported on the island by

searchers digging in the money pit in

1803 it has also been a long-held belief

by gold miners that the presence of blue

clay is a sign that gold or silver could

very well be present underground

take a few more

that's why that blue flag it's right in

the bottom

but as encouraging at the presence of

blue clay is it represents less a

welcome clue and more of an unwelcome

obstacle

baby's wet pretty way yeah where's the

water it looks wet right there can you

see that

where right there yeah

oh now it's pouring in from this side

you got a water of course about eight

feet down coming in this foot it's

coming quick - Rick I wonder if we are

close to something

at Marty and Rick simply hit groundwater

or might they have breached one of oak

islands legendary flood tunnels

if so it could mean that they are close

to finding something of great value you

diggin yeah

Oh

see some cribbing or some yeah

so that was my home it's something

you're only gonna get one or two more

scoops and then it's gonna full-blown

you know water you know let me have a

look - just don't take a look what could

have missed I suppose but the water was

already coming in you aren't going to

dig in that particular area much deeper

without it flooding that water table is

consistent there's nothing stopping us

undisturbed yeah BQ I wouldn't take

another step look at that it's breaking

right there

here water coming in there mm-hmm

although Rick Marty and Jack had been

stopped from digging any deeper they

refused to give up on the notion that

the place they are excavating might

still be an important treasure site like

what about the timber

yeah to make

yeah it smells kind of new I guess Jack

about where I would be at is there

should be more of it and there's not

yeah if it was connected something we

dug I dug far enough away to check that

oh yeah you're right

if the laginas and their partners have

learned anything during their years on

Oak Island it's that nothing ever comes

easily and no theory no matter how

far-fetched should be dismissed without

a proper investigation I think for the

time being before dinner

let me paraphrase Churchill we're not

done here

but we're done here for today I believe

Robert Marx's theory requires the

treasure chamber to be in the drawer I

and so we've run out of room fast at

that particular location doesn't mean

we're gonna bend it let's fill this hole

in it's dangerous

the long fable money b*tch

now let's see if we can accomplish here

okay gentlemen we're here to discuss

recontouring this when we're gonna need

some heavy equipment to do it and we

need to get the water to run off this

way or you want to check and see if we

can make it go that way see up there all

right let's look after digging at the

precise spot where Oak Island researcher

Robert Markus indicated a vast treasure

could be located and finding only blue

clay and water today Rick Marty and the

team are turning their attention to the

infamous money pit it's really important

Dan that you're here because you have

the most knowledge of what this looked

like originally we know the money pit

was somewhere there we also know that

Robert Dunfield dug very close to this

area right basically it would have been

this whole big area after months of

extensive and arguably excessive

excavations at the site by treasure

hunter robert dunfield in 1965 the exact

location of the original money pit was

lost for nearly five decades

I would get a full barrel that is until

last year when Rick Craig tester and

Dave Blankenship drilled 140 feet down

in an area that Craig had identified

from a series of antique maps and

careful measurements

the result was a core sample that

revealed evidence of what could very

well have been a wooden vault possibly

the same one that was first discovered

by treasure hunter William Chappell back

in 1897

definitely got wood that's definitely

clay concrete and then wood that's the

description that's what they found in

the top of the vault

last year we drilled into what seems to

be one of the original halls but we knew

we were right on the edge we just didn't

know whether we were on the outside edge

or the inside edge or the south edge of

the north edge although finding the

fabled wooden vault suggests the

partners are close to finding the money

pit they still can't be sure of its

exact location what they are sure of is

that finding the money pit and then

excavating it will take time persistence

and an estimated two million dollars

more than the team can risk spending

unless they find absolute evidence that

they have located the pit and that

something of incredible value really

could be down there what other shafts

might we uncover if we kept digging here

probably the hidden shaft

I'm thinking that this is almost exactly

the corner and of course if this is the

end its rectangular so the other end

would be down there in 1937 treasure

hunter Gilbert Hedden constructed a 24

by 12 foot wood crib vertical shaft that

intersected the original money pit at

its northwest corner approximately 125

feet deep underground although Robert

dunfield's massive excavations

obliterated numerous searcher shafts and

tunnels dating back to 1795 the Hedden

shaft was supposedly left intact let's

say we dug down we saw the entire

rectangle of the head and shaft would

that help us get to exactly where the

top of the money pit was bearing in mind

that there's nothing undisturbed above a

100 foot depth I mean just right across

the board

I mean it's just been although though we

could at least with the best of our

knowledge if we had this head and shaft

excavated we would have a much better

idea where the original money pit was we

couldn't be for sure but we know now

won't be far all right Rick what do you

say to getting a good sized excavator in

here and seeing if we can locate this

precisely this head shaft

what do you say I totally agree

if we do this and we say this is it here

is where the original money pit was you

know the 12-foot diameter hole then I'd

like to put a hole right down in the

middle of that thing okay so here's what

we're thinking that we take this and we

dig down a boat not a very big area just

another three feet and we take this

overburden off and we look for the

location of the head and shaft and then

try and use that information and you

could help us to figure out where the

exact money pit was until we see it we

don't know exactly where it is I like to

see all four corners of it when you Ray

I totally agree let's do this

Rick Marty and the team could be on the

verge of the greatest breakthrough they

have ever experienced on Oak Island but

finding the money pit is one thing

digging a 150 foot deep hole to get to

it is quite another

especially since everyone who has tried

has been quickly thwarted by a network

of flood tunnels and a maze a mysterious

underground booby traps

or checking things off the list Big

Brother

as a new day begins so too does one of

the most critical operations in rick and

marty lagina's quest to solve the Oak

Island mystery okay because today will

be the first time in almost 50 years

that ground will be broken in the area

known as the money pit the money pit was

lost long ago over a hundred years ago

according to oral history and some

documentation but they believed at that

point that in connection with the head

and shaft the money pit was very close

thus if we can find the corners of the

head and shaft we can for ourselves come

up with that circle in order to dig up

the head and shaft or what I'd like to

see is bring in the small backhoe you're

good on both of them so bring in a

smaller one find the corner okay then we

know where it is all right let's keep

going let's dig

I wanted to do it I wanted to see one of

these shafts with my own eyes I've seen

nothing but pictures of these things

maybe just lifts your spirits a little

it helps their enthusiasm if the Hedden

shaft verifies that bat fall where we

had the vault could be where the

original money pit was

there's no proper jobsite well a guy

leaning on a show

as the excavation begins Marty must dig

carefully I'll get it

it was exciting to dig that big bucket

into the ground and start moving the

earth but it was a delicate operation -

I mean that's a big piece of equipment

and I'm concerned that in the process of

investigation we don't destroy what

we're trying to find he will also need

to rely on dan henskee memory of where

the head and shaft is located

ask is that all right okay I think right

about there is where you're gonna find

it

okay all right where the shadow is yeah

Esther May 12 feet from there and you're

right about here it's good this he finds

would you'll tell the tale

hold up hold up wait what's that

what Rick what a wreck that oak yeah I

need to take that all

shovel them

right in front of that rock it's going

that way yeah let me dig it this way we

strike out so often on Oak Island where

nothing pans out so running into wood I

wanted to get that scoop in there and

dig that thing out good idea get some

dirt moves' switching from the backhoe

to the 40-ton excavator will allow them

to strategically dig in a longer trench

like fashion

tell you get

campaign much deeper

don't spend much time down there Rick

looks like it's right here there's a

beam

a beam did Marty Rick and the Oak Island

team just find an important piece of

evidence is that a wall that could be

the wall yep I think we found it could

it be that they found not only another

Oak timber but the Hedden shaft itself

on Oak Island every new day could lead

to a dead end or an incredible

breakthrough and every shovel full of

earth could reveal the answer to one of

the world's most incredible mysteries

next time on the curse of Oak Island

isn't that a Templar cross this cross is

Portuguese I do have evidence that puts

them at this location in 1502 1580 we

want to get to the bottom of 10-x this

is not a routine dive

there's a wall here we're hoping it'll

help us identify where the money pit was
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